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The Ground and Pound: 07.19.09: Understanding Good and Bad
Posted by John Curry on 07.19.2009



The Ground and Pound: 07.19.09: Understanding Good and Bad



Well the 100th UFC Pay-Per-View has come and gone and about everything that can stand to be said about it has already been said. However, as I read the opinions of everyone who has some connection to the event are on both sides of the spectrum. From those who thought the PPV was everything that was right about MMA, hard fought action, excellent sub stories, well produced. To others it was exactly what MMA did not need to have happen, controversial decisions, horrible antics, and biased commentary. The truth of the matter is that UFC 100 was everything it needed to be.




Controversy sells and Dana White and Brock Lesnar are both aware of that. Regardless of what Dana says or the so called "chastising" that he gave Lesnar about his behavior or antics regarding their sponsors, White knew exactly what he was going to get from Lesnar and quite possibly requested it considering the $400,000 pay check he took home. While many of the fans and fighters in the UFC have said that Lesnar's behavior is exactly what needs to stay out of Mixed Martial Arts. I am conflicted in regards to how to feel, part of me feels as if the UFC sold a bit of its soul by allowing this kind of theatrics to infiltrate what Zuffa has worked tirelessly to rid MMA of.

The honest fact though is that this is what the UFC needs. Mixed Martial Artists have very few ways of distinguishing themselves in the Octagon in ways that sponsors focus on. Sponsors do not go after and offer big marketing contracts to the guy with the best BJJ or the guy with the cleanest punches. Sponsors want the guys who fans will pay to watch and those guys are the ones we want to see have their asses whooped. By the time Brock Lesnar fights again, the hatred he has gained will multiply. This isn't anything new, it is just new on a different level. Just as Tito Ortiz knew how to push the buttons in the Octagon as well as the fans, as Kimbo brought MMA to mainstream television, even as Andre Arlovski wears "fangs" on his mouthpiece, Brock Lesnar has opened a more in your face and abrasive style of self-promotion. As a result of this, Lesnar has been pushed into two MMA main event Championship fights in his first 5 matches which attests to not only his strength in the cage but his marketability .

Before fans start calling for blood from Lesnar or the UFC they have to understand that Lesnar's behavior is good for business and if they don't believe it they should ask themselves why they are pissed off. Everything in life needs a good a guy and a bad guy. Why should MMA be expected to be different? Yeah it does reek of the WWE the way the Brock Lesnar behaved, but the WWE grew into a billion dollar industry with that kind of behavior. In a way Lesnar learned from the best. While MMA is thought to be a more civilized and "real" form of entertainment compared to the WWE, we still have the same guys playing the same roles. Lesnar plays the old Rock style of the fans need him and he doesn't need them and the guy the company wants to succeed a la HHH. The UFC has to admit at some point that they have molded themselves after the WWE. Their fighters cut promos just like the scripted ones wrestlers cut, they have commentators like Joe Rogan who is MMA's Jim Ross, pyrotechnics, eccentric "owners", long running storylines and more. They milk the fact that celebrities are in attendance and they hold themselves to be above the need for media.

In the end, maybe they are right. Maybe the only marketing they really need is from the fighters themselves. If that's the case maybe Brock Lesnar is the smartest fighter in MMA.

Kimbo will win The Ultimate Fighter

I really hate to say this but if you don't think Kimbo will win The Ultimate Fighter then you sir are a moron. Kimbo's involvement in TUF is Dana's way of bringing Kimbo in to the UFC without having to deal with the backlash of "he hasn't earned it." I am sure that the addition of Roy Nelson may have people believing this is not a fixed event, but I am having a hard time imaging that Dana White sees "Big Country" as more marketable than Kimbo. Kimbo is just like Brock Lesnar. He is a theatrical fighter. Again the proof is in the name. Kevin Ferguson is not a fighter, Kimbo Slice is. That's the mentality of it. Kind of reeks of Mick Foley/Cactus Jack mentality. Now that he has fallen back to earth, Kimbo should be more accepting of help especially from Rampage Jackson. Again, maybe I am just on the bandwagon of MMA conspiracy but I think there is a fix in for this year's TUF.



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Brock is just an idiot, I don't think he's smart enough to have planned his post fight theatrics as any kind of self promotion. When you wrote that Kimbo would win I wanted to comment that you're way retarded, but then who knows, he's got as good a chance as anyone. The four finalists from the U.K vs U.S ultimate fighter show can't fight for shit. If anything MMA is like boxing, 2 guys are gonna fight and they talk shit about each other upto the fight. If Brock wasn't a former WWE guy no one would be talking about his post fight stuff and linking it with the WWE.
He's just an asshole like Ortiz and the Diaz brothers, all good fighters that most of us like seeing get their asses kicked. Enough of writing about the fucking WWE, this is the MMA section.


Posted By: paco smith (Guest)  on July 19, 2009 at 12:37 AM

 
 
And let the hate comments roll in because you mentioned the WWE in their sacred MMA section.

People need to get over the Brock thing. Let's look at what he did wrong, and why people are stupid for being angry

1. Brock talked shit after the fight: ..... Really?

2. Brock flipped people off: Not like people don't flip you the bird everyday when you drive down the street, let alone if 10000+ people are booing you.

3. Brock bashed the Sponsers: Is this a stupid move? Yes. Why the fuck are fans offended by it? The UFC should be angry, fans should find it funny like I do. If you are so upset by the damage you want to think it can cause the UFC, then you need to take Dana's dick out of your mouth.

4. Brock will get on top of his wife: Would it be better if he told the kids to wear a condom and practise safe sex?

If Brock wasn't a former WWE wrestler then he would be the most popular fighter in the world. But MMA fans like to think that all fighters are superhumans, and wrestlers can't be tough.


Posted By: Shawno420 (Guest)  on July 19, 2009 at 03:08 AM

 
 
"I really hate to say this but if you don't think Kimbo will win The Ultimate Fighter then you sir are a moron. Kimbo's involvement in TUF is Dana's way of bringing Kimbo in to the UFC without having to deal with the backlash of "he hasn't earned it.""

Wow.. Tinfoil hat much? Since when does Dana give a fuck what the public thinks of his business practices? You're a fucking moron if you think that Dana would sacrifice an entire season of TUF for a half assed freakshow fighter.


Posted By: saerbarnet (Guest)  on July 19, 2009 at 09:24 AM

 
 
Excellent article. MMA fans that don't understand why what Brock did is the best thing for business need to understand why pro wrestling used the types of techniques that they did for over 50 years to become at one time the world's biggest spectator sport.

Posted By: Ted (Guest)  on July 19, 2009 at 12:52 PM

 
 
I just read something where Dana White said something bad about Brock walking over to Frank Mir after their fight was over and asking Mir if he wanted to keep on talking shit about him then. Dana White said "That's not what we're about." He was saying how they only do trash talking to their opponents before the fights but never after the fights. Now, doesn't that sound contrived? Perhaps even fake? Would it be more acceptable if they scripted Brock to give Frank a hug after the fight and Brock followed the script? I thought they prided themselves on being real. Dana White certainly doesn't use the language that is regarded as acceptable for a high executive of a huge company. White doesn't want to be a typical professional. He prides himself on being something of a rebel. But when Brock Lesnar acts real and speaks his mind instead of following a certain expected protocol, Dana White can't handle it? What hypocrisy. If they want to be real, then they'd better get used to what Brock did because he's as real a person as there is. He didn't like Mir and all of Mir's trash talking before the fight, and he didn't like Mir after the fight either. He didn't like being disrespected by the fans so he responded by flipping them off. Brock Lesnar is the most real fighter the UFC has.

Posted By: Kenny (Guest)  on July 19, 2009 at 01:30 PM

 
 
Why should Kimbo Slice have to win TUF to get into the UFC? I know Dana said the only way he can get in is to go through the house, but there have been enough people who didn't win that got contracts. Kimbo just has to put on a good enough showing, prove that he's learned something, and he'll be a shoe in. There doesn't have to be a fix; he doesn't have to win.

Posted By: Sly Reference (Guest)  on July 19, 2009 at 03:27 PM

 
 
Kenny you are completely right

Posted By: Shawno420 (Guest)  on July 19, 2009 at 11:37 PM

 
 
"I really hate to say this but if you don't think Kimbo will win The Ultimate Fighter then you sir are a moron."

Were you high when you wrote this? John, Dana will never associate with a fixed fight, so if fixing fights isn't a possibility, then Kimbo's chances of actually winning the show are actually a little slim....he's an underdog, not a favorite.

Actually I'm surprised at everything that you wrote on this subject...i mean, you really just don't get it.


Posted By: Guest#5596 (Guest)  on July 20, 2009 at 01:58 PM

 


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