411 MMA Rankings 09.08.09: Heavyweight Division
Posted by Jonathan Solomon on 09.08.2009
A holiday edition of your weekly 411Mania MMA Rankings brings back the big men of the sport. Read on to see whether Minotauro Nogueira pushes Brock Lesnar out of the second position. Plus for the first time in a while, there is a lot of turnover at the bottom of the list. Which new names are here? Only one way to find out...
Welcome to another hearty helping of MMA Rankings courtesy of 411Mania. These are the Fedor Emelianenko ratings however, his placement is NOT unanimous. That's right. Doubts and negativity are creeping into the man's aura for the first time. People want to see him fight more actively and once he gets inside the cage in November against Brett Rogers, let's hope that will come to fruition.
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira defeated Randy Couture in one of the best fights of the year, killing any doubts he was washed up. Meanwhile, Randy Couture is on a two-fight losing streak and having just signed a brand new long-term contract with the UFC, plan on seeing more of The Natural.
The heavyweight division is not exclusive to the UFC with nearly half of the fighters actively fighting for promotions other than the premiere brand. Although some are free agents, others such as Brett Rogers and Fabricio Werdum are now Strikeforce mainstays. All we can do is wait to see whether Alistair Overeem will recover from his injuries in time to actually defend his Strikeforce heavyweight championship.
Let's get it going, enjoy the rankings and don't forget the HEAVYWEIGHT season of The Ultimate Fighter kicks off next week on Spike. That should be a blast. Who knows, by the end of it, maybe Kimbo Slice will be ranked here for the first time ever.
Here's some feedback to last week's middleweight rankings.
From S Dot: Filho loses ONCE and is dropped?! Well, many people felt so fed up with Paulo Filho's performance in his rematch against Chael Sonnen that they decided to drop him far down the list or entirely off. I did not and still don't know what to make of that fight and not knowing what Filho's up to, I decided not to rank him until he puts some impressive performances together.
From Jeremy S: Can't complain much about the list... though I wasn't sure what to make of Maia after his loss. I hate it when someone that seems really good loses so badly in a quick shot like that. Makes me wonder if he is deserving of still being ranked as high as he is or if he was just unlucky and we should wait and see how his next fight goes. Though I probably would put Vitor ahead of him at this point at least. Exactly right about the way in which Maia lost. Everyone can be knocked out so when it happens that quickly, it is not a huge knock against the guys skills. Let's just hope his chin can improve because his future opponents will be gunning for him with a right.
From GeeSpotter: Bill W and Scott K's rankings should not be counted into the overall rankings cuz they wasted a spot when they voted for Thales Leites.
Not a bad list otherwise. Any rumors going around about the next time Jorge Santiago might fight? January was a looooong time ago I have no idea about Santiago although some places say he may fight on the Brazilian show for Bitetti. I'm not sure about that one.
From Brian: Your rankings as always are excellent! The breakdowns by the "crew" is a great idea.
Love it how Paulo Filho is gone - for his own sake I hope he gets it back together.
Yushin Okami - I hate to see him at #4 as I find him so boring but I suppose he is somewhere up there.
I had no idea Jake Shields was moving to MW. Why is he doing this? Did he clean out WW? I cannot wait to see him go against Jason Miller!
Hope to see Michael Bisping off the list next time with another loss.... he may well be my least favorite UFC fighter.
Hope to see Nathan Marquardt and Dan Henderson fight next - let Anderson get one more good LW fight and then put the winner of Nate/Dan agaist him.
This website keeps getting better and better - my favorite MMA site by far. Thanks for the kind words. Shields moving out of welterweight is two fold I believe. One, the Strikeforce 170-division was made for Nick Diaz (at least the belt was created for him). Shields and Diaz will not fight each other. Shields has no real big name opponents at welterweight and sees of the potential names out there, he can probably have bigger fights with middleweight fighters.
From dale: The main reason I think Nick Diaz isn't a top-10 fighter at WW is because WW has GSP, Alves, Koscheck, Fitch, Shields (sort of), Kampmann, Swick, Condit, Hardy, Johnson, even Hughes, Hieron and Mach (maybe)... who should all be ranked above him.
Plus, I don't think he's even a welterweight fighter anymore, he's accomplished nothing in the weight-class. His only two impressive wins since Koji Oishi tried to face attack him are over Shamrock and Smith. One was at 179. The other was at 180. Neither guy belongs in the top-10 of WW or MW.
There's also the whole test positive or just don't show up to the test at all thing going on.
I still hope he ends up back in the UFC so I can see him fight some real competition.
Middleweight rankings are very good. Hope to see Hendo/Marquardt fight, even though Hendo says he doesn't want to fight anybody but Anderson. Diaz is a weird fighter in that he fights at several different weights so it's tough to pin him down to one.
Thanks for another week of talk from the outskirts of 411ville.
Heavyweight Rankings from Last Year (9/11/2008)
1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueria
3. Randy Couture
4. Andrei Arlvoski
5. Josh Barnett
6. Fabricio Werdum
7. Gabriel Gonzaga
8. Tim Sylvia
9. Mirko Cro Cop
10. Frank Mir
Brock Lesnar, Cheick Kongo, Aleksander Emelianenko, Antonio Silva, Roy Nelson, Alistair Overeem and Cain Velasquez were "On The Bubble."
THE CREW
The 411 MMA staff has decided to pull back the curtain and reveal the great 411 Oz. After some consideration, for the the first time in the soon-to-be two-year history of 411 MMA Rankings that you will be able to see which knucklehead put which fighter where.
So here are the nuts and bolts, the breakdown of the rankings from your favorite 411 MMA personalities:
Patrick Mullin
1) Fedor Emelianenko
2) Brock Lesnar
3) Antonio Rodrigo Noguiera
4) Frank Mir
5) Alistair Overeem
6) Randy Couture
7) Shane Carwin
8) Cain Velasquez
9) Brett Rogers
10) Gabriel Gonzaga
11) Fabricio Werdum
12) Ben Rothwell
13) Andrei Arlovski
14) Jeff Monson
15) Cheick Kongo
Todd Bergman
1. Fedor
2. Lesnar
3. Big Nog
4. Frank Mir
5. Brett Rogers
6. Shane Carwin
7. Randy Couture
8. Overeem
9. Junior dos Santos
10. Cain Velasquez
11. Jeff Monson
12. Ben Rothwell
13. Werdum
14. Roy Nelson
15. Gabe Gonzaga
Jeffrey Harris
1) Brock Lesnar
2) Fedor Emelianenko
3) Antonio Rodrigo Noguiera
4) Shane Carwin
5) Frank Mir
6) Randy Couture
7) Cain Velasquez
8) Brett Rogers
9) Junior dos Santos
10) Jeff Monson
11) Crocop
12) Fabricio Werdum
13) Ben Rothwell
14) Andrei Arlovski
15) Cheick Kongo
Jonathan Solomon
1. Fedor
2. Brock
3. Big Nog
4. Couture
5. Carwin
6. Velasquez
7. Mir
8. Overeem
9. Barnett
10. Werdum
11. Rogers
12. Gonzaga
13. Kongo
14. Cro Cop
15. Aleksander
411's MMA Ranking Rules
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411's Official MMA Rankings
Heavyweight Division
1) Fedor Emelianenko (29-1)
Height: 6'0
Weight: 233
Currently fighting with: M-1 Global
Last 5 fights:
- vs. Andrei Arlovski - Win via KO (punch) - Affliction: Day of Reckoning - January 24, 2009
- vs. Tim Sylvia - Win via submission (rear naked choke) - Affliction: Banned - July 19, 2008
- vs. Hong Man Choi - Win via submission (arm bar) - Yarennoka - New Year's Eve 2007 - December 31, 2007
- vs. Matt Lindland - Win via submission (arm bar) - BodogFight: Clash of the Nations - April 14, 2007
- vs. Mark Hunt - Win via submission (kimura) - PRIDE - Shockwave 2006 - December 31, 2006
Next scheduled appearance:
- Currently Unknown
Comment: With Affliction folding, Emelianenko still has one fight left on his deal. He likely won't be interested in a UFC deal that restricts where he can work so expect him to next turn up in Japan. Hopefully it won't be too long because he is the best heavyweight and let's face it, it's been too long since we saw him jack Andrei Arlovski into the air.
2) Brock Lesnar (4-1)
Height: 6'2
Weight: 265
Birthday: July 12, 1977
Currently Fighting With: UFC
Last 5 fights:
- vs. Frank Mir - Win via TKO (punches) - UFC 100 - July 11, 2009
- vs. Randy Couture - Win via TKO (punches) - UFC 91: Couture vs. Lesnar - November 15, 2008
- vs. Heath Herring - Win via decision (unanimous) - UFC 87: Seek And Destroy - August 9, 2008
- vs. Frank Mir - Loss via submission (kneebar) - UFC 81: Breaking Point - February 2, 2008
- vs. Min Soo Kim - Win via submission (strikes) - K1 HERO's - Dynamite!! USA - June 2, 2007
Next scheduled appearance:
- vs. Shane Carwin - UFC 106 - November 21, 2009
3) Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (32-5-1)
Height: 6'3
Weight: 231
Currently fighting with: UFC
Last 5 fights:
- vs. Randy Couture - Win via decision (unanimous) - UFC 102: Couture vs. Nogueira - August 29, 2009
- vs. Frank Mir - Loss via TKO (punches) - UFC 92: Ultimate 2008 - December 27, 2008
- vs. Tim Sylvia - Win via submission (guillotine choke) - UFC 81: Breaking Point - February 2, 2008
- vs. Heath Herring - Win via decision (unanimous) - UFC 73: Stacked - July 7th, 2007
- vs. Josh Barnett - Win via decision (unanimous) - PRIDE - Shockwave 2006 - December 31, 2006
Next scheduled appearance:
- Currently Unknown
4) Frank Mir (12-4)
Height: 6'1
Weight: 240
Currently fighting with: UFC
Last 5 fights:
- vs. Brock Lesnar - Loss via TKO (punches) - UFC 100 - July 11, 2009
- vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira - Win via TKO (punches) - UFC 92: Ultimate 2008 - December 27, 2008
- vs. Brock Lesnar - Win via submission (knee bar) - UFC 81: Breaking Point - February 2, 2008
- vs. Antoni Hardonk - Win via submission (kimura) - UFC 74: Respect - August 25, 2007
- vs. Brandon Vera - Loss via TKO (strikes) - UFC 65: Bad Intentions - November 18, 2006
Next scheduled appearance:
- Currently Unknown
5) Randy Couture (16-10)
Height: 6'1
Weight: 225
Currently fighting with: UFC
Last 5 fights:
- vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira - Loss via decision (unanimous) - UFC 102: Couture vs. Nogueira - August 29, 2009
- vs. Brock Lesnar - Loss via TKO (punches) - UFC 91: Couture vs. Lesnar - November 15, 2008
- vs. Gabriel Gonzaga - Win via TKO (strikes) - UFC 74: Respect - August 25, 2007
- vs. Tim Sylvia - Win via decision (unanimous) - UFC 68: Uprising - March 3, 2007
- vs. Chuck Liddell - Loss via KO (punch) - UFC 57: Liddell vs. Couture 3 - February 4, 2006
- vs. Mike Van Arsdale - Win via submission (anaconda choke) - UFC 54: Boiling Point - August 20, 2005
Next scheduled appearance:
- Currently Unknown
6) Shane Carwin (11-0)
Height: 6'1
Weight: 259
Currently Fighting With: UFC
Last 5 fights:
- vs. Gabriel Gonzaga - Win via KO (punch) - UFC 96: Jackson vs. Jardine - March 7, 2009
- vs. Neil Wain - Win via TKO (strikes) - UFC 89: Bisping vs. Leben - October 18, 2008
- vs. Christian Wellisch - Win via KO (punch) - UFC 84: Ill Will - May 24, 2008
- vs. Sherman Pendergarst - win via TKO (strikes) - Ring of Fire 31: Undisputed - December 1, 2007
- vs. Rex Richards - Win via submission (guillotine choke) - Art of War 4 - October 27, 2007
Next scheduled appearance:
- vs. Brock Lesnar - UFC 106 - November 21, 2009
7) Alistair Overeem (29-11)
Height: 6'5
Weight: 205
Birthday: May 17, 1980
Currently Fighting With: DREAM, Strikeforce
Last 5 fights:
vs. Gary Goodridge - Win via submission (kimura) - Glory 10: Battle of Arnhem - November 9, 2008
- vs. Mirko Cro Cop - No Contest (knee to the groin) - DREAM 6 - September 23, 2008
- vs. Mark Hunt - Win via submission (keylock) - DREAM 5 - July 21, 2008
- vs. Tae Hyun Lee - Win via KO (punches) - DREAM 4 - June 15, 2008
- vs. Paul Buentello - Win via submission (knees to the body) - Strikeforce: 4 Men Enter, 1 Man Survives - November 16, 2007
Next scheduled appearance:
- Currently Injured (hand)
8) Cain Velasquez (6-0)
Height: 6'2
Weight: 242
Currently Fighting With: UFC
Last 5 fights:
- vs. Cheick Kongo - Win via decision (unanimous) - UFC 99: The Comeback - June 13, 2009
- vs. Denis Stojnic - Win via TKO (strikes) - UFC Fight Night 17 - February 7, 2009
- vs. Jake O'Brien - Win via TKO (strikes) - UFC: Silva vs. Irvin - July 19, 2008
- vs. Brad Morris - Win via TKO (strikes) - UFC 83: Serra vs. St. Pierre II - April 19, 2008
- vs. Jeremiah Constant - Win via TKO - BodogFIGHT: St Petersburg - December 16, 2006
Next scheduled appearance:
- vs. Ben Rothwell - UFC 104 - October 24, 2009
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9) Josh Barnett (27-5)
Height: 6'3
Weight: 250
Currently fighting with: Free Agent
Last 5 fights:
- vs. Gilbert Yvel - Win via submission (strikes) - Affliction: Day of Reckoning - January 24, 2009
- vs. Pedro Rizzo - Win via KO (punch) - Affliction: Banned - July 19, 2008
- vs. Jeff Monson - Win via decision (unanimous) - World Victory Road: Sengoku 2 - May 18, 2008
- vs. Hidehiko Yoshida - Win via submission (heel hook) - World Victory Road: Sengoku - March 5, 2008
- vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira - Loss via decision (unanimous) - PRIDE - Shockwave 2006 - December 31, 2006
Next scheduled appearance:
- Currently Unknown
10) Fabricio Werdum (12-4-1)
Height: 6'4
Weight: 242
Currently fighting with: Strikeforce
Last 5 wins:
- vs. Mike Kyle - Win via submission (guillotine choke) - Strikeforce: Carano vs. Cyborg - August 15, 2009
- vs. Junior dos Santos - Loss via TKO (punches) - UFC 90: Silva vs. Cote - October 25, 2008
- vs. Brandon Vera - Win via TKO (punches) - UFC 85: Bedlam - June 7, 2008
- vs. Gabriel Gonzaga - Win via TKO (punches) - UFC 80: Rapid Fire - January 19, 2008
- vs. Andrei Arlovski - Loss via decision (unanimous) - UFC 70: Nations Collide - April 21, 2007
Next scheduled appearance:
- Currently Unknown
11) Brett Rogers (10-0)
Height: 6'5
Weight: 265
Currently Fighting With: Strikeforce
Last 5 fights:
- vs. Andrei Arlovski - Win via TKO (strikes) - Strikeforce: Lawler vs. Shields - June 6, 2009
- vs. Abongo Humphrey - Win via TKO (strikes) - Strikeforce: Shamrock vs. Diaz - April 11, 2009
- vs. Jon Murphy - Win via TKO (strikes) - EliteXC: Primetime - May 31, 2008
- vs. James Thompson - Win via KO (punch) - EliteXC: Street Certified - February 16, 2008
- vs. Ralph Kelly - Win via submission (strikes) - EliteXC: Renegade - November 10, 2007
Next scheduled appearance:
- vs. Fedor Emelianenkoa - Strikeforce on Showtime - Fall 2009
12) Gabriel Gonzaga (11-4)
Height: 6'2
Weight: 252
Currently fighting with: UFC
Last 5 fights:
- vs. Chris Tuchscherer - Win via TKO (punches) - UFC 102: Couture vs. Nogueira - August 29, 2009
- vs. Shane Carwin - Loss via KO (punch) - UFC 96: Jackson vs. Jardine - March 7, 2009
- vs. Josh Hendricks - Win via KO (punches) - UFC 91: Couture vs. Lesnar - November 15, 2008
- vs. Justin McCully - Win via submission (kimura) - UFC 86: Jackson vs. Griffin - July 5, 2008
- vs. Fabricio Werdum - Loss via TKO (punches) - UFC 80: Rapid Fire - January 19, 2008
Next scheduled appearance:
- Currently Unknown
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13) Andrei Arlovski (13-7)
Height: 6'4
Weight: 240
Currently fighting with: Free Agent
Last 5 fights:
- vs. Brett Rogers - Loss via TKO (strikes) - Strikeforce: Lawler vs. Shields - June 6, 2009
- vs. Fedor Emelianenko - Loss via KO (punch) - Affliction: Day of Reckoning - January 24, 2009
- vs. Roy Nelson - Win via KO (punch) - EliteXC: Heat - October 4, 2008
- vs. Ben Rothwell - Win via KO (punches) - Affliction: Banned - July 19, 2008
- vs. Jake O'Brien - Win via TKO (punches) - UFC 82: Pride of a Champion - March 1, 2008
Next scheduled appearance:
- Currently Unknown
14) Jeff Monson (31-8)
Height: 5'9
Weight: 247
Currently fighting with: Free Agent
Last 5 fights:
- vs. Jimmy Ambriz - Win via submission (rear naked choke) - Total Combat 33: Bad Intentions - July 11, 2009
- vs. Sergei Kharitonov - Win via submission (north south choke) - DREAM 8 - April 5, 2009
- vs. Sergej Maslobojev - Win via submission (Anaconda choke) - Cage Wars Championship: Decade - March 29, 2009
- vs. Roy Nelson - Win via decision (unanimous) - March Badness - March 21, 2009
- vs. Ricco Rodriguez - Win via decision (unanimous) - MFA: There Will Be Blood - December 13, 2008
Next scheduled appearance:
- vs. Pedro Rizzo - Bitteti Combat - September 12, 2009
15) Junior dos Santos (8-1)
Height: 6'4
Weight: 243
Currently Fighting With: UFC
Last 5 fights:
- vs. Stefan Struve - Win via TKO (punches) - UFC 95: Sanchez vs. Stevenson - February 20, 2009
- vs. Fabricio Werdum - Win via KO (uppercut) - UFC 90: Silva vs. Cote - October 25, 2008
- vs. Geronimo dos Santos - Win via TKO (cut) - Demo Fight 3 - May 24, 2008
- vs. Joaquim Ferreira - Loss via submission (armbar) - MTL: Final - November 10, 2007
- vs. Jair Goncalves - Win via TKO - MTL: Mo Team League 2 - September 29, 2007
Next scheduled appearance:
- vs. Mirko Cro Cop - UFC 103 - September 19, 2009
Closing Comments: Others receiving votes include Ben Rothwell, Cheick Kongo, Mirko Cro Cop and Aleksander Emelianenko.
Jeffery Harris didn't have Overeem in his TOP 15?!?! I want/demand a please explain.
Other than that, great list.
Posted By: Steven Perry (Guest) on September 07, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Well, this is a list to rank fighters. When was the last time Overeem fought? When is the next time he's going to fight? In a couple of months, he will have dropped off the list completely.
Posted By: Josh (Guest) on September 08, 2009 at 01:06 AM
How the hell you get Barnett over Wedrum ?
Than you go and put Cain over Barnett ?
Andrei has lost to great fights and he is under Gonzga ?
Carwin over Overreem and the above rest?
Mir 3 ? And Brock 2 ?
Just because you put a UFC belt on a guy doesn't make him #2 or #1 this list is way off
Posted By: Guest#8057 (Guest) on September 08, 2009 at 01:50 AM
Well, I wouldn't have expected much to change with the whole Fedor/Brock discussion from the last time this ranking rolled out. So no need to revisit that argument.
If Couture announces he is going to fight at LHW, will he be taken off the list for someone that is actually going to fight at HW, or does he have to go a year without fighting at HW? curious
And really...Overeem? The guy with the broken hand that couldn't fight last month but can fight in a kickboxing tournament and hasn't defended his belt in two years? And probably hasn't b/c he doesn't want to fight in the states and be drug tested?
And speaking of drugs...Josh Barnett? really? and we are going to consider any wins he might have legit after he goes to Japan to fight while he is doped up (and they "drug test" him there). Stuff like that should really be taken into consideration.
And poor Arlovski, even out of the whole list he has the sad picture of him getting KOd. I hope he doesn't get knocked out on Bully Beatdown, that might actually take him off this list.
Posted By: Jeremy S (Registered) on September 08, 2009 at 02:15 AM
Having Werdum over Dos Antos seems wrong to me seeing how Dos Antos beat another HW fighter after he KTFO of Werdum while Werdum got rocked and almost armbarred by a blown up turd of a LHW in Mike Kyle.
After he murders Mirko at 103, I hope to see Dos Antos push Werdum out of the Top-10 by way of taking Josh Barnett's #9 spot.
Posted By: dale (Guest) on September 08, 2009 at 05:52 AM
Great list. Especially the part with Monson on it. That guy is slowly making his way back to relevancy. Love to see a feel-good story. Hopefully it has a happy ending (not like Couture's)
Posted By: GeeSpotter (Guest) on September 08, 2009 at 08:56 AM
lol @ Harris ranking Lesnar #1 over Fedor.
Posted By: punchdrunk (Registered) on September 08, 2009 at 09:39 AM
I have no problem with not ranking Overeem - what is his last big heavyweight win on American soil (i.e. with drug testing). He and Barnett have not proven anything in a clean fight in at least my recent memory.
I know anyone who ranks Lesnar above fedor will get laughed at these days, but I wonder at what point it vecomes acceptable? In just listed fights going back almost 3 years he beat #13 on this list, 2 jokes, a middleweight, and a fighter who lost his nerve (and to Ray Mercer). Brock destroyed #4, and #5 - is fighting #6 next and then probably #3. If he beat Carwin and Noguiera while Fedor continues to fight junk (we'll see if he even fights Rogers or Overeem - I'll believe it when I see it) don't you have to consider moving him to #1?
Posted By: MJH (Guest) on September 08, 2009 at 10:58 AM
@MJH
I wonder that myself. Personally I can see how Fedor gets ranked higher based on record/history, but when I look at them I honestly don't think Fedor would beat Brock 8 times out of 10. Especially now that Brock has learned a little patience toward guys with jitz. Brock I think would be too big for him the way Couture gave him a good fight, but in the end just couldn't handle the size/power thing. For a big guy, Brock is a lot more athletic and fast than any of the freak fights Fedor has done in the past.
But I guess until they fight each other or Fedor loses to someone while Brock keeps on stacking up a few more wins we'll always see this.
Posted By: Jeremy S (Registered) on September 08, 2009 at 11:22 AM
ok - we gotta have captions for the pictures chosen here for the fighters:
1. Fedor - all business (for the studio camera)
2. Lesnar - "should I hit him or kiss him"
3. Nog - Rocky theme playing in the background
4. Mir - hit by a freight train
5. Randy - just had a good ol' time
6. Carwin - looks bored even though he won
7. Allistar - hope the hammer didn't break the hand
8. Velasquez - big time Mexican pride
9. Barnett - can't fight but will model shirts for big men
10. Fabrico - Makin' Chuck Norris proud
11. Rogers - Clubber Lang with scary knees
12. Gonzaga - "somebody needs to change these lights I'm pointing to"
13. Arlovski - "I hope my beard will cusion the fall.."
14. Monson - the Thing from Fantastic 4
15. Junior dos Santos - "Do I look like Chuck Liddell?"
Posted By: Shane (Guest) on September 08, 2009 at 01:10 PM
kinda suprised Kongo and cro cop only got honrable mentions but am similary pleased to see Dos Santos finally get ranked, his fight with cro cop should hopefully be a gem. Look out for Todd Duffee.
Posted By: Emo (Guest) on September 08, 2009 at 01:51 PM
Nice to see the snowman finally get some love.
Solid list guys
Posted By: Last_Rider (Guest) on September 08, 2009 at 02:37 PM
Jeffrey Harris is a fool. Fedor has been #1 since before Lesnar was even in MMA. Until he loses he will stay at number 1.
Posted By: RedVexx (Guest) on September 08, 2009 at 09:32 PM
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