The Rear Naked Column 01.28.10: The Light Heavyweight Division in 2010
Posted by Samer Kadi on 01.28.2010
Shogun vs. Machida leads a busy year for the UFC LHW division, Quinton Jackson and Rashad Evans look to settle their feud and Forrest Griffin will battle Antonio Rogerio Nogueira! 411’s Samer Kadi breaks down the future of the LHW division in 2010.
On Saturday 8th of May 2010, Lyoto Machida and Mauricio "Shogun" Rua will get the chance to put one of the biggest controversies of 2009 to bed. In October of last year, UFC light heavyweight champion Lyoto "The Dragon" Machida edged out Shogun in a highly controversial decision to retain his title. The backlash was overwhelming, as fans, fighters and media cried outrage over the result. Even UFC president Dana White expressed his disappointment with the decision and ensured that an immediate rematch will take place.
When the initial title fight between the two was announced, the reaction – even among the hardcore fans – was a bit underwhelming. Shogun had only looked good in one of his three UFC fights, a first round stoppage of former champ Chuck Liddell. Experts remained unsure whether Shogun had put his struggles behind him and question marks loomed over his conditioning and form. And despite his brilliant accomplishments in PRIDE, many didn't see him as a legitimate threat to Machida's title. Those doubts were all put to rest on October 24 when Shogun Rua manufactured a near perfect game plan and took the fight right to Machida. The decision created a buzz that the event itself had failed to generate in the weeks leading up to it.
To tell you the truth, the UFC couldn't have wished for a better scenario. As the buyrates suggested, the Machida-Shogun fight initially couldn't capture the fans' imagination. But after Shogun's performance as well as the extremely disputable decision, everyone is just longing for a rematch between the two, rendering the second installment of Machida-Shogun guaranteed money for Zuffa. Not only that, but who would have been next for Machida had he beaten Rua convincingly? With Rampage's exit and Rashad being only one fight removed from his loss to the champ, the UFC would have been left with little options.
As it stands, the outcome of the much anticipated rematch should provide the UFC with plenty of possibilities. And irrespective of the result, multiple big fights await the winner. So without further ado, let's look at the list of potential challengers:
If Machida wins:
Quinton "Rampage" Jackson: This for me, is a no brainer. If Rampage defeats Rashad Evans, he should get the title shot. Since losing his title to Forrest Griffin back in July of 2008, Rampage knocked out Wanderlei Silva at UFC 92 and followed it up with a decision victory over Keith Jardine. A win over Evans, who's universally considered a top five light heavyweight, would surely put Jackson in the number one contender spot.
In my opinion, Machida Vs Jackson is the biggest fight that can happen in the light heavyweight division at the moment. They're arguably the two biggest stars in that weight class, and they match up really well. Jackson's power and chin will allow him to come out aggressive, knowing he can take Machida's punches. The problem for Quinton is that he's abandoned his wrestling roots. We saw Shogun have moderate success in the clinch with Machida, and contrary to popular belief, Jackson is more than capable in the clinch (at least when he's not getting destroyed by Shogun or Wanderlei). He has the ability to push him against the fence and utilize his dirty boxing.
The other problem for Rampage recently is that he's implementing very little footwork. Instead, as witnessed in the Forrest and Jardine fights, he's coming out flat footed and swinging hard without setting up his strikes, trying too hard for a knockout that never came. When he was patient and picked his spots, he sent Wanderlei Silva to sleep. Machida's movement is way too good for Jackson to take this lazy approach.
Randy Couture: Let me first say that I in no way would like to see the winner of the Couture-Coleman fight receive a title shot. But as we all know, if Randy wins the fight (as he should), a title shot will become a possibility. Although that will in part depend on his performance as well as a couple of circumstances.
For Randy to get the shot, Machida needs to win, and Rampage has to lose. I think the UFC's main interest regarding Couture is in a potential fight with Lyoto Machida. If Shogun wins, they'll have other options for him, but more on that later. Shogun-Couture doesn't have the same ring to it. The real selling point in this one will be Machida's mystique against Couture's defining the odds, dragon-slaying (no pun intended) reputation. Couture is the miracle maker and the ultimate baby face. The UFC hype machine will likely do a great job in selling the fight and making people believe Randy stands a chance. The buyrates will be off the charts and everybody gets a nice paycheck.
In theory, Couture has the tools to trouble Machida. He possesses the kind of wrestling, clinch game, game planning and experience to take The Dragon out of his element. But really at this stage, Machida is too quick for "The Natural". I'd be surprised if Randy makes it out of the second round.
If Shogun wins:
Quinton "Rampage" Jackson: Again, a no brainer. If Rampage defeats Rashad, he will be the number one contender, regardless of the winner in the Machida-Shogun fight. When the UFC first signed Shogun back in 2007, the initial plan was to have him fight Rampage for the title in a rematch of their 2005 Middleweight Grand Prix fight, when Shogun demolished Jackson in the first round. Obviously, Forrest Griffin had different ideas.
Three years later, that fight is a possibility once more. Rampage has come a long way since his fight with Shogun five years ago. He takes his training a little more seriously and actually trains with a real camp. Rampage's boxing is vastly improved, and if Shogun gets wild, Rampage will floor with a counter hook. But with Shogun's new found maturity and discipline in the ring, I would still favor him over Jackson. I see him using the same game plan he did against Machida. He'll take Jackson's legs away the same way Forrest Griffin did (if not worse), and he has the speed to avoid Jackson's counters. He may not finish him this time around, but the edge certainly goes to Shogun in my book.
Rashad Evans: This of course, is in case Rashad topples Rampage. Unfortunately for him, I don't think he'll be getting a title shot if Machida comes out victorious as his knockout loss to The Dragon is still relatively fresh on everybody's minds, so Rashad would probably need an extra win or so. On the other hand, a win over Rampage should ensure him a title shot if Shogun were to emerge victorious.
Rashad is actually a tougher match up for Shogun than Jackson is. Rashad is quick, explosive and has the wrestling to put Shogun on his back. The one area in Shogun's game that's always been shaky is his takedown defense. Rua has never shown much of a sprawl or an overall solid base. He operates well off his back mind you, but I don't see him catching Evans in a submission, or scrambling from underneath him for that matter. He will however, have the edge in striking.
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira: The UFC would need to showcase their fight on the best of PRIDE show and hype it up as a big deal in order to get newer fans to watch. The pair engaged in an epic battle in the 2005 PRIDE Middleweight Grand Prix quarter final, where Shogun edged out Rogerio in one of the greatest fights in PRIDE history.
After his stunning display against Luiz Cane, Rogerio Nogueira is set to take on former UFC light heavyweight champion Forrest Griffin in a fight I fully expect him to win. Nogueira is just a horrible match up for Griffin as he possesses better boxing, better chin, more power and superior jiu-jitsu.
With that said Nogueira would likely need another victory to secure a title shot.
Anderson Silva: I'm saving the best for last. Anderson Silva's manager Ed Soares has recently spoken on his client's ambitions, stating that he would like to take part in the biggest fights possible. Most of those fights happen to be at light heavyweight. While we will likely never get to see him square off against his teammate Lyoto Machida, a fight with Shogun is a distinct possibility.
The story writes itself really, as Anderson will be looking to avenge his friend's loss. And even if he denies it, I'm sure Anderson will be licking his chops over the prospect of simultaniously holding two titles in two different weight classes.
Of all the fights I've just discussed, this is the one I'd be looking forward to the most. I would favor Anderson because of his vastly superior boxing. Silva's boxing is much more technical, and his counter striking precision will likely put Shogun in trouble. His footwork, head movement and overall defense is also superior. Shogun probably has more power in his kicks and his leg kicks are more effective. He's also the better fighter on the ground and he will likely look to put Anderson there. Rua's guard passing ability is greatly underrated, and I think he can do some damage from the top.
2010 promises to be a year full of huge bouts in the light heavyweight division. But as far as I'm concerned, none will be more anticipated than the Machida-Shogun rematch.
That does it for this week. As always, feedback is appreciated so please leave your thoughts in the comments' section below. I'll see you in seven days.
I don't think its a great match being dragon vs shogun
IT WAS THE MOST BORING FIGHT
Shogun did absolutely nothing
Clearly lost the fight
If I chase you around the ring and throw shots but don't hit any it is not controll
A fight that was horrible in the judges eyes was more so Vera Vs Coture
Vera won
MACHIDA WON
end of story
Posted By: Guest#9732 (Guest) on January 27, 2010 at 11:07 PM
"Shogun did absolutely nothing
Clearly lost the fight"
...Did you even watch it? Shogun did a lot of damage to Machida, hit him WAY more than anyone else has to date, regardless of whether you think he deserved to win the decision or not.
He never had Machida rocked, but it was a gradually beating(Shogun did take hits of his own mind you, but Machida looked worse off) in a close fight. It just didn't favor Shogun in the judges eyes.
Posted By: Guest#1927 (Guest) on January 27, 2010 at 11:50 PM
lol whats that thing representing shogun in that poster for ufc 115?
Posted By: wylun (Guest) on January 28, 2010 at 12:15 AM
although i dont agree that machida won, i would have to agree that shogun-machida was a terribly boring fight to watch, and i personally have no interest in seeing it again. and i think the buyrates will come on considerably less than expected
Posted By: b dog (Guest) on January 28, 2010 at 12:17 AM
Shogun/Anderson Silva is THE fight for 2010, it would be a striking masterpiece. Leg kicking Silva is not a great idea though, see: Irvin, James. Griffin, Forrest (in the early stages).
The prospect of Couture getting a title shot would be hilarious. I don't even think it ould be considered legal....
Posted By: Brad (Guest) on January 28, 2010 at 12:24 AM
when Shogun Rua manufactured a near perfect game plan and took the fight right to Machida.
Oh you must be talking about the Boring ass leg kickes for 3 straight rounds that finally earned him a chance to touch Machida. lol
Y'know what? I gotta be honest here, Im so sick of this Shogun train everyone is jumping on. His game plan was to kick Machida in the legs and body..... and for doing it for 5 rounds straight and still not being able to pull off a dominant offense or even be able to take Machida off his feet is ridiculous! He didnt dominate anything. what he did was boring and not as effective as it looked, had it been Machida would have been taken down and pounnded out
Posted By: Nate (Guest) on January 28, 2010 at 03:36 AM
Shogun-Machida fight was a technical masterpiece. And no,Im not trying to sound like an elitist,but Im interested in the details of MMA,not only the KOs,and it was a really exciting fight,I sat on the edge of my seat through 25 minutes.
Saying that Shogun didnt make any damage is also stupid. Maybe the head shots are the only one you notice,but they are not the only one what counts.
I recommend you the Ultimate Knockouts DVD or something. Thats maybe a "good fight".
Of,and agree with Brad,Couture getting a title shot after his victory over Coleman is pathetic...Im not complaining about title shots,but when there is 3-4 guys who deserve it more,and another 2-3 who deserve it just as much as you do...you have no business fighting for the title
Posted By: SoulBrotherNo1 (Guest) on January 28, 2010 at 07:08 AM
lol whats that thing representing shogun in that poster for ufc 115?
Posted By: wylun (Guest) on January 28, 2010 at 12:15 AM
A ninja I think
Posted By: Juan (Guest) on January 28, 2010 at 09:34 AM
i'm the world's biggest machida fan, that said, shogun won their first fight. it always seems like the noobs that don't quite understand whats going on that think that machida won. i wish he did, but on that night shogun was the superior fighter. hopefully the next fight is different. WAR MACHIDA!!!
Posted By: moon boobs (Guest) on January 28, 2010 at 10:52 AM
UFC Needs more awsome posters like they do over in Japan
Posted By: E-Van (Guest) on January 28, 2010 at 10:55 AM
i was at a bar for the shogun/machida fight and wasn't paying much attention. i remember when it was coming to a decision NO ONE knew who was coming away with the win. a lot of people were yelling when Machida won, but for the most part everyone knew the decision could have went either way
Shogun was not robbed, if you leave it in the judge's hands you really can't complain. You want to be the champ, you need to BEAT the champ
Posted By: mae (Guest) on January 28, 2010 at 11:27 AM
lol whats that thing representing shogun in that poster for ufc 115?
Posted By: wylun (Guest) on January 28, 2010 at 12:15 AM
A ninja I think
Posted By: Juan (Guest) on January 28, 2010 at 09:34 AM
More likely to be a samurai
Posted By: The_Mystical_Ninja (Guest) on January 28, 2010 at 03:16 PM
lol whats that thing representing shogun in that poster for ufc 115?
Posted By: wylun (Guest) on January 28, 2010 at 12:15 AM
A ninja I think
Posted By: Juan (Guest) on January 28, 2010 at 09:34 AM
More likely to be a samurai
Posted By: The_Mystical_Ninja (Guest) on January 28, 2010 at 03:16 PM
It's a fucking SHOGUN!!!
Posted By: Haku (Guest) on January 28, 2010 at 06:54 PM
Good read. Btdubs, that is hands down the most epic PPV poster the UFC has ever made. 2nd to the 94 poster.
Posted By: Guest#7919 (Guest) on January 28, 2010 at 06:55 PM
"Shogun did absolutely nothing
Clearly lost the fight"
...Did you even watch it? Shogun did a lot of damage to Machida, hit him WAY more than anyone else has to date, regardless of whether you think he deserved to win the decision or not.
He never had Machida rocked, but it was a gradually beating(Shogun did take hits of his own mind you, but Machida looked worse off) in a close fight. It just didn't favor Shogun in the judges eyes.
Posted By: Guest#1927 (Guest) on January 27, 2010 at 11:50 PM
you are insane
shogun tapped his legs for 5 rounds
machida tagged his face
you tell me whos the victor
MACHIDA ALL DAY
OVER SHOGUNS BORING ASS TACTICS
Posted By: Guest#2814 (Guest) on January 28, 2010 at 10:42 PM
Please somone, everyone talks about Big Nogs Great Supperrior boxing may I ask you what the hell gives you that opionion, I havnt seen every fight but Ive seen a lot and every fight who couldnt stand with anyone
I dont count coture because he barely got that and cotures too old
Posted By: Guest#5411 (Guest) on January 28, 2010 at 10:44 PM
Please somone, everyone talks about Big Nogs Great Supperrior boxing may I ask you what the hell gives you that opionion, I havnt seen every fight but Ive seen a lot and every fight who couldnt stand with anyone
I dont count coture because he barely got that and cotures too old
Posted By: Guest#5411 (Guest) on January 28, 2010 at 10:44 PM
Here we go again. It's LITTLE NOG. The UFC light heavyweight. And yes, he does have great boxing, all you need to do is check out the Luiz Cane fight. Besides, I doubt I would be talking about Big Nog earning a crack at the Light heavyweight title, don't you think?
Posted By: Samer Kadi (Registered) on January 29, 2010 at 06:18 AM
ppl pls stop confusing Rogerio Nog w/ Rodrigo Nog. With that being said, wasn't this supposed to be an article about the LHW landscape in '10. You didn't even mention the possibility of Forrest beating Nogueira and what would transpire then - such as a possible rematch with Shogun. Why does everyone constantly hate on Forrest? It's totally feasible that Forrest wins his fight against Nog.
Posted By: Guest#7107 (Guest) on January 29, 2010 at 08:27 AM
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