The Tuesday Takedown 02.05.08
Posted by Adam Morgan on 02.05.2008
In this week's edition of The Tuesday Takedown, we'll take a look back at UFC 81, who Chuck Liddell might be fighting next, an ultimatum from Dana White to Mirko Cro Cop, and much more!
UFC 81 Thoughts
Brock Lesnar is no joke.
Did he lose? Yes. Is he capable of fighting on this level, especially given the UFC's lack of heavyweight talent? You bet your ass he's capable. Before Lesnar got caught in the kneebar he looked like everything that he was built up to be. He ragdolled Mir all over the place until he got caught in the kneebar. He took him down with ease, he almost knocked Mir out on the feet, and he pounded him in the face relentlessly. Are there still questions regarding Lesnar's game? Absolutely. His submission defense was quite lackluster. But he proved last night that he can hang with a former heavyweight champion and will have plenty of more fights down the road to climb up the heavyweight ladder. One thing that really impressed me was Lesnar's attitude after the fight. He was smiling, he knew he made a mistake, and was very humble. That's how you win fans over. Give Brock a bit more time and he will be the UFC's biggest star.
Props to Mir for hanging tough.
I'll eat my crow. I picked Lesnar in this fight and thought that if Lesnar had him in a position to where he was landing clean punches to Mir's face on the ground, Mir would cover his face, turn over on his side, and that would be the end of it. Props to Mir for hanging in with Lesnar when he was in the worst possible position during the fight. Any time you're in the Octagon with a BJJ black belt, anything can happen. Mir is one of the best heavyweight submission artists in the game and he stuck with his bread and butter and eventually caught Lesnar making a mistake and totally capitalized on it. Good win for Mir, hopefully this is the fight that lights a new fire under his career.
All that being said, Mazagatti's point deduction was awful.
How many times does it happen in the UFC where a guy takes several punches to the back of the head and the fighter landing the blows gets not one, not two, but three or even four warnings? Why did Lesnar immediately get a point taken away with no warning? He landed one blow to the back of Mir's head and automatically Mazagatti is stepping in and taking a point away from Lesnar and restarting the fight on their feet. My personal take is that Mazagatti was stepping in to stop the fight and realized that he totally fucked up and then had to make up for it. When he jumped in, it looked like even he was confused as to why he jumped in. So he had to make up for it somehow and that somehow was by taking a point away from Lesnar and restarting the fight. Too bad for Lesnar because he was in a very, very dominant position at that point during the fight. I'm not taking anything away from Mir's victory, he won fair and square and this is no excuse for Lesnar's loss, but Mazagatti's actions in the Octagon last night were bush league at best.
Nogueira is about as hard to finish as they come.
Is there a tougher fighter to finish than Minotauro? Tim Sylvia beat him up for two and a half rounds, almost knocking him out on more than one occasion. But Nogueira weathered the storm, fought through adversity, waited for his one moment to capitalize, and took full advantage of it. Once Nogueira was able to get the fight to the ground it was his game. He swept Sylvia, passed his guard, and set up a trap for Sylvia to put himself into the guillotine choke. Beautiful BJJ by arguably the best submission artist in mixed martial arts today. One of Nogueira's talents is his durability. That's a pretty nice advantage to have on your side going into the Octagon. He can take a massive amount of punishment and keep on coming. It's what he's done for years. Great win for Nogueira, but who the hell is "Handy Couture"?
Tim Sylvia deserves a rematch.
Boohoo. So you don't like Tim Sylvia. Too bad because the guy deserves a rematch after dominating the fight for two and a half rounds. He enacted the exact gameplan we all thought he would and he was winning the fight handily until the final moments. Sylvia has worked his ass off to get to where he's at with little to no pure athletic ability and one hundred percent work ethic. There may not be a harder working individual in mixed martial arts and he does it because that's what he has to do to keep up with the pack. For as dominant as he was last night he simply made a mistake. He deserves another shot to make history and become a three time UFC heavyweight champion.
Was that the best Nate Marquardt we've ever seen?
He dominated Jeremy Horn from start to finish. Horn didn't look in too great of shape and Marquardt looked to be in the best shape we've ever seen him in. It looks like the loss against Anderson Silva has really lit a fire under him to get better. Horn, on the other hand, just doesn't look like he's into the sport anymore at least as a fighter. He's fought over one hundred times and held numerous accolades so what more is there for him to do? He was just overpowered last night by a more in shape, focused, and well rounded fighter. Marquardt came to bump last night and Horn looked like he was collecting a paycheck. Nice win for Marquardt over a guy who is always dangerous just based on talent alone.
Ricardo Almeida is back, kinda.
There isn't a lot to be said about Almeida's performance last night because it was over so quickly. Yundt just wasn't ready for that top shelf BJJ yet and Almeida made him pay for it. He finished with an arm-in guillotine choke, the hardest kind to finish. Almeida's in shape and he has top shelf jiu jitsu and right now that's enough to contend in the UFC's lackluster middleweight division. Welcome back, Big Dog.
Tyson Griffin did what he does and that's win decisions.
Tyson Griffin is a master of grinding out tough decisions over tough fighters. It's just what he does and he did it again last night against a bigger opponent. Tibau was able to take Griffin down a couple of times but was never able to keep him there. When they were on the feet, Griffin got the better of the exchanges, landing a right hand over and over again square on Tibau's jaw. If there's one thing we should know by now about Tyson Griffin, it's that you should always be looking to finish him. If you don't finish him he will most likely do enough during the fight to gut out a decision. What plays into Tyson's favor, though, is that he's extremely hard to finish. Not a bad combination. Griffin was talking about possibly moving up to 170 lbs. here soon. That would be a bad move. 155 lbs. is the perfect weight for him and last night was a perfect example of why.
Tim Boetsch came out of nowhere.
Wow. I want to see more of this guy for sure. He manhandled David Heath from the outset of the fight and literally ragdolled him at the end of the fight, throwing Heath right onto his head out of a whizzer and then pummeling him in the face with punches. Seriously explosive light heavyweight. I said during the Pain Poll that I would have picked the guy had it not been such short notice. Next time I'll know better. More Boetsch, less Heath please.
Chuck Liddell vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua is confirmed
Shogun will get his chance to enact some revenge on Chuck Liddell for beating his friend and training partner, Wanderlei Silva. It will be hard to pick against Chuck coming off of such a dominant victory in his fight against Wanderlei but it will also be hard to pick against a presumably healthy Shogun Rua. This is another one of those dream matchups that we've all wanted to see ever since the old PRIDE days and now we are getting to see it come to fruition. A win for either man would have to propel them right into the thick of things in the light heavyweight title picture.
Dana White tells Mirko Cro Cop that he needs a decision
Yesterday was the "deadline" that Dana White set for Mirko Cro Cop to inform him of what he's doing for his career moving forward. Cro Cop has been nothing short of a bust during his time in the UFC and I'm sure Dana wants to get his fight contract over with so he can renegotiate Cro Cop's contract for less money. It seems strangely odd to me that here we are talking about Cro Cop's career path after a 1-2 record in the UFC. Many thought last year that Cro Cop would almost certainly be the UFC's heavyweight champion by now. Oh how the mighty have fallen.
And, as always, I leave you with...
Off The Beaten Path
This is totally off the beaten path. I found this video of Yves Edwards' third professional fight and thought I would pass it along. Apparently the story goes that Yves went to a mixed martial arts event in Beaumont, TX and met Bas Rutten there. Yves' opponent didn't show up but he agreed to fight a guy that was 20+ lbs. heavier than he was. As an added bonus, Bas decides that he'll corner the young Yves Edwards and when Yves wins, he'll offer him a ride in his limo. Fantastic stuff.
Tim Sylvia deserves rematch? Are you kidding? Why? By that logic, Heath Herring should get the first title shot because he had Noguiera on Queer Street after that head-kick. I’ll never understand why people are on Sylvia’s dick as much as they are. So the guy trains hard. Big deal? Most guys at that level train themselves close to death. The problem with Sylvia is that he almost always goes out there and lumbers around the ring with a stupid haircut and sucks the life out of the fans. Don’t get me wrong; Tim used to be great. His fight against Cabbage, his first title win, and his fight with Telligman were great. But after his losses to Mir and Arlovski, he seems like he is more content to play it safe in the ring rather than go for the kill.
Posted By: Kuch (Guest) on February 05, 2008 at 10:17 AM
Fire Mazagatti!
Posted By: Jimmy (Guest) on February 05, 2008 at 10:19 AM
time for tim to fight somebody else, he got his chance. noguera is the man and it would be my wet dream match to see couture vs noguera. fuck fedor he aint going to really mean shit anymore with those cans he fighting.
Posted By: frankie (Guest) on February 05, 2008 at 01:09 PM
"Lesnar had him in a position to where he was landing clean punches to Mir's face on the ground, Mir would cover his face, turn over on his side, and that would be the end of it." BUT MAZAGATTI SAVED HIS ASS! How many times has this happened in the past only to have the referee stop the fight because the fighter that's getting pummeled isn't doing ANYTHING to intelligently defend himself? GOOD STRATEGY, next time someone's pounding my head in (& mazagatti is refereeing), I'll just turn my head, proceed to accidentally get hit in the back ONE TIME, and voila, he'll stand us up again (nevermind keeping us in the same advantage/disadvantage position). "Props to Mir for hanging in with Lesnar when he was in the worst possible position during the fight. Any time you're in the Octagon with a BJJ black belt, anything can happen." Yeah, this should've read: Any time you're in the Octagon with MAZAGATTI.....
Posted By: Guest#9252 (Guest) on February 05, 2008 at 02:00 PM
I don't "hate" Tim Sylvia like a lot of people do, but he's arguably one of the most boring fighters in the UFC these days. All of his fights have been slow and methodical and BORING *snoooooooooze zzzzzzzzz* aside from the domination from Randy in their match. Other than seeing Sylvia fight other strikers (Cro Cop, Kongo especially), I could care less if that was Tim's last fight.
Posted By: Nick (Guest) on February 05, 2008 at 02:20 PM
hell yeah big ups to beaumont, tx.
Posted By: mike (Guest) on February 05, 2008 at 03:10 PM
watch the lesnar fight again. He landed 5 shots to the back of the head - not one:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-GUD9QsXcAM
Posted By: soo (Guest) on February 05, 2008 at 03:14 PM
it appeared to me that Mir turned his head away from Lesnar's flurry, so it was his own fault for getting clocked in the back of the head. Also, if you watch the finish again, mazagatti was very slow in stopping the fight after Lesnar's very obvious tappout...and mazagatti just stared at it. I think he had it in for brock....
Posted By: furey (Guest) on February 05, 2008 at 05:58 PM
that call by mazagatti was bullshit. i agree with you that he was going to stop the fight, then realized he fucked up. And for anyone saying that his point being taken away was justified without warning, look at a recent main event that Mazagatti refereed: GSP vs Hughes. GSP hit Hughes (some weren't even that accidental) maybe 10 times in the back of the head, and Mazagatti gave him 4, (!!!) yes 4, warnings! That stoppage and point deduction on Lesnar was bullshit and IMO, Lesnar would have knocked Mir out if it wasnt for the Stache...
Posted By: timepants (Guest) on February 06, 2008 at 12:54 AM
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