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MMA Analytics 02.11.07: UFC's Heavyweight Exodus?
Posted by Leland Roling on 02.11.2008



The UFC is once again having problems in their Heavyweight division. After some potentially explosive matchups for the division at UFC 81, some news out of Tim Sylvia's camp hit the 'Net this week. According to Tim Sylvia's own forum posting, "The Maine-iac" is considering a move to another organization for a number of reasons. First and foremost on that list, the salary that the UFC offered Brock Lesnar has struck the wrong cord with Sylvia. He also states that he only has one fight left on his contract and, his manager, Monte Cox, has the footing to get him a deal with M-1 Global.

This brings up some very interesting questions regarding the UFC's Heavyweight division and the tactics that the UFC has been using to bring talent to the division. Questions regarding the UFC's salary structure in which fighters who have lesser experience, but big buyrate draw for Pay-per-views are on the minds of the elite upper echelon talent in that division. Brock Lesnar brought in a $250,000 purse on a short loss to Frank Mir. The potential is there, but other fighters see this as a slap in the face. Tim Sylvia certainly does.

Does Sylvia deserve that kind of money? Many fans would say he doesn't for the mere fact that his excitement level has dropped off the face of the Earth. He hasn't managed to finish an opponent in any of his recent fights, and lost to both Randy Couture and "Minotauro" Nogueira. His last defeat was still only his fourth loss in his entire career spanning 28 total fights. He's beaten some of the elite such as Andrei Arlovski, Jeff Monson, and Brandon Vera. Shouldn't he get a large payday?

If the UFC plans on keeping the Heavyweight division as one of the best in the world, it's definitely going to be tough for Dana White. He'll either have to explain Brock's PPV potential to other fighters who will likely not want to hear about him, or he needs to start paying them what they deserve. One thing is for certain, M-1 Global waits in the shadows.

UFC's loss could be M-1 Global's gain

These days in MMA, lower weight classes are reigning supreme in the excitement factor, but the heavyweights always hold dear to many fans. It pits huge men with great skills against one another with the potential for explosive knockouts. M-1 Global happens to have the all-time greatest Heavyweight as far as record is concerned. Many people would argue that other fighters have taken on a stronger schedule, but Nogueira is beginning to prove Fedor Emelianenko's greatness by knocking off the UFC's best. Fedor destroyed Nogueira in two meetings, and was on his way to another win when the fight was called a no-contest by accidental headbutt.

With arguably the best Heavyweight in the world in M-1 Global, it was likely that he would attract some competition. Unfortunately, the UFC's dollars spoke first. Many of the UFC's talent continued to fight in the Octagon, but the first of potentially many Heavyweights may have already sealed his fate with another organization. Andrei Arlovski has stated that he will fulfill his contract and take on Jake O'Brien on a "slap in the face" undercard matchup. It's obvious that he will be looking for more money in the free agent market even though the UFC continues to say that their relationship with his management is "excellent".

What's the potential gain for the other organizations out there? Assembling a big name Heavyweight lineup that could rival the UFC's division, and also could begin luring other names to the promotion. M-1 Global has the best prospects with both Emelianenko brothers. Randy Couture wants to fight Fedor, and it likely will only happen in M-1 Global. He won't stick around, and most likely will be done with fighting after the matchup, but it still has the biggest chance of happening there. Add in Andrei Arlovski, Tim Sylvia, Josh Barnett, and possibly Ben Rothwell, an older but tough Jeff Monson, and Mark Hunt, although doing the pro-wrestling bit in Japan, could see a contract offer. Many of the dream matchups that fans have wanted to see are there. Sylvia, Arlovski, and Barnett are all matchups that we've wanted to see, although Arlovski would have to gain the pounds.

EliteXC may be courting some of the talent as well, and the rumor is that ProElite may be bought out by IMG within the next couple of months, a huge backer for EliteXC. With that kind of influx of cash, there is a potential for higher profile fighters to move to their heavyweight division that features Kimbo Slice and Antonio Silva.

The Bigger Picture

So, what can we gain from Sylvia hinting toward moving away from the UFC? Randy Couture may very well have been right. It seems that the word on the street is that Zuffa hasn't been treating their fighters with the utmost respect they deserve in the place where it matters most, their pocketbook. Sylvia has stated in the past that the UFC hasn't treated him very well, especially in the marketing department. He claimed that White told him that there wasn't enough time to put up an extensive campaign to market the big man in the interim title bout, but it's obvious White wanted to gain more buys with Brock Lesnar.

Promoting a big fight takes a lot of time, but I believe that Zuffa's intention was not to promote Nogueira vs. Sylvia, but try to gain the WWE market with Lesnar's fight, which was the smart thing to do from a business perspective. Sylvia's main problem is his pocketbook and Lesnar's huge purse after a quick loss. He also has much more inexperience in the sport. Sylvia has been with the UFC for most of his career, and isn't reaping the benefits of staying loyal to the promotion. I see Sylvia leaving after his last fight, unless he is boosted in pay considerably. That may not be Zuffa's intention since Sylvia hasn't been exciting, and his drawing power is low.

The recent events are beginning to show character flaws in Zuffa's treatment of fighters. It's a business, but there are other things that the UFC could do in order to keep fighters happy. Obviously, the UFC isn't doing a very good job when Couture leaves the promotion and states that he was "disrespected", Tito Ortiz has basically said that he will be looking elsewhere, and now Sylvia may depart. Tito is one of the bigger stories because of his drawing power and exposure to the general public. It's going to be an interesting few months for the UFC. Will they become a lovable giant to some of these fighters, or will they allow another promotion to sneak in the backdoor and have a legitimate division to compete with the UFC's own?

Leland Roling is the editor-in-chief of MMA-Analyst.com


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Whatever Happens I Dont See Brock Getting The Same Pay Next Time Around

Posted By: Paul (Guest)  on February 11, 2008 at 01:26 AM

 
 
Brock signed a four fight deal with the UFC. he will get $250,000 forhis next three fights at least

Posted By: Guest#2432 (Guest)  on February 11, 2008 at 08:43 AM

 
 
If Brock keeps drawing buys, and keeps having exciting fights he will get paid again. When you have boring fights like Sylvia you don't. The UFC is in hte business of entertainment, and the unfortunate reality is that in that business you get paid based on your ability to entertain, not necessarily on your amount of skill. Tito has always understood this and he continues to be a big draw even though hes probably not even a top 15 fighter in his division. Of course he may not get the money he deserves becaue Dana hates his big head, but that's another story....

Posted By: Matt (Guest)  on February 11, 2008 at 10:21 AM

 
 
Back in the day Tim Sylvia had beaten the elite. Too bad the notches on his belt have been largely forgotten because those guys aren't the elite anymore. Arlovski's about done anyway and the Vera fight was boring and nothing more than a size mismatch. Tim Sylvia has fallen far off the top of the mountain and there are many more talented heavyweights in the UFC now than there were when he was on top of the heap. Bye bye Tim, no one will miss you and your boring fights.

Posted By: Nick (Guest)  on February 11, 2008 at 11:16 AM

 
 
The UFC's Heavyweight division is still growing. But from Tim Sylvia saying he dosen't want to leave by his most recent coments. Even if They lost Andre Arlovski how big of a loss would it be? He did win a very boring decision aganist Fabricio Werdum and lost a very boring fight to Tim Sylvia. Jake O'Brien is no slouch and with there signing of Shane Cardwell I see it as more of a rebuilding stage than anything. They do have Big Nog, Fabricio Werdum, Gabriel Gonzaga, Tim Sylvia, Chiek Kongo, Brandon Vera, Frank Mir and Mirco Cro Crop as a good core of Heavyweights. I don't see the problem as much as you do aparently?

Posted By: Andrej (Guest)  on February 11, 2008 at 11:43 AM

 
 
It's obvious that Tim Sylvia doesn't see it this way, and other fighters don't either, but in reality, Business is what drives MMA. Sylvia needs to become more exciting to get more money, plain and simple.

Posted By: Leland Roling (Guest)  on February 11, 2008 at 12:13 PM

 
 
I can understand their frustration, but the fighters' arguments are flawed from the start. In this sport the most skilled doesn't automatically warrant the largest paycheck. Why? Unlike the majority of other sports, the UFC draws the majority of it's income from PPV buys. If you have incredibly talented fighters that no-one cares to see, then you don't get the interest which gives you the high buyrates which allow the option of a big paycheck. In order to get paid, you have to be able to 'put butts in seats'. Those that can draw help pay the salaries of those who can't.

Posted By: Trace (Guest)  on February 11, 2008 at 01:21 PM

 
 
I would talk about leaving too if I was a former champ who just lost 2 out of 3. Sylvia is the most over-rated heavyweight in the UFC. He beat Arlovski twice after losing to him... I'm almost impressed. Go ahead and leave, you big goon. That's all you are in the UFC--the big goon everyone loves to hate.

Posted By: scott m (Guest)  on February 11, 2008 at 07:02 PM

 
 
Fine... Sylvia vs. Lesnar, book it for Sylvia's last fight. If he wins, then he's got something to negotiate with. If not, good riddance to bad rubbish.

Posted By: Antigoth (Guest)  on February 11, 2008 at 10:26 PM

 
 
did someone say that arlovski wasn't elite anymore? his last fight he not only beat the current number one contender, he dominated him. Sylvia may be boring to you, but did anyone find the nogiera fight boring? styles make fights, and sylvia was fighting hurt for awhile, all of his losses are to heavyweight champions...mma will struggle to gain the exceptance as a real sport if its fighters are judged by how exciting they are...when's the last time anyone has seen an exciting bernard hopkins fight? it doesn't matter...if you're good then you're good, so a bunch of pro wrestling marks who like smaller guys can't stand a big guy with a slower pace...boohoo go watch old tapes of rey mysterio vs. juventud guerrera if that's what you want, just shut the hell up here on the mma side of things. This is a sport, not entertainment, but a sport...unless dana white remembers that this is a sport ufc will lose it's number one spot.

Posted By: romano (Guest)  on February 12, 2008 at 07:56 AM

 
 
TANK VERSUS KIMBO BABY! REAL FIGHTS! NONE OF THAT WUSSY UFC ARMBAR CRAP!

Posted By: Screw UFC (Guest)  on February 13, 2008 at 07:29 PM

 
 
Tank versus Kimbo? I’m sure that will put butts in the seats (sarcasm is intentional).

If Tim walks away, he better find an organization that lets him work part time, because he won’t be making any type of decent money outside of the UFC. Dana has some strange type of tolerance for Sylvia, but I doubt it will last. Sylvia has been exposed by his losses to Randy and Big Nog. Granted, he lost to top guys, but the truth is that now everyone knows he has no ground game. To top it off, his victories as of late have been snooze-fests. In my opinion, he should leave the UFC and try to rebuild himself as a fighter. As far as the heavyweight division goes, I’m pretty sure the UFC will be fine.


Posted By: Kuch (Guest)  on February 13, 2008 at 11:35 PM

 


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