MMA Spotlight 4.17.08: Tito Ortiz is Not Worth Keeping in the UFC
Posted by Reuel Mante on 04.17.2008
And I explain why.
Tito Ortiz is not worth keeping in the UFC.
The Huntington Beach Bad Boy is anything but lately. I had the honor of seeing an interview with Tito and Jenna Jameson talking about how they are done with the UFC after his fight with Lyoto Machida. If I was one of the Fertitta brothers, I would be saying, "Goodbye, Jacob Tito Huntington Beach Bad Boy Ortiz!" Why? Let's look at the facts.
When Tito was a dominant force in the light-heavyweight division, who were his opponents? Vladimir Matyushenko, Elvis Sinosic, Evan Tanner, and Ken Shamrock. Not to mention Wanderlei Silva when Tito won the title but there was also Yuki Kondo who was better served fighting as a middleweight. Now let's focus on the fight that truly made Tito a name. He would go on to destroy a man named Ken Shamrock who was 38 at the time. Ken was coming back from a disappointing loss at the hands of Don Frye. Not only that, Ken was still recovering from multiple injuries he acquired from years in the WWE. Here comes Tito, passing up an opportunity to fight Chuck Liddell, to fight a broken down man passed his fighting prime. I know what you're thinking. "We've all heard this before, Reuel." Sure you have. But this is where Tito's usefulness in the UFC started to dwindle.
After the fight with Ken comes the question about when Ortiz will face the Iceman. Depending on whom you listen to or would rather believe, Ortiz publicly stated that he and Chuck were friends. Chuck would deny that fact. Personally I believe that Tito's story is all B.S. Instead of giving the fans (that he loved so dearly) the fight we all wanted to see, we get some story of a contract dispute. I'm not entirely so bitter about it because without the situation involving the light-heavyweight title, we would have never seen the resurgence of Randy Couture's career play out the way it did back in 2003. Ah, good times.
Let's fast forward to 2006. Tito is no longer the light-heavyweight champion. After dropping two losses to Randy and Chuck, he rebounded with back to back wins over Patrick Cote and Vitor Belfort. He would then take a break by trying to break into pro wrestling. Excuse me while I throw up a little in my mouth.
Ortiz's first fight back in 2006 was against Forrest Griffin. In a hotly contested battle, Tito would squeak by with a split decision victory. I, among many others, feel that Forrest was royally screwed in that fight. Then, who does Tito fight next? Ken Shamrock. That's right, it wasn't bad enough he beat a broken down fighter at 38 years old. He had to beat him up at 42 years old now. Not once but twice! What kind of purpose did Dana White or Joe Silva actually believe this would serve? Sure, higher ratings matter but both fights were brutal to watch! As you probably already know, Ken would lose both fights in the first round.
Then the announcement that we've been waiting for: Because Tito has won five fights in a row, he is now the number one contender to Chuck Liddell's light-heavyweight title. I should tell you that I was truly excited for this fight. This was Chuck's chance to further his legacy and was Tito's chance to get the belt he's been wanting back for three years. In what was Tito's finest performance since losing to Frank Shamrock, he was TKO'd in the third round.
That was Tito's last chance to mean something in the UFC.
It would be another seven months before we get another Tito Ortiz fight. Who was he fighting? The winner of the Ultimate Fighter 2, Rashad Evans. What was supposed to be a fight that Tito SHOULD have won, ended up being a disaster with the result, a draw. The draw came about as he was deducted a point in the second round for grabbing the fence. Since it was a tie, it was pretty clear that Tito won the first two rounds! His explanation: "If you're not cheating, you ain't trying." No, if you're cheating and get caught, you ain't winning!
Tito is now scheduled to fight undefeated Lyoto Machida at UFC 84 in May. I hope you read that right. The fight is in May which means that Tito Ortiz has been inactive for ten months. As soon as the fight was announced, there were reports of Tito complaining about having to fight someone like Lyoto. Apparently, Lyoto was beneath him. How so? In the past year, we have been treated to four dominant victories from Machida. In the past sixteen months, we've been treated to a third round knockout loss and three round draw from Tito. Who's higher on the totem pole?
Let's breakdown the fight:
Lyoto Machida
Shotokan Karate black belt
a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu expert
fights out of Black House with the Nogueira brothers and Anderson Silva
Versus:
Tito Ortiz
A wrestler who trains at Team Punishment with Rob McCullough, Melvin Guillard, and Matt Hamill.
Sorry, it looks like the odds are stacked against Tito this time. Lyoto has more tools at his disposal to beat Tito. Not only to beat Tito but to finish him before the end of the third. Ortiz will have to go to the same old routine that brought him to the dance. Shoot for a takedown, maintain control in Machida's guard, and press him up to the cage, and ground and pound until the end of the round. Lyoto has knockout power (as he showed against Rich Franklin) and he can submit (as evident by his fight with Sokoudjou). Looks like someone was complaining because Machida was a fighter Tito can't beat.
After May, what's next for Tito? Well, there is always Strikeforce where he can have a rematch with Frank Shamrock. There is also EliteXC where he can be a major star in a company that needs mainstream talent if they're going to stay on CBS. He could also join Tim Sylvia at Adrenaline MMA. However, there are two places that I would like to see him go.
First of all, there's the IFL. Not only would Ortiz become an instant star riding the coattails of his former UFC career, he would also be able to present a team that he coaches, further establishing the name Team Punishment. We've seen the team separately represented by Tito, Rob McCullough, and Tiki Ghosn. Why not show the whole team as a unit and dominate the IFL?
Secondly, there's Dream. What better way to reestablish your legacy than become a huge star in Japan? Automatically, Tito will be a star and if he were to rack up wins against the local Japanese light-heavyweights, even bigger paydays will follow. There's been an argument that UFC does not promote its fighters well. The Japanese love their American fighters. Just look at Don Frye, Josh Barnett, and Mark Coleman. Mark Coleman did a razor commercial with Wanderlei Silva in Japan. The sky is the limit for Tito in Dream!
There is a commonality with these two promotions. The fights are contested in a ring. That is an aspect that could force to Tito to change his game plan. A notable discussion can be made if Tito makes the transition. 2007 saw quite a few former Pride fighters struggle to make the transition from the ring to the cage. With different rules from Japan to the U.S, any fighter would have difficulties. This could be a chance to see it from the other side. How would Tito, a veteran cage fighter, fare against opponents in a ring were stomps and knees to a downed opponent is allowed but elbows to the head are illegal?
Wherever Tito Ortiz ends up after UFC 84 is anyone's guess. Does he still belong in the UFC? I don't think so. The company has made enough money without him in the past year. He is no longer the name that brings buy rates and PPV buys. Chuck Liddell does that already.
I think Tito is still one of their big draws. However, he has always had a chip on his shoulder and this impasse has been coming for a while, due to a perceived lack of respect from Dana White and Zuffa. To them, he became a high-profile gatekeeper who justifies his existence because he can still generate heat around a fight, get a buyrate in and can make a star by being beaten. Now Chuck is no longer the LHW champ, he is now their high-profile gatekeeper and Tito just isn't worth the hassle.
It's not about in-ring performance, he's still one of the best they have at 205.
Posted By: Mike Farrow (Registered) on April 17, 2008 at 05:59 AM
shut the fuck up if Tito wins?
Posted By: Will you (Guest) on April 17, 2008 at 08:41 AM
um mike you're gonna have to define one of the best for me here. To me one of the best is a fighter who dominates high calibur opponents and finishes fights. Who has tito finished recently? A 40+ year old Shamrock who just got his ass kicked by jingle billy out in Cali. I wouldn't even place Tito in the top 10 light heavies in the world anymore. now if he beats lyoto i will most likely change my opinions but right now, there is no way Tito is one of the best. He couldn't beat Rashad and to me personally couldn't beat Forrest, he can't beat Liddell, theres no way he can beat rampage and i doubt even henderson, and there is no doubt in my mind that Lyoto will finish him. So how is he one of the best when i just named 6 fighters who he can't beat. those 6 are the best light heavies the UFC has to offer and there are more that you could debate are better then Tito.
Get with the times man, Tito is yesterdays news and while still a good fighter has no chance against top competition, at least in the ufc, i'm sure he could go other places and get served cans for a few more years.
Posted By: stronelis (Guest) on April 17, 2008 at 09:13 AM
VERY well written piece. Im not normally a big mma fan but ive seen Tito both fight and run his mouth so seeing him take a few falls is a bit satisfying. Big props on not furthering the whole "Jenna Jameson is ruining Tito" deal.
Posted By: CM Wolf (Guest) on April 17, 2008 at 10:45 AM
you're right we already knew this before. although i didn't know he tried to break into professional wrestling. i know that everyone is all hyped on machida, but i for one can't stand the guy. just saying. i have yet to see a truly exciting fight from him, and with Sokoudjou i felt like we were seeing another pride fighter struggling in his first transition match.
Posted By: ritter (Guest) on April 17, 2008 at 11:10 AM
Tito is still a top draw and is still the only Mexican draw that the UFC have no matter how hard they try to push Diego and Roger. Mexican fans buy ppv's and they'll buy anything that Tito is on. I personally hope Tito goes to Elite XC, because I feel like as long as Dana White is in charge he won't get a fair shake.
As for you being in disbelief as to how Tito could believe he's a notch above Lyoto. Tito is a former champ and Lyoto is still a contender so yeah right now Lyoto is a notch below Tito. Anyway, I don't see Chuck lining up to fight Lyoto or anyone else for that matter. This is a lose lose situation for Tito and he has nothing to gain from this fight except his freedom. Give Tito the credit he deserves for taking this fight, and oh if Tito wins the fight which I'll admit is a long shot the UFC is letting a very valuable commodity slip away. It isn't a coincidence that Tito has been involved in the most lucrative ppv's or that he single handedly carried the UFC on his back during the lean years.
Posted By: Lupe (Guest) on April 17, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Yeah, suuuuuure, Tito is not worth keeping in the UFC.
*rolls eyes*
The dude's ONLY been in the main event of the biggest UFC event EVER with Liddell back @ UFC 66.
Before, his UFC 61 event with the rematch with shamrock, drew 750,000 buys even after we all knew that Tito would smash him.
The rematch on Spike was the highest watched UFC moment on TV EVER.
So let's see, the dude is MONEY, he's always been a big draw whether anyone likes him or not.
People who love him, buy into his smack talk. While the people who hate him, pay to see him get his ass whooped.
It's a win/win situation for Dana.
Posted By: Chris (Guest) on April 17, 2008 at 04:57 PM
Tito is a world class MMA fighter, never count out a world class MMA fighter. I don't know how many of you may have ever seen him in person but he is the most genuine cat I've ever seen in public. Shamrock acts like a prick to people at events and Tito stays to sign autographs and chat. That info aside I say Tito destroys his opponent and does whatever the heck he wants in MMA because he's that good. That's why they fight guys, to see who wins that night, look at the top 100 MMA fighters in the world, add up their winning percentages and you'll find that they aren't all 90% victories. Some are close to even, records don't mean shit to any one who knows MMA so don't go on about how sure you are Tito will lose. Matt Serra in 2!
Posted By: efrench9 (Registered) on April 17, 2008 at 09:39 PM
Yeah, I don't see why Tito's still in UFC. His best days are clearly behind him, and have been for some time. He hasn't beaten a decent fighter in years, and doesn't seem to have the desire to put in the effort anymore. I see Machida submitting him next month.
Posted By: kaktus316 (Guest) on April 19, 2008 at 05:38 PM
I will be suprised if Machida can dominate this fight from the off. Both fighter present different problems for the other, Lyoto keeps his distance and Tito needs to close that distance. We will find who's game plan works the best and if Tito gets dominated then i would agree with the general consent that tito is past it. I dont believe that will happen and would not be supprised if Machida gets introduced to tito's elbows in this fight.
Posted By: andy (Guest) on April 21, 2008 at 05:30 AM
tito is one of the main reasons people started to watch ufc he is a good fighter and only lost to randy and liddell lately losing to them theres no shame in that. many people will be buying ufc 84 just to see tito fight. he draws big ppv buys and the ufc would not be the same without him. if he leaves it will slightly hurt the ufc and where ever he goes to fight next i know alot of people alot of people will follow. im not saying they wont watch ufc anymore but they will pay elsewhere to see tito fight. i think it will be a big mistake to let tito leave. take of my comments as you will.................
Posted By: kert (Guest) on April 21, 2008 at 07:45 PM