The Double Leg Breakdown 05.20.08: Oddsmakers Have Penn As Heavy Favorite At UFC 84
Posted by Don Nguyen on 05.20.2008
Sean Sherk fans and experts alike seem to give Sherk a nearly even chance to win his fight against BJ Penn but oddsmakers see it differently seeing Penn as the heavy favorite going into the fight. Upon closer inspection, perhaps this matchup is not as even as it appears on the surface.
Well, it is finally here: possibly the most anticipated matchup of the year, and certainly the most anticipated Lightweight matchup in recent memory. This weekend we will see BJ Penn defend his title against the former UFC Lightweight Champion Sean Sherk. Many if not most within the MMA community are calling this an almost even matchup but bookmakers have the odds on this bout at -265 Penn and +215 Sherk. I believe this means that oddsmakers are giving Penn roughly between 70 - 80% chance to win this fight. I'm a betting man myself, so typically, I look for cracks in the armor of the oddsmakers' reasoning, but frankly, after looking at this matchup more closely, it's hard to argue against these odds. I am finding it hard to find any way for Sherk to win this bout.
UFC 84 IS PENN'S FIGHT TO LOSE
UFC 84 comes at the heels of an increasingly heated fued between Sherk and Penn. Both men are supremely confident in victory and both have legions of fans battling it out on MMA forums in the favor of each fighter respectively.
Defending UFC Lightweight Champion, BJ Penn
When I first played this matchup out in my mind, the outcome was murky. Penn being known for his brilliant Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (a.k.a. Brazilliant Jiu Jitsu), and Sherk being known for his cardio and his excellent wrestling, I pictured much of this bout happening on the ground with Penn on his back and Sherk in his guard, much like Sherk's fight with Hermes Franca. While I didn't see the fight being as one sided as Sherk-Franca, I also didn't see Penn submitting Sherk from his guard.
BJ Penn's expert BJJ is well documented. However, despite his yogi-like flexibility, Penn has not utilized his excellent rubber guard very effectively in MMA. Most of his submission victories have been achieved after he has achieved back control, not from his guard. We have seen Matt Hughes survive in BJ's guard, albeit barely. I think Sherk would pose an even greater threat to BJ in his guard than Hughes did.
Penn is a monster when he has a fighter's back
If the fight were to end up in this position, Penn would be hard pressed to pull off a submission would struggle sweeping Sherk. Sherk's limbs are too short and strong and his neck too thick and muscular for him to be in danger of being submitted by Penn in his guard. He is built like a crocodile. Sherk has never been submitted before in his career as a fighter and this is no coincidence. I could see BJ sweeping Sherk but not without a ton of effort. Sherk was only swept for the first time in his MMA career in his bout with Hermes Franca. BJ could definitely do it, but expending that kind of energy could really be a drain on Penn's already suspect gas tank.
In this scenario, I could see Sherk peppering away to a decision victory provided he could keep the fight in this position for the duration of 5 rounds. This seems to be the reasoning as to why many fans in the MMA forums are calling the fight for Sherk. The only problem with this theory is that it assumes Penn will let the fight get to this position at all.
Sherk has shown he has excellent takedowns, but his size has proven to be a problem for him at times. In his bout against Georges St. Pierre, GSP easily stuffed his takedown attempts. St. Pierre barely needed to sprawl at all and his legs were out of Sherk's reach. Penn is about as tall as GSP and has near legendary takedown defense after spending nearly the entire first round of his last fight with Matt Hughes hopping around on one leg and nearly ending up in a splitz. While I think St. Pierre's approach to defending takedowns is more practical (nothing beats a good solid sprawl), Penn has done more than enough in his bouts against Hughes and St. Pierre to convince me that he will be able to keep this fight against Sherk standing should he choose to.
I think a good game plan for Penn would be to keep this fight on his feet for as long as he can. Sherk's boxing is excellent and crisp, but the problem with this aspect of his game is that while his striking is fast and accurate, he lacks any kind of power behind his punches and his reach is also very short. BJ Penn stands at 5' 9" and outreaches Sherk substantially. By keeping the fight standing, BJ could conserve some of his energy for the possibility that the fight go into later rounds. He would more than likely get the better of the exchanges. Penn's striking, while not as polished as Sherk's, is extremely effective and accurate, and Penn has shown on more than one occasion to have real knockout power. I think standing, Sherk would not have a chance against Penn. I could see Penn stunning him early on in the fight and following him to the ground where he would finish him off with strikes.
Penn, though, has already publicly discussed his game plan. If he sticks to his word, expect to see Penn initiating the takedown himself and working to punish Sherk on the ground. I think this is also a solid game plan. Sherk's takedowns are the stuff of legend, but his takedown defense has yet to be tested really. BJ Penn's wrestling is severely underrated and very unconventional; not exactly the kind of wrestling that is easy to train for. I'm still a little mystified as to how he took Hughes down at UFC 46; it looks like he just kind of twirled him around then all of a sudden Hughes is on his back. How he intends to get Sherk to the ground is unknown; I definitely don't see him shooting for a double leg or doing a hip toss a la GSP. What I do know is that if he can get Sherk to the ground and maintain top control, Penn's wrestling is right up there with the best from this position, so Sherk will be in trouble. His balance and wrestling composure was palpable in his bout with Joe Stevenson who is one of the top wrestlers in the Lightweight division himself. He showed excellent ability to keep a fighter on their back during that fight. Sherk has few defenses for a fighter in his guard as his short limbs and poor flexibility eliminate most possible submissions. He is good at minizing damage while on his back and exhibited excellent escape ability in his fight with GSP, but escaping will just leave him in the same pickle of being out-boxed by Penn.
Ultimately, I think this fight will be decided with the takedown. Will Sherk execute a double leg takedown on BJ Penn like a knife through butter and make me eat my words? Or will BJ shock the Shark and put him on his back? Time will tell. But from what we have seen of both fighters so far, I think BJ Penn is a safe bet to win this fight.
Putting Sherk on his back makes sense. Wrestlers seem to look very uncomfortable being on their backs (see Hughes, Koscheck, Speer).
Posted By: konron (Guest) on May 19, 2008 at 11:39 PM
I luv BJ and this is a scary fight for him. I hope u r right.
Posted By: Jill the butcher (Guest) on May 20, 2008 at 06:12 AM
BJ Penn, by knock out... thats my guess. want more? How about in the second round.
I'll probably be wrong because I made my prediction public, but that is what I am thinking.
Posted By: Toddo (Guest) on May 20, 2008 at 11:38 AM
Are you retarded?
You said, refering to Sherk:
"exhibited excellent escape ability in his fight with GSP"
Did you even see that fight? GSP exploded Sherk to the floor and against the cage in round one and Sherk was saved by the bell. In round 2, same again, GSP smashed Sherk to the fence and Sherk had nothing until the TKO was rendered.
What are you possibly talking about. "exhibited excellent escape ability"
Dude, you didn't even see the fight.
You said Sherk has more polished boxing than Penn (which is an insane thing to say) but then you backtrack and say Sherk would not stand a chance standing against Penn (which is very true) but which is it man?
Posted By: Nepal4me (Guest) on May 20, 2008 at 02:24 PM
Hey Nepal4me, re-read it. Sherk has virtually no chance standing because he has virtually no reach compared to the taller penn, so while his striking may be more precise, he can't actually land anything without the reach. I hear they teach reading comprehension in third grade, you should look into it.
Posted By: MuayThai Mauler (Guest) on May 20, 2008 at 04:04 PM
Not to mention that Sherk is just more polished... with everything he does. Sherk lives and trains by a strict scientificly set way.
Penn, doesn't.
Granted, polished doesn't mean better- Liddell is one of the least polished strikers out there, but there's no denying that his power and unorthodox style work.
Posted By: cyks (Guest) on May 20, 2008 at 05:34 PM
My point really was about Sherk/GSP. However stating that Sherk has more polished striking than Penn isn't accurate. Penn has way more speed, way more power, way more accuracy and way more diversity of punches and punch combinations. Sherk more polished??? I don't think so.
p.s. thank you for the 3rd grade reading tip. Since you heard about it, does that imply that you never made it that far??? :-)
Posted By: Nepal4me (Guest) on May 21, 2008 at 03:35 AM
Nepal4me,
If I recall correctly, the very first thing that happened in the Sherk - St. Pierre fight is St. Pierre took him down and Sherk ended up on his back with St. Pierre in his butterfly guard. He kicked St. Pierre off off him and worked his way to his feet immediately. To me this demonstrated pretty impressive escape ability since it was against as strong a wrestler and as large a fighter as GSP.
As far as Sherk's boxing, I am referring strictly to his technique; specifically to his polished combinations. Penn has more power, accuracy, and reach on him which is why I do not think he could outstrike Penn.
Posted By: Don Nguyen (Guest) on May 21, 2008 at 07:48 PM
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