411’s MMA Roundtable Preview: UFC 88 – Breakthrough

Posted by Larry Csonka on 09.05.2008

With all of that Randy vs. Brock stuff, did you forget about the Iceman vs. Sugar Rashad?



WELCOME:
It is time again for another PPV extravaganza! It is September and over the next few weeks we will be treated to many cards from the UFC, WEC, Sttrikeforce, DREAM and more! Kicking off September is the latest UFC PPV, which seems completely lost in the shuffle due to the HUGE signing of Brock Lesnar vs. Randy Couture. But fear not, the 411 staff didn't forget about this show. Let's meet the staff and breakdown UFC 88: BREAKTHROUGH!


THE STAFF:

411 rankings guru Dustin James!

WEC, UFC and PRIDE reporter and columnist Jonathan Solomon!

From the MMA News Report, Morgan Marx!

The Cardio Freak himself Jeremy Lambert!

From the History of the UFC Matt McEwen!

The author of the Fighting Stance News Report Adam Tool!

From the Good, the Bad and the Ugly, Scott Kuczkowski!

And finally, your humble editor, Larry Csonka!

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UFC 88 - BREAKTHROUGH

THE UNDERCARD:
Dong Hyun Kim vs. Matt Brown
Dustin James: Matt Brown, you are in trouble my friend. Your 7-6 record is about to become a perfect .500 record because you have just ran into a man that goes by the nick name of "Stun Gun". Brown's lack of submission defense shouldn't hurt him too bad here. Out of his 6 losses, 5 of them have come via submission. However, Kim loves to stand and knock people out. 6 of his last 7 fight have ended with him KOing the piss out of somebody. Will he add Brown to that list? Brown has never been knocked out....but all good things must come to an end eventually.

Winner: Dong Hyun Kim, KO, Rd 2

Jonathan Solomon: Kim is a judo guy with an undefeated record in MMA. Matt Brown is the TUF Brown, not the WEC Brown. If it was one thing we learned from watching that show, it was don't f$#k with Matt Brown. Brown loves to stand and trade. We don't know if Kim can do the same.

Winner: Matt Brown, Decision

Morgan Marx: Who did Matt Brown annoy to get this match up? Kim (Dong?) is undefeated, bigger and looked like a stud in his UFC debut. Kim's judo skills will allow the Korean fighter to dictate where the match takes place. To his credit, Brown hasn't been knocked out. But unless Kim chooses to work his submission game, this should be another impressive victory for Stun Gun (the Stun Gun?).

Winner: Dong Hyun Kim, TKO, Round 1

Jeremy Lambert: This should be a hell of a stand up battle. Both guys have a lot of power and they like to stand and bang. Everyone feared Matt Brown on TUF but I never got the mystique about him. Kim looked like a monster against Jason Tan throwing the quickest elbows in MMA history. I don't get the Matt Brown love, I don't think he's a great fighter, and I think Kim gives him a beatdown in this fight.

Winner: Kim, TKO, Round 2

Matt McEwen: During his run on TUF, they kept mentioning what a badass Matt Brown was, but if that's true, it hasn't translated to his career inside the cage. He got a decent win over Matt Arroyo at the TUF Finale, but his fights on the show were less than stellar. Kim on the other hand, looked pretty good in pulling out a win in his UFC debut in May, and I think he goes 2-0 here. He looks like a better all around fighter, who might actually have a little bit of upside in the welterweight division.

Winner: Kim, TKO, Round 3

Adam Tool: Of all the preliminary fights I think this one has the best chance of making the broadcast. Both guys excel at hitting their opponent really hard, so that's a good recipe for fireworks. Kim has KO'd four of his last six opponents while Brown has never been finished with strikes. Of course since he's undefeated, Kim has never been finished with anything. Like I said this should be a slugfest, and I think Brown will be the one to go down first.

Winner: Dong Hyun Kim, TKO, round 2

Scott Kuczkowski: This should be a great fight to start the card off with. Brown's record indicates he is somewhat weak in the way of submission defense, but Kim only has a single victory by decision. Assuming these guys stand and bang, I don't know if Kim can knock out Brown. Unfortunately for Brown, I haven't been very impressed by his striking skills and he seems like he runs out of gas if the pace of the fight is pushed too hard. I think Kim can take this fight, but I see it going the distance unless something unexpected happens.

Winner: Kim, Decision, Round 3

Larry Csonka: Brown likes to stand and trade, but Dong Hyun Kim likes to (T)KO people and will use his WACKY JUDO skills to keep Brown off of his game. I liked what I saw of Dong Hyun Kim at UFC 84 and I think that he'll continue his roll here.

Winner: Dong Hyun Kim, STRIKES, RD3

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Thiago Tavares vs. Kurt Pellegrino
Dustin James: What a rough year it has been for Thiago Tavares. After starting his career out 12-0, he has gone 1-2 in the last year. His losses have come at the hands of Tyson Griffin and Matt Wiman. Now it's time for him to get back on that train heading to "Victory Town". His opponent is no slouch by any means. Pellegrino is currently 11-4 as a pro, but has been mediocre in the UFC going just 3-3. Both fighters need a win here, but perhaps Pellegrino needs one more. The memory is still fresh of Nate Diaz catching Pellegrino in that triangle choke back and then flipping off the cameras at UFC Fight Night 13. This fight does have "Thiago Tavares win" written all over it. 10 of Thiago's victories have come via submission, where as 3 of Pellegrino's losses have come via submission. It could end up being a long night for Kurt.

Winner: Thiago Tavares, Submission, Rd 3

Jonathan Solomon: This is another great match-up. Pellegrino gave Nate Diaz a tough fight but was ultimately caught in a choke. He's a black belt in BJJ and will fight Tavarez, a muay-thai fighter who likes to go for submissions. Pellegrino has two wins by way of submission (and a pair of losses by submission, too) so I would expect this fight to be finished before the time limit. Tavares was last knocked out by TUF-alumnus Matt Wiman. This fight will go to the ground and both men will work for the submission.

Winner: Kurt Pellegrino, Submission, Round 3

Morgan Marx: It's a shame that these two talented fighters are paired off in a must-win situation. Tavares hasn't capitalized on his hot UFC start, looking pedestrian against Omigawa before surprisingly falling to Matt Wiman. Pellegrino has come up short in each of his higher profile fights. If the wrestling cancels out, Pellegrino's striking might be a bit more advanced than Tavares'. Pellegrino has to avoid falling into dangerous positions, a mistake he made against Joe Stevenson (multiple times) and Nate Diaz.

Winner: Kurt Pellegrino, Unanimous Decision

Jeremy Lambert: This fight should be awesome. Both guys looked good in their last fight before losing so you know they want to put in a great effort here. This should be a really good grappling contest with some solid striking mixed in. I'm just excited to see what color Pellegrino's hair is this time around and if Tavares decides to change him nickname to "The Joker" for this fight. I think Tavares is a more complete fighter and that will lead him to victory.

Winner: Tavares, Decision

Matt McEwen: I really enjoy watching Tavares fights, but he's a little bit of an up and down fighter. Sometimes he pulls it out, other times he gets his clock cleaned. He's coming off a loss to Matt Wiman, and he's stepping up in competition against Pellegrino, who himself has something to prove coming off his loss to Nate Diaz. If you like ground fighting, this will be a clinic as both these guys have good ground and submission games. While Tavares has looked good against the lower levels of the division, Pellegrino was at one point just a win away from a title shot and is one of the elite grapplers at 155.

Winner: Pellegrino, Decision

Adam Tool: Tavares has had a rough time in his octagon career, suffering his first ever loss to Tyson Griffin and most recently getting knocked out by Matt Wiman. Pellegrino has also had some ups and downs in the UFC, coming up short every time he steps up in competition. This is a must win for both men, and each fighter will be working diligently for a submission. In cases like this where two guys are fairly evenly matched, I usually pick the Brazilian fighter to win. So that's what I'm doing.

Winner: Thiago Tavares, submission, round 2

Scott Kuczkowski: Tavares was thought to be a rising star, but he has folded as of late when he stepped up in competition. Pellegrino has always been a gatekeeper in my mind, but he has fought some of the toughest guys in his division. I think Pellegrino is going to be another step up in competition for Tavares, and I don't think he is going to do well. I see "Batman" walking away with a stoppage victory, probably about mid-fight.

Winner: Pellegrino, TKO, Round 2

Larry Csonka: Pellegrino may be considered a gatekeeper by some, and not that I disagree, but I have been impressed with him in performances against Diaz and Stevenson. Tavares got derailed by Wiman his last time out and is looking for a victory here to get back on track. This could be a tremendous ground battle, one I am looking forward too.

Winner: Pellegrino, DEC

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Joan Carneiro vs. Ryo Chonan
Dustin James: Anytime Ryo Chonan fights, it's hard not to get excited. He's one of the top fighters in MMA, except for when he faces ANOTHER top MMA fighter. These two previously fought back in 2005 for DEEP where Chonan picked up the win due to a cut on Carneiro. Can it happen again? Probably not. My money is on this fight going to a decision.

Winner: Ryo Chonan, Decision

Jonathan Solomon: The man who beat Anderson Silva a/k/a/ Ryo Chonan takes on a BJJ fighter in Carneiro. Chonan defeated Carneiro in the DEEP promotion several years by cut. He's wanted a rematch for years and the UFC gave Carneiro what he wanted. That motivation is what is leading me to pick Carneiro. This should be a good fight with Carneiro pushing the pace.

Winner: Joan Carneiro, Submission, Round 2

Morgan Marx: Chonan has fought tougher competition, is more difficult to finish, and already holds a win over Carneiro. Dropping a fight to the unknown Kevin Burns isn't the way to make your ATT debut.

Winner: Ryo Chonan, Unanimous Decision

Jeremy Lambert: Ryo Chonan has pretty much made his name off the flying scissor heel hook that he beat Anderson Silva with. He holds a win over Carneiro back in 2005 so you know Roan will be looking for redemption in this fight. These guys are essential decision machines so I expect this one to go for the full 15 minutes with Carneiro's superior ground game leading him to victory.

Winner: Carnerio, Decision

Matt McEwen: Here's a couple of guys who could use a win. Carneiro needs to rebound after his shocking loss to Kevin Burns, not only for his career, but for his ego. Getting tapped by a guy several belts lower than you skill level can't feel good, so you know he's going to be motivated big time here. Chonan needs to at least look good after his lackluster UFC debut against Karo Parysian, but this is the guy who tapped out Anderson Silva way back when, so he can be exciting. They did fight once before, and Chonan won when the fight was stopped due to a cut. This time around...

Winner: Caneiro, Submission, Round 1

Adam Tool: Carneiro is an even 2-2 in his octagon career but is still stinging from his submission loss at the hands of Kevin "THE FIRE" Burns at UFC 85. Chonan had a tough draw in his octagon debut when he couldn't get anything going against Karo Parisyan. Once again each fighter is in a must win situation but when in doubt, go with the guy that won the first fight.

Winner: Ryo Chonan, decision

Scott Kuczkowski: I get the feeling this fight is going to be like watching paint dry. Neither Carneiro nor Chonan are the most exciting fighters to watch, and most of their victories have come at the hands of the judges. Neither fighter possesses an edge in striking nor grappling which makes me think this will be a ho-hum stalemate where ever the fight ends up. I can't go by records either, because one fighter is 12-7 (Carneiro) while the other is 14-8 (Chonan). Given Chonan's lackluster performance against Parisyan in his last fight, I'll go with Carneiro for a decision victory.

Winner: Carneiro, Decision, Round 3

Larry Csonka: Rematch time, although not from UFC. Chonan took the first meeting back in DEEP via TKO due to cuts, so they have some history. Carneiro is only 2-3 in his last five fights, but holds a win over Clementi. Chonan is 3-2 in his last five fights, so this is a case of the winner staying to fight another day and the loser possibly leaving town. That could make this fight turn into a wild war, which is good for us.

Winner: Ryo Chonan, DEC

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Mike Patt vs. Tim Boetsch
Dustin James: This could end up being a difficult fight for Mike Patt. He took it on a week's notice due to James Lee pulling out with an arm injury. However, Patt did just defeat Jarred Taylor on August 15...so it's not like he has been taking some time off. But I got some bad news for Patt. His opponent is a ferocious man named Tim Boestch. Remember him? The guy who BODY SLAMMED David Heath on his head at UFC 81? Boetsch ended up losing to Matt Hamill at UFC Fight Night 13 back in April, but c'mon....it's Matt Hamill! If this fight goes to the ground it could be Patt's for the taking. He's pretty good at submissions, however Boestch has never been submitted. This fight could end up slipping under the radar and becoming one of the best fights of the night.

Winner: Tim Boetsch, Decision

Jonathan Solomon: Patt is taking this fight on short notice after James Lee was injured. This is a wrestler (Boetsch) versus submission guy (Patt) and with that said, I have to go with the submission guy. Even though he's new to the UFC, Patt has 11 professional victories. If he does get taken down, he won't act like a fish out of water. We don't know if Boetsch can defend several submission attempts on the ground.

Winner: Michael Patt, Submission, Round 2

Morgan Marx: Do you think Tim Boetsch will be happy to be fighting at sea level again? The tables are turned, as Boetsch is preparing for an unknown UFC newcomer fighting on short notice. The only name that jumps out on Patt's record is that of Jason Brilz, another UFC first timer that scored a TKO over Patt for one of his two career losses. Will Patt pull a Boetsch and score a surprising victory? Probably not…

Winner: Tim Boetsch, TKO, Round 1

Jeremy Lambert: Mike Patt is making his UFC debut against Tim Boetsch, who made his debut earlier this year by delivering a beatdown on David Heath. If Patt has any type of a gas tank, he'll likely win this fight because Boetsch cardio is mediocre at best. Patt has some good submissions and I think he'll catch Boetsch with something when he ends up on his back.

Winner: Patt, Submission, Round 2

Matt McEwen: I'll be honest, I don't know much about Mike Patt, other than he seems to be able to submit low level opponents fairly easily. As for Boetsch, he wants to prove he wasn't a one hit wonder and might actually be a factor in the light heavyweight division. I was in Denver when Boetsch gassed against Matt Hamill, and the guy sitting behind me put it best - "Welcome to altitude." It was painful to watch Boetsch - and a lot of other guys - try to deal with the rare air, but back at sea level should bring the "Barbarian" back. FRONT KICK!

Winner:Beotsch, TKO, Round 2

Adam Tool: One fighter is coming in on very short notice against a more well-known opponent. That was the situation when Tim Boetsch made an impressive debut at UFC 81, but the roles are reversed now with Patt stepping in at the last minute (and only three weeks after his last fight). Patt's got a nice record but unfortunately there aren't any real recognizable names on it. Boetsch has shown some major aggression and big power before, so I expect him to put those skills on display once again.

Winner: Tim Boetsch, TKO, round 1

Scott Kuczkowski: Mike Patt has reportedly won 7 of his last 8 fights while Boetsch is best know as the guy that dumped David Heath on his head. This fight will tell us if Boetsch is the real thing or if he is just Houston Alexander in another form. I'm going to give Boetsch the benefit of the doubt. I think he will be a huge step up in competition for Patt, who has primarily competed in Bodog. I see Boetsch taking this via strikes.

Winner: Boetsch, TKO, Round 1

Larry Csonka: Tim Boetsch was looking good against Matt Hamill, until he got his grill busted up. But it is this fight that showed he had a lot to offer, and if he is IN SHAPE coming into this fight, Patt is in trouble. Patt has a strong record, but this is the big time, and I think Tim Boetsch takes this one easily.

Winner: Tim Boetsch, STRIKES, RD1

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Jason MacDonald vs. Jason Lambert
Dustin James: Didn't Jason MacDonald just fight like yesterday? Anyway, this is a very interesting fight. Lambert is cutting weight for this fight and just happens to be fighting one of the UFC's most exciting fighters in MacDonald. Will the fact that MacDonald just fought at UFC 87 (where he lost to Demian Maia) be a bad thing for him? I'm sure he's in game shape and all but it worries me that he just took Maia to three rounds and wants to fight again less than a month later. MacDonald considers himself a submission expert, yet Lambert hasn't been submitted since 2001. I really don't know who to pick here.......

Winner: Jason Lambert, KO, Rd 2

Jonathan Solomon: MacDonald, or "The Athlete" last fought on August 9th in Minnesota in a losing effort. Back to the grind. He's up against a strong fighter with a solid submission background and power in his hands. If this fight goes to the ground, look for Lambert to wail away in hopes the ref will stop the fight. MacDonald has fought a who's who of the UFC middleweight division including Rich Franklin (loss), Yushin Okami (loss), Chris Leben (win), Joe Doerksen (win) and Demian Maia (loss). MacDonald may have the advantage on the feet and conditioning in case the fight goes the distance.

Winner: Jason Lambert, TKO, Round 2

Morgan Marx: Lambert drops down to 185 to avoid the height and reach disadvantages that hindered him at light heavyweight…only to find himself opposite a 6'3" fighter. MacDonald hasn't displayed a really effective standup game, and was bullied on the ground by more powerful fighters like Yushin Okami. With all the highlight reel KO losses, it's easy to forget that Lambert has really good ground and pound.

Winner: Jason Lambert, TKO, Round 2

Jeremy Lambert: My brother from another mother returns to the Octagon, this time at 185. MacDonald left a good impression on everyone last month at UFC 87 despite a loss against Maia. MacDonald is a really good fighter but he just can't seem to beat the top guys. Despite his last name, I don't think Lambert is a top guy. Lambert hits hard but MacDonald can take a punch. When the fight hits the ground, MacDonald will pull off a submission.

Winner: MacDonald, Submission, Round 3

Matt McEwen: Lambert is making his middleweight debut, and his only real chance here is his strength. That is, whatever strength he maintains from the cut down to 185. MacDonald is a better all around fighter, and stands up to a better beating, but if Lambert is able to overpower him, he might be able to ground out a win. Of course, MacDonald is pretty dangerous on his back, as he nearly submitted BJJ deity Demian Maia. The only other factor that might hurt MacDonald is the short turnaround from the Maia fight.

Winner: MacDonald, Submission, Round 2

Adam Tool: This is certainly a tough fight to pick. MacDonald has only had a month to prepare after his submission loss to Demian Maia at UFC 87. Lambert is on a two fight losing streak but this will be his first time fighting at middleweight. MacDonald will likely be looking to get this one to the ground quickly because I don't think he wants to contend with Lambert's power. It's your classic striker vs. grappler match-up, and in this case I'm taking the grappler.

Winner: Jason MacDonald, submission, round 3

Scott Kuczkowski: "The Punisher" versus "The Athlete". I've always been a fan of Jeremy Lambert, but he unfortunately seems to come up short whenever he steps up in competition or gets on a roll. MacDonald also typically folds when going up against stiff competition and is coming off a loss to Maia where he was choked out. This fight should give both fighters a chance to stand and bang, which it where I think these guys should stay. Both of these guys have great striking, but Lambert has demonstrated that his chin is suspect. MacDonald was stopped by Rich Franklin via strikes, but I don't think Lambert hits like Franklin. I'm going to have to give this fight to MacDonald, but only because I think his striking is a little more refined than Lambert's.

Winner: MacDonald, TKO, Round 3

Larry Csonka: Last month I discussed MacDonald in his loss, and discussed the fact that he is a gatekeeper, and could possibly make the move to WEC. But when injuries happen, you go to the guys you can depend on and apparently MacDonald is one of those guys for the UFC. Lambert is 1-3 in his last four fights, all (T)KO losses and overall he hasn't looked particularly good. MacDonald is 2-2, with losses to Okami and Maia and that is no shame. He looked good last month and I think the gatekeeper will pull one out here and remind everyone why he belongs with the company.

Winner: MacDonald, SUB, RD2

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THE MAIN CARD:
Karo Parisyan vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Dustin James: Speaking of difficult fights to pick. I have made it pretty clear that I'm a huge fan of Yoshiyuki Yoshida's potential. However, he is facing "The master of the decision fight" Karo Parisyan. Karo seems to be a different fighter when he's fighting on PPV, than when he fights for free on Spike TV. His last two losses have come on UFC Fight Night specials, yet on PPV he happens to be 6-1 in the UFC with his only loss coming at the hands of Georges St. Pierre back at UFC 46. Will Karo's experience pay off here? Or will the UFC newcomer Yoshida be able to surprise everybody? Screw it, I'm going out on a limb here......

Winner: Yoshiyuki Yoshida, Decision

Jonathan Solomon: This judo-fest of a fight will be fun if the action is there. I hope this doesn't turn into a slow paced fight with both guys in the clinch for minutes on end trying for a throw or slam. Parisyan claims he has changed his training methods and is in great shape. I doubt Yoshida's mindset was ever a hindrance to his career. I can see this fight going close to a decision and endurance becoming a factor. Parisyan wants to prove he deserves a title shot (someday) but Yoshida is no pushover.

Winner: Yoshiyuki Yoshida, Submission, Round 3

Morgan Marx: Is Karo going to outbox Yoshida? Is he going to have the cardio to outwork Zenko over three rounds? These are big questions surrounding a surprisingly large "favorite." Dana White considers Parisyan a "gatekeeper." Yoshida has a chance to breakthrough the gate and crash the UFC's welterweight top-ten.

Winner: Yoshiyuki Yoshida, Unanimous Decision

Jeremy Lambert: Yoshida has good submissions and wicked ground and pound, Karo has judo throws. Yoshida has suspect takedown defense but he's good at scrambling on the ground and getting back up. Karo is a decision machine and the only way he wins this fight is if he rests on him and then claims he was injured in camp. Everyone wants to see Karo lose because no one likes him and Yoshida is going to officially reduce Karo to gatekeeper status. Karo Who?

Winner: Yoshida, TKO, Round 3

Matt McEwen: I don't know what the issues are that Parisyan has been dealing with over the past 18 months, but he hasn't been the same fighter that built up a legion of fans. After his loss to Thiago Alves, Randy Couture had to almost physically restrain him from going after the ref, and before that he snoozed his way to wins over Chonan and Josh Burkman in disappointing fights. If he doesn't bring his A game, Yoshida is going to put a big win on his record. He got a highlight submission in his UFC debut, and now he could actually get into title discussion with a win here. If Parisyan comes to fight, we could be in for a treat.

Winner: Yoshida, TKO, Round 3

Adam Tool: We've seen numerous match-ups of striker vs. striker, wrestler vs. wrestler, and grappler vs. grappler. This fight is a rarity in that we'll get a chance to see two top-level Judo fighters go at it. The main difference is that Karo likes to throw guys down and lay on top of them for fifteen minutes, while Yoshida likes to throw guys down and pound out a finish. Personal bias may play a factor in my pick, but so be it.

Winner: Yoshiyuki Yoshida, TKO, round 1

Scott Kuczkowski: Can Karo get back to his winning ways? That's the question. I think Yoshida is going to be a very big challenge for Karo, and he doesn't bring his "A" game, he may find him self on the losing end of the fight. I foresee Yoshida keeping this fight standing and using his striking to keep Karo from getting the clinch and using his Judo. Karo will probably have the strength advantage on the ground, but I think Yoshida can out strike him. Plus, Yoshida typically tries to finish, while Karo tends to hold the guy and jockey for more position. This should play a deciding factor. I won't be surprised to see Yoshida find his range and finish Karo.

Winner: Yoshida, TKO, Round 2

Larry Csonka: Karo, what a douche bag. He has talent, but his mouth and lack of string training get in his way at times. Karo gets back on the winning track here with the Karo special (hump and bump) and begins his tease of challenging for the title.

Winner: Parisyan, DEC

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Dan Henderson vs. Rousimar Palhares
Dustin James: Is it just me or is this UFC card packed with fights that are difficult to pick? On one hand you have Rousimar Palhares, a UFC newcomer who is a member of BTT and is considered a submission expert (6 of his 8 victories are via submission). Then on the other hand you have DAN F'N HENDERSON! The man who held PRIDE's light heavyweight AND middleweight titles when the company went under. Hendo owns Palhares in the experience category, as well as the stand-up category. However, Henderson's biggest weakness could be the fact that he's vulnerable for a submission from Palhares. I have to go with Hendo's experience in this fight.

Winner: Dan Henderson, Decision

Jonathan Solomon: It sure does suck that for many UFC fans, their introduction to Dan Henderson were losses (albeit, to Rampage & Anderson Silva). This match-up is not exactly a walk in the park either. Palhares is fine tuned in the submission game with five of his most recent wins coming by way of sub. He may be a Brazilian, but he is not Anderson Silva or a Nogueira. Obviously, Henderson's wrestling is superior. However, he must look out for Palhares who will undoubtedly be looking to grab an arm or a leg or a choke at every turn. Henderson will have to use his power once on the ground to smash Palhares. I can't pick against Hendo here, he's too proven of a fighter to go 0-3 since decking Wanderlei Silva.

Winner: Dan Henderson, TKO, Round 2.

Morgan Marx: Look, I love Palhares' upside. Like many BJJ fans, I'm hoping that Palhares and Maia make real runs at Anderson Silva by submitting their foes. But this is a huge leap in competition for a fighter making his second UFC appearance. Anderson Silva and the Nogueira brothers are the only fighters to have submitted Henderson. Palhares doesn't have the striking of the former, or the size of the latter. Unless Palhares' takedowns are A+ caliber, he's going to have to strike with Hendo. And that's a bad recipe for Toquinho.

Winner: Dan Henderson, KO, Round 3

Jeremy Lambert: This is big fight for Dan Henderson because he can't afford to go 0-3 in the UFC. Palhares has excellent jiu-jitsu and good takedowns but doesn't have much as far as striking. I think Henderson should keep the fight standing and test the striking of Palhares. Going to the ground against him is a risk, standing with the power that Hendo has isn't. If Henderson keeps it up, he'll knock him out. If he takes the fight to the ground, he'll win a decision.

Winner: Henderson, TKO, Round 1

Matt McEwen: Henderson hasn't won since his return to the UFC, but he's looked good in both his fights and is still one of the best fighters in the world. I see a problem though. Anderson Silva exposed a possible weakness in Henderson's submission defense, and Palhares debuted in the UFC with a stupendous submission win. Henderson needs a win here, and knows exactly what he's dealing with though, so I don't expect to see Palhares getting too many sub chances.

Winner: Henderson, Decision

Adam Tool: It's do or die time for Dan Henderson. He's currently on a two fight losing streak courtesy of Rampage Jackson and Anderson Silva. While those losses are nothing to be ashamed of, he certainly can't afford to go 0-3 in his current UFC run. Palhares is arguably one of the best jiu-jitsu guys currently employed by Zuffa. Hendo has had trouble with submissions in the past against Silva and the Nogueira brothers. He's also beaten several notable grapplers like Babalu, Renzo Gracie, and Murilo Bustamante. Dan will probably leave his wrestling skills at home, and focus on landing that big right hand. If it goes to the ground Palhares will be dangerous from all positions. I think Henderson can keep it on the feet long enough to pull out the win.

Winner: Dan Henderson, TKO, round 2

Scott Kuczkowski: To say this is a fight that Henderson needs to win badly is somewhat of an understatement. I don't necessarily feel he will get cut if he loses, but I think he risks falling even more out of the title contention picture. Henderson has to let his hands go in this fight and win in a dominant fashion. His last two losses came at the hands of the division champions, but Henderson can't expect to headline a future PPV without anything less than dominant performance. Palharse for his part merely needs to get this fight to the ground so he can work his BJJ. I think Palhares has a very good chance to win this fight, but I also think he's going to have to take the initiative and not allow Henderson to set the pace. If Palhares dictates where this fight goes, I think he can win. If Henderson starts quickly and dictates the pace, he'll get the win. My money is on Hendo.

Winner: Henderson, Decision, Round 3

Larry Csonka: For some that don't believe it, this is a must win for Dan Henderson. The UFC will not pay someone a ton of money to lose. He is already 0-2 with the UFC since his return, and while his fight with Rampage was close and the other loss was to DA SPIDA, this loss would be devastating. I look for HENDO to go back to throwing hard and stay away from the BJJ of his opponent. LET'S GO HENDO!

Winner: HENDO, STRIKES, RD3

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Nate Marquardt vs. Martin Kampmann
Dustin James: I have heard rumors that the winner of this fight could potentially be Anderson Silva's next vict....I mean, challenger for his UFC middleweight title if he gets past Patrick Cote in October. Kampmann is a huge question mark in the UFC's middleweight division. He was once considered the #1 contender for Rich Franklin's title, yet an injury forced him to sit on the sidelines. Now he is trying to make a comeback and earn another title shot, yet standing in his way is Nate Marquardt. Marquardt SHOULD be 6-1 in the UFC with his only loss coming at the hands of Anderson Silva, yet he screwed himself in his fight against Thales Leites back at UFC 85 when he got points taken off of his score and ended up losing a split decision. Look for Marquardt to try and earn that re-match with Silva here and try to become the first man to defeat Kampmann in the UFC.

Winner: Nate Marquardt, Decision

Jonathan Solomon: Both men have impressive records and could potentially challenge for the Silva Championship, however unlucky they may be. Marquardt lost his last fight due to a pair of illegal strikes. Will that play a role here? I doubt it. Kampmann has a great muay thai game but he has plenty of submission victories on his record. Marquardt is a BJJ black belt and I'm looking forward to seeing some great ground work from both fighters. This fight will go the distance with both men trying to get the upperhand but not being able to get that choke or arm bar locked in. The factor I find most interesting, Marquardt has not won a fight with strikes in over five years. Kampmann's better stand-up will lead to his victory.

Winner: Martin Kampmann, Decision

Morgan Marx: Kampmann has boosted his UFC record by taking advantage of opponents lacking submission defense. Marquardt is too experienced and too well rounded to fall for an arm triangle or flash guillotine. Perhaps Kampmann has a devastating striking game that he hasn't needed in the Octagon. It's more likely that Marquardt is a serious step up in skill level.

Winner: Nathan Marquardt, Unanimous Decision

Jeremy Lambert: I'm really looking forward to this fight even though it could end up very boring. Marquardt has good wrestling and submissions from the top while Kampmann has good striking and submissions from the top. Marquardt's chin is a bit suspect to me so if Kampmann can keep the fight up then I think he can score the KO. I think Marquardt's wrestling and submission defense will be too much for Kampmann though.

Winner: Marquardt, Decision

Matt McEwen: This is the fight that answers the questions about Kampmann. He's got the rust off after his lay off, and now he gets to deal with a top level contender at 185. Marquardt might be in danger of losing his job if he loses here, while Kampmann might be in line for a title shot if he wins. It's a hard fight to call as they seem to match up well, with their ground games canceling each other out, while Kampmann's superior stand up technique has to deal with the more powerful Marquardt. I smell score cards in an exciting three rounder.

Winner: Kampmann, Split Decision

Adam Tool: Yet another fight that's not easy to call. Kampmann looked like he didn't miss a beat when he returned from a 15-month layoff at UFC 85. Marquardt had a much different experience at that show, when two crucial point deductions cost him a win over Thales Leites. Marquardt will have the edge in the submission game but Kampmann is no chump on the ground either. Likewise, Kampmann is the favorite should the fight stay standing but Marquardt can certainly hold his own in the striking as well. This certainly could go either way but for some reason I think the "Hitman" takes this one en route to a middleweight title shot within the next 12 months.

Winner: Martin Kampmann, decision

Scott Kuczkowski: This is a tough fight to pick. Kampmann has only been stopped once and he has had a number of very exciting fights. I don't know that he has faced anyone with the talent that Marquardt possesses, so I guess we'll see what he's got. Kampmann has great submissions, but I think he is going to have to keep this fight standing and out strike Marquardt in order to win. Marquardt didn't look great in his last fight with Leites, so I don't know how this fight will go. I think he will have the advantage if this goes to the ground, but I don't know if it will allow him to dominate. I don't know that Marquardt will be able to finish Kampann, and I think this fight will swing towards Kampmann's favor the longer it stays on the feet.

Winner: Kampmann, Decision, Round 3

Larry Csonka: I like Kampmann a lot, and think he could be a great challenger for Silva. I didn't say win against Silva, I said a great challenger. I have to see a lot more before I say he wins that fight. I think Marquardt will be game, but I cannot see him derailing Kampmann at this time.

Winner: Kampmann, STRIKES, RD2

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Rich Franklin vs. Matt Hamill
Dustin James: Welcome back to the UFC's light heavyweight division, Rich Franklin! Franklin's first opponent in the LHW division is none other than one of the UFC's golden boys Matt Hamill. On paper this is a very fantastic match-up. However, I believe that Franklin's experience should be enough here. Hamill has a lot of potential but he is facing a guy many considered to be one of the best pound-for-pound fighters just a few years ago.

Winner: Rich Franklin, KO, Rd 3

Jonathan Solomon: It will be easier for Hamill to control Franklin's stand-up than it will be for Franklin to control Hamill's wrestling ability. Even if this fight stays standing, Hamill can handle himself. If the fight goes to the ground, Hamill will become a beast and Franklin will be wondering if Anderson Silva is in the cage. Hamill's weakness may be how he responds after eating a big punch/elbow or a knee. If he can withstand those, he should be able to stay in the fight and dish it right back at Franklin.

Winner: Matt Hamill, Decision

Morgan Marx: I'd rather see Franklin against Maia or Cote. What does a win for Franklin really accomplish? And how damaging is a loss? There are interesting fights at 205 for Franklin, including a rematch against Lyoto Machida. This fight holds none of the intrigue. We've seen Franklin outwork fighters of Hamill's ilk before. Unless Hamill has significantly improved his striking technique or his ability to ground an opponent, he's in for a hard night.

Winner: Rich Franklin, TKO, Round 2

Jeremy Lambert: This is a classic striker vs. wrestler fight. Franklin is solid on the ground but he obviously wants to keep things standing. Hamill has good power but he wants to get the fight down and control Franklin. I'm sold on Hamill more than most people but I'm not sold on his gas tank. I think Franklin can tire out Hamill, drag him into the late rounds, and use his experience and cardio to pick up the victory.

Winner: Franklin, TKO, Round 3

Matt McEwen: Franklin has been given that "jack of all trades, master of none" label, but that doesn't do him justice. Yes, he's moving up a weight class here, but it's not like he hasn't been here before. Yes, Hamill is a better wrestler who might have more power, but Franklin's overall stand up game is vastly superior and his submission game is given half the credit that it should. Hamill won't be a pushover, but he is taking a big step up in quality of competition and hasn't been tested against a top level fighter yet. This one is going to be a very, very exciting fight, and I think most of it is going to be on their feet and in the clinch.

Winner: Franklin, Decision

Adam Tool: Welcome back to the light heavyweight division Rich Franklin! For his first fight at 205 lbs. in over three years, Franklin gets a tough match-up in the much stronger Matt Hamill. It'll be interesting to see just how big "Ace" is on Saturday night, but chances are good he'll be giving up at least a few pounds to his opponent. However I'm one of those people that believes skills are more important than weight classes, and Franklin is still one of the best fighters in the UFC. Hamill is good but he's still got a lot to learn. Therefore I expect Franklin to slip back into his old job as a teacher so he can take Hamill to school.

Winner: Rich Franklin, TKO, round 3

Scott Kuczkowski: This fight marks an enormous step up in competition for Hamill, one which I don't think he will be ready for. Rich Franklin is generally considered the #2 middleweight in the world because he is just that good. Though he may not have the size advantage he normally enjoys when he moves up to light heavyweight, I think Franklin will still have the experience and skills to win this fight. Hamill is going to have to out-wrestle and out strike Franklin in order to win and I don't think a mere strength advantage will allow him to dominate. Do I think he will take Rich down? Sure, but I don't think he will break Franklin. I also don't see him finishing him.

Winner: Franklin, TKO, Round 2

Larry Csonka: Matt Hamill makes a large leap up the ladder in this fight. He has faced decent talent thus far, but NO ONE the level of Franklin. For the last 2-years Franklin has looked good against anyone NOT names Silva, so he has the going for him. Hamill SHOULD be undefeated (Sup Bisping) and is constantly improving. Hamill's wrestling should be good enough to keep him out of submission problems, but I am far from sold on his striking game. My first instinct is to pick Hamill here, I just have a feeling, so I will.

Winner: Hamill, DEC

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Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad Evans
Dustin James: Speaking of young up-and-comers who could be in over their head. I love the potential of Rashad Evans, however there is just no way I see Liddell losing this fight. I feel that Liddell's sprawl will be just enough to stop any Evans takedowns, forcing Rashad to stand-up with Chuck....where he will just be over-matched. Look for a Liddell vs. Forrest Griffin fight to go down in either late 2008 or early 2009.

Winner: Chuck Liddell, KO, Rd 2

Jonathan Solomon: I hope The Iceman isn't looking past Rashad to potential fights with Griffin, Silva, Shogun and others. Rashad has got to have a strategy to chop Chuck down just like Jardine did. Can he go toe to toe with Chuck? Probably not, but a smart fighter will adapt. Chuck's takedown defense will once again be put to the test and chances are, he will ace it. I doubt the hamstring issue will play a role in this fight either. Rashad may make it a close fight but when it comes down to it, Chuck is the better all-round fighter right now.

Winner: Chuck Liddell, TKO, Round 2

Morgan Marx: Is this the most lopsided main event featuring an undefeated fighter ever? Evans is a terrible match up for Liddell. From the size disadvantage, to the fact that Evans probably can't take Liddell down, this would be a massive, Serra-over-St-Pierre level upset should Evans win. Short of Liddell suffering from post-injury hangover, I can't make the case for Evans. Will any of my 411 cohorts be brave?

Winner: Chuck Liddell, KO, Round 1

Jeremy Lambert: Everyone should know by now that I'm not picking against Liddell no matter who he is facing so I'm obviously not picking against Liddell when he's facing a tailor made opponent. Evans won't be able to take Chuck down and he doesn't have the power to knockout Chuck. Liddell returns to KO form in the fight and Forrest Griffin better get ready for The Iceman.

Winner: Liddell, TKO, Round 1

Matt McEwen: Yes, Evans is the better wrestler. Yes, his stand up is a lot better than anyone gives him credit for. And yes, Liddell has based his entire career and reputation on knocking the heads off of wrestlers. Evans is good. I'd go so far as to say he's VERY good. He's also tailor made to finish the night on his back, out cold from a big Liddell right hand.

Winner: Liddell, KO, Round 2

Adam Tool: This is a pretty bad match-up for the undefeated Evans. He's an underrated striker, but the last thing he wants to do is try and stand with Chuck. If he tries to take this fight to the ground, Liddell will simply bust out the LEGENDARY SPRAWL~! Neither fighter has much in the way of jiu-jitsu skills (Liddell's only win via submission was almost ten years ago), so I can't see that playing much of a factor. The only real question mark hanging over this fight is Keith Jardine. He beat Chuck, and he trains with Rashad. Should Evans employ a similar strategy then he could pull out the upset, but I think it's far more likely that Evans will be getting his first mark in the ‘L' column.

Winner: Chuck Liddell, TKO, round 1

Scott Kuczkowski: This fight is Chuck's to lose. Chuck has made a career out of beating wrestlers much better than Rashad. In order to win this fight, Rashad is going to have to either out strike Chuck, or take him down and ground and pound him. I'm not certain he will be able to do either. I think Chuck's striking will be better and I don't think Rashad will be able to take Chuck down and hold him there enough to win the fight. There is a chance that Rashad could employ a game plan similar to what Jardine did, but I don't think he has the skills that Jardine does. I see Chuck winning this fight via stoppage.

Winner: Liddell, TKO, Round 2

Larry Csonka: Is Evans overmatched? Likely so. Does Chuck had "A LEGENDARY SPRAWL?" Sure. Did Chuck get his ass handed to him by Keith Jardine, Yeah. Did he just suffer a major injury? Yes. I think Evans has a shot here, more than most. Sure Chuck may return to form and obliterate him, but he is getting older, Evans is young. Chuck is coming off of the injury and Evans, as far as we know is healthy. I look for Evans to chop at Chuck like Jardine did, and IF Evans can get him to the ground, he wins the fight. I will be the brave one, what the hell.

Winner: Evans, DEC

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