Dana White Speaks On Trying To Get Fedor
Posted by on 08.01.2009
"I was f---ing miserable…because we couldn’t make this deal..."
Dana White has made some new comments about the failed negotiations between the UFC and Fedor Emelianenko.
"This is going to happen," White said he told UFC co-owner Lorenzo Fertitta. "It's going to happen today. We're going to make this thing happen."
"I was f---ing miserable, miserable…because we couldn't make this deal. I was so confident we were going to get this done because we were willing to do it. We were willing to make a deal at almost any cost. People from other countries just don't walk in and jump in business with the Fertitta brothers. There has to be full background checks and all kinds of crazy sh-t. It doesn't work that way. It's impossible; it will never happen."
"He got offered a f---ing assload of money. A ton of money, everything he wanted. He can go fight in sambo every f---ing Thursday night if he wants to. He can do everything he wanted to. We showed them nothing but respect. It's insanity to turn down a deal like this. To turn down a deal like this, you don't care about proving you're the best in the world. You don't want to fight the best in the world. You don't care about money. How do you deal with something like that?"
i always said, fedors management is out there to make money and trying to be bigger than they really are... i feel like fedor doesnt really care about competition.. or either he doesnt care about his legacy.. .. either that or hes just SCARED OF BROCK LESNAR!
Posted By: wylun (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 03:11 PM
my mind is blown there are still virgins on here defending fedor.
Fedor may be a good fighter, but he is one fucking idiot. So what if they wont co promote, you can promote the shit out of your company during interviews, the fight itself, etc etc.
An embarrassment is Fedor
Posted By: AG Awesome (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 03:18 PM
Fedor lost the respect of most "real" MMA fans. To be a champion or the best is to want to prove it. Finishing Tim Sylvia and Andrei Arlovski is not your way of proving your the best. I wasn't even al about Fedor/ Brock. How about Fedor/ Mir or Fedor/ Carwin. He truly doesn't want to test himself against the best. So f him. It won't be long before he falls into the top 3 P4P, not the top. Because honestly, the guy has not once fought a top 5 fighter. This was his chance to prove it all and culminate how far MMA has come. If Brock wins his next 4, he should be considered the best heavyweight, at least he's fighting the best.
Posted By: No reason for this not to happ (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 03:24 PM
i dont even care anymore...fuck fedor....fucking russians
Posted By: aaron (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 03:32 PM
Simple, Dana. Regain your manhood by telling Fedor and his management to fuck off, the next time they want to be part of the UFC, he needs to go thru the Ultimate Fighter, just like Kimbo.
Posted By: JA Toro (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 03:44 PM
Okay, didn't he let Chuck go fight in Pride? If so, let Brock go fight in M-1 for a fight.
For someone who's real quick to call someone a pussy, he sure is acting like one.
Posted By: jst (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 03:49 PM
That's really bizarre. I'm used to seeing Dana minimizing Fedor's accomplishments.
I've NEVER seen Dana admit weakness on his own part. Saying that he was miserable and had no idea how to come to terms with Fedor... I'm surprised Dana admitted that Fedor broke Dana, at least in terms of being at a loss on how to sign this guy.
Posted By: Brian Kessler (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 03:53 PM
I'd love to hear Fedor's opinion on the whole matter, but the asshat doesn't speak English.
I think this horse is dead...we'll never see Fedor in the UFC.
Posted By: Ramsey (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 04:14 PM
100% agreed Dana but doesnt Fedor contract run out in October but he has 3 more fights left on the contract, Fedor is simply not willing to face Brock Lesnar. He is offered millions but he says no so he can go beat up scrubs. He hasnt beaten anyone legendary since Nog
Posted By: Ian (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 04:19 PM
Dana is thinking about business of course in these statements.
But..
Fedor is incredibly humble and he is a very religious with faith. Honestly, if Fedor doesn't want to sign, he doesn't want to sign. Me being an avid MMA fan but also a human being I can clearly see given all the allowances UFC offered Fedor just probably doesn't want to be in the UFC. In my opinion it seems like he doesn't want to lose the Fedor image NOW in this moment. I mean just think if he signs with UFC you won't ever see this much hype of him as you would now. On the other hand though the exposure to UFC would greatly help him be known, but does he really feel it would be appropriate to lose him image now? Basically IMHO there would be two different images of Fedor in and after the UFC
Posted By: h4gg4rd (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 04:34 PM
fedor fears lesner
Posted By: brock lesner (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 04:37 PM
he is scared is all
Posted By: mykelbanda (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 04:49 PM
For Fedor to walk away from this means only one thing. He doesn't want to fight Lesnar.
Posted By: guest (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 04:55 PM
fuck Fedor. Lesnar is #1. Fucking M1 Global. Fedor will continue to fight cans and once he is defeated by some nobody, his fat ass will want to kick the shit out of all his stupid "advisors" for letting this one slip away. Bring on Lesnar vs. Carwin/Velasquez
Posted By: JP (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 05:00 PM
As a relatively new follower of MMA it seems to me that Dana White does everything in his power to make the best fights out there and keep the fans happy.He is a very clever business man who treats fans and fighters fairly.Why Fedor would turn such a lucrative deal down is hard to fathom.If he really is the best in the world(and i am impressed by what i have seen of him)he has surely made a very big mistake by not joining by far the biggest and best promotion in the world.It will not look good for his legacy that he turned down a great opportunity to prove he was undoubtedly the best heavyweight ever.He also missed out on the chance to become very rich.Dumb move.
Posted By: Matt (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 05:04 PM
"To turn down a deal like this, you don't care about proving you're the best in the world. You don't want to fight the best in the world. You don't care about money. How do you deal with something like that?"
I'm beginning to agree with some of these other ppl. Fedor fears Brock. Hell I'd fight Brock for that assload of money they offered him and I'm in a wheelchair
Posted By: Guest#7860 (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 05:29 PM
Fedor is a fucking idiot and an embarrassment.
NOBODY can defend his decision.
Posted By: AG Awesome (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 05:49 PM
Fedor is scared of Brock
Posted By: Just Joe (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 06:03 PM
Give the russian leech what ever he wants. In the the end, Dana cunt is the winner when Brock throws Fedors ass over the pond.
Posted By: Zudafedor (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 06:14 PM
it really is ludicrous if you think about. what can m1 global offer towards co-promoting the ufc? it makes no sense to turn the deal down with the kind of exposure and advertising they would get. anyone know how much of an owner fedor really is of m1? 5%? 10%?
Posted By: buddha (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 06:34 PM
What a BUNCH OF TOOLS!!! You for offering, or, "willing to give anything, like a Bitch in Heat" and Fedor and the Fertittas for being Greedy F'n Chickenshits!
Posted By: Dr Death (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 07:08 PM
"i always said, fedors management is out there to make money and trying to be bigger than they really are... i feel like fedor doesnt really care about competition.. or either he doesnt care about his legacy.. .. either that or hes just SCARED OF BROCK LESNAR!"
*****
No, he does care about his legacy. He would lose in the UFC, plain and simple. So, in order to have a reason to not fight in the UFC (and therefore not lose) he makes a demand that he knows will never be met. I'm sorry, his "manager" makes a demand that will never be met. No, it's Fedor, because a real men would step up. AG Awesome nailed it, M-1 would have gotten a ton of free promotion, but nope, Fedor is yellow.
Pretty simple.
Have fun fighting has-beens and guys who never made it or will never make it Fedor. I'm sure some idiot will still claim you're the best even though you never have a real fight.
Posted By: Guest#6476 (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 07:18 PM
Ok. Dana. You want Fedor? Then what you need to do it is let him pick his fights. Can't everyone see that Fedor is ducking the UFC??? How many more times does he have to reject a UFC offer? I hate Lesnar, but he would beat Fedor within 2 rounds...Fedor prove me wrong.
Posted By: Out of Time (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 07:29 PM
How about you watch the Fedor interview, it's all over the internet. He says he honours contracts, he already had his M-1 thing locked before he spoke to Dana hence the whole cross promotion idea, that's not possible so he is going to finish his M-1 deal, why is that such an issue? They can revisit it when he is done with M-1. Why you all jumping on the Lesnar bandwagon after 5 fights? The Min-Soo Kim and Herring fights don't put him in Fedors league neither does beating an ageing Randy Couture, he lost once to Mir and then beat him, that doesn't equate to him suddenly being the be all and end all in the MMA Heavyweight division.
Posted By: Blaze (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 07:49 PM
M-1 is nothing without Fedor, so they're probably terrified of Fedor losing, and would rather continue to be able to point to his record, even if from now on it will be against average fighters. I think Fedor genuinely wants to fight the best (I hope he does at least), but I think he is too trusting and is being exploited and manipulated by his people, who are putting their business interests before those of Fedor and the sport.
Posted By: xXxLenWierzalisxXx (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 08:14 PM
i don't give a shit anymore, it's all about Lesnar/Carwin
Posted By: marty (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 08:27 PM
Fedor management just are idiots. This is Usa. Ufc Is the Best in World what do they want. They can't be co-promoting when they name means shit here. if it wasn't for the Internet Nobody Would know who fedor is.
Posted By: Omar (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 10:14 PM
Quote:"
it really is ludicrous if you think about. what can m1 global offer towards co-promoting the ufc?"
Fedor. Judging from how riled up everybody has gotten over not getting Fedor, that is a nice piece of leverage.
Posted By: Guest#3031 (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 10:38 PM
That's really bizarre. I'm used to seeing Dana minimizing Fedor's accomplishments.
I've NEVER seen Dana admit weakness on his own part. Saying that he was miserable and had no idea how to come to terms with Fedor... I'm surprised Dana admitted that Fedor broke Dana, at least in terms of being at a loss on how to sign this guy.
Posted By: Brian Kessler (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 03:53 PM
Because he believes many fans wants Fedor. To say he tried everything is to absolve himself from blame and backlash from fans. Those fans in turn blame Fedor instead of realizing Fedor is honoring - and yes, this means something to some people - his contract.
When the contract is over, we can see what Fedor really wants.
As an aside, given the large weight advantage Brock has over everybody skilled, he doesn't have to be the best pound for pound fighter to win.
Posted By: Guest#9326 (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 10:43 PM
You dunces don't see the bigger picture. Fedor's management, (not Fedor himself), broke down Dana White. Dana has a tendency to bite off more than he can chew and this really is the first time that he is stalled on anything. He gets what he wants when he wants it.
Not this time.
Brilliant mind games. Legacies mean nothing to the fighters themselves. Fighters should be fighting because they love to fight, not for fame or money. That's what truly ruined the sport.
They got one over Dana. One point Fedor's camp, no points Dana.
Posted By: Lucifer (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 11:51 PM
You dunces don't see the bigger picture. Fedor's management, (not Fedor himself), broke down Dana White. Dana has a tendency to bite off more than he can chew and this really is the first time that he is stalled on anything. He gets what he wants when he wants it.
Not this time.
Brilliant mind games. Legacies mean nothing to the fighters themselves. Fighters should be fighting because they love to fight, not for fame or money. That's what truly ruined the sport.
They got one over Dana. One point Fedor's camp, no points Dana.
Posted By: Lucifer (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 11:51 PM
Wrong Dana gets the point because for the first time He pours so much into a deal to get rejected that ANY fighter would love to have gotten and gets every fan off his back about the bitch in heat and M-1. Look what happen with Cro Cop huge draw in numbers and his loss dropped his draw power pretty harsh if Fedor goes down the ratings would suck and he would be worthless. Right now though it really is M-1 running the show not Fedor or the UFC pretty sad.
Posted By: Daniel (Guest) on August 02, 2009 at 12:21 AM
iv said it befor ill say it again F*CK FEDOR this guy is just trying to milk it and get victors fed to him this guy is no good people should never watch him fight till he enters the UFC and faces top leval competitors thats why he wont sign with the UFC he knows hes gonna get beat
Posted By: Kevin (Guest) on August 02, 2009 at 02:00 AM
What do people mean honoring contracts? Did anyone see Affliction co-promoting with M-1? I don't actually remember anything about that, yet he was under contract for M-1 and fighting for Affliction. Because M-1 doesn't exist. M-1 does not run PPVs or have a roster of fighters. It has Fedor and that is it.
It's obvious that Fedor is using M-1 as an excuse to duck the UFC. He saw what happened to Nog and Cro Cop, these are guys he barely beat who got trashed in the UFC. His career is essentially beating up cans, freak shows, middle weights, Cro Cop, Nog and that steroid freak Barnett. Randleman isn't really a middleweight, he's an LHW, if someone wants to be a stickler. Also he beat up Hunt, I don't know what he counts as for those categories but he blows.
In 5 fights Brock has fought greater comp than Fedor has in his last 10, and certainly in Fedor's first 10 fights as a pro. Fedor knows that Brock has a good chance to beat him in the next fight if he signed, and certain to beat him 2 of the next 3 down the line before his 6 fight contract would expire. Fedor would probably win the first match due to the experience, although it's no sure thing. Fedor may even defend the title a few times, but again not a sure thing. Why risk his record and legacy? He doesn't even care about MMA, he has only 2 training sessions or something per fight, and he likes combat sambo way more. In interviews he's admitted he doesn't care about MMA that much, he has said he doesn't care about his status in MMA at all. I'm personally not sold on him being really humble or anything either, maybe he is but I just haven't seen enough to be sold, the guy doesn't speak english so how would I know? People used to try and claim Anderson Silva was this great humble guy but now everyone seems to think he is an asshole. So what if Fedor's the same thing?
Posted By: Guest#5083 (Guest) on August 02, 2009 at 03:16 AM
You dunces don't see the bigger picture. Fedor's management, (not Fedor himself), broke down Dana White. Dana has a tendency to bite off more than he can chew and this really is the first time that he is stalled on anything. He gets what he wants when he wants it.
Not this time.
Brilliant mind games. Legacies mean nothing to the fighters themselves. Fighters should be fighting because they love to fight, not for fame or money. That's what truly ruined the sport.
They got one over Dana. One point Fedor's camp, no points Dana.
Posted By: Lucifer (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 11:51 PM
This comment is stupid, every fighter fights to prove he is the best, to be remembered as the best and to have a legacy that people look at and go he was the best.
if your just fighting for money then take dana's deal.
If your a honourable fighter like so many people claim fedor is then fight in ufc and fight brock.
MMA was about fighters proving what they do is the best, don't believe me see Royce Gracie for his legacy.
IMHO lucifer you don't see the bigger picture, management types like M-1 are whats ruining MMA.
Posted By: Guest#7578 (Guest) on August 02, 2009 at 06:07 AM
'Okay, didn't he let Chuck go fight in Pride? If so, let Brock go fight in M-1 for a fight.
For someone who's real quick to call someone a pussy, he sure is acting like one.
Posted By: jst (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 03:49 PM'
- Do you have any idea about how the ufc were burned in the Pride co-op? If you did you wouldnt be saying that, go check your history before you make such crazy comments. Dana and the ufc arent the guilty parties here, fedor and his managers are.
Posted By: Mick Sw (Guest) on August 02, 2009 at 06:51 AM
Fedor is a fucking JOKE.
His last fight that was against anyone remotely in their prime was crocop in 2005. He fought Arlovski who lost to a jobber in his last match, he fought Silvia who lost to an old boxer after.
Whatever he's a decent fighter but to consider him the best is a joke now. He can continue to build his legacy by fighting washed up hacks the UFC doesn't want.
Posted By: Kent baker (Guest) on August 02, 2009 at 11:14 AM
i bet none of you guys who are saying that fedor is scared of lesnar are even fighters or have ever been in a fight...fedor can beat lesnar any day..just for all you who say fedor hasnt faught any name opponents that stand a chance then your dumb, hes faught and beaten guys who could whoop lesnar anytime..so that leaves me to ask...even tho its been cancelled for now which one of you kids thinks that fedor shouldnt be fighting josh barnett and would josh barnett stand a chance against lesnar?
Posted By: guest x (Guest) on August 02, 2009 at 12:40 PM
You guys should ust step back from your emotions for one minute and try to understand Fedor's views. He is from a different culture that holds different views from ours. Communism may be an antiquated system to us but you have to realize it just fell 20 years ago and was ingrained into the russian people's brains for centuries. He is part owner of M1. It is in his best interest to have them benefit in any way from his UFC deal, including co-promotion and getting his fellow red devil fighters into the org. He will retire someday and this will be generating the residual income for him to retire off of as well as his team having a sense of job security. This will also bring exponential growth potential to his outside business interests. The fight fan in me wants to see him sign for the purely selfish reason that I want to watch the great match ups that will be availble. At least I admit my selfishness openly and do not hide behind unsubstantiated rightous indignation that he should want to make these fights happen for his own good and legacy. From all reports and interviews I have read of the man he is not concerned with his fighting legacy and does not hold much value in it. He is trying to help many benefit from his success and that does not sound like he is being as selfish as the fanboys crying he is ducking lesner or anyone else. He has fought the best fighters available to him and I have not heard of him hand picking cans, so there is not basis to say he is ducking anyone.
I welcome anyone who cares to respond intelligently to debate this but I will not give any credibility to the man who says he should do it for the fans or for the good of MMA so it does not end up like boxing.
Posted By: Stinkylicious (Guest) on August 02, 2009 at 03:03 PM
Why all the hate on Fedor? Dana needs him more since he opened his mouth and said it was going to happen? Everyone wants to see Fedor and Brock fight! Dana wants to much control over Fedor and Fedor dont need UFC to be a known fighter. You "Fans" at first would bash Brock saying who did he beat and you are the ones calling for the fight to prove his worth. Now when Dana cant get it done because of his cockiness its all Fedor's fault. what a bunch of douchebags and i like Brock.
Posted By: kingike (Guest) on August 02, 2009 at 04:36 PM
"Fedor is a fucking JOKE.
His last fight that was against anyone remotely in their prime was crocop in 2005. He fought Arlovski who lost to a jobber in his last match, he fought Silvia who lost to an old boxer after.
Whatever he's a decent fighter but to consider him the best is a joke now. He can continue to build his legacy by fighting washed up hacks the UFC doesn't want.
Posted By: Kent baker (Guest) on August 02, 2009 at 11:14 AM"
How the F*CK is Rogers a "jobber" when he's undefeated with all of his victories coming by way of knockouts (all but one in the first round)?! Take that sh*t back to the wrestling section.
Posted By: C- (Guest) on August 02, 2009 at 05:28 PM
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Okay, didn't he let Chuck go fight in Pride? If so, let Brock go fight in M-1 for a fight.
For someone who's real quick to call someone a pussy, he sure is acting like one.
Posted By: jst (Guest) on August 01, 2009 at 03:49 PM"
Let Brock fight for M-1? Brock is under contract to fight for The UFC. He makes money for The UFC. If Brock fought in M-1 that's one less time he could fight for The UFC because a fighter needs several months of time in between every fight. So any fight taken by Brock for another company is a fight that is making The UFC's competition richer. You want Dana to have Brock fight to make money for M-1 instead of The UFC? The whole point of hiring Brock Lesnar was to make money! You don't hire a guy and then send him off to make money for your competition instead of your own company. Stop being so dumb! Yes, he let Chuck Liddell fight for Pride but you don't know what Dana got from Pride in return. Pride was a big company capable of offering Dana something equally valuable in return. What is M-1 capable of offering in return? NOTHING!
Posted By: Ole (Guest) on August 02, 2009 at 07:00 PM
"To turn down a deal like this, you don't care about proving you're the best in the world. You don't want to fight the best in the world. You don't care about money. How do you deal with something like that?"
STFU Just because he doesn't bow down to you, and money doesn't mean any of those things. Stop trying to bully, intimidate, and threaten people into working with/for you. No wonder he doesn't want to sign with your pathetic, crybaby self.
Posted By: Volourn (Guest) on August 02, 2009 at 09:16 PM
Wow. Some of the commentators on here are really really out of touch with reality.
Fedor doesn't need a win over Lesnar to be the best in the world, he already is. Fedor doesn't need the UFC and quite frankly the UFC doesn't need Fedor. It'd have been awesome to see him in a UFC Ring, but if it's not meant to be it's not meant to be.
Anyone who thinks his not signing is down to him fearing Lesnar needs to learn about MMA.
Posted By: Vordeo (Guest) on August 02, 2009 at 10:21 PM
No pal, you need to learn about MMA. To be the best, you need to beat the best. Lesnar is the current highlight of MMA, a fight between he and Fedor would possibly be the biggest in the history of MMA. It'd be about proving who actually is the number one. You can sit there and say all day that 'OMGZ FEDOR IS AWESOME NUMBER ONE FOR BEATING PEOPLE THAT AREN'T REALLY THAT GREAT', but he'll never be seen as the true number one again until he steps up and takes on Lesnar.
If anything, it's his management who are terrified, because they realise that a loss to Lesnar completely destroys all the hype around Fedor. See CroCop for a great example, a guy everyone said was amazing and one of the best, then was a laughing stock when he stepped into UFC. Fact of the matter is, UFC is the top MMA promotion and it's all about the best. Nobody should EVER class Fedor as number one if his management or whoever hasn't got the balls to finally sort this deal out. I don't see Lesnar running away from any fight, simple as really.
Posted By: SummerTwilight (Guest) on August 03, 2009 at 05:26 AM
Fedor= The Bill Goldberg of the MMA world, chickenshit streak and scared to fight the best.
Posted By: Stanton75 (Guest) on August 03, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Say what you will about Dana but he offered him everything he possibly could and Fedor said no. Fedor is an idiot or wants to stay the "best fighter in the world" without actually proving it.
Posted By: thejyav (Guest) on August 03, 2009 at 01:10 PM
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