Lyoto Machida Discusses UFC 104 Fight
Posted by on 10.27.2009
"He deserves all my respect as a fighter, but I was superior." - Lyoto Machida
In a new interview with Sherdog, UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Lyoto Machida gives his thoughts on the fight with Mauricio "Shogun" Rua at UFC 104, the controversy surrounding the decision, and what he plans to do next. Machida also reveals that he may have to have surgery on his right hand after injuring it during the fight.
I thought it was a very even and tough fight. I had the opportunity to see the fight again and I thought I won four rounds and Shogun took the last one. Some people say he won the fourth and fifth round, but for sure I won at least the first three rounds. The American commentators were pretty much biased. If you see the fight without audio, you will probably see a different fight.
Shogun was a great opponent and had a nice strategy. He deserves all my respect as a fighter, but I was superior. I had three or four chances to finish the fight, and he never put me in danger. I didn't get (dazed) at any moment of the fight, but I put him in danger three or four times. He kicked my legs a couple of times, but he wouldn't knock me out with that. My leg started to hurt in the fifth round, and I was very upset that I couldn't knock him out as I had planned. I had two chances where I felt him really (dazed), but I lost it and I get really upset when I leave the decision in the judges' hands.
Anyone who has a mouth can talk. I respect his opinion and I'm ready to fight Shogun or any other challenger UFC decides, but I would like to say that this fight was not judged by myself, my father or Anderson Silva, this fight was judged by professionals, so I'm pretty much comfortable with the result.
It's time to celebrate the win and relax from the hard training routine. After that I will check what happened to my hand (it's hurt), if it needs some surgery, then analyze my mistakes in this fight carefully with my family to restart my training routine. No matter who is my next opponent, I'll give some rest to my mind and body and return 100 percent to the training to get ready for my next challenge. If it's Shogun again, I'll study his game and make a different strategy to please the fans with a better fight.
Yeah, after watching the fight on PPV, I thought Machida lost, but I leterally JUST sat down and watched it again, counting up strikes, take-down atempts etc, and Machida is right. He won AT LEAST 3 rounds if not four. Originally, I had Shogun up 4 to 1, but I was wrong. Machida is nott he most visually interesting or exciting fighter, but he did beat Mauricio Rua.
Posted By: DoctorMoneyMD (Guest) on October 27, 2009 at 02:15 PM
Well, although the vast majority of the IMC (internet MMA community) seem to fell that Shogun got unjustfully robbed Machida makes some seriously valid points. He was the only person ever close to finishing the fight. and although you could see a large red mark on his chest. you have no idea how bad Shogun was probably hurting from the repeated Knees to his midsection. so although it was a very close fight Machida won. in not just the 3 people who counds minds (the judges) but also mine. Shogun probably deserves a rematch for the simple fact that he did better then anyone else has against him.
Posted By: Agreed (Guest) on October 27, 2009 at 02:27 PM
It will be Shogun. So get ready Dragon.
Posted By: Paul (Guest) on October 27, 2009 at 02:28 PM
Well stated. He could have pulled a TIMMAH and said "Eff the fans, I'll fight boring if I want as long as I win", but he clearly intends to finish the next go of it.
De Dragohn es de Champhion!
Posted By: David Wise (Guest) on October 27, 2009 at 02:41 PM
He deserves all my respect as a fighter, but I was superior.
What a dick. Hope his hand is ok so the rematch comes quickly.
Posted By: paco smith (Guest) on October 27, 2009 at 02:42 PM
Should he be bragging about supposedly having three or four chances to finish and not being able to get it done?
Posted By: Todd Vote (Registered) on October 27, 2009 at 02:43 PM
Personally Shogun did more damage, landed more for every machida weak combo he landed a heavy body or leg kick. Now personally i think a draw wouldve been more fair since in my opinion neither man truly Won the fight but neither lost the fight
Posted By: Ian (Guest) on October 27, 2009 at 03:09 PM
Macheetah is a peace of shit. He lost and he knows it. 3 or 4 time he coulda finished the fight? What a fucking joke. I hope Rua gives him permenent brain damage with some brutal clinch knees in the rematch and that peace of shit can never fight again. Go and drown yourself in your own piss you fucking wanker.
Posted By: The Last Emperor (Guest) on October 27, 2009 at 03:31 PM
Should he be bragging about supposedly having three or four chances to finish and not being able to get it done?
Posted By: Todd Vote (Registered) on October 27, 2009 at 02:43 PM
I don't think he's bragging, more stating his case much like a lawyer does...
He deserves all my respect as a fighter, but I was superior.
What a dick. Hope his hand is ok so the rematch comes quickly.
Posted By: paco smith (Guest) on October 27, 2009 at 02:42 PM
How does this make him a dick? He is confident he won the fight, and he even gave respect to shogun in that quote.
Posted By: Guest#3363 (Guest) on October 27, 2009 at 03:35 PM
Well of course he's not gonna admit that he lost, he seems like a proud fighter.
With that said, I just saw the fight again and I still have Shogun winning 3 rounds out of 5.
Posted By: Guest#4295 (Guest) on October 27, 2009 at 03:49 PM
People need to get over it. Machida fought his fight. Shogun never had Lyoto in trouble. Machida has a few times he could've finished the fight.
Posted By: RobertMenn (Guest) on October 27, 2009 at 04:24 PM
I agree with everythign he said
Posted By: stronelis (Guest) on October 27, 2009 at 04:48 PM
"The announcers screwed everyone into thinking Shogun won."
Yeah, that makes total sense, considering the fans didn't boo their asses off when your hand was raised.
I wish Tito would have choked your ass out when he had the chance, so your hype train would have died a long time ago. Fight Shogun again, I guarantee you he'll beat your ass the next time and not let Cecil Peoples make another 'oh crap I fell asleep' judgment.
You speak a lot about honor yet you have no spine. Shogun beat you. He chased you down, he countered every counter of yours, and did more damage. He had more octagon control and more strikes thrown; it doesn't matter if they were kicks or punches. You lost, Karate Kid.
Posted By: Nick (Guest) on October 27, 2009 at 04:54 PM
If he's so sure he won the fight now, why didnt he raise he hands or act like he won right after the bell.
Fighter Metric for your superstats!!
http://fightmetric.com/fights/Machida-Shogun.html
also i hate the commentators excuse the fans in the building dont hear them and not sure Dana White could be swayed by them.
Posted By: Guest#4187 (Guest) on October 27, 2009 at 05:07 PM
He may be talking about being superior now, but at the end of that fight he looked like a beaten man. He barely raised his arms at the end of the match, looked dejected prior to the decision, and immensely surprised when he was awarded the fight.
Posted By: Steve (Guest) on October 27, 2009 at 05:09 PM
Shogun did more damage in the last two rounds and won those clearly but he sure as hell didn't do enough to win the fight, let alone finish Machida.
Posted By: Steve (Guest) on October 27, 2009 at 05:34 PM
Lol how does machida know we are bias, he doesnt speak english lol what a idoit
Posted By: Joe Rogan Nigga (Guest) on October 27, 2009 at 06:22 PM
Can someone point me to the " 3 or 4 chances to finish the fight" Machida, must have missed them in the 4 times I've watched the fight. Shogun did more damage in every round, at no time was Lyoto "superior"
Posted By: Guest#0175 (Guest) on October 27, 2009 at 07:27 PM
OK first off fuck the fight metric bs. A man can jab his ass off for all five rounds and win that shit. If he's not doing anything to hurt someone what does it matter. I thought mma people hated boxing scoring anyway. Machida won. He did a good job. Rua came in a damn close second but like the saying goes second is the first loser. I honestly until that night had really never heard of either of them. I have focused most of my attention on lesnar and gsp fights cause they are usually entertaining, not saying some of the other fighters aren't they are just my preference. So I'm not riding anyones jock I just call it how I see it...I ME NO ONE ELSE!!! My opinion. Oh and to the Joe Rogan Nigga not everyone speaks english in the world of mma nor on the internet. Sorry to stop your ignorance.
Lol how does machida know we are bias, he doesnt speak english lol what a idoit
Posted By: Joe Rogan Nigga (Guest) on October 27, 2009 at 06:22 PM
It's supposed to be doesn't even speak english. Guess you don't write english. Idiot...Yeah you spelled that wrong too.
Posted By: X-0816 (Guest) on October 27, 2009 at 08:42 PM
No fighter will admit that he lost a close fight that went to decision. It's human nature to watch things with a bias towards yourself.
Machida needs to keep his confidence. Shogun hurt him worse than any other fighter he's fought in the Octagon. If he wants to win the rematch he needs to regroup and switch his strategy. I do expect Rua to be a bit more aggressive in the rematch.
I don't see what the big deal about all of this is. Even if the judges gave the fight to Shogun there still would've been an immediate rematch regardless.
Posted By: Alex (Guest) on October 28, 2009 at 12:40 AM
Incredibly close fight... I'd score 1 round Machida, 2 rounds Rua, and could easily flip a coin for the other 2- and basically be upset/ happy regardless of who won.
It just turned out that the judges' coins all landed up for Lyoto.
Posted By: cyks (Guest) on October 28, 2009 at 01:17 AM
X-0816: "OK first off fuck the fight metric bs. A man can jab his ass off for all five rounds and win that shit. If he's not doing anything to hurt someone what does it matter"
Fight Metric clearly differentiates between jabs and power shots. Nice try.
Not only that but it was blatantly obvious that Shogun's leg AND body kicks did huge damage (Machida's bruising, reduced movement, limping, gassing, etc.) while Shogun only looked more energetic as the fight wore on.
Machida also spent most of the fight backpedalling. Shogun was in control. Shogun was the aggressor. Shogun was countering Machida's notorious counters. Shogun won.
Fight fans can come out of the woodwork now and consider themselves cerebral viewers by aligning their argument with the Machida result, but it's still wrong. Even by the criteria Cecil Peoples espouses, Shogun would still have won.
Posted By: Ben (Guest) on October 28, 2009 at 01:53 AM
now that i watch da fight over again i can see what he means the commentary is kind of biased but i still think shogun won the fight he did more damage and i didn't see shogun hurt but once and it wasn't even bad he was back in da fight quick
Posted By: Guest#7027 (Guest) on October 28, 2009 at 01:58 AM
at least forrest only runs after the fight.
Posted By: dale (Guest) on October 28, 2009 at 03:04 AM
SERIOUSLY... i've been saying this since the day after the fight.. WATCH THE FIGHT ON MUTE!! dont listen to joe rogan!! i love the dude, but he was very biased towards shoguns kicks and it distracted me alot from even noticing what machida was doing half the time..
machida had a lot of sneaky knees and almost always had a counter left for every kick shogun threw in the 1-3 rounds..
Posted By: wylun (Guest) on October 28, 2009 at 06:08 AM
Not sure I agree with every point, but at least he makes a case for his victory in a erudite, concise matter as opposed to being an arrogant douche.
For all the 'but I was superior' quote comes off poorly, I'll bet that it loses something in the translation.
I scored the fight 48-47 for Shogun, and I wouldn't doubt that there could be a swing of a few points either way on a review of the fight.
In the abscence of a clear #1 contender, I'll have a rematch asap, please...
Posted By: chris.crowing (Registered) on October 28, 2009 at 07:04 AM
Some people here are pathetic. Machida didn't lose...HE WON. It's a fact. Not an opinion, A FACT. Simple as that.
The guy wasn't in danger at any time in the fight, while Shogun was. Machida exploded two or three times like he did on Rashad and Shogun was almost killed when he was backed up into the cage, yet just managed to avoid going down. Shogun did nothing like that, all he did was a few leg and body kicks. Rogan/Goldberg are great commentators, but they were terrible on the night and biased towards Shogun, which is why Machida is right, watch the fight without the commentary.
Machida fought the smarter fight really and Shogun was the one avoiding everything. At no point did he try to explode on Machida, while Machida did on him, yet people boo Machida? Shogun is the most overrated fighter not named Fedor and I believe that'll be proven in the rematch. Machida still looks UNSTOPPABLE in normal time and I cant see anybody defeating him outside of a decision.
Posted By: SummerTwilight7 (Guest) on October 28, 2009 at 07:05 AM
Machida: Your legs, ribs and face respectfully disagree with your ego's recollection of the fight.
Posted By: pattitude (Registered) on October 28, 2009 at 07:38 AM
Sorry, but Machida is talking out his ass. 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th rounds to Shogun.
He said he was never in danger...neither was fucking Shogun jackass. Machida countered an hit some knees...and? Shogun countered him plenty too with some nice jab/kick combos. Shogun controlled the Octagon for far more of the fight and was by far the more aggressive fighter. Machida was awful busy doing little karate poses and feigning striking.
Finally, the damage on Machida's body was clear to see, and he took more punishment than Shogun.
Posted By: dennett316 (Guest) on October 28, 2009 at 08:13 AM
how bout all you bitches stop your whining. Shogun's probably not as upset about it as you guys are. It was obviously a close fight. No one got robbed.
Posted By: Guest#0027 (Guest) on October 28, 2009 at 09:37 AM
i think machida's pee has went to his head. i can see him not saying he lost the fight, but i was superior? Right lyoto.....
Posted By: lol (Guest) on October 28, 2009 at 09:48 AM
Thanks Guest#3363 (Guest). I must have just looked at it wrong.
Posted By: Todd Vote (Registered) on October 28, 2009 at 10:13 AM
Interesting. Like someone said above, though, he looked beaten after the fight and surprised at the decision. He does make some good points, but I feel like he was only close to finishing once. That's one more time than Shogun, but it doesn't magically give him three rounds.
It was a close fight to be sure, but it seems like the majority of journalists and professionals think Rua took it, so that has to mean something. Also, the point about the commentators is condescending and unnecessary. At least Machida seems open to a rematch.
Posted By: Guest#1798 (Guest) on October 28, 2009 at 10:48 AM
This is why UFC sux
Posted By: Kofi Johnson (Guest) on October 28, 2009 at 12:43 PM
How can that peace of shit McDojo Blackbelt motherfucker say what he is saying. He got his ass whooped and someone in vegas gave a backhander to the judges. I hope shogun disregards the ufc rules floors him and then stomps his fucking head in so Macshita dies in the octagon and we have our first death in there. And then I hope Rua pisses all over him as a final humiliation. Then we can hopefully have a vacated title and Shogun vs Adnerson "Not as good as Fedor" Silva. Macshit lost that fight and he knows it. He is nothing but a joke really. Oh and I hope then Rua leg kicks the judges into olivion.
Macshit's karate is nothing but a peace of shit McDojo training, the man runs the entire fight and when someone beats him at his own game by countering and leg kicking the judges suck his dick. WTF is that??? Once again I hope Rua stomps his fucking brains out after Macshit is dropped. Fucking peace of shit wana be fighter. Kalib Starnes is better than that cheating peace of shit.
Posted By: The Last Emperor (Guest) on October 28, 2009 at 01:10 PM
I gotta say I scored it on first viewing for Shogun, but watching it on mute, without Rogan's biased commentating, made me score it for Machida. His striking was cleaner and crisper in rounds 1-3, which won him the fight. Rounds 4-5 were Shogun's and that's why the crowd booed the decision, those rounds were fresh on their minds. So IMO the judges got it spot on and I am happy to admit my initial scoring was wrong. Why is it so difficult for everyone else? Ps. Great fight from Shogun, he deserves immediate rematch!
Posted By: Mig (Guest) on October 28, 2009 at 04:29 PM
How can that peace of shit McDojo Blackbelt motherfucker say what he is saying. He got his ass whooped and someone in vegas gave a backhander to the judges. I hope shogun disregards the ufc rules floors him and then stomps his fucking head in so Macshita dies in the octagon and we have our first death in there. And then I hope Rua pisses all over him as a final humiliation. Then we can hopefully have a vacated title and Shogun vs Adnerson "Not as good as Fedor" Silva. Macshit lost that fight and he knows it. He is nothing but a joke really. Oh and I hope then Rua leg kicks the judges into olivion.
Macshit's karate is nothing but a peace of shit McDojo training, the man runs the entire fight and when someone beats him at his own game by countering and leg kicking the judges suck his dick. WTF is that??? Once again I hope Rua stomps his fucking brains out after Macshit is dropped. Fucking peace of shit wana be fighter. Kalib Starnes is better than that cheating peace of shit.
Posted By: The Last Emperor (Guest) on October 28, 2009 at 01:10 PM
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Seriously?? A fighter wins and you don't like it, so you wish death upon him? You're pathetic.
Posted By: Jordan (Guest) on October 28, 2009 at 04:32 PM
I'd like to see all these people callin' Machida all these names, step out from behind their computers and do it to his face, i'd pay to watch that on ppv...
Posted By: hanoverfist (Guest) on October 28, 2009 at 05:42 PM
Blah Blah Blah. Macshita lost. It's only because Cecil Peoples has a mcdojo black belt just like Macshita that he actually won. Fuck Macshita. What a joke. Kalib Starnes is a better fighter then him.
Posted By: The Last Emperor (Guest) on October 29, 2009 at 01:03 PM
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