411’s UFC 101: Declaration Report 8.08.09
Posted by Larry Csonka on 08.09.2009
Anderson Silva proved why he is called the best as he knocks out former UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Forrest Griffin in the first round, BJ Penn successfully defends the Lightweight Title against Kenny Florian via submission, Ultimate Fighter winner Amir Sadollah gets a rude awakening with a first round KO courtesy of Johny Hendricks and more! Check out 411’s complete UFC 101: Declaration Report for all the details!
411's UFC 101: Declaration Report 8.08.09~!
PRELIMINARY RESULTS:
* Jesse Lennox def. Danillo Villefort via TKO (cut) - Round 3, 3:37
* George Sotiropoulos def. George Roop via submission (kimura) - Round 2, 1:59
* Matthew Riddle def. Dan Cramer via unanimous decision (29-27, 30-26, 30-27)
* Alessio Sakara def. Thales Leites via split decision (29-28, 27-30, 29-28)
* John Howard def. Tamdan McCrory via split decision (29-28, 28-29, 29-28)
-Live from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
-Mike Goldberg and Joe Rogan welcome us to the show.
-Hot chick shave been spotted in the crowd.
LIGHTWEIGHT BOUT - Josh Neer (25-7-1) vs. Kurt Pellgrino (19-4):
ROUND ONE: The official is Dan Miragliotta. And here we go! They touch and a combo by Neer. Pellgrino answers, they dance, grazing high kick by Neer. Pellgrino with a BIG slam off of a guillotine try, in the guard and then half guard. Elbows by Neer from the bottom, and back to full guard. Neer controls well from the bottom, Pellgrino postures up and lands a few hammer fists, but Neer with more elbows. Neer is very active here, good wrist control, locks in an arm bar, Pellgrino slams his way out of it, Neer looks for a heel hook, Pellgrino escapes that. Good right by Pellgrino from the guard, Neer again looks for the arm bar, Pellgrino out and to the half guard. Great right by Pellgrino, Neer pulls guard again, good elbows follow. Pellgrino with some body shots, Neer looks calm as they trade on the ground. Pellgrino with some clean shots to the body and face, and the round ends.
SCORECARD:: Pellgrino 10-9
ROUND TWO: Neer has a small cut on his nose. Round two begins now and jabs by Neer. Combo misses, leg kick lands and buckles Pellgrino. They trade leg kicks, combo by Pellgrino lands. Good right, body shots and shoots, but is stuffed. He keeps the single leg, and now Pellgrino shoves him down and into a half guard. Neer busy again from the bottom, some elbows, into full guard now. Neer again looks for the arm bar, but Pellgrino is able to escape. Neer looks frustrated as Pellgrino is able to stay on top. Good rights by Pellgrino, and great elbows by Neer. Pellgrino stacks him up, back into the guard and Neer is very frustrated. Body shots by Pellgrino, triangle try by Neer, hammer fists by Pellgrino and then a right. Into the half guard, Neer looked for the arm, but Pellgrino gets mount, 50 seconds left and Pellgrino gets his back, and looks for the choke. He has the body locked, Neer defending, and bleeding from the nose. Neer keeps twisting, and the round ends.
SCORECARD:: 20-18 Pellgrino.
ROUND THREE: Round three begins as they dance, body kick by Pellgrino. Another body kick by Pellgrino, Neer goes for a body kick, caught and Pellgrino takes him back to the mat. Pellgrino stacks him, good work by Neer, but Pellgrino still on top. Elbows and hammer fists by Pellgrino, omaplata try by Neer fails. Body shots by Pellgrino, working for side control now and is stuck in half guard. Elbows by Neer, Pellgrino stacks him again, Pellgrino basically bitch slaps Neer and no matter what Neer does, stays on top. Pellgrino keeps looking for side control, Neer won't allow it, but more body shots by Pellgrino. Last minute now, Pellgrino gets mount, tried for the back, but Neer escapes, gets an elbow, stands and to the cage they go. Elbows by Neer again, Pellgrino drops and Neer with more elbows, hard ones, and the round ends with Pellgrino bloodied and rocked.
SCORECARD:: 29-28 Pellgrino.
THE RESULT: Kurt Pellgrino via unanimous decision (30-27 Across The Cards)
-Tito is there live, and getting lots of "love" from the crowd.
MIDDLEWEIGHT BOUT - Ricardo Almeida (10-3) vs. Kendall Grove (12-5):
ROUND ONE: The official is Mario Yamasaki. No touch, they come out and Almeida rushes in, to the cage they go and knees by Almeida. Knees by Grove, Almeida tries a trip, Grove stays up and to the cage they go again. Right by Almeida, more knees by Almeida. They stay locked against the cage, Grove turns him and then they switch again. They separate, center cage and a leg kick by Almeida. Good right by Almeida, backs off Grove, body kick by Grove, caught, to the cage and Grove stays on his feet. Knee by Grove, Grove looks for a guillotine, lets it go, single leg by Almeida, stuffed and they work against the cage. Body lock by Almeida, gets the trip and a takedown. In guard now, elbow by Grove, Almeida stacks him up, backs off and leg kicks and dives back in with a good right. Great elbow by Almeida, short elbows by Grove. Almeida pushes him to the cage, has half guard, gets side control and looks for the back, but they are against the cage. Great knees to the body by Almeida, they stand, to the cage and knees by Grove. Almeida scoops him up and SLAMS him down! Into the half guard, and the round ends.
SCORECARD:: 10-9 Almeida.
ROUND TWO: Round two begins, jabs by Grove. Good right by Almeida, shoots in and takes Grove down again. Guillotine try by Grove, releases it, Grove looks to work off of the cage, gets an arm bar, has it tight, but Almeida escapes! Back to guard by Almeida, Almeida has grove against the cage, works short rights, Grove works off of the cage again, good ground control by Grove, but Almeida stacks him and gets a combo. Body triangle by Grove, elbows follow. Body shots by Almeida, lefts follow and a short elbow. Almeida to half guard, stands, leg kick, drops back in with a left. Almeida with body shots and a combo the head. Side control by Almeida, drops elbows, back to half guard and awesome right elbows by Almeida! Grove manages to get to his feet, they work against the cage, and knees by Grove. They separate, an uppercut and knee by Grove rocks Almeida, Almeida works for a takedown but Grove stops that. Almeida then drags Grove down, takes an elbow and the round ends.
SCORECARD:: 20-18 Almeida.
ROUND THREE: Final round now, leg kick by Almeida, another and a left by Grove. Almeida catches a kick by Grove, and takes him down to the mat. Grove works back to his feet, they work against the cage and some body shots and a knee by Grove. They separate, left hook by Grove and Almeida looks tired. Almeida drops down, Grove on top and good hammer fists and then backs off. Leg kick by Almeida, lands a right as well. Almeida is gassed. Almeida shoots, slowly, fails and to the cage they go. Foot stomps by Grove, a good knee lands and they separate. Almeida shoots and manages the take down once again. He works into the guard, Almeida stands, back in and Grove works off of the cage, elbows from Grove and a right by Almeida. Grove works for an omoplata now, Almeida out and back to the guard. He's not doing much, Grove is busy, and gets an elbow. Almeida stacks him, Grove pushes him off and a knee by Grove as they go to the feet. Almeida shoots, elbows by Grove, Almeida looks to take him down, fails and the round ends.
SCORECARD:: Almeida 29-28.
THE RESULT: Ricardo Almeida via unanimous decision (30-27 Across The Cards)
-Chuck Liddell is in the house.
WELTERWEIGHT BOUT - Johny Hendricks (5-0) vs. Amir Sadollah (2-0):
ROUND ONE: The official is Dan Miragliatta. Round one begins, high kick checked by Hendricks. Push kick by Amir, a knee follows and he ruches Hendricks, but Hendricks ROCKS Amir with an uppercut, he is down, and Hendricks unloads on him and the fight is stopped!
Hendricks hurt his hand.
Amir looked to be getting up as the fight is stopped. Questionable, the crowd hates it.
THE RESULT: Johny Hendricks via RD1 (0:29) TKO
Joe Rogan is with the winner, Johny Hendricks. Hendricks says it is not his call, he is here to fight until the ref stops him, and that is what he did. They watch the finish, and Hendricks says he may have woke him back up.
-BJ Penn is chilling in his locker room.
-Florian spars in his locker room.
LIGHTWEIGHT BOUT - Shane Nelson (13-3) vs. Aaron Riley (27-11-1):
ROUND ONE: The official is Kevin Mulhall. Here we go, they touch and both are lefties. Riley tags Nelson, but he recovers and they circle. Riley trips off of a high kick check, good knee by Nelson, leg kick follows. Body kick by Riley, knees by Nelson, body kick by Riley, he attacks and takes him to the cage. Knees by Riley, short lefts by Riley, nelson escapes from the cage, they circle, high kick by Riley misses, great left hook by Nelson. Combo by Nelson, leg kick caught by Nelson, but Riley gets back to his feet. They clinch, to the cage they go, and then separate. Combo by Nelson, Riley looks for a take down, knee by nelson, they separate. Clinch now, knees by Riley, to the cage they go and he gets some body shots. Knees by Riley, and then misses a high kick. Riley catches a kick by Nelson, but lets him go. Riley then stuff a shot by Nelson, jab by Nelson and they circle. Clinch, to the cage and some knees by Riley as the round ends.
SCORECARD:: Riley 10-9
ROUND TWO: Nelson was tiring at the end of round one, so we'll see what happens here as round two begins. Riley just misses that high kick again. Good knee by Nelson, body kick by Riley, they clinch, and Riley is just muscling him around. Right hook by Riley, they separate, combo by Nelson, and they trade. Body kick by Nelson, they clinch, Nelson slips backwards, and again is looking tired. Shoulder shrugs by Riley, they clinch and go to the cage again. Great knee by Nelson, Riley throws a lazy combo and misses the high kick. Riley gets the high kick, light, but Nelson is rocked a bit. To the cage they go again, knees by Riley who takes Nelson down. Half guard by Riley, short elbows by Riley follow. Shoulder shrugs by Riley, Nelson works him back to guard, but Riley is a blanket right now and is smothering Nelson. They get stood up, Riley misses that high kick once again, Nelson shoots and fails. Leg kick by Nelson, high kick lands for Riley, but it was light. Riley tosses nelson down as the round ends.
SCORECARD:: Riley 20-18.
ROUND THREE: Final round now, body kick and a combo by Riley to kick it off. Nelson gets a body kick, they clinch and trade body shots and push off. Nelson shoots, fails again and just has nothing right now. Good left by Nelson, combo follows and Riley then misses the high kick. Nelson basically falls to the ground, and we have a fight in the crowd. Rogan says it is more competitive than what we are watching. Chuck Liddell is watching it, and the crowd is WILD for the crowd fight. Anyway, Riley lays on top of Nelson and doing what he did last time they were down there. Body shots by Riley, elbows as well. More body shots by Riley, more elbows, and again, more of the same. The round is lasting forever as Riley lays on Nelson and beats on him from the guard. Body shots, head shots, rise and repeat. Fight over.
SCORECARD:: Riley 30-27.
THE RESULT: Aaron Riley via unanimous decision (30-27 Across The Cards)
Dear Shane Nelson,
Drop to 145 and go to the WEC.
Love,
Larry
-Fun Fact: Anderson Silva has not lost since January of 2006.
-Crowd LOVES Forrest.
NON-TITLE LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT BOUT: Anderson Silva (24-4) vs. Forrest Griffin (16-5):
ROUND ONE: The official is Kevin Mulhall. Here we go! They come out, no touch, they dance, Jab and a head kick miss by Griffin. Leg kick misses from Griffin, some jabs by Griffin miss, leg kick lands. Jab by Griffin lands, leg kick caught by Silva, lands a right and Griffin backs off. Superman punch by Griffin misses, leg kick lands. Silva switches stances to right, combo by Griffin lands. Silva in with a good combo, caught Griffin and he is down, but he is back up, Right hook by Silva, high kick checks by Silva, clinch, knees and an uppercut by Silva. Silva calls on Griffin, dances, combo misses by Griffin, Silva DROPS Griffin again! Silva stands over him, and then backs off and Silva shakes hands! Left by Griffin lands, jab as well and Silva DROPS GRIFFIN as he is backing up and that is all. Wow...
Griffin is pissed and runs from the cage to the locker room.
Rogan says that this was an embarrassing KO for Griffin.
THE RESULT: Anderson Silva via RD1 (3:23) KO
Joe Rogan is with Silva. Silva says Forrest is a good guy and a good fighter. He thanks everyone. Rogan asks if he will fight more at Light Heavyweight, or will he go back and fight more at Middleweight. It is a problem, because he is really in between weights, but he will fight anyone, the best. As for the KO, he trained hard, and he trained the strikes.
-One last look at BJ and Ken Flo.
-Mike Goldberg talks to a few actors, I don't care.
-Watching the Silva vs. Forrest fight back, and man, Forrest looked like he was in slow motion as compared to Silva. Crazy.
-BJ looks focused and SUPER SERIAL.
-Fun Fact: BJ Penn has not lost at 155 since January of 2002.
UFC Lightweight Title Bout: B.J. Penn (c) (13-5-1) vs. Kenny Florian (13-3):
ROUND ONE: The official is Dan Miragliotta. And here we go! They come out, circle, high kick checked by Penn. Penn catches a kick, drops Florian to the mat with a right, but Florian is back up, to the cage they go, great elbow by Penn as they separate. Crowd loves Penn. Jab by Florian, they clinch, short uppercuts by Penn. Knees by Florian, they separate, they circle, Penn pressing a bit, high kick checked by Penn again. Looping left by Penn misses, they clinch, knees by Penn against the cage. Penn presses him against the cage, short strikes land. Knees by Florian, and then knees by Penn. They separate, high kick again checked by Penn. Florian shoots, slips and to the cage they go. BJ with great takedown defense, and they separate. Leg kick by Florian, Florian shoots and takes Penn to the cage. Knees by Florian, body shots as well. Body shots by Florian, they separate, circle and Penn with a flying knee and that landed. Florian backs off as the round ends.
SCORECARD:: 10-9 Penn.
ROUND TWO: Round two begins and Florian lands a hard leg kick. Another and Penn misses a right. To the cage they go, Florian looks for the takedown, but again, good defense by Penn. Good knee by Penn, they separate, and Florian's corner is yelling directions, but he doesn't seem to be listening. They clinch, exchange a bit and separate. Florian shoots with the single leg, to the cage as Penn works to stay on his feet. They trade a bit against the cage, and separate. Push kick by Florian, they circle, Florian shoots for the single once again, to the cage, and Penn stays up. Florian keeps pressing him against the cage, trying to wear Penn down and lands a few body shots. Uppercuts and left hook by Penn, and that backs off Florian. Florian misses a kick, good left by Penn. They exchange wildly, leg kick by Florian, and they circle. Leg kick by Florian and the round ends.
SCORECARD:: 19-19.
ROUND THREE: Round three begins and they both connect with jabs. High kick checked by Penn, Florian misses a right and Penn lands a short left. Florian looks for the takedown, to the cage again, and Penn with knees. More knees by Penn, short rights by Florian, drops down for a takedown, but Penn again stops it with a great defense. Lots of body shots by Penn, keeps using his shoulder to press into the ribs of Penn, and Penn with some rights to try and stop that. Crowd not liking this. A right by Penn, they separate, double rights by Penn and Florian has to back away. They circle, little action, a leg kick by Florian, looks for the takedown again, and again to the cage they go. Knee and a right by Penn, Florian gets away, and then Florian in for the takedown, and to the cage they go, yet again. Florian works the shoulder into the ribs of Penn, Penn switches out and lands a good right. They circle, final seconds now and they trade, Florian gets caught trying a superman punch as the round ends.
SCORECARD:: Penn 29-28
ROUND FOUR: Close rounds so far, hard to call. Round four begins and a body shot by Florian. Florian pushes Penn to the cage once again, they trade a bit, Penn chases Florian now and Penn gets a takedown on Florian. Penn in half guard, short elbows by Penn follow and he has control. Penn works for mount, still landing short shots as Florian tries to get out. Great rights by Penn, easily controlling right now. Penn switches, gets mount now, and then gets his back. he looks for the choke, Florian fights with rights, back to mount now and then to the back again. Penn again looks for the choke, hip kicks by Penn, locks in the choke and FLORIAN TAPS!
THE RESULT: BJ Penn via RD4 (3:54) Submission
Joe Rogan is with BJ Penn. Penn says when he woke up this morning, and doubted why he was doing this. But this is his dream, and he loves the fans. He pimps his website and walks away.
-Kenny Florian walks out disappointed.
-I was looking for upsets tonight, but what we got were two champions proving why they are champions in great performances.
-And just as they start to air George Sotiropoulos vs. George Roop from the prelims, my feed cuts out. Thanks Time Warner.
-Thanks for reading, and I'll see you tomorrow night for WEC 42.
The UFC should wish Forrest Griffin the best in his future endeavors. What a joke.
Posted By: Guest#3781 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 12:56 AM
That KO was RIDICULOUS. Anderson Silva is SICK
Posted By: Anonguy (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 01:04 AM
If he aint at the press conference after this shitty ppv he thru the fight.
Posted By: scottyieoittie (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 01:05 AM
I really enjoyed the PPV. I wanted Griffin to win, but Silva showed why he is the best P4P fighter in the world. Yet some idiots have him ranked #4 and GSP #1?? Really? Silva just dismantled Griffin with a glancing blow yet GSP just lays on people and has a hard time finishing people in his weight class and can only seem to finish lightweights. Hopefully the GSP nuthuggers will realize who the man is on the P4P list now.
Can anyone say Silva vs. Machida?? Now that is a fight I want to see.
PS Anybody else notice that whenever they GSP outside of the ring, he is never with a woman?? Just saying...
Posted By: Guest#9814 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 01:06 AM
I'm sick of watching Silva wait for the other guy to bring some offense, then taunting them to throw when they're the ONLY ONES DOING ANYTHING.
Silva's a great counterpuncher, but that doesn't make for an exciting fight.
Posted By: Rod Oracheski (Registered) on August 09, 2009 at 01:11 AM
wow, I love Forrest, but he was schooled bad. I was embarrassed for him. Silva would beat him down then help him back up and shake hands and beat him down again. So polite yet mocking at the same time. Silva didn't even have his hands up for the last minute or more of the fight, just dodging until finally popping him a good one like he was a fly.
I've never seen such a one sided fight since I picked a fight with that high school kid in the fifth grade.
Posted By: Jeremy S (Registered) on August 09, 2009 at 01:14 AM
too bad your ppv timed out because George Sotiropoulos vs. George Roop has my vote for fight of the night.
Posted By: hum (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 01:16 AM
I knew that the Ultimate Fighters guys couldn't stand up and become the guy tonight.
On another note, Silva is the best but he needs to show some respect for the fighters that he faces. In the streets, that is the way you're supposed to fight, but he is getting paid money to fight and needs to show some class. I loved the antics at first, but then I realized that I would've sucker punched the hell out of dude for that performance (That's why I'm not a fighter lol). Griffin needs to re-evaluate his fighting style but I think Opie will bounce back. Silva vs. Henderson will happen before Silva vs. St. Pierre. Either way , bye-bye Georges.
KenFlo gets all the respect in the world for the fight tonight and has shown that he is a top lightweight. I thought BJ was gonna destroy him in the 2nd round but he is one tough mofo and he got one more fan tonight.
BJ seems like he isn't motivated anymore and if he isn't, I think he needs to move on movies or something else.
Posted By: PICKnPOP (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 01:19 AM
I've never seen such a one sided fight since I picked a fight with that high school kid in the fifth grade.
Posted By: Jeremy S (Registered) on August 09, 2009 at 01:14 AM
Damn! So, you got beat up that bad?
Posted By: Official Manhugger (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 01:22 AM
GSp would Kill Silva!!!!!
Posted By: Craig (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 01:24 AM
Yeah, I heard George Sotiropoulos vs. George Roop was good stuff, and that Sotiropoulos was smooth as hell on the ground. I hate that I missed it as well.
Thanks for reading and commenting guys, much appreciated. Make sure you come back tomorrow night for WEC 42 coverage.
Posted By: The King of 411~! (Registered) on August 09, 2009 at 01:28 AM
PS Anybody else notice that whenever they GSP outside of the ring, he is never with a woman?? Just saying...
Posted By: Guest#9814 (Guest)
Congrats, you're the douche bag of the night winner.
Posted By: Guest#8703 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 01:29 AM
I've got an idea for Dana: Anderson Silva Vs. The World. It's really simple, you just get all the fighters and put them in the cage with him.
Dumb idea? Yes. But I'd pay good money to see Anderson beat down the entire UFC roster like it's a Kung-Fu movie.
Posted By: Run Forrest Run! (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 01:29 AM
shitty PPV until the main events. Always been a Silva fan and tonight he made a very good fighter look bad. I can't believe Forrest just ran off afterwards. Silva is an excellent combatant. I called the Penn fight. Itwas decent and the way BJ slipped that rear naked in was too cool. KO of the night - Silva, submission of the night - Penn.
Posted By: Fridge Largemeats (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 01:31 AM
I really enjoyed the PPV. I wanted Griffin to win, but Silva showed why he is the best P4P fighter in the world. Yet some idiots have him ranked #4 and GSP #1?? Really? Silva just dismantled Griffin with a glancing blow yet GSP just lays on people and has a hard time finishing people in his weight class and can only seem to finish lightweights. Hopefully the GSP nuthuggers will realize who the man is on the P4P list now.
Can anyone say Silva vs. Machida?? Now that is a fight I want to see.
PS Anybody else notice that whenever they GSP outside of the ring, he is never with a woman?? Just saying...
Posted By: Guest#9814 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 01:06 AM
When have you seen any UFC fighter with a woman outside of the octagon at a UFC event? Generally for these things they just show up and that's it, it's not something you usually bring your wife to or anything.
I've seen pictures of GSP surrounded by women. Usually asian women, he has yellow fever and he has it hard. There are some pics of him getting one girl drunk, and I suspect most of us know what happened afterwards. Some of my friends know him personally and everyone says that he is good with women.
As for P4P, that's always subjective, it doesn't exist. It's completely imaginary. If GSP was 6'2 220 lbs or whatever Silva cuts from (he was only an inch shorter than Forrest and actually had a 1/2" reach advantage, and Forrest is probably the biggest LHW) who is to say he couldn't tale Silva down and smother him? He beat Leites with a pulled groin, ever had that? I am surprised he could even finish the fight. That's not as bad as a rib injury, but it's the next one on the line probably. Toe fracture is really bad too because usually you can't stand and it hurts a lot...it's not even that it hurts it's just your body won't let you stand even if you want to.
Silva is damn good but he's Fedor's size, and just cuts down. That's why P4P is so stupid, you can't actually re-size everyone. Fedor's probably #1, GSP is definitely up there, Silva is up there. But you can never prove it because the argument is so childish and dumb, grow up. People can rank those 3 in any way they want, and they're not "stupid" for that.
You just hate GSP for some reason. Maybe you're an asian guy and you're mad he took your womens, I don't know. He's a good guy though. He also, like Silva, tends to beat up people smaller than him, that's why for P4P usually you select a smaller guy that performs well against bigger guys. Maybe a BJ Penn, except he lost too much at WW and needs to have a run at LW, which he's starting now. He did decision Machida though at HW, so maybe he should be mentioned.
Posted By: Serp (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 01:32 AM
What we learned tonight:
If BJ Penn actually trains and stays in his weight class he's still one of the best fighters in the world
Anderson Silva is still one of the best P4P fighters in the world. Forrest is no can and Silva made him look like a joke.
Posted By: Flying Dutchman (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 01:32 AM
Wow Silva beat a guy who gets knocked out in about every second fight he has. Hendos gonna fuck this dancing fool up.
Posted By: dickface billy (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 01:33 AM
So are there still 3 pound-for-pound fighters better than Silva?
That's what I thought!
Posted By: Brad (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 01:34 AM
"I've never seen such a one sided fight since I picked a fight with that high school kid in the fifth grade.
Posted By: Jeremy S (Registered) on August 09, 2009 at 01:14 AM
Damn! So, you got beat up that bad?" -official manhugger
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Probably worse b/c there was no ref to pull him off once I fell down. But yea, when you are 12, probably not always a good idea to pick a fight with large 17 year olds. No matter how mad you are at them.
Posted By: Jeremy S (Registered) on August 09, 2009 at 01:59 AM
I hope that ends all the nonsense people were spewing about The Spider after the last two title defenses.
Simply put, it's the challenger's job to show up and beat you for the belt. You show up to survive, Anderson Silva outpoints you. You show up to fight, Anderson Silva dismantles you.
"This is a different kind of striker."
Joe Rogan
Posted By: Tactix Millington (Registered) on August 09, 2009 at 02:22 AM
"Griffin is pissed and runs from the cage to the locker room."
Has he been broken?
"The UFC should wish Forrest Griffin the best in his future endeavors. What a joke."
I guess you can do better against Silva? Easy to say crap about others when you're behind a computer. You're the joke
Posted By: Guest#7679 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 02:25 AM
Looks like I picked every fight wrong....
I'll take my lumps.
Posted By: I know (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 02:31 AM
Silva may not, in fact, be human. He saw every punch coming, and dodged it. He knew where Forrest's chin was going to be, and put his fist there. I feel bad for Forrest, but fuck...Silva is the best I've ever seen, and he makes it look easy. I really wanna see Anderson fight Machida now. They have the same hit/don't get hit style. Penn was amazing, Silva was flat inhuman. The rest of the card...meh. Dan Miragliotta needs to be gone next time though. He stopped the Hendricks fight way too soon.
Posted By: Mario Yamasaki (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 02:37 AM
PS Anybody else notice that whenever they GSP outside of the ring, he is never with a woman?? Just saying...
Posted By: Guest#9814 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 01:06 AM
Ummm...he was sitting right next to a hot blonde. You cruisin, or just blind? Just saying...
Posted By: C'Mon, dude....really? (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 02:40 AM
p4p should mean that you can beat ANYONE in ANY weight class. not all this, if this guy weighed this and that one weighed that. lets seen silva or gsp get in there with lesnar and figure out this p4p stuff since none will lose in their weight class.
Posted By: cbizzle (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 02:54 AM
Can someone please tell me why Forrest Griffin is revered so much by the fans? I seriously just want to know. The guy is from Ohio but the fans in Philly and even the bar where I was in Maryland gave him a roaring ovation.
The guy got embarrassed tonight and people are saying the fight was fixed. He was too ashamed to shake the guys hand and all other types of b.s.
Posted By: Guest#3769 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 03:04 AM
silva shouldnt be allowed to compete anymore. no one is on his level. NO ONE.
Posted By: rey (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 03:13 AM
This PPV was brutal. The only interesting fights were the main events and they were brutal in their own way. I honestly felt bad for Forrest. That was a brutal way to lose a fight. We watched it back twice to figure out just WTF happened and in the end we were all satisfied that it was legit and that Silva just dismantled one of the best strikers in the LHW division. Then the Penn/Florian fight was just brutal in the normal sense of the word in that K-Flo took a lot of brutal strikes before being brutally submitted. That was one of the tights RNCs I've ever seen and K-Flo held on for a long time before tapping. Dude was purple. Unfortunately the other fights (except for the fighting Georges) were brutally boring.
Posted By: King Durin (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 03:37 AM
Run Forrest Run!!!
Posted By: Funkmaster Suplex (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 03:39 AM
let the hate for silva begin
Posted By: Guest#4712 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 03:40 AM
sorry but I maybe the only one who doesn't see a Silva/Machida fight being a very entertaining one. They're both very careful fighters and I'm sure a lot of people wouldn't find it entertaining. As nether of them are the aggressive type they tend to sit back and wait for the opponent to make a mistake.
Posted By: ummm no (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 04:07 AM
UFC is a joke, a big joke.
I would have KOed Griffin too yesterday. Anybody can step in there, anybody...
Posted By: mik (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 04:14 AM
WHERE'S THE SILVA HATERS NOW HEY? That guy is POUND FOR POUND the best fighter on the planet and proved it again. Going to doubt him now? This guy is a machine!
Posted By: SummerTwilight (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 04:53 AM
"p4p should mean that you can beat ANYONE in ANY weight class. not all this, if this guy weighed this and that one weighed that. lets seen silva or gsp get in there with lesnar and figure out this p4p stuff since none will lose in their weight class."
I would bet Silva would dismantle Brock like Gracie did to all those freaks in the early UFC days.
Posted By: seaneb14 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 05:28 AM
"As for P4P, that's always subjective, it doesn't exist. It's completely imaginary. If GSP was 6'2 220 lbs or whatever Silva cuts from (he was only an inch shorter than Forrest and actually had a 1/2" reach advantage, and Forrest is probably the biggest LHW) who is to say he couldn't tale Silva down and smother him? He beat Leites with a pulled groin, ever had that? I am surprised he could even finish the fight. That's not as bad as a rib injury, but it's the next one on the line probably. Toe fracture is really bad too because usually you can't stand and it hurts a lot...it's not even that it hurts it's just your body won't let you stand even if you want to."
Silva is p4p because of his victories. How many people have you seen make Forrest Griffin look like that?
Posted By: Guest#3006 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 06:06 AM
FEDOR ? BROCK ? Machida ? GSP ? Damn STRAIGHT Those FOUR Guys are BETTER THAN THE DANCING FOOL who MOCKS His Opponents and taunts them by oh WAIT ? SHAKING HANDS DURING A FUCKIN FIGHT ?
Posted By: Anderson Silva The Dancing Jok (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 06:55 AM
Anderson Silva and Forrest Griffin are two of my favorite fighters. In this fight, I was going for Forrest, but almost by default just because he was the underdog. The whole time though, I knew that Silva was the better fighter and should rightfully so be the favorite.
That being said, from the moment this fight was signed, I knew Silva was the better fighter and would would win. I knew his past few fights were "boring" to those that just expect nothing but brawling, but in reality were great technical domination. Anderson Silva is on another level from any other fighter in any weight class period. This fight all along was just meant for the fair-weather fans that think if its not a brawl the whole way through with someone getting KOed it was a bad fight.
Honestly, this fight delivered what was meant to. Silva had to stand up and fight more than in his past few, and he showed he's the best in that aspect as well. Forrest came out and made it a brawl which is what was expected all along, but he was out of his league from go. I don't blame him for running out like he did, I thought he never should have taken this fight to begin with because Silva is just out of this world scary good. Forrest should be commended for taking this fight, but he should also go back to his managers or handlers or whoever talked him into taking this fight.
At LHW, there is the possible grudge match with an aged Wanderlei, but the end result is pretty much already obvious at this point. The winner of Evans/Jackson gets a shot at Machida, meaning he'd probably have to fight the loser of that to get a shot at the winner of that title fight, which would be much farther off than what the UFC would like I'm sure.
Really all that's left for Silva is a catch-weight fight with GSP. Its out there. Hell, after GSP's last dominating win he had to answer the questions of it. Realistically, that's probably the only sort of contest for both fighters. Ya, neither one is a Brock, but to true fans of MMA, that is a dream fight, and would be sure to pull in a huge number. Really, from the point both fighters are at right now, that's the only fight that makes sense. Ya, Hendo is supposed to get another crack at Silva now, but after this showing, does anyone really see a point to it??? Its time for both to man up, Zuffa to put the money there, and make GSP/Silva happen, and find out who really is the best pound for pound fighter right now. Fact is, and I hate GSP, but really those two are in the top 3 at worst of the best pound for pound, if not flat out 1,2. Let's make it happen Dana!!!
Posted By: Butters4Prez (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 08:05 AM
Some other thoughts, did anyone else think that the Sadollah/Hendricks fight was stopped way too soon??? Ya, Sadollah should have gone flat, but Hendricks "undefended" shots didn't seem to land at all and Amir was clearly coming back up. Idk, maybe its just me.
Posted By: Butters4Prez (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 08:08 AM
Come on, what did we REALLY except to see in the Anderson and Forrest fight? Anderson's standup is killer...and we all know Forrest can be knocked out or TKO'd...Jardine, Evans...I like Forrest but he is not a great fighter...he draws fans. Forrest was tailor made for Anderson Silva. Send Forrest packing? Why? Losing to the best in the world.
Posted By: Out of Time (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 08:26 AM
So nobody else saw Forrest holding up his hands in a Roberto Duran-style "No mas!" gesture after the knockdown? I'm telling you, something went wrong and he knew it.
Posted By: Lansdellicious (Registered) on August 09, 2009 at 09:53 AM
All You Forest Griffen Fans That Have Been Talking Crap These Past Couple Of Weeks Saying That That Meat Head Stood A Chance With Silva Should Be Eating Your Words...And Like I Said Before You Know Nothing About MMA
Posted By: Paul (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 09:54 AM
All you guys with your pound-for-pound nonsense, it's funny that you conveniently leave out Miguel Torres. The dude is crazy well-rounded, he always has exciting fights, and he hasn't lost in SIX YEARS. Also, his 36-1 record is better than even the mighty Fedor's 30-1. So, my questions is this: why no love for the Mullet?
Posted By: Wyatt Beougher (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 10:00 AM
"p4p should mean that you can beat ANYONE in ANY weight class. not all this, if this guy weighed this and that one weighed that. lets seen silva or gsp get in there with lesnar and figure out this p4p stuff since none will lose in their weight class"
you have absolutely no idea...
I enjoyed the whole show,Silva and Penn were amazing. Now Im in my MMA-watching mood and PUMPED UP about todays WEC 42.
Posted By: SoulBrotherNo1 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 10:39 AM
The Silva fight ended exactly as I predicted it would.
Forrest Griffin regardless of what his fans think, is a can. The guy is slow, sloppy, and has a chin that gives glass a bad name. The guy earned a reputation by having a slugfest with another can (Bonner), beating a very broken down Shogun (if they fought now Rua would crush him), and being smarter than Rampage. While I tip my hat to Forrest for winning the light heavy belt, it was a fluke and he will never come close to holding it again.
To those asking for a Machida vs. Silva showdown, we are not going to get that fight. Those two are very tight and won't fight each other.
Posted By: Optimus Crimelord (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 10:47 AM
Anyone else pissed Machida and Silva will never fight eachother?
Posted By: Jordan (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 10:54 AM
Am I the only person who saw that fight between Griffin and Silva for what it was. That wasn't a KO, it was a flop. The fight was fixed. Thats why Forest took off running afterwards. He couldn't deal with was he had just done. I hope this isn't what mma is coming too.
Posted By: POed (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 10:56 AM
silva must stay at 205 and fight machida that is the big fight not gsp
Posted By: Guest#7981 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 11:48 AM
Silva is p4p because of his victories. How many people have you seen make Forrest Griffin look like that?
Posted By: Guest#3006 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 06:06 AM
Kieth Jardine for one...
Posted By: Cody (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 12:03 PM
So how much money did Forest get paid to throw the fight?
Posted By: Cody (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 12:03 PM
get real,man,it wasnt fixed,Silva is THAT good. If you rush forward with a broken jaw after knocked down twice,you have a big chance of knocked the ufck out. That shot was timed perfectly,Silva is that good.
Posted By: Guest#9005 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 12:09 PM
wow, look at all of the sudden bj penn and anderson silva fans in philly last night, and some on the comment boards. fuckin bandwagon nuthuggers.
Posted By: Justin. (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 12:13 PM
Forrest Griffin took a dive. Go back and look at it. It was a shady knockout.
Posted By: Picone (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 12:40 PM
So the UFC would risk its gaming license and the millions and millions its about to make it "fix" a fight? Give me a break, but let the conspiracy theorist discuss if it helps them sleep at night.
Posted By: MMAFan432 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 12:43 PM
I actually enjoyed this ppv because people have been running their mouths and Penn and Silva for months and last night they shut up a lot of people.
For months I heard oh Penns ducking Florian which had me laughing hard that anyone thought he had a chance against BJ Penn when it was obvious Penn is the better fighter and tonight just proved it. One loss to St. Pierre and everyone was saying he was done. What a joke.
Silva yeah he had a couple of snoozers in his last 2 title fights but he went out and just humiliated Griffin in just brutal fashion. Its going to take someone to be on their A game to beat Silva and that may just be St. Pierre.
Posted By: Guest#5314 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Am I the only person who saw that fight between Griffin and Silva for what it was. That wasn't a KO, it was a flop. The fight was fixed. Thats why Forest took off running afterwards. He couldn't deal with was he had just done. I hope this isn't what mma is coming too.
Posted By: POed (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 10:56 AM
This is disrespectful to the man as well as the sport. There was not one reason for him to throw a fight. It has also been reported that Forrest's jaw was dislocated, as well as he lost hearing in one ear, and that is why he ran to the back.
There is just no reason to spew such vileness when you have no idea what you are talking about.
Remember when everyone was talking smack about Jamie Varner the same way? Have you seen him fight since? No, because he was seriously injured.
People need to get off their high horses and wait until the professional medical assesments come out before jumping to conclusions.
Posted By: Stinkylicious (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 12:51 PM
I am not a fan of Silva b/c he only seems to try when he is going against someone good. I guess tht makes sense. I wish we could see Machida vs. Silva but proably won't happen.
Posted By: enlightenedone9 (Registered) on August 09, 2009 at 01:01 PM
UFC is a joke, a big joke.
I would have KOed Griffin too yesterday. Anybody can step in there, anybody...
Posted By: mik (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 04:14 AM
Then do it you little peon. You are the joke.
Posted By: JHB (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 01:14 PM
Lansdellicious is on the money. Griffin had a moment of clarity after the third knockdown and put his hand up - he was outclassed, he was hurt, he knew he'd had enough.
These people (on other boards as well) are insane with the "Silva taunting" stuff. He was putting his hands down and relying on his head movement to sucker Forrest in; he was in such a zone he was timing everything Forrest did.
That second knockdown may have been the most amazing thing I've seen in MMA in years: Silva lands a blow, moves away from one punch, ducks another, then lands an accurate strike to Griffin's dome to put him down. That was reminiscent of Roy Jones in HIS prime: hands at his side, ducking punches, and landing piston-like power shots from anywhere he wanted to throw them.
How is Silva NOT the best pound-for-pound right now? People crapped on him for the two previous fights HE WON! Which is two title defenses more than the last 2 light-heavyweight champions pre-Machida.
Don't give Forrest a hard time. If you fell down a flight of stairs, broke your face and were deaf in one ear, you'd run to the doctor too.
He's tough and he's gracious, Griffin has plenty of time to congratulate The Spider.
Posted By: Tactix Millington (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 02:49 PM
p4p should mean that you can beat ANYONE in ANY weight class. not all this, if this guy weighed this and that one weighed that. lets seen silva or gsp get in there with lesnar and figure out this p4p stuff since none will lose in their weight class.
Posted By: cbizzle (Guest)
That's a really stupid idea.
Posted By: Guest#9158 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 02:53 PM
? OK, to the idiot that said the fight was a fix...
Usually the person to throw a fight is the one expected to win. If you are already expected to lose, then throwing it doesn't really change anything. lol
Posted By: Jeremy S (Registered) on August 09, 2009 at 03:13 PM
I see talk about the fight being fixed..I dont believe that at all.. Forrest was out classed.He beat himself before the fight even started. The fight should not have been ruled a KO though cause that punch did not knock Forrest out..If anything he tapped. Forrest is a weird guy, after his loss with Jarine he cried like a school girl...Him running out of the cage doesnt suprise me at all..
Posted By: Out of Time (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 03:35 PM
So the UFC would risk its gaming license and the millions and millions its about to make it "fix" a fight? Give me a break, but let the conspiracy theorist discuss if it helps them sleep at night.
Posted By: MMAFan432 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 12:43 PM
This is EXACTLY why they would fix a fight... excuse me, asshole...
With millions of dollars in tickets, PPV's, and merchandise... You think the fix wouldn't be in?
Anytime there is betting, there is the chance for a fix... excuse me again, asshole...
Read some history about boxing, wrestling, football, baseball, basketball etc. They have all been fixed. UFC is NO different.
Watch that knockout - it was very very questionable given the way Griffin ran back to the back.
Dana White is Vince McMahon in a different body, another PT Barnum, if you will.
Posted By: Guest#6860 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 04:12 PM
SILVA WHIPPED THAT ASS EFFORTLESSLY!
Posted By: Instigator (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 04:29 PM
So the UFC would risk its gaming license and the millions and millions its about to make it "fix" a fight? Give me a break, but let the conspiracy theorist discuss if it helps them sleep at night.
Posted By: MMAFan432 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 12:43 PM
This is EXACTLY why they would fix a fight... excuse me, asshole...
With millions of dollars in tickets, PPV's, and merchandise... You think the fix wouldn't be in?
Anytime there is betting, there is the chance for a fix... excuse me again, asshole...
Read some history about boxing, wrestling, football, baseball, basketball etc. They have all been fixed. UFC is NO different.
Watch that knockout - it was very very questionable given the way Griffin ran back to the back.
Dana White is Vince McMahon in a different body, another PT Barnum, if you will.
Posted By: Guest#6860 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 04:12 PM
You sir, are a tool. Just have a cup of STFU and get fact straight before you open you mouth. Remember the saying, better of to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt....
Posted By: Guest#4411 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 05:07 PM
"p4p should mean that you can beat ANYONE in ANY weight class."
Then it wouldn't be pound-for-pound.
Posted By: Matt H (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 06:50 PM
"He was putting his hands down and relying on his head movement to sucker Forrest in; he was in such a zone he was timing everything Forrest did."
This is certainly possible, but couldn't he still have suckered him with head movements with his hands up?
Posted By: Chummy (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 07:12 PM
So the UFC would risk its gaming license and the millions and millions its about to make it "fix" a fight? Give me a break, but let the conspiracy theorist discuss if it helps them sleep at night.
Posted By: MMAFan432 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 12:43 PM
This is EXACTLY why they would fix a fight... excuse me, asshole...
With millions of dollars in tickets, PPV's, and merchandise... You think the fix wouldn't be in?
Anytime there is betting, there is the chance for a fix... excuse me again, asshole...
Read some history about boxing, wrestling, football, baseball, basketball etc. They have all been fixed. UFC is NO different.
Watch that knockout - it was very very questionable given the way Griffin ran back to the back.
Yes there have been instances of other sports being fixed, but its never on the biggest stage in the sport with millions of people watching. Its random Wedsnesday night NBA game or an obscure college football game and its about point shaving NOT changing the winner. That way it AVOIDS this type of scrutiny and is hard as hell to discover. It doesn't happen in the SuperBowl, and it doesn't happen in PPV UFC main events.
My theory on all of these "Forrest took a dive" people is that they put alot of faith in him as an "everyman" type of fighter who could take out the better fighter through sheer tenacity and toughness. At the very least he should be able to "go the distance". These are the same people that make it possible for Spike to run "Rocky" marathons every other weekend. But in the real world, Silva's amazing skill advantage so easily overwhelmed Forrest that those people just can't deal with it.
Posted By: Steven Xavier (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 07:50 PM
Dear people upset with Silva for being all defense,
Judo is popular for a reason. Also, he is fighting to win, not for your entertainment. Shut the fuck up.
Sincerely,
Go to Hell.
Posted By: Cactus (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 09:19 PM
If the fix was on for Silva v Forrest then Silva takes the fall. The underdog has to win for a fix to make the money. The idea that was a fix is not out of the realm of possibility, but didn't happen here. Forrest was the everyman who was outclassed by the arguably the best fighter in the world.
Posted By: Guest#2398 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 10:07 PM
My theory on all of these "Forrest took a dive" people is that they put alot of faith in him as an "everyman" type of fighter who could take out the better fighter through sheer tenacity and toughness. At the very least he should be able to "go the distance". These are the same people that make it possible for Spike to run "Rocky" marathons every other weekend. But in the real world, Silva's amazing skill advantage so easily overwhelmed Forrest that those people just can't deal with it.
Posted By: Steven Xavier (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 07:50 PM
Ohhhh, thank you for explaining to me why people love Forrest Griffin. I do appreciate that bruh, but yea Griffin was outclassed and FLAT-OUT embarrassed by the better fighter. We
Posted By: Guest#9713 (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 10:42 PM
To everyone questioning how 'legitimate' that the Anderson Silva vs. Forrest Griffin fight was, you all need to take a good long hard look at yourselves and ask, "What on earth are we thinking"...
Instead of trying to find a negative out of the situation, look at the positive and embrace it, we should all be honoured that we get to see Anderson Silva in his prime.
He took the former UFC Light-Heavyweight Champion, that's right UFC, not some local show, not some regional show, but the biggest show in the world, he took him to the cleaners and made him look so second rate, so amatuer-ish that everyone is questioning whether Forrest took a dive, the same Forrest who is all about hard work, guts and determination.
How dare anyone question Forrest Griffin, and secondly, how dare anyone question Anderson Silva's greatness, his skills are second to none in the UFC and we should be cherishing every moment we get to see him live and on PPV and in the flesh because he is a special once in a lifetime athlete.
And the same can be said about BJ Penn, he took the supposed #1 contender in Kenny Florian and yet again made him look second rate, Kenny was so intimidated, and so scared to try anything he was forced to just hold him against the cage, BJ had the better of the stand up, unbelievable take down defence and when it went to the mat, he showed why he earned the nickname "The Prodigy" - he is absolutely in a class of his own at 155lbs.
Posted By: xXxLenWierzalisxXx (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 10:54 PM
"He was putting his hands down and relying on his head movement to sucker Forrest in; he was in such a zone he was timing everything Forrest did."
"This is certainly possible, but couldn't he still have suckered him with head movements with his hands up?"
You have an unprotected head in front of you Chummy, you're more likely to swing wildly for it and be open to counterstrikes right? The Spider spun a web, Forrest got caught. Watch the fight again - Forrest wasn't close to connecting after the first knockdown. He got beat by a guy in a different league than him ... no shame in that.
Plus, Anderson Silva has always struck me as professional and respectful of mixed martial arts so I give him the benefit of the doubt. Rich Franklin doesn't say a bad word about Silva and he got decimated by him TWICE. So, no problems with his hands low, after he had Griffin's timing down.
Posted By: Tactix Millington (Guest) on August 10, 2009 at 09:46 PM
All you guys with your pound-for-pound nonsense, it's funny that you conveniently leave out Miguel Torres. The dude is crazy well-rounded, he always has exciting fights, and he hasn't lost in SIX YEARS. Also, his 36-1 record is better than even the mighty Fedor's 30-1. So, my questions is this: why no love for the Mullet?
Posted By: Wyatt Beougher (Guest) on August 09, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Because he's five foot nothing, 100 pound nothing...wait my cell's going off, it's nothing and it says it knows Torres!
Posted By: The Rock (Guest) on August 11, 2009 at 08:45 PM