411’s Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Rogers Report 11.07.09
Posted by Larry Csonka on 11.07.2009
Fedor Emelianenko defeated Brett Rogers in spectacular fashion in the night’s main event, Jake Shields defeated Jason Miller via decision to win the Strikeforce Middleweight Title, Gegard Mousasi was victorious in a non-title bout and more! Check out 411’s complete Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Rogers report for all the details!
411's Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Rogers Report 11.07.09!
-Preliminary Bout Results
* Christian Uflacker defeated Jonatas Novaes by Unanimous Decision (29-26, 30-25, 30-25)
* Nate Moore defeated Louis Taylor by Submission (Strikes) at 3:24 in Round Two
* Shamar Bailey defeated John Kolosci by Unanimous Decision (29-27 across)
* Jeff Curran defeated Dustin Naece by Submission/Injury (Knee to the Body) at 1:39 in Round One
* Marloes Coenen defeated Roxanne Modafferi by Submission (Armbar) at 1:05 in Round One
-From The Sears Centre, just outside of Chicago!
-Broadcast LIVE on CBS.
-Gus Johnson, Mauro Ranallo and Frank Shamrock are the announcers.
-We get an exclusive look at EA Sports MMA.
HEAVYWEIGHT BOUT - Antonio Silva (13-1) vs. Fabricio Werdum (12-4-1dr):
ROUND ONE: And here we go. They touch, thy circle, Werdum misses a high kick and eats a body kick by Silva. Jab by Silva, right by Werdum. Good shot by Werdum, but Silva with a combo, drops Werdum and RAINS down with shots. HUGE right, hammer fists and Werdum holds on to stop that. North south by Silva, and he then backs off. Werdum is cautious now, leg kick lands. Silva stalks him, combo by Silva. High kick checked by Silva, clinch, to the cage and Silva shoves him down and backs off. Jab by Silva, push kick by Werdum, both land rights and they clinch. Werdum has under hooks, tries a trip, fails. Elbow by Silva, separation and Werdum with the left, knee by Silva. Silva walks away at one point, showing no respect. Silva stalks him now, to the cage and knees by Silva. Dirty boxing by Werdum, HUGE elbow by Silva hurts Werdum. Werdum down, Silva walks away and the round ends.
SCORECARD: 10-9 Silva.
ROUND TWO: To round two we go, they touch and a great combo by Werdum but a counter hook sends him to the mat. Leg kicks by Silva, looks to go to the ground but stands. Silva down, hammer fists and now Werdum gets Silva on his back. Rights by Werdum, but Silva to his feet and eats a knee. Leg kick by Werdum, jab by Silva. Clinch, to the cage they go, Silva pushes him around, Werdum switches, and they get separated for lack of action. Center cage they go, leg kick by Werdum. Clinch, to the cage they go again, knee by Silva and clinch again. Werdum wants the single leg, and gets Silva down. Half guard now, Werdum passes to side control, looks for an arm, and gets a knee bar. Silva escapes, and not much happening as the round closes.
SCORECARD: Close round, 19-19.
ROUND THREE: Final round now, they touch and a leg kick by Werdum. Leg kick by Silva. Leg kick by Werdum, Silva misses with a knee, Werdum misses an uppercut, clinch, to the cage they go. Knees by Werdum, they separate. Leg kick by Werdum, shoots in, single leg and gets Silva down. He gets the back of Silva, lands rights, pushes Silva to the cage, Silva gets up as he tries a choke and knees by Werdum. Clinch now, a right by Silva as they separate. Another right, knee by Werdum lands. They trade, into the clinch, Silva escapes the single leg, clinch again, knees by Werdum. Rights by both, uppercut by Silva, clinch, Silva is slowing down big time. Werdum gets him down again, has his back, rights follow. Half guard by Werdum, rights follow now and he is doing some good damage. The round ends.
SCORECARD: Werdum 29-28
Jen Brown is with Fedor's trainer. Fedor does not talk to media the day of the fight. He is chilling right now. Fedor just doesn't like to be distracted.
THE RESULT: Fabricio Werdum via Unanimous Decision (29-28 Across The Cards)
ROUND ONE: Here we go. They come out, Jab by Mousasi. Another, Leg kick by Soko. High kick grazes Soko, body shot by Mousasi. They trade body kicks, leg kick by Soko. Head kick again by Mousasi grazes Soko. Hard leg kick by Mousasi. Left by Soko, and Mousasi hits him in the groin. He takes a moment, and Soko is back to action. Soko says he got groined again. But not bad as they go back to action. Jab by Soko, tries to shoot and then comes in with a left. Soko fails on the takedown, knee by Mousasi after the jab. Another good jab by Mousasi. Left and a leg kick by Soko. Body kick by Mousasi, combo follows and then Soko takes him down. Soko looks for a guillotine, Mousasi rolls, gets side control and tries the arm bar, Soko out and gets back on top. North south position, works for the guillotine, knees follow, Mousasi escapes and they clinch. Mousasi looks for a takedown, but Soko lands on top. Soko backs off, eats up kicks, Mousasi gets a trip, takes Soko down and the round ends.
SCORECARD: Soko 10-9.
ROUND TWO: They come out for round two, hard body kick by Mousasi. Clinch, to the cage and both trade some shots. Knees by Mousasi, he punishes the things with them, wild right misses by Mousasi. Combo lands now, unloads big time on Soko and back to the clinch. More knees by Mousasi, rights by Mousasi as well. They go to the ground, pulling each other down, and Soko lands in half guard. Soko not doing anything, Mousasi rolls, looks to take the arm home, and then into guard. Punches by Mousasi, clean lefts by Mousasi, rains down and then follows with body shots. Soko gets warned to protect himself, Mousasi continues to land shots, Soko does nothing to protect, and the fight is stopped.
THE RESULT: Gegard Mousasi via RD2 (3:43) TKO
-Andrei Arlovski, Robbie Lawler, Scott Smith, Matt Lindland, Shinya Aoki and Cung Le are all in attendance.
-We get a video preview for Miller vs. Shields.
-Mayhem has an entrance with dancers; he is a great man!
VACANT MIDDLEWEIGHT TITLE BOUT - Jason "Mayhem" Miller (22-6-1dr-1nc) vs. Jake Shields (23-4-1dr):
ROUND ONE: Miller will enjoy a 5 inch reach advantage. BIG JOHN gets a HUGE pop as the official for the bout. And here we go, they come out, trade, Shields goes for and gets the takedown. Works him into the cage, working for mount here, Miller tries to stand, body shots by Shields. Shields gets his back, hooks in, Miller rolls, rights by Shields. Has mount now. Shoulder shrugs by Shields, buck and roll and Miller escapes. To the cage in the clinch, Shields shoots, to the cage, and works Miller down. Miller to a seated position, body shots by Shields and Miller just shrugs his shoulders and acts like nothing is happening. Shields keeps working the body shots, a few to the head, and controlling things. Miller to the feet, and Miller slams him down. Into the guard he goes, Shields tries to hold the hands, Miller stands, Shields looks for a leg, to the feet and they go to the cage again. Miller gets a German suplex, shots to the face by Miller from the side and the round ends.
SCORECARD: Close round there, but I think Shields did enough to take the round. 10-9.
ROUND TWO: Miller opens the second round with good strikes, clinch and to the cage they go. Shields got cut on the exchange, knees by Miller, who takes Shields down. Odd wrestling position now, like a side roll up, Shields looks to work from the back, gets mount and lands to the head of Miller. Miller works off of the cage to escape, but Shields gets the back again. Shields looking for a rear naked choke, has the back, lands some punches, but Miller scrambles, out for a moment, and back to the side roll wrestling position. Shields to side control, half guard now. Miller works to the cage, Shields working to get his back again, and works for the choke again, but Miller is able to fight that off. Shields all over his back, but Miller rolls and escapes to the feet. Drops in, Shields looks for a heel hook, figure fours the leg, Miller works out as the round ends.
SCORECARD: 20-18 Shields.
ROUND THREE: Round three begins and Miller takes him down right away. They get back to the feet, and Shields then takes Miller down. Shoulder shrugs by Shields, has side control and then knees to the body. Miller is composed, mount by Shields, but Miller gets it right back to half guard. Body shots by Shields, gets mount and the back again. Lands good rights to both levels, Shields on the back again, has one hook in, monkey roll by Miller into half guard, Shields sweeps and to his feet. Back fist by Miller! They clinch, to the cage, an they get separated as Miller needs tape trimmed on his gloves. Back to the original position, and Shields takes Miller down once again. Miller in the seated position, tries to wall walk, but Shields keeps him down. Shields rolls, guillotine applied, but Miller escapes to his feet. Against the cage they go again, Shields takes him down, but Miller reverses, gets the body locked, works for the rear naked choke, Shields fights, he is close, but then gets it! But Shields is SAVED by the horn! Miller had the choke for nearly 10-seconds there.
SCORECARD: 30-27 Shields, but there have been close rounds.
ROUND FOUR: Championship rounds now, and neither fighter has been in these rounds. Shields once again works for and gets the takedown. Shields keeps control, Miller is seated as Shields locks up the legs and lands some body shots, the crowd hates it. They start to chant for Miller, but Shields keeps him in the same position. Big John stands them up. Knees to the body by Miller, Shields takes him down again, Shields to side control, he wants crucifix position, can't get it. Mount again by Shields, looking for the arm triangle, Miller escapes, but Shields gets his back and looks for the choke. Shields back to mount, gets the back again, monkey roll by Miller and Shields is able to get his back once again. Shields now to side control, he is controlling but not doing damage. The round ends.
SCORECARD: 40-36 for Shields. I could see one of the rounds going to Miller though.
They talk with Brett Rogers. He used to change tires, now he looks to kill Fedor.
ROUND FIVE: Final round now, Miller standing, looking to land. They clinch to the cage, knees by Miller. Body shots follow, Shields looks for a guillotine, knees as well, takedown by Shields. Good scrambling, Shields has the back of Miller as they stand against the cage. Shields looks for a single leg, Miller back to the seated position, Shields works him down and has mount again. He then gets the back of Miller, lands some body shots, then head shots. Miller works off of the cage, but Shields figure fours the body, landing good shots, almost had the choke, but Miller defends. Miller reverses and escapes. Miller looks for a guillotine, Shields escapes and in the half guard. Shields on the back again, body shots again, and Miller to his feet. Shields muscles him down again, they stand and Miller lands a few shots, but the round ends.
SCORECARD: 50-45 Shields.
THE RESULT: NEW CHAMPION Jake Shields via Unanimous Decision (48-47, 49-46, 49-46)
WAMMA HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE BOUT: Fedor Emelianenko (31-1-1nc) vs. Brett Rogers (10-0):
ROUND ONE: Rogers has a six-inch reach advantage. Big John is the official. HERE WE GO! They come out, dancing now, Rogers avoids a wild left from Fedor and landed a jab that seems to have bloodied Fedor. They trade, Fedor gets Rogers down, but Rogers back up and to the cage they go. Knees by Rogers, Fedor bleeding from the nose. More knees by Rogers, warning for grabbing the fence for Rogers. Rogers laying on him against the cage, more knees by Rogers as Fedor has to breathe from his mouth. They separate, Fedor catches Rogers! He tries to get him down, finally down, Rogers on his back, Fedor lands shots, and then into half guard for Fedor. Fedor looking for an arm, tries for a kimura, but Rogers is on top. Ground and pound by Rogers! Armbar try by Fedor, Rogers out and stands, caught Rogers and Rogers is on his back again as Fedor is bleeding badly. Fedor looks for the head and arm choke, works out, Rogers has him back in guard. Fedor stands, up kicks by Rogers, Fedor dives in and misses. Back into the guard, and the round ends. Lots of blood coming from Fedor due to a cut, and possible nose break.
SCORECARD: 10-9 Rogers, but very close.
ROUND TWO: Round two now, they come out, Fedor misses a left, Rogers dances, Rogers throws a jab, they clinch, body shots by Rogers. Fedor unloads now, but Rogers blocks most. To the cage, underhooks by Rogers, works knee strikes. More knees, Rogers keeps him against the cage, and they separate. HUGE right by Fedor, DROPS Rogers, follows up and that is all.
THE RESULT: Fedor Emelianenko via RD2 (1:48) TKO Fatality
Gus Johnson is with Fedor. Fedor is asked about the cut he suffered, and says he feels good now, thank God and thanks for asking. He is asked about Rogers' size, and says that he says not to be nervous and learn about the opponent in the first round. He puts over Rogers, but he watched his legs and knew he could catch an opening. He is thankful to all the fans, for his supporters, and there are people in Russia who are praying for him, and that makes this their victory as well.
Gus is with Rogers now. Rogers hated losing, and will come back stronger. He wants a rematch. He doubted himself, and that cost him.
did they censor rogers after the fight? the audio would come and go
Posted By: Guest#4206 (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 11:29 PM
Now I know why Fedor went to Strikeforce, cause Brock woulda killed him.
Posted By: Guest#4164 (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 11:32 PM
DANIEL, JEFFREY, AND PATRICK:
HAVE WE LEARNED ANYTHING FROM TODAY'S CLASS?
Fedor just knocked the mohawk off Rogers' head. I guess your WILD predictions did not work out for you-YOU LOSE, sorry.
As for Rogers, what an a-hole-
This guy not only needs to learn how to fight Fedor, he needs to learn how to lose with class. He is 10x worse than Brock Lesnar-yet you will hear no one bitch about him because he was never in the WWE.
Congrats Fedor-a TRUE HERO!
Posted By: Guest#8971 (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 11:33 PM
Okay now i'm impressed. Fedor just handled a a 26olb guy with real striking skills and KTFO! yeah he's real and Dana White's jealous and mad....
Posted By: MadLiberator (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Posted By: Anonguy (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 11:36 PM
WOW!!! Fedor almost took Rogers' head off with that last big shot. He almost fell down himself when he caught Rogers. Now thats some power!
Posted By: tim (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 11:38 PM
Nice, good to see Fedor wins. Fedor has faced 2 fighters in a row with great stand up, which is Fedor's weak point, and knocked them both out. Anyone who still doubts Fedor has their head stuck up Dana's ass. Roger's isn't the best fighter in the world..... but Fedor is
Posted By: Shawno420 (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 11:45 PM
fedor might be the scott smith of the heavyweight division. takes a shit kicking, then gets a lucky punch through. congrats to fedor, now hopefully he fights some top competition again.
Posted By: Guest#0675 (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Fedor bladed! It's a work!
Posted By: Official Manhugger (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 11:47 PM
Just a thought....could you guys hold off on this until it airs all across the country? The fight hasn't even started yet for the Mountain time zone. Guess I'll stay off your site on fight nights.
Posted By: bozeman (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 11:52 PM
I saw the fear in Rogers eyes after Fedor got him with the first big punch...that where the fear starts for most when they fight Fedor
Posted By: wolvie316 (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 11:54 PM
Just a thought....could you guys hold off on this until it airs all across the country? The fight hasn't even started yet for the Mountain time zone. Guess I'll stay off your site on fight nights.
Posted By: bozeman (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 11:52 PM
You sound like a total troll.
If you are so worried about finding out the results-you should not even be visiting this site.
Go back to your mom's basement.
Posted By: Guest#9695 (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 11:58 PM
wow lots of people in this comment section must of climaxed at the fedor KO. but the thing is he didnt dominate that fight. yes it was an impressive ko, but bret won the 1st round and could have put fedor out with the ground and pound in the first. so yes congrats fedor, but damn people keep it in your pants.
Posted By: tony danza (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Now I know why Fedor went to Strikeforce, cause Brock woulda killed him.
Posted By: Guest#4164 (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 11:32 PM
Brock lost to Frank Mir.
STFU.
Posted By: Guest#5741 (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 11:59 PM
He's still way overrated and would get murdered in the UFC, period.
Posted By: The Truth (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 12:05 AM
He's still way overrated and would get murdered in the UFC, period.
Posted By: The Truth (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 12:05 AM
Absolute bullshit.
He might lose a fight, but anyone can when the skilled heavyweights are fighting.
Fedor would beat anyone in UFC more times than he would lose. Including Brock.
In a couple of years time when Brock is at his peak and Fedor is further past his, it'd be different.
Posted By: Guest#5088 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 12:20 AM
fedor was very impressive, and i think alot more highly of him now just gettin out of that pressure packed fight.
At the same time people are acting like he fought brock lesnar...yes he beat someone brock's size...but no where near brock's strength, brock's speed, and brock's wrestling ability.
Brett Rogers is just a better kimbo slice than kimbo slice is. Fedor was very impressive but lets keep it in perspective. Fedor already beat rogers..now its overeem and then who does Fedor fight??
Posted By: bullfrog24 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Nice to see that Gegard Mousasi beat Gegard Mousasi. (look at the bold report snuff piece at top).
Posted By: Lucifer (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 12:44 AM
At the same time people are acting like he fought brock lesnar...yes he beat someone brock's size...but no where near brock's strength, brock's speed, and brock's wrestling ability.
Brett Rogers is just a better kimbo slice than kimbo slice is. Fedor was very impressive but lets keep it in perspective. Fedor already beat rogers..now its overeem and then who does Fedor fight??
You sound like you haven't been watching MMA for too long. Fedor has beat all sizes, the best of the best, when UFC was in the dumps-the best were all fighting at PRIDE-and that was where Fedor was Champion.
As for his next fights? Same thing can be said about Brock-who will he fight after Shane Carwin?
Nuff Said.
Posted By: Huh? (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 12:45 AM
Would a, Could a', Should a, Almost... didn't do jack shit! Isn’t' worth A Monkey Turk! In this sport... Why?... Booth Fedor & Mousasi, Lost their respective “First rounds”… Yet! Who Won? VIVA LA FEDOR!!!... A Chinguarse, su Pinche Madre, Lesnar-Lover's...
Posted By: Fear_Inc. (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 12:55 AM
no brock didnt lose to frank mir. He lost to Frank Mir and a biased Ref who called for a BS stand-up when he should have called for the bell. Fedor would get killed against Brock. Hell it took Fedor 2 rounds to beat a guy changing tires at a Sams Club.
Posted By: Guest#5108 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 12:56 AM
So let me get this… 24 hours ago… A shit load a people said that “Rogers was going to K’ tha’ MotherFuck Out, Fedor. To prove that Fedor is Massively Overrated”… and 1 Hour After the fight “Rogers, lost because He’s a better version of Kimbo Slice”… to “bullfrog24”, and all the other Anti –Fedor Club Member’s… IF you’re going too lose, at Least admit that you Lost, like a Man... And stop making cheap excuses Like a Wimpy Bitch. OH! Like I said Before: “A Chingarse su Pinche Madre!
Posted By: Fear_Inc. (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 01:08 AM
"Brett Rogers is just a better kimbo slice than kimbo slice is. Fedor was very impressive but lets keep it in perspective. Fedor already beat rogers..now its overeem and then who does Fedor fight??"
Verdum...who he should kill. But while we're being honest, its not like Brock has a multitude of options after Carwin, who is the "Brett Rodgers" of the UFC without the striking technique and much better wrestling. Brock will have big Nog (whom Fedor dominated on two occasions) and Cain (who is Jake O'Brien with a little better ground and pound). Then what? Dos Santos = a younger Big Foot Silva. Chieck Kongo? Frank Mir? Who ever wins TUF 10? Seriously?
The Heavyweight division is notoriously slim as a whole, not just UFC and not just Strikeforce. Let's stop pretending that just because people now know what "MMA" is in the states because of UFC, that they know what they're talking about.
As for me, I just wish Hendo had done a little staredown with Moussasi after Soko got stomped.
Posted By: David Wise (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 01:10 AM
I have to admit that I had not seen Fedor fight, (other than internet highlights) and thought that the reputation was more hype...and I was wrong. Fedor is an impressively scary individual...and I am a huge UFC fan who happens to like Brock. There is little doubt in my mind, that at this point, Fedor would win, and most likely easily. Give it 2 or 3 years, and if Brock continues to grow (and stops ducking his fight (the flu...cough))and wins, that may be interesting. Until then, can't wait to see Fedor's next bait.
Posted By: Kevin (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 01:12 AM
Fedor fn sucks!!! THIS is the guy you MMA dorks have been creaming over? You MUST be kidding....Brock would have took his friggen head off.
As others have said now we know why he avoided the UFC...he is WAAAAAAAY overrated.
Posted By: unimpressed (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 01:18 AM
BRETT DID NOT WIN THE 1st round who ever thinks that is AN IDIOT, fedor dominated the majority of that fight, rogers: got a jab, knees in the clinch against cage, and connected with 2 or 3 punches on the ground. Fedor: 3 take downs, tossed him around, was the agressor, 3 submission attempts, 1 huge bomb, 1 huge flurry, 1 huge KO. AND IT WAS NOT A LUCKY PUNCH WOW, watch it, fedor bounces off the cage takes a deep breath and gets loose, bounces around and throws a PERFECT counter punch, no luck... stupid casual MMA fans
Posted By: Matt (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 01:18 AM
Fedor isn't all he's been hyped up to be. Yes, the punch was great. But against real competition, he might not get that punch off. Someone else said it, but I'll say it again: no one in MMA has Brock's size, speed, power, and wrestling skill. Fedor wanted no part of him. Which is why he signed with Strikeforce. There's no competition for him there. And when's the last time Overeem fought? And after him, Verdum, and Silva, who's he got left to fight?
He wasn't that impressive. Rogers was handing him his ass until the punch. And Fedor knows it. He will not win a rematch.
Posted By: CMatt666 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 01:32 AM
Thought i'd mention the typo in the report description: "gerard Mousasi defeated gerard Mousasi" :)
Posted By: Guest#3304 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 01:32 AM
Fedor is one charismatic MoFo!
Posted By: Aftergone (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 02:17 AM
Now I know why Fedor went to Strikeforce, cause Brock woulda killed him.
Posted By: Guest#4164 (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 11:32 PM
Brock lost to Frank Mir.
STFU.
Posted By: Guest#5741 (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Sure didn't look like what was happening before the crappy stand up
Posted By: S Dot (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 02:23 AM
Gegard Mousasi screwed Gegard Mousasi
Posted By: Bret Hart (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 02:29 AM
Brett Rogers is just a better kimbo slice than kimbo slice is. Fedor was very impressive but lets keep it in perspective. Fedor already beat rogers..now its overeem and then who does Fedor fight??
What exactly is the similarity between Kimbo and Rogers? That they're both black? What a stupid comment. I guess when Kimbo drops to LHW suddenly Rampage and Rashad become "a better Kimbo."
Posted By: Guest#3179 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 02:41 AM
Fedor by TKO -- OR by Fatality might have been the greatest comment ever.
I just have to say this:
This fight shows why neither Lesnar nor Coture would never really be successful against Fedor. Yes he was pushed against the cage but managed to subdue that in a pretty good way. I would also argue that Lesnar's ground game is not going to be enough and Coture will never be able to manhandle Fedor like one of the bigger fighters in the league. Thirdly, none of their stand up game is close to what Fedor has. I would say Coture is better stand up than Lesnar (and Rogers is probably a more dangerous striker than both of the above challengers), but who would you pick in a stand up battle? Fedor or Coture? pretty easy pick in my book... So although I love the UFC and most of the things they do, it will not and never will be the challenge that people expect for Fedor. Great fight and alot of action, just like I wanted the fight to go through.
Peace
Posted By: cpaulsso (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 02:49 AM
So, I have nothing to say about the card itself, other then the announcers are shit, Mauro Renallo being relegated to off color guy was a good move, but keeping him off the air would have been even better. But my main concern is in the headline for this recap. I know Mousassi beat Sokoujdou, but when did Mousassi beat Mousassi?
Posted By: Obvious Guy (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 02:57 AM
The fight between
Gegard Mousasi defeated Gegard Mousasi was the best fight of the night!!!!
Posted By: Guest#2570 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 03:05 AM
10-9 for Rogers in the first? Your name must be Cecil Peoples.
Posted By: Bob J (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 03:20 AM
Thanks to Vince Russo for a great Card tonight, and fantastic story lines!!!!!!!
Posted By: Guest#0447 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 03:33 AM
Oiy, I friggin' DVR's the show and it cut off RIGHT before the main event...damnit. From what I saw of the show, the thought left in my head was "Man, GSP would destroy Jake Shields".
Posted By: Wyku (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 03:50 AM
knew fedor would win but rogers put up a nice lil scrap.he gained alot of respect with that loss in my book
Posted By: kingkongstudley (Registered) on November 08, 2009 at 04:41 AM
I was impressed by Rogers and Fedor. Rogers played a clever game, trying to wear fedor down against the (unfamiliar) cage and sap his strength. However fedor looked consistently willing to throw and also a persistent danger whenever the fight went to the ground - Rogers did seem to keep feeding him an arm, which isn't clever if you've watched any Fedor highlight reels.
The sheer explosiveness of the Ko was impressive, and I remain one of the camp who reckon Fedor would be succesful in UFC.
Posted By: chris.crowing (Registered) on November 08, 2009 at 04:58 AM
Fedor and Brock have the same amount of losses stupid fuck
Posted By: Guest#2113 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 05:12 AM
fedor won the first round he just suffered the cut from the jab and a few when he was down. But he rocked brett took him down wwas more active tried 2 subs and was moving forward. Brett is a sore loser he has no class he seems like a bully. I jsut wanna see fedor KO brock so the nay sayers shut up. well then again its known fedor is the best.
Posted By: joe (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 06:18 AM
Well after Shane Carwin, you've got Cain, Randy, Mir rubber match, anyone from the Ultimate Fighter, NOg, the list does go on. I have nothing against Fedor but in all seriousness he did get lucky with that punch. How's he gonna get out of the first round against Brock when the ref stops the fight because he cant defend himself against all those hammer fists. Say what you want but it's the truth. I love Fedor too.
Posted By: chewb... (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 06:19 AM
" In a couple of years time when Brock is at his peak and Fedor is further past his, it'd be different. "
And that is why he dodges Brock now. He can fight him later and have a better excuse. Fedor didn't look impressive at all. He looked good, but he could have been finished in this fight. not saying he's not good but this fight really didn't showcase anything.
Posted By: Guest#9133 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 06:52 AM
Good win by Fedor but anyone without Fedor's nuts in their mouth can see that it was a close fight and a non-dominating performance until the great punch by Fedor. I think Brock v Fedor would be a close fight and what the fans want....shame that it doesn't seem ever likely to happen.
Posted By: UK MMA fan (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 07:15 AM
just watched the fight... have no clue how anyone thinks Rogers did better then "okay". Fedor easily won the first round. Rogers landed one jab... had the outward control of a cage tie up, but inflicted no damage and really did nothing... and had mount for 4-5 seconds and again didnt do any real damage. Fedor on the other hand had that big furry not long after taking the jab, had top control when it went to the ground for most of the time. Almost beat Fedor by TKO, armbar, and anaconda choke... easily a 10-9 Fedor. Second round.. well, we all saw (or read) what happened.
Posted By: Craig (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 07:32 AM
Only those are surprised by Fedors lack of domination who never saw a Fedor fight before. Most of the time,this man lets his opponent fight,Coleman took him down,Hunt tried to submit him,Randleman nearly broke his neck,Fujita rocked him,but every one of them ended up losing one minute later.
Posted By: SoulBrotherNo1 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 07:37 AM
Having never seen Fedor fight other than the edited stuff you find on the net, seems like he caught Rogers with a lucky punch. But he was impressive on the ground. And that EA MMA game looks godawful. Nobody should ever shout 'ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!' except MG.
Posted By: Guest#8567 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 08:12 AM
Fedor's skills were unbelievable in this fight. I was also impressed with Rogers ability to escape the few times he was on the ground, and to get fedor with as many good shots as he did.
... Way to be humble with his loss though (so much for all the respect he had earned from me).
And anyone saying Fedor is a bitch for loosing the first round, I take it you have never seen any other Fedor matches? It is called feeling your opponent out and keeping your composure. Fedor enjoys it.
Posted By: AG Awesome (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 08:13 AM
Brock Lesner are you serious? Not only could Fedor beat him but many others too. Its only a matter of time. Fedor has been tested by every kind of fighter there is, with almost every different style. Fedor has great stand up fighting and has for a while now. His last loss was in 2000(one of his first mma fights). It wasnt even a loss. It was stopped in 17 secs due to a cut that wouldnt stop bleeding. He hasnt actually ever been beat. Im sure he will someday, but he is only 33 and has a few good years left at least. Rogers barely one the first round. There was a few times Fedor had him in trouble too. Rogers comments about "Well I'll keep my hands up next time", or "If I kept my hands up". That wasnt it, Fedor timed it perfectly and waited till Rogers threw his left hook. Fedor took advantage of this, and hit faster, and on the inside of Rogers punch. Both their bodys already being launched toward each other creates a lot of power. Very smart on Fedors part and thats one of the best things about the Emperor. Fedor has been suplexed directly on his head, kicked and punched in the head by some of the toughest fighters in the world and he has never been knocked out or submitted. That isnt chance or luck, .... That is pure skill.
Posted By: Guest (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 08:14 AM
the whole presentation by strikeforce was amateur at best. the audio occasionally dropped out. the refs didn't tell the fighters to pick things up (especially in the first fight).mcarthy stopped the fedor fight way too soon. rogers was protecting himself. i think mcarthy was told to stop it the first chance he got when fedor was in a dominant position. he is, after all, strikeforces golden goose. if he lost, they would have went the way of all the other defunct mma organizations. dana white comes off as a douche but he does provide good talent, slickly produced product and entertaining announcers. shamrock couldn't even pronounce sokadjus name for crying out loud. after seeing what has become of fedor(and i admit, his smash to rogers face was impressive) if he had been in that kind of shape and fought lesnar, lesnar would have enjoyed riding him and pounding his face to a bloody pulp (ala the herring fight) for as long as the ref would allow the beating to continue. fedor needs to come out of the russian ozarks and train like a professional if he is going to keep up with the direction the sport is headed.
Posted By: Dave Miller (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 08:32 AM
"At the same time people are acting like he fought brock lesnar...yes he beat someone brock's size...but no where near brock's strength, brock's speed, and brock's wrestling ability.
Brett Rogers is just a better kimbo slice than kimbo slice is. Fedor was very impressive but lets keep it in perspective. Fedor already beat rogers..now its overeem and then who does Fedor fight??
You sound like you haven't been watching MMA for too long. Fedor has beat all sizes, the best of the best, when UFC was in the dumps-the best were all fighting at PRIDE-and that was where Fedor was Champion.
As for his next fights? Same thing can be said about Brock-who will he fight after Shane Carwin?
Nuff Said.
Posted By: Huh? (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 12:45 AM"
After Carwin, Brock could have a rematch with him win/lose and still has money fights with Nog and Velasquez.
Posted By: Flyinf Dutchman (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 08:45 AM
Shields is a boring fighter.
Posted By: Guest#6944 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 09:03 AM
no brock didnt lose to frank mir. He lost to Frank Mir and a biased Ref who called for a BS stand-up when he should have called for the bell. Fedor would get killed against Brock. Hell it took Fedor 2 rounds to beat a guy changing tires at a Sams Club.
Posted By: Guest#5108 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 12:56 AM
Fedor will NEVER Tap out!-Brock did so in his 1st match!!! Biased ref or not, if he tapped once, he'll tap again in the future- and no way I can ever respect someone like that!
FEDOR IS AN MMA GOD!
Undefeated in 10 years Motherfu**er!
Posted By: Guest#7705 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 09:38 AM
Fedor fn sucks!!! THIS is the guy you MMA dorks have been creaming over? You MUST be kidding....Brock would have took his friggen head off.
As others have said now we know why he avoided the UFC...he is WAAAAAAAY overrated.
Posted By: unimpressed (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 01:18 AM
You base this on your many years of watching MMA? You sound like a wrestling fan-let me make this point clear for you:
Think of Fedor as The Undertaker at WrestleMania WITHOUT the script-but for REAL. Fedor losing is NEVER going to happen-you will never see Fedor tap out to someone like Frank Mir-EVVVVVEER as Y2J would say!
"WAAAAYY overrated" or not-that's the TRUTH, wrestling fan-live with it!!!
Posted By: Guest#6244 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 09:42 AM
I'll admit to being a huge fan of Lesnar and I made no prediction on this particular fight as I felt that like Carwin, Brett Rogers hadn't fought anyone not named Arlovski (Gonzaga for Carwin) to warrant this hype he had. That said, while Fedor was very explosive, Rogers gave him fits and could Fedor could not submit him. So I say if Lesnar got him on the ground, he would win there and I do not feel Fedor would be able to take Lesnar down however Lesnar could drop Fedor at will. He'd just have to avoid those freight train fists first.
Posted By: JP (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 10:06 AM
fear inc. People arnt impressed with you insulting them in a language they dont speak. Just makes you look foolish
Posted By: AG Awesome (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Now I know why Fedor went to Strikeforce, cause Brock woulda killed him.
Posted By: Guest#4164 (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 11:32 PM
Brock lost to Frank Mir.
STFU.
Posted By: Guest#5741 (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Brock also Beat Frank Mir
STFU
Posted By: Guest#1127 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 10:18 AM
There was a good Shields/Miller fight on this show right? From the comments it seems like all everyone cares about is Fedor yet the entire card was pretty good especially for being on free tv.
Posted By: Flying Dutchman (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 10:39 AM
Too the Thousand’s of “Lesnar Love Club” Member’s, and the “unimpressed” Douche, Let’s Compare their respective track records, shell we:
Let’s take a Look at Mr. Lesnar’s MMA Track Record:
Only Lost: Lesnar vs. Mir I = Lesnar Lost (Because he got submitted)
To make it short, He has beaten: Min Soo Kim = Lesnar Won (1rd. KO + Being a Bully), Herring = Lesnar Won (U.D + Being a Bully), Couture = Lesnar Won (2rd. KO + Being a Bully) & Mir II = Lesnar Won (2rd. TKO + Being a Bully)
Note: Lesnar fully Outweigh each an every one of his opponent’s… booth in Height & Weight, basically bullying the shit out of them.
So that’s a 4-1 record, Right?
Let’s take a Look at Mr. Emilianenko’s MMA Track Record:
Only Lost: Fedor vs. Kosaka I = Fedor Lost (Because he got Cut, by a Strike)
To make it short, He has beaten : Arona, Schall, Sobral, Herring, Big Nog (Twice, If you Ask Me), Kosaka, Fujita, Goodridge, Nagata, Coleman (Twice), Randleman, Ogawa, Cro Cop, Zuluzinho, Hunt, Lindland, Choi, Silvia, Arlovski, Rogers… all at their Prime… Convincingly!
Note: Fedor has being in times Fully Outweigh or on par with the Majority of his opponent’s… booth in Height & Weight.
So that’s a 31-1-1 record, Right... Listen if you don’t like Fedor, That’s Fine… But don’t use “Lesnar’s Track Record” as an excuse to back up that comment… That Makes you Look like a Full Blown "Maricon!"
Posted By: Fear_Inc. (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 10:43 AM
Isn't it nice to have a champ that does his talking in the ring? Thanks Fedor for reminding those who forgot how a real champion carries himself in and out of the ring.
p.s.
Rogers looked a helluva lot better than Ben Rothwell (30 wins and can't defend a takedown) who I paid good money to watch.
Posted By: Dan C. (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 10:44 AM
wow lol yes i know about fedor beating all sizes but i figured that you guys would know that fighting hong man choi isn't that legit but...i guess i haven't been a mma fan long enough to know how ..great hong man choi is.
And there are alot of options for brock to fight after carwin compared to fedor. Rematch with mir again, nogueria (however u spell that lol), cain, junior dos santos, if cheick kongo can make a come up again, thats 5 ppl that would all be interesting.
Posted By: bullfrog24 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 10:53 AM
MMA dorks? im pretty sure ur a pro wrestling dork, and my sport is real.
anyway, how the fuck are u gna give rodgers that first row? fedor owned him
and, you didnt give miller 1 round in the shields fight? that shit was dead even until the 5th.
Posted By: Guest#9986 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 11:03 AM
How is Brock ducking someone when he has mono?
Posted By: Juan Valdez (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 11:18 AM
It's the first live fight I've seen Fedor in. Heis scary, not because of how he fights but how he plans. He scouted Rogers for an opening and ROCKED him when he got the chance. He also managed to escape the G&P and fight one full round with a bloody nose.
The only way Brock can beat this guy is rocking him early and G&P him like a maniac, Rogers had his chance but Fedor outsmarted him.
Posted By: JA Toro (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 11:28 AM
@ Guest#5108
Hell it took Fedor 2 rounds to beat a guy changing tires at a Sams Club.
Posted By: (Guest)
STFU
YOU couldn't beat a tire from Sams club ! Ass hat !
Posted By: Hat (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Rogers is a really tough fighter and caught Fedor with some good shots but Fedor is like that one guy in the 13th Warrior is losing the sword duel then just as it looks the worst for him he pulls off a skillful move and kills the guy, then Antonia Banderas walks up and says "You!! You could've killed him at anytime". Thats Fedor I mean look how many times he's been hit harder and even cut worse than that. Its not toying he does to them its called leading, he makes you think you're getting somewhere then blammo you're done.
Posted By: Paul (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 11:34 AM
When are you Fedor-hating fags going to realize you are wrong? The last 2 fights Fedor has faced people who have great striking, something Fedor doesn't have, and he's won by KO. Notice how Brock always wins in his element? Fedor wins in every element. I'm not saying Fedor will beat Brock 10 times out of 10, he wouldn't, Brock would beat him once or twice, but Fedor would win most of the time. Fedor is the best HW fighter in the world. He faced someone way bigger then him(Kimbo is a small HW, Rogers is a big one, and Kimbo has sloppy street fighting striking, so that comparison is stupid) who has better striking then him, and beat him by KO. Brock has already lost to someone with good submissions, and Fedor is way better on the ground then Mir. Brock would take Fedor down, pound on him for awhile, then Fedor will catch him in a submission. Nobody complains when Big Nog does it, but suddenly Fedor isn't good because he does it
Posted By: Shawno420 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 12:34 PM
CMatt666,
You sound like you are in denial, and do not know much about MMA, as your comments seem like you are lacking expertise.
Fedor's track record in 10 years speaks for itself. He has beaten the BEST fighters in the world-if you do not watch MMA full time, please do not comment.
PRIDE fighters were and still are considered the cream of the crop-those fighters got scattered around and are now in the UFC.
So yes, the fighters that are currently the top guys in UFC fought for the organizations that Fedor RULED.
As for the pro wrestler,
Brock tapped out in his 1st match-and anyone who tapped out ONCE will tap out again, history has proven that!
That is where he loses my respect.
Getting knocked out is one thing-but tapping out of will and admitting loss is pathetic!
Fedor has never tapped-and evidently, never will. He would rather die than TAP.
What makes a Champion is his will to fight and never surrender. Add that to Fedor's incredible win-loss record, ERR WIN RECORD, and you will see why Dana White offfered Fedor sooo much money to fight in the UFC. Brock did not get that amount offered to him for a reason. He had to prove himself. It took him a few fights to do so.
As for his match with Shane Carwin, I am picking Shane-as I don't think Brock will be able to take that famous 1 round KO punch that Shane delivers.
Posted By: RealityCheck (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 01:11 PM
Now I know why Fedor went to Strikeforce, cause Brock woulda killed him.
Posted By: Guest#4164 (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 11:32 PM
Brock lost to Frank Mir.
STFU.
Posted By: Guest#5741 (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Sure didn't look like what was happening before the crappy stand up
Posted By: S Dot (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 02:23 AM
It sure did, when he was TAPPING.
The Undertaker was in the audience and was shaking his head for Brock.
SAD.
Posted By: NeverTapped (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 01:13 PM
"He wasn't that impressive. Rogers was handing him his ass until the punch. And Fedor knows it. He will not win a rematch."
Yeah, my favorite part was Rogers unbeatable butt scoot and shin kick tactic...man, Fedor has NEVER had his ankle abused like that time. And when Rogers repeatedly went stumbling around in the first round. But, I guess we can all forget that because he threw three punches in Fedor's guard that did no discernible damage or even slowed Fedor down. This is so dumb. No one who took this fight seriously thought a 260 lb puncher - a HUNGRY puncher - was just going to lay down for Fedor. Rogers wanted this win and worked his ass off to try and get it. Fedor has been in danger many times, been bloody many times, broken his hand many times, it is the proof that he challenges himself.
Finally, what is with this "he must go to the UFC" crap. Look, I would have loved him to sign with them, but so far, i have much more respect for Randy Couture than Brock. Randy said, "Fedor is the best, I want to fight him!" and gave up his cushy job beating up Gabe Gonzaga to go challenge himself. Brock wants nothing to do with that. Could he beat Fedor? For sure he can, he's a great wrestler with decent power. But, if he really wanted to be champ for anything more than the money, he would push for an interpromotional fight with Fedor, like Couture did. Fedor is the one going on a world tour of ass kicking, Brock is taking comfort that the letters UFC really mean you are the best.
Posted By: Sasukespecialman (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 01:17 PM
That free card last night was as good as any UFC event I've payed 50 bucks for in the last few years. I hope Strike Force can keep putting together cards like this, and with the possible gain of Hendo and Aoki, it's looking like they'll be able to.
Some cross-promotional cards with Dream would be pretty nice to see. (cross-promo cards with UFC would be better, but i guess dana and zuffa don't want to split the jewgold)
Posted By: Mike (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 01:21 PM
Lesner just stubbed his toe and can't train so he will be out till July of 2012 but by the time the world will have ended so we wont see Lesner vs Fedor
Posted By: Guest#3854 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 01:56 PM
Fedor and Brock have the same amount of losses stupid fuck
Posted By: Guest#2113 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 05:12 AM
but they dont have the same amount of wins, hahah... you people posting negative stuff about Fedor are for the most part prejudice.. you think because UFC is american owned it is where the real competition is.. haha.. stupid, MMA in the states is a business and not a sport, Brock lesnar because of his drawing power got to be champion look at his record 4-1 or whatever.. he lost his second MMA fight two fights later he was the champion.. please..... Fedor is a better fighter.. period..
Posted By: ChrisVazquez (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 01:58 PM
Fighting is a job to Fedor and nothing else. He wants to get paid. His partnership with M1 Global makes it possible to earn much much more money copromoting cards rather than just getting paid to fight.
It's that simple.
Posted By: plain and simple (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 02:25 PM
wow lol yes i know about fedor beating all sizes but i figured that you guys would know that fighting hong man choi isn't that legit but...i guess i haven't been a mma fan long enough to know how ..great hong man choi is.
And there are alot of options for brock to fight after carwin compared to fedor. Rematch with mir again, nogueria (however u spell that lol), cain, junior dos santos, if cheick kongo can make a come up again, thats 5 ppl that would all be interesting.
Posted By: bullfrog24 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 10:53 AM
So Brock's next opponent after Shane Carwin will be Big Nog (Who Fedor destroyed twice in his prime)???
Wow-UFC really got the better challengers-hahhah
Posted By: Guest#4594 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 02:52 PM
Now I know why Fedor went to Strikeforce, cause Brock woulda killed him.
Posted By: Guest#4164 (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 11:32 PM
Brock lost to Frank Mir.
STFU.
Posted By: Guest#5741 (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Brock also Beat Frank Mir
STFU
Posted By: Guest#1127 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Brock TAPPED, Frank Mir did not.
Quitters are not winners.
As for Fedor-Victim 30-something, I lost count.-Congrats to the GREATEST MMA Fighter of all time.
Posted By: Guest#6514 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 02:54 PM
to: AG Awesome... A Chinguarse, su Pinche Madre, Lesnar-Lover's... = Go Fuck Your Mom, Amantes de Lesnar... there's your translation
Posted By: Fear_Inc. (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 03:33 PM
I thought Fedor looked good, but not great. He was absolutely rocked the punch by Rogers' which bloodied Fedor. Fedor recovered very well and positively destroyed Rogers when he got the chance.
Personally, I would have liked Fedor take Rogers down and work him a bit more (Rogers was gassed towards the end of the first round) but it was an impressive KO.
I am a Brock fan, but I think, at this stage in Brock's career he would have a very tough time with the much more experienced Fedor.
Brock obviously has the size and power (and, perhaps, quickness) advantage, but Fedor is tough and so fundamentally sound in MMA (and not old, like Couture), that he would give Brock fits.
However, Brock is learning quickly and really developing in the few fights he has had.
In one or two years, if Brock is still UFC Champ, and Fedor continues on his uninterrupted path of destruction, that fight will happen and it will be massive.
Fedor's contract with Strikeforce is, I believe, only three fights. So a Brock v. Fedor fight could occur in early 2011.
Posted By: xtomx (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 03:59 PM
Fedor took some punishment in the first round, but kept everything under control definitely. Take away the first jab that busted his nose, and Roger's offense the rest of the round looks to have a way different impact. I don't think Fedor was in any real danger yet, but the nose would have taken its toll on him in a round or two. Good fight, he waited for the opening and won when he saw it.
Posted By: Guest#8764 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 04:04 PM
Now wonder Fedor didn't come to UFC. If he started a fight off with Brock the way he started with Rogers he wouldn't have made it passed 1st-2nd round
Posted By: Guest#9964 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 04:21 PM
Posted By: cap (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 05:46 PM
Not a bad show. I have issues with the way Strikeforce commentary pushes who the "star" of the fight is. For example, saying Sokoudjou "didn't do very well" in the UFC and was "only 3-3 in his last 6 fights". It would make more sense to make it look like your "star" was facing someone credible, rather than like they are fighting a nobody.
Overall a pretty good show. It was nice to see the ref's give the fighters an extended chance to recover, rather than jump in too quickly.
Posted By: Randy M. (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 05:52 PM
CMatt666,
You sound like you are in denial, and do not know much about MMA, as your comments seem like you are lacking expertise.
Fedor's track record in 10 years speaks for itself. He has beaten the BEST fighters in the world-if you do not watch MMA full time, please do not comment.
PRIDE fighters were and still are considered the cream of the crop-those fighters got scattered around and are now in the UFC.
So yes, the fighters that are currently the top guys in UFC fought for the organizations that Fedor RULED.
As for the pro wrestler,
Brock tapped out in his 1st match-and anyone who tapped out ONCE will tap out again, history has proven that!
That is where he loses my respect.
Getting knocked out is one thing-but tapping out of will and admitting loss is pathetic!
Fedor has never tapped-and evidently, never will. He would rather die than TAP.
What makes a Champion is his will to fight and never surrender. Add that to Fedor's incredible win-loss record, ERR WIN RECORD, and you will see why Dana White offfered Fedor sooo much money to fight in the UFC. Brock did not get that amount offered to him for a reason. He had to prove himself. It took him a few fights to do so.
As for his match with Shane Carwin, I am picking Shane-as I don't think Brock will be able to take that famous 1 round KO punch that Shane delivers.
Posted By: RealityCheck (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 01:11 PM
RealityCheck,
I'm not in denial. Fedor has a great track record. But the guy I saw last night would get destroyed in UFC. Especially against Brock. No one has his combination of size, speed, power and wrestling ability. And, as for tapping to Mir, Mazzagatti is the worst ref in MMA. That stand up was crap, and everyone knows it. And, better to tap than lave you knee broken up. We all saw what happened to Mir in fight number 2. Brock beat his face into hamburger. And Fedor wold suffer the same fate.
Oh, and for the record, I've been involved in martial arts since I was 8, and have followed MMA from the first couple of UFCs as well as PRIDE. I also wrestled most of my life. Tapping is not fun, but it leaves you to fight another day. Refusing to submit leads to possible career-ending injury. Fight smart, not stubborn.
Posted By: CMatt666 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 06:12 PM
I am not as experienced with MMA as many of you so please help me figure something out.
When did Brock go from being an entertainer to a mixed martial artist? I scoured old UFC and PRIDE dvds looking for Brock and could not find any fights. I expected to see a young fighter with impressive technique and potential.
I found a couple of fights with Brock who was already in his thirties but this guy had no technique, relied on only wrestling, and was truly without class. The Brock I saw may not be able to beat a fighter with a "puncher's chance" such as Brett Rogers.
Can someone tell me where to find these fights? I mean, I keep reading about this monster named Brock but I must be watching the wrong guy.
I even watched a season of TUF. I am impressed that someone who makes a commitment to actually train seriously for 6 weeks can be the next big thing.
Posted By: Dan C. (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 06:15 PM
Hey Dan C
Perhaps you missed him beat the hell out of Randy Couture, or make Frank Mir look like two-face in his last fight....maybe you missed those?
That's ok if you can get off your knees for Fedor maybe you can watch those fights.
Posted By: Guest#8443 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 07:19 PM
Thank god you're not a judge with the way you scored some of those rounds
Posted By: Guest#4982 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 07:22 PM
Hey Dan C
Perhaps you missed him beat the hell out of Randy Couture, or make Frank Mir look like two-face in his last fight....maybe you missed those?
That's ok if you can get off your knees for Fedor maybe you can watch those fights.
Posted By: Guest#8443 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 07:19 PM
Ironically, both those guys he beat admitted that Fedor is the TOP heavyweight in the world. One is YEARS past his prime-and the other was an unknown until he fought and beat Brock in the 1st match.
VERY IMPRESSIVE INDEED-dont forget he also beat The Undertaker in a steel cage match. But he got beat by Latino Heat Eddie Guerrero in decisive fashion. F Brock-he is a joke and so are his wins.
Posted By: WWEFAN (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 07:35 PM
Much better fear inc.
Posted By: AG Awesome (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 07:46 PM
"Most of the time,this man lets his opponent fight,Coleman took him down,Hunt tried to submit him,Randleman nearly broke his neck,Fujita rocked him,but every one of them ended up losing one minute later."
you are a retard if you think he let's his opponents fight. that's like saying Bobby Flay let's his opponents cook there recipes on Throwdown.... Stop watching highlights on youtube of Fedor.
Posted By: Chewb (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 08:35 PM
"Hey Dan C
Perhaps you missed him beat the hell out of Randy Couture, or make Frank Mir look like two-face in his last fight....maybe you missed those?"
Umm...actually, I thought the Couture fight was pretty darn even until the big TKO. I mean, if you are ONLY counting the last 10 seconds of that fight the, yeah, Lesnar "beat the hell" out of him, but up to that point, the 225 lb Couture was fighting Lesnar tit for tat. The Mir fight was a definite beating, can't argue there.
Still, you are arguing Lesnar's greatness based on him beating Randy who (god bless him, he rules!) has been chased from the heavyweight division before based on being undersized, and based on him beating Frank Mir (admittedly, the first to stop Nog, which is a huge deal) who, 2 fights earlier, was considered washed up. I mean, people have been watching Fedor crush people for 6 years now, beating every kind of opponent. His reputation is not based on pedigree, size, weight, nationality, hair style, homoerotic tattoos or anything else. He goes out, he kicks ass, he go goes home. I don't get why some people feel the need to attack his legacy. You can say he fought a "no one" in Rogers, but he beat him, unlike Koscheck when he fought Thiago, Lesnar when he fought Mir the first time, GSP when he fought Serra, etc. Fedor has never been upset by the underdog, which says a lot about how dedicated he is.
When Lesnar goes 6 years undefeated and cleans out the HW division, then start treating him like he is the be-all-end-all of heavyweights. Until then, he is just a great fighter trying to carve out a legacy.
Posted By: Sasukespecialman (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 08:48 PM
"Brock lost to Frank Mir.
STFU."
Brock was beating the hell out of Mir before he slipped up in his first fight, but why don't you tell me what happened in that next fight. What is it with you children and cussing? You can't make a decent argument, so you stoop to bad language.
Posted By: Guest#8198 (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 09:07 PM
Guest#8443 wrote
"Perhaps you missed him beat the hell out of Randy Couture, or make Frank Mir look like two-face in his last fight....maybe you missed those?"
I saw those matches. In fact I saw the Brock-Mir match 50 times in the schoolyard. Bigger guy puts smaller one in headlock and punches away until the teacher breaks it up. I expect professional fighters with a pedigree to do better than that.
Guest#8443 also wrote
"That's ok if you can get off your knees for Fedor maybe you can watch those fights."
Wrong site. This site is for Mixed Martial Arts. There are thousands of sites where you discuss your other interests.
Posted By: Dan C. (Guest) on November 08, 2009 at 09:11 PM
Damn is Shield's a boring fighter...add lucky to that...Mayhem would have put him to sleep if there where 10 more seconds of the 3:rd round left. I was really impressed by Mayhem in the fight...a rematch would be awesome. Shield's saying Cung Le's afraid of fighting him when he himself is afraid of fighting in the UFC where every middleweight fighter would man-rape him.Some people just like being a big fish in a small pond...
Posted By: Krajton (Guest) on November 09, 2009 at 12:33 PM
I find it funny that people are saying Fedor is "ducking" Brock.
Simple truth is that it's a 60/40 fight in Fedor's favor, but that UFC contracts (not what they pay per fight) are restrictive and badly paid in bottom line total figure compared to what he gets elsewhere.
He's said if UFC matches the cash he can earn in TOTAL for the fight and make the contracts less restrictive he'd do it.
Simply, UFC won't pay/give Fedor a contract as good as he can get elsewhere, because it'll fuck up their business model. (Which is excellent).
Do certain retards get it now?
UFC= Business model based on brand name.
Fedor= Guy on a similar structure to that boxer's get.
White is a smart guy, and will no doubt refuse to bend his business model until he has another couple of years growth to his business and then cut a deal with Fedor.
The reason being is that by then his heavies will be improved and Fedor will have gone backwards.
So then he can probably get a win over Fedor and move to slightly less restrictive contracts at the top end while still growing margins and capatilise on the publicity.
Posted By: Guest#0614 (Guest) on November 09, 2009 at 11:34 PM
