411's UFC 117: Silva vs. Sonnen Report 08.07.10
Posted by Jeremy Lambert on 08.08.2010
Anderson Silva retained his UFC Middleweight Title via a come from behind fifth round submission of Chael Sonnen in the main event of UFC 117! Elsewhere, Jon Fitch defeated Thiago Alves to earn a Welterweight title shot, Matt Hughes submitted Ricardo Almeida in the first round, Junior dos Santos beat Roy Nelson to earn a Heavyweight title shot and much more! Check out 411's complete UFC 117 report for all the details!
UFC 117: Silva vs. Sonnen
From The Oracle Arena in Oakland, California
Live on PPV
*Mike Goldberg and Joe Rogan are the announcers.
*Rogan previews the top fights and Goldberg runs down the rest of the card.
Heavyweight Fight: Roy Nelson (16-4) vs. Junior dos Santos (11-1)
*Nelson is coming off a TKO victory over Stefan Struve at Fight Night 21. Santos is coming off a KO victory over Gabriel Gonzaga at UFC on VS. 1. The winner of this fight will reportedly get a Heavyweight title shot against the Cain Velasquez vs. Brock Lesnar winner.
*Marcos Rosales is the referee.
Round One: Nelson keeping his hands high. Right hand just misses for Nelson. Jab by Santos. Uppercut misses by Santos and Nelson misses with a right. Right hand clips Santos and then Nelson shoots. Nelson pushes Santos against the cage. Nelson controlling the clinch. Santos gets off the cage but Nelson still has control and he muscles him across the ring and against the other side. Santos lands a knee on the break. Jab by Santos. Uppercut by Santos and Nelson is rock. Nelson desperately trying a takedown. Another uppercut. Santos teeing off on Nelson against the cage. Nelson surviving. Another flurry by Santos. Nelson covering but eating bombs. Santos backs off. They trade jabs. Body jab by Santos. Another uppercut by Santos and Nelson is hurt. Nelson tries a takedown but it fails. Knees in the clinch by Santos but Nelson blocks them. Swinging right by Nelson gets Santos to back off. Leg kick by Santos. Body punches by Santos. Jab by Santos. Very stiff jab by Santos. Uppercut again. Knee to the body by Santos. Right hand by Nelson. Another right by Nelson. Nelson coming forward know. Body shots by Santos. They trade jabs. Uppercut again by Santos. Big right hook by Santos. Santos presses forward as the round ends.
Scorecard: 10-9 Santos
Round Two: Knee to the body by Santos. Big right by Nelson and then he shoots for a takedown but Santos shrugs him off. Quick flurry by Santos gets Nelson backing up. Nelson just misses with the right. Santos still looking for the uppercut. Jab by Santos. Left hook by Nelson. Winging right by Nelson misses badly. Nelson still keeping his hands high and blocking well. They trade left hooks. Body shots by Santos. Left hook by Nelson. Santos fires back with a right hook as Nelson moves in. Nelson shoots and pushes Santos against the cage. Nelson working hard for the takdown but Santos stays on his feet. Nelson controlling the clinch against the cage. Santos cut under the right eye. Right hand by Nelson and he drops for a single but Nelson shrugs him off. Santos shoots but Nelson easily sprawls. Both men looking tired. Big body shot by Santos. Big left hook by Santos. Stiff jabs by Santos. Nelson misses with the right and gets tagged with a left hook. Flurry by Santos. Nelson shoots but Santos easily shrugs him off. Nelson eats a counter left as the round ends.
Scorecard: 10-9 Santos
Round Three: Jab by Santos. Body kick by Santos. Right hand by Nelson clips Santos. Another right by Nelson. Santos comes back with a big flurry. Push kick to the face by Santos. Big uppercut by Santos. Left hook to the body by Santos. Elbows by Santos now. Santos with a combo and then shoots for a single. He gets Nelson down and then pretty much lets him up. Back on the feet. Another combo by Santos. More body shots by Santos. Over the top right by Nelson. Stiff jab by Santos. Santos continuing to pick apart Nelson but can't put him away. Knee to the body by Santos. Leg kick by Nelson. Right by Nelson but nothing behind it. Big right hands by Santos. Santos continues to land the uppercut at will. Knee by Santos as Nelson ducks in. Big right by Santos. Santos grabs the plum clinch and Nelson lands a right over the top. Body shots by Santos. Knee to the body by Santos. Right hand by Santos. Nelson comes back with a right. Uppercut by Nelson. Santos presses forward with a flurry as the round ends.
Scorecard: 10-9 Santos
Official Decision: Junior dos Santos by Unanimous Decision (20-36, 30-27, 30-27)
*Santos says that Nelson is tough. Says he will be ready to fight Lesnar or Velasquez.
*Rogan interviews Randy Couture, who fights James Toney at UFC 118. He talks about the boxing vs. MMA argument and fighting a boxer. Says he doesn't take Toney's trash talk personally. Says he will find away to put Toney on his back. Says more athletes from more sports will be trying MMA. "Takedown and pound him out"
Welterweight Fight: Ricardo Almeida (12-3) vs. Matt Hughes (44-7)
*Almeida is coming off a submission victory over Matt Brown at UFC 111. Hughes is coming off a TKO victory over Renzo Gracie at UFC 112.
*Josh Rosenthal is the referee.
Round One: Hughes looked like he caught a finger to the eye but wipes it off. Both men trying to find the range early. Almeida using the inside leg kick. Head kick by Almeida is blocked. Leg kick by Hughes but Almeida answers with a right. Hughes clinches and eats a right before breaking. A lot of movement by Almeida. Quick flurry by Almeida and then he shrugs off the clinch. Body shots by Almeida. Left hook clips Almeida and drops him. Almeida tries to get up. HUGHES GRABS A FRONT HEAD LOCK. ALMEIDA IS OUT~!
Official Decision: Matt Hughes by Submission (Front Head Lock) at 3:15 in Round One
*"I'm happy to beat a good brazilian (grappler) with a good wrestling move." Says he's going to take the fall off, doing some hunting, and he'll be back next year.
Lightweight Fight: Rafael dos Anjos (14-4) vs. Clay Guida (28-11)
*Anjos is coming off a submission victory over Terry Etim at UFC 112. Guida is coming off a submission victory over Shannon Gugerty at UFC on VS. 1.
*Herb Dean is the referee.
Round One: Anjos comes out southpaw. Right hand by Guida as Anjos misses with an uppecut. Head kick by Guida but Anjos eats it. Anjos misses with a couple of combos. Leg kick by Anjos. Right hand by Guida rocks Anjos and gets him to stumble back. Leg kick by Anjos. Anjos shoots but Guida stuffs it. Guida reverses the clinch and drops from his own takedown. Anjos looks likes he's trying to grab a guillotine but Guida has an arm in. Guida pulls his head out and has a single. Anjos manages to stay on his feet as Guida continues to work for the takedown. Anjos pushes Guida away and lands a knee. Anjos presses forward but doesn't land clean. Right hand by Anjos. Anjos shoots but Guida stuffs it. Head kick by Anjos but Guida blocks it. Anjos continuing to land the inside leg kick. Big uppercut by Anjos. Anjos shoots and gets a takedown. Guida seated against the cage. Right hand by Anjos as Guida gets up followd by a knee. The round ends.
Scorecard: 10-9 Anjos
Round Two: Guida presses forward but misses. Anjos trying to counter. Left hook by Guida. A lot of movement by Guida in this round. Body kick by Anjos. Anjos shoots but Guida stuffs it. Anjos controlling the clinch against the cage. Guida shrugs him away. Left hook by Guida. Anjos covering weel. Quick exchange by both men. Anjos throwing a lot of kicks but missing. Uppercut by Guida. Guida shoots and gets the takedown. Guida in guard as he slips away from an omoplata. Guida passes to half guard but Anjos regains full guard. Anjos controlling the posture of Guida. Guida slips to half guard. Body shots by Guida. Guida appears to be cut. Guida trying to set up a arm triangle but Anjos blocks it and regains full guard. The round ends.
Scorecard: 10-9 Guida
Round Three: Guida pressing forward. Counter left by Anjos but Guida fires back. Guida continues to presses forward and throw but nothing landing clean. Body kick by Anjos. Guida shoots but Anjos stuffs it at first. BIG TAKEDOWN BY GUIDA! Right into half guard. Knees to the body by Guida. Guida trying to lock up an arm triangle from half guard. Body shots by Guida. ANJOS TAPS!
*It seems like Anjos tapped out from an injury, which is believed to be a broken jaw.
Official Decision: Clay Guida by Submission (Injury) at 1:53 in Round Three
*Guida says in here there to win, not hurt his opponent so he apologizes to Anjos. Says Greg Jackson will make him a champion.
*Rogan interviews James Toney. Toney says he's a two sport athlete and wanted to fight MMA when Dana White says MMA is better than boxers. "As soon as I touch him, he's going to sleep."
Heavyweight Fight (Prelim): Stefan Struve vs. Christian Morecraft
Round One: Morecraft presses forward and clinches. Morecraft controlling the clinch and drags Struve to the ground, right into side control. Struve tries to scramble but Struve stays with him. Struve it able to regain full guard. Morecraft stands in the guard of Struve and is dropping heavy punches. Struve throws up a triangle and uses it to roll Morecraft over but he slips out and gets right back in Struve's guard. Struve tries a guillotine but Morecraft pulls out. Hammerfists by Morecraft. Big punches by Morecraft from the guard. Struve tries for another triangle but Morecraft postures out. More big hammerfists by Morecraft. Struve trying to roll but can't escape. Morecraft again postures in the guard and throws down heavy punches. The ref keeping a close eye on it. Struve has a busted lip. Morecraft passes to side control and right into mount. Struve tries to roll him but can't. Big hammerfists by Morecraft. Struve goes for a leg lock but Morecraft pulls out. Struve tries to scramble up but Morecraft locks in a guillotine. Struve stands with Morecraft still having the choke. Morecraft drags him down and is back on top throwing punches. The round ends.
Scorecard: 10-8 Morecraft
Round Two: Leg kick by Struve. Morecraft presses forward and clinches. BOTH MEN THROWING HEAVY PUNCHES! STRUVE WITH A BIG COMBO ON MORECRAFT! MORECRAFT IS DOWN! STRUVE POUNDS HIM OUT AND THE REF STOPS IT!
Official Decision: Stefan Struve by TKO (Punches) at 0:22 in Round Two
*Struve very happy with the victory. Says he finishes fights.
Welterweight Fight: Thiago Alves (16-6) vs. Jon Fitch (22-3 1 NC)
*Alves is coming off a unanimous decision loss to Georges St. Pierre at UFC 100. That fight was for the Welterweight title. Fitch is coming off a unanimous decision victory over Ben Saunders at UFC 111. This fight was originally scheduled for UFC 111 but Alves had to pull out with irregular brain activity. Alves missed weight by .5 pound and had to forfeit 20% of his purse to Fitch. Fitch holds a 2006 TKO victory over Alves. The winner of this fight will reportedly get a Welterweight title shot against the St. Pierre vs. Josh Koscheck winner.
*Herb Dean is the referee.
*Clean staredown with a glove touch.
Round One: Right hand by Fitch after he slips the jab. Inside leg kick jab combo by Alves. Alves blocks a head kick and fires back with a two punch combo. Leg kick by Alves is caught by Fitch. Fitch slips behind the back of Alves and slams him down. Fitch on the back of Alves with over under control but no hooks. Fitch gets one hook in. Alves stands with Fitch still on his back. Knees to the thighs by Fitch. Fitch drags him back down but lost back control. Alves uses the cage to get up but Fitch drags him right back down and into side control. Alves gets his arm under Fitch and sweeps him over and into guard. Alves moves to half guard. Fitch regains guard. Alves backs off and lets Fitch up. Quick combo by Fitch. Fitch grabs the plum clinch and lands a knee before breaking. Right hand by Alves. Body shot by Fitch. Another body shot by Fitch. Fitch moving very well. Alves stuffs a takedown attempt. They clinch. Fitch gets a takedown. Fitch tries to slip to the back as the round ends.
Scorecard: 10-9 Fitch
Round Two: Inside leg kick by Fitch. Right hand by Fitch as Alves throws a leg kick. Fitch slips an uppercut and gets a takedown right into guard. Body shots by Fitch. Alves tries to push him away and scramble up but Fitch keeps him grounded. Alves is seated against the cage. Alves pushes him away but Fitch still has a single and drags him back down. Alves gets guard. Fitch slips behind Alves and gets his back as Alves tries to stand. Fitch drags him back down and Alves hips to half guard. Alves tries to push Fitch away again but Fitch stays on him. Alves gets to hit feet but Fitch has a single and drags him down. Alves gets back up but Fitch slips behind to his back and drags him down. Fitch has over under but no hooks. Alves reverses it and has a front head lock. Alves backs off and lets Fitch up. Quick combo by Alves. Alves blocks a head kick. They clinch as the round ends.
Scorecard: 10-9 Fitch
Round Three: Quick exchange but nothing clean. Leg kick by Fitch. Alves answers. Quick flurry by Fitch. Knee to the body by Fitch in the clinch. They trade uppercuts. Head kick by Alves. Fitch shoots but Alves sprawls. Fitch tries another takedown but Alves shrugs it off again. Uppercut by Alves but Fitch slips it, grabs the body of Alves, slips to the back and drags Alves down. Fitch gets one hook in. Alves turns but Fitch has mount and locks on a body triangle. Fitch has the back with the body triangle. Punches by Fitch to soften Alves up. Fitch looking for an arm triangle as Alves turns. Fitch still has the body triangle. Alves rolls and ends up on top in the guard of Fitch. Fitch still has the body triangle. Fitch gives up on it and Alves is in his guard. Fitch pushes Alves away and gets to his feet. Alves pressing forward as the round ends.
Scorecard: 10-9 Fitch
Official Decision: Jon Fitch by Unanimous Decision (30-27, 30-27, 30-27)
*Sonnen is coming off a unanimous decision victory over Nate Marquardt at UFC 109. Silva is coming off a unanimous decision victory over Demian Maia at UFC 112. Silva is undefeated in the UFC with 11 straight victories. Silva has defended the Middleweight title six straight times.
*Josh Rosenthal is the referee.
*Clean staredown with a glove touch and a bow from Silva.
Round One: Sonnen comes forward and Silva connects with punches. Both in southpaw. Body kick caught by Silva. Sonnen shoots but Silva voids. Jab by Silva. Silva switching stances. Silva ctahes a leg kick sand Sonnen rolls out. SONNEN ROCKS SILVA! Uppercut by Sonnen. Another right by Sonnen. Jab by Silva. Silva with a takedown but Sonnen back up. Another right by Sonnen. Sonnen with a big two punch combo. Silva with his hands down. Sonnen gets the takedown. Sonne gets half guard. Sonne with short left hands. Big right by Sonnen. Silva trying to get up but Sonnen slips to his back. Short punches by Sonnen. Silva tries to roll to guard and succeeds. Sonnen in guard and pounding away. Big right hand by Sonnen as he postures up. Sonnen in half guard and has Silva's arm pinned. Silva regains guard. Sonnen postures and throws down. Big flurry by Sonnen. Another big flurry by Silva and Sonnen moves to side control. Silva regains guard. Another quick flurry by Sonnen on the ground. The round ends.
Scorecard: 10-8 Sonnen
Round Two: Right by Sonnen. Leg kick by Silva. Silva tries a jumping body kick but Sonnen catches it and gets a takedown. Elbows from the bottom by Silva. Sonnen passes to half guard. "USA" chants. Silva controlling the posture of Sonnen. Sonnen boxes the ears of Silva. Shoulder thrusts by Sonnen. Silva regains guard. Left hand by Sonnen. Grazing hammerfists by Sonnen. Flurry by Sonnen on the ground. Silva throwing nice elbows from the bottom. Sonnen postured in the guard of Silva. Elbows by Sonnen. Silva tries an armbar but Sonnen postures out. Big punches by Sonnen. Silva looks for a triangle but Sonnen gets his arm in. Flurry on the ground by Sonnen. Elbows by Sonnen. Silva tries to use the cage to walk up but Sonnen slips to the back. Silva looks for a kimura but Sonnen pulls out. Sonnen stays on top and lands a left as the round ends.
Scorecard: 10-9 Sonnen
Round Three: Right hand by Silva. Silva moving around. Spinning back kick by Silva. Sonnen shoots and gets the takedown. Silva tries to work for a kimura but Sonnen slips to his back. Knees to the thighs by Sonnen. Short punches by Sonnen. Sonnen continues to pound away on Silva but not too heavy. Silva rolls into guard. Sonnen continuing to grind on Silva. Short elbows by Sonnen. Silva locks on a body triangle from the bottom. Body shots by Sonnen. Sonnen continues to grind away on Silva. Silva trying to control the posture but Sonnen stays busy with strikes. Elbows from the bottom by Silva. The round ends.
Scorecard: 10-9 Sonnen
Round Four: Left by Silva. Body kick by Silva. Elbow by Silva drops Sonnen. Silva pouring it on with strikes. Sonnen trying to fire back. Sonnen with a takedown attempt but Silva stuffs it and ends up on top and in half guard. Sonnen powers him over and ends up in guard. Right hands by Sonnen. Silva trying to control the posture. Body shots by Sonnen. Elbows from the bottom by Silva. Sonnen continues to grind away. Elbows from Silva. Body shots by Sonnen. Right hands by Sonnen. Sonnen is cut. Body shots by Sonnen. The round ends.
Scorecard: 10-9 Sonnen
Round Five: Right by Sonnen. Silva stuffs a takedown. Right by Sonnen causes Silva to wobble and slip. Sonnen on top and in guard. Sonnen passes to half gaurd and moves to side control. Sonnen tries an arm triangle but Silva escapes and regains guard. Sonnen pounding away and ends up in side control. Silva regains guard again. Hammerfists by Sonnen. Sonnen continues to grind away. Body shots by Sonnen. SILVA THROWS UP A TRIANGLE. HE SWITCHES TO AN ARMBAR! SONNEN TAPS!
*Sonnen only tapped once and complains about the stoppage but he definitely tapped out.
Official Decision: STILL UFC MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPION - Anderson Silva by Submission (Triangle/Armbar) at 3:10 in Round Five
*Silva embraces Sonnen after the fight.
*Crowd is booing Silva during his interview. Silva says Sonnen fought a hell of a fight. Silva says he hurt his ribs and the doctor asked him not to fight but he did it for the fans. "NOGUEIRA BROTHERS! JIU-JITSU!" followed by a big smile by Silva.
*The crowd boos Sonnen. Sonnen says he came up short. Says he got the silver medal tonight and will go back to re-evaluate things.
For someone who "needs" to speak through a translator Silva's english is suprisingly good.
Posted By: Hmmmm.... (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:29 AM
Now THAT's a UFC championship fight.
Posted By: Jim Rome (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:30 AM
I have seen just about every UFC PPV since 100 and if I'd never seen any before tonight, Silva VS Sonnen would have made me a fan. Silva deserves all the credit in the world and is rightfully the Champion...and I need to work on my picks. Good job to those who picked Dos Santos and Silva.
Wow, what a war.
Posted By: Mark Radulich (Registered) on August 08, 2010 at 01:31 AM
Sonnen was robbed!
Rematch needs to happen before the end of the year!
Posted By: Guest#7960 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:33 AM
Great card. I know it was only a prelim, but did anyone else think that Struve kicked Morecraft during the 2nd round handshake?
Posted By: greatgama (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:36 AM
Jesus didn't tap and neither did Sonnen. I hold true that it looked like Sonnen was shaking his hand out from some sort of stinger after being put in the triangle and brushed Silva's leg. That why he looked so stunned they actually called it. There needs to be a more definitive way of tapping...like you must to it 2-3 times in succession.
Complete. Fucking. Hosejob.
Posted By: JC (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:39 AM
For someone who "needs" to speak through a translator Silva's english is suprisingly good.
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No, his English isn't that good. He learned how to say a basic victory speach, and thats probably it. He can't do interviews, or answer any questions without his translator.
Posted By: Jordan (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:47 AM
Sonnen tapped!! He wasn't shaking anything, he clearly tapped 2-3 times. he admitted as much in his post-fight interview.
Posted By: Guest#6785 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:48 AM
You guys are idiots, he tapped more than once on his leg. Chael didn't even deny tapping.
Posted By: Guest#4925 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:53 AM
anyone who knows wrestling the only way to get out of that choke is to sit on your ass and throw your leggs forward. that is exactly what chael did... i think the tap was to let silva know that it was a nice try. so quick to call the fight, i thought you had to tap 3 times...
Posted By: sonnenfan (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:53 AM
If he didn't mean to tap he would have said so. He said it himself that he just came up short. Silva is still the greatest.
Posted By: hhhh (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:55 AM
Sonnen kicked Silva all night - but the Champ took the beating (although you would think it was the other way round by looking at Sonnen's battered mug!) - and Silva's BJJ came through to beat Sonnen's Grecko Roman Wrestling. So Sonnen, who said pre-fight that Silva got his black belt from a cereal box, was tapped out by that very same Fruit Loops black belt??? Yah. Sonnen ain't got the skillz to beat the MMA (MIXED martial arts) Middleweight champ of the world! Aint no fluke. Thats MMA.
Posted By: yap (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:56 AM
Sonnen tapped. And he tapped more then once, he just didnt hit the leg on the other ones. I for one am glad too. i can't stand his style. And i actually enjoy St. Pierre and Lesnar, they try and finish the fight at least. Sonnen just tries to do the bare minimum to have it not be stood up.
Posted By: Guest#0640 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:57 AM
anyone who knows wrestling the only way to get out of that choke is to sit on your ass and throw your leggs forward. that is exactly what chael did... i think the tap was to let silva know that it was a nice try. so quick to call the fight, i thought you had to tap 3 times...
Posted By: sonnenfan (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 02:01 AM
Jesus didn't tap and neither did Sonnen. I hold true that it looked like Sonnen was shaking his hand out from some sort of stinger after being put in the triangle and brushed Silva's leg. That why he looked so stunned they actually called it. There needs to be a more definitive way of tapping...like you must to it 2-3 times in succession.
Complete. Fucking. Hosejob.
Posted By: JC (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:39 AM
I was there live, at first it looked like Sonnen got out of it, and everybody was like WTF, then on the replay you could see him tap on Silvas thigh a couple of times. I mean it was crazy Sonnen, booed all the way up until he started kicking Silvas ass then, after the fight it was mixed for both of them. I'm really confused on the whole switching sides thing that damn quick. Yeah I like Silva because he kicks ass but he was getting boring in his last few fights, Sonnen who said he was going to bring it gets booed, brings it in the fight gets cheered then afterwards its a mixture of the crowd again. Dude should have everybodys respect after that fight.
Posted By: midcard (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 02:01 AM
Jesus didn't tap and neither did Sonnen. I hold true that it looked like Sonnen was shaking his hand out from some sort of stinger after being put in the triangle and brushed Silva's leg. That why he looked so stunned they actually called it. There needs to be a more definitive way of tapping...like you must to it 2-3 times in succession.
Complete. Fucking. Hosejob.
Posted By: JC (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:39 AM
I was there live, at first it looked like Sonnen got out of it, and everybody was like WTF, then on the replay you could see him tap on Silvas thigh a couple of times. I mean it was crazy Sonnen, booed all the way up until he started kicking Silvas ass then, after the fight it was mixed for both of them. I'm really confused on the whole switching sides thing that damn quick. Yeah I like Silva because he kicks ass but he was getting boring in his last few fights, Sonnen who said he was going to bring it gets booed, brings it in the fight gets cheered then afterwards its a mixture of the crowd again. Dude should have everybodys respect after that fight.
Posted By: midcard (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 02:03 AM
Jesus didn't tap and neither did Sonnen. I hold true that it looked like Sonnen was shaking his hand out from some sort of stinger after being put in the triangle and brushed Silva's leg. That why he looked so stunned they actually called it. There needs to be a more definitive way of tapping...like you must to it 2-3 times in succession.
Complete. Fucking. Hosejob.
Posted By: JC (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:39 AM
Completely wrong. He tapped, he knew he tapped. Sure, he changed his mind after he tapped and decided to keep going for it, but he almost tapped a couple times (the shaking as you call it) and then clearly tapped the leg once.
Posted By: Cyco (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 02:07 AM
He tapped. Silva didn't take it seriously though and held on anyway, Sonnen was not going to get away with the fake tap. He pulled the same thing against Filiho, Sonnen has a history of fake tapping and trying to get away with it.
All the respect I got for Sonnen for 4 and a half rounds got erased from his fake tap bullshit. I think he should be cut. Silva was obviously injured or otherwise off anyway, Sonnen would get killed in a rematch. And a fake tap won't save you when you're unconscious.
Posted By: Guest#6509 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 02:12 AM
Silva's "I was hurt" line sounds a lot like bullshit.
Posted By: Huh (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 02:13 AM
Jesus didn't tap and neither did Sonnen. I hold true that it looked like Sonnen was shaking his hand out from some sort of stinger after being put in the triangle and brushed Silva's leg. That why he looked so stunned they actually called it. There needs to be a more definitive way of tapping...like you must to it 2-3 times in succession.
Complete. Fucking. Hosejob.
Posted By: JC (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:39 AM
you are fucking retarded if u actually believe or think sonnen didnt tap
Posted By: wylun (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 02:14 AM
He tapped no quetion about it. When the announcers say you tap even dana white says you tap it means you tap. He tap he knows he tap. So jc the story is sonnen tapped
Posted By: deuce (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 02:17 AM
uhmm yeah, sonnen admitted it was a tap. it was the same way fedor tapped to werdum's triangle. one degected tap on the leg. the problem was Rosenthal second guessing himself and not seperating them quicker. Silva was still cranking the armbar because of the confusion. would have been a horrible way for Chael's arm to get broken
Posted By: condrab (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 02:17 AM
fuckin sonnen had it in the bag i don't know about you guys but if i was him i would have gave silva a taste of his own medicine and ran, taunted and dance all round 5 until the time ran out so he can see what its like to be beating up and disrespected by your opponent
Posted By: Guest#7319 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 02:37 AM
quit fucking making excuses, watch the replay. Sonnen tapped like a bitch.
Posted By: Guest#6007 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 02:38 AM
Jesus didn't tap and neither did Sonnen. I hold true that it looked like Sonnen was shaking his hand out from some sort of stinger after being put in the triangle and brushed Silva's leg. That why he looked so stunned they actually called it. There needs to be a more definitive way of tapping...like you must to it 2-3 times in succession.
Complete. Fucking. Hosejob.
Posted By: JC (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:39 AM
Soonen taped!! He lost get over it, he gave a Fedor one tap of shame, he new he was done but had to much pride to tap multiple times, he would have gone to sleep anyway...WAR SILVA!!!
Posted By: Monkey Pie (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 02:49 AM
CSonnen had that fight but didnt close it out. Oh well it was a great fight.
Posted By: TheR (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 02:54 AM
I hope all the twats who said Sonnen had no chance prior to this fight are eating some humble pie tonight. I know I am - I've always maintained that I was pulling for Sonnen to win, but I honestly believed he had little chance to do so. Not only did this fight solidify Sonnen as one of my favorite fighters, it also should've solidified GSP as the P4P king. Silva looked mortal tonight, and if not the for Hail Mary submission, would've lost his title in a decision that was nowhere near as close as Forrest/Rampage or Penn/Edgar.
Posted By: Wyatt Beougher (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 03:00 AM
Great card. I know it was only a prelim, but did anyone else think that Struve kicked Morecraft during the 2nd round handshake?
Posted By: greatgama (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:36 AM
agreed.
Posted By: TimTizzie (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 03:10 AM
" Silva deserves all the credit in the world and is rightfully the Champion...and I need to work on my picks. Good job to those who picked Dos Santos and Silva.
Wow, what a war.
Posted By: Mark Radulich (Registered) on August 08, 2010 at 01:31 AM"
Most...Ridiculous And Biased Post....EVER
Silva did NOTHING for Four Rounds and a HALF....
Sonnnen destroyed, mauled, ragdolled him like a little chihuahua in the hands of a bulldog IMO.
IF someone made both the pre fight and the fight himself EXCITING to watch and deserves all the props in the world for destroying 10-8 for four consecutive rounds the so called and ultra overrated "best fighter in the world" it's Chael Sonnen and NO ONE ELSE.
HE MADE this fight via a total dominant performance and he also gave the win to Silva on a golden plate via giving him his arms to lock the sub (something NO ONE should ever do against a Black BJJ IMO).
Anderson Silva is the worse of all the current UFC Champion, he is the most boring, disrespectful and arrogant of them all.
People bash Brock Lesnar but he backs it up inside the octagon by destroying the opposition, no matter what has been thrown at him.
Shogun is super exciting to watch and his demolition of Machida on two different occasions was GLORIOUS.
GSP is the best wrestler in the world not named Brock Lesnar and is a credible, totally dominant champion, who rarely loses a round at all.
Tonight Silva got EXPOSED BIG TIME by a guy who was 26-10 and already tapped SIX Times to guys supposedly vastly inferior to him.
If Silva was THAT Good he would have DOMINATED Sonnen from start to finish and would have made him tapping out on his own at ROUND 1 or 2.
He got OUTWRESTLED and totally SCHOOLED and can thank the sky Sonnen is no GSP or Shields when it comes to secure the win via his superior wrestling during the five WHOLE Rounds IMO.
GSP and Shields would school Silva BIG TIME.
Big MAD PROPS to CHAEL SONNEN for reviving the most dead and boring division in the whole UFC since Silva arrived.
He IS The real winner of this fight and will get his rematch soon IMO.
Posted By: Sonnen >>>> Silva (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 03:12 AM
JC you're an idiot. Sonnen tapped, end of the fight. No excuses, he just simply did not have the ability to finish Silvia and got caught.
Posted By: John (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 03:37 AM
JC you're an idiot. Sonnen tapped, end of the fight. No excuses, he just simply did not have the ability to finish Silvia and got caught.
Posted By: John (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 03:38 AM
JC you're an idiot. Sonnen tapped, end of the fight. No excuses, he just simply did not have the ability to finish Silvia and got caught.
Posted By: John (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 03:39 AM
Hose job?! Sissy geeks who have never been in fight other than on War Craft can't imagine the pain of being hit, let alone choked out...and bullying in school doesn't count! Silva could have broke his arm if Sonnen didn't tap. And Sonnen didn't want to tap, but did so reluctantly, and Silva easing up after the tap is why Sonnen was able to get up and look puzzled. I would too if I was minutes away from being the champ and I f'd it up.
Posted By: Hip Hop Jorge (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 03:44 AM
Josh Rosenthal has fucked up two championship belts in a row now. That was in no way a tap. Watch it again, it makes no sense to tap at that point, it wasn't on tight enough then, and it's obvious. Screw the UFC.
Posted By: Guest#3844 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 03:45 AM
Yeah he brushed Silva's leg. You're an idiot. He clearly slapped Silva's thigh. He either was going to tap or lose an arm.
Posted By: Guest#6381 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 03:52 AM
Great main event. He tapped, pure and simple. Plus if he didn't he was going to get his elbow snapped off.
Posted By: Pokey (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 04:06 AM
Looked like a tap to me. I just watched the video and it look like he taps out.
Posted By: Kyle (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 04:27 AM
I agree. Tapping should have more definitive rules.. I've seen way too many fights where guys claimed they didn't tap out. Easy fix such as multiple taps would clear a lot of fight results up and leave fans feeling satisfied with the results of a fight.
Posted By: Slim T (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 05:32 AM
He tapped. He tapped only to realize that "oh I got my legs through" plus the replay showed he clearly did. He also knew he did that's why you didn't hear him complaining when he was on the mic w/ Joe Rogan. That's why it's the Championship Rounds.
Posted By: X (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 06:15 AM
Jesus didn't tap and neither did Sonnen. I hold true that it looked like Sonnen was shaking his hand out from some sort of stinger after being put in the triangle and brushed Silva's leg. That why he looked so stunned they actually called it. There needs to be a more definitive way of tapping...like you must to it 2-3 times in succession.
Complete. Fucking. Hosejob.
Posted By: JC (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:39 AM
He tapped, he admitted he tapped after the fight was over and the only problem was that Silva didn't feel him tap and didn't understand why the ref was pulling them apart.
After all the over-the-top abuse Sonnen hurled - specially all that 'Brazil is a country of thieves' racist crap he spouted - to see him lose in they way he did after dominating for so long it was the most hilarious thing I've ever seen in combat sports.
Couldn't of happened to a bigger douchebag.
Posted By: Splatt (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 07:05 AM
Silva never would have won if Sonnen didnt posture up while in Silvas guard. Sonnen should have given Silva a taste of his own medicine and danced around Silva in round five. Good fight from Sonnen. Silva looked like shit hes lucky Sonnen got careless and handed him that win.
Posted By: guest520 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 07:08 AM
If sonnen didn't tap he would've said so in the post fight interview. Get off his nuts.
Posted By: fax (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 07:17 AM
sonnen didnt get robbed. he admitted he tapped.
Posted By: jd (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 08:20 AM
No JC, I wanted Sonnen to win but he did tap. Don't you think he would have said something in the post fight interview and press conference if he didn't.
Posted By: Guest#0389 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 08:28 AM
Why did those redneck moron fans boo? Reminds me of the movie BRUNO. They would fit in well...
Posted By: AG Awesome (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 08:37 AM
Wow. Best UFC PPV in years.
Not sure how people can seriously think a guy who tapped out was robbed...
Posted By: Guest#8960 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 08:39 AM
lol, if he didn't tap he wouldn't of said he came up short.
Posted By: kevin (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 08:41 AM
Now I know what it felt like to watch Ali fight all those years ago.We are witnessing something very special.ANDERSON SILVA IS THA GREATEST!
Posted By: SmashAdams (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 08:51 AM
"Great card. I know it was only a prelim, but did anyone else think that Struve kicked Morecraft during the 2nd round handshake?
Posted By: greatgama (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:36 AM"
I thought the exact same thing
Posted By: Flying Dutchman (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 08:53 AM
Andy got exposed with a good ole fashioned ass kicking. Never be the same. Sonned walked the walk.
Posted By: Randy Bridges (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 08:54 AM
Some of you need to purchase new glasses, the man tapped, end of story.
Yea yea i know, you want to a see Anderson lose so you can run your goddamn mouth on the interwebs how you predicted right and won 2 million dollars, but Sonnen was the better fighter.
He still tapped and got caught, there is no controversy, nobody in the UFC apart from the internet fans, the cesspool ofcourse, disagree just to run their mouths.
Your boy lost, at least you now know that Anderson isent invincible and that he isent above and beyond his own weightclass in the UFC, a rematch should be in the making.
Posted By: Nightz (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 08:59 AM
Chael Sonnen is my hero!
Posted By: Guest#8555 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 09:03 AM
Silvia was doing a Mohammed Ali fight strategy!!! he was wating for the right moment to sting like the bee, he took a beating like no one but he was hurting sonnen, silvia could end up the fight easly in a stand up insted of being taked down by sonnen,Sonnen is very very good but silvia is great simple as this. love to see a Rematch.
Thiago Alvice is wasting time thats it. Roy Nelson is fucking crazy he is so great to watch!!!dos santos was almost going to get a KO from Roy..niccceeee fight...Guida is rockstar..damn that guy how much he take a beting but still a win ...good fighter...
Posted By: K (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 09:06 AM
I love seeing 'Jesus Didn't Tap' in the ring. Of coarse he didn't, it was physically impossible. If you read the Bible you could argue that he verbally tapped. God and cage fighting, it's a winning combination.
Posted By: jacob (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 09:40 AM
GSP P4P best fighter in the world? oh yes!
Posted By: Mike "The Show" Harris (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 09:59 AM
Really impressed with Roy Nelson's chin. He was taking some bombs with the best pure striker in the division and kept pressing forward. Looked really good in that loss. JDS didn't show me anything that would lead me to believe he could handle a fighter like Lesnar or Cain, but he is definitely a top flight UFC Heavyweight.
Very interesting finishes for Hughes and Guida. You would have thought those two were the ones in danger of being submitted in their fights. Hughes is in a really interesting spot in the division now. He isn't at the top, but he is clearly more than a gatekeeper. I would like to see him fight Jon Fitch next.
I know Fitch won a title shot, but has their even been a more anti-climatic rematch than him vs GSP 2? GSP dominated him for five rounds. Does anyone buy that Fitch could finish the fight, or improve enough to take three rounds? I don't.
Jon Fitch is brutal to watch. He has been endlessly protected in his matchups within the UFC for some reason. He constantly gets matched up with guys he can take down and ride out for 15 minutes. He takes down these terrible wrestlers and then just holds their arms for 3-4 minutes of a round. Sure, he "wins". It's just too obvious that he is fighting not to lose rather than win. Never advances position, never looks to finish.
The main event was surprising to say the least. Sonnen controlled the fight for 4 1/2 rounds, and looked to be cruising to a victory. It seemed like Silva was biding his time the entire fight, just waiting on Sonnen to slip up. And boy did he slip up. There is no doubt he tapped out, and there is also no doubt that he controlled Silva for 90% of the fight. Unfortunately for him, a portion of the 10% he didn't control involved him get hung up and submitted.
If the next step for Silva is Belfort, I wonder who Sonnen gets matched up with after such a solid performance on a massive stage. Sonnen/Leben? Sonnen/Belcher? Sonnen/Maia 2?
Overall 117 was a really solid event. Not as amazing as 116, but after a string of lackluster PPVs, the last two have been fantastic.
Posted By: Guest#5581 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 10:07 AM
Some of you are laughable. Silva just earned the respect of every MMA fan in my book. People moaned after his last fight, yet he came out here and took a beating at times and still won. He didn't look anywhere near his best, yet Sonnen looked at his best and still couldn't finish Silva.
Silva proved again why he's the best fighter in MMA. Next up is Vitor, which will be a much better fight because it wont consist of somebody trying to grind out a win for five rounds against Silva, it'll be a PROPER war. Sonnen can get his rematch down the line, where he'll just lose again.
Silva, officialy the best fighter on the planet and there was proof tonight. Took the best of Sonnen and still walked out the winner...and ya do know that.
Posted By: SummerBreeze77 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 10:22 AM
tapping the way he did was the best career move for sonnen.
think about it, you're about to be submitted, what do you do? tap in a controversial way so that fans are frothing at the mouth for a rematch.
makes a silva fight an actual big draw, dana would love it.
but yeah he tapped. all talk about the damage silva took in previous rounds i answer with this: he took all that from sonnen and still couldn't be put away.
Posted By: Guest#1769 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 10:25 AM
Big MAD PROPS to CHAEL SONNEN for reviving the most dead and boring division in the whole UFC since Silva arrived.
He IS The real winner of this fight and will get his rematch soon IMO.
Posted By: Sonnen >>>> Silva (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 03:12 AM
My challenge to you sir is have a man sit on you for 23 minutes while punching you in the face and torso and a) not give up b) have the wherewithal and talent to grap a hold of limb and pull your opponent into a submission.
Just because your mad at Silva doesn't mean he didn't deserve to win. He sustained 23 minutes of the best Sonnen had to offer and in the end he found a way to win.
I wanted Sonnen to win too and he came close. But he lost. He lives to fight another day. Get a hold of yourself, try therapy.
Posted By: Mark Radulich (Registered) on August 08, 2010 at 10:32 AM
All you Silva fans singing his praises need to go back and re-watch that fight.
The "greatest fighter in the world" got his ass beat for 23 minutes straight.
Yeah, Sonnen made a mistake and Silva got the submission, but in no way can you take that as evidence of how "great" Silva is. He got lucky, plain and simple.
Silva was 100% exposed last night. There is no way any of you can argue otherwise. He was dominated in every phase of the game for 23 minutes by a guy no one said had a chance to make it out of the first round!
I still don't see how people cheer for him after the disgraceful performances he's put on recently. The only reason this fight was good was because of Chael Sonnen. If you think about it, Silva didn't really fight in this one, either - he was just on his back instead of dancing around.
Forget Belfort - there should be an immediate rematch for Sonnen.
Posted By: JeremyL (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 10:58 AM
Boring wrestlers have to grind out the whole match to win, proper fighters finish within the time! :D (I'm ignoring Silvas recent bore score finishes obv)
Posted By: Wow (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 11:16 AM
Silva, officialy the best fighter on the planet and there was proof tonight. Took the best of Sonnen and still walked out the winner...and ya do know that.
Posted By: SummerBreeze77 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 10:22 AM
You're retarded if you think Silva is the best fighter on the planet.
He got dominated for four rounds and even got rocked. GSP will wipe the floor with him.
Posted By: Guest#9298 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 11:28 AM
"Great card. I know it was only a prelim, but did anyone else think that Struve kicked Morecraft during the 2nd round handshake?
Posted By: greatgama (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:36 AM"
LOL ya, i thought that was kinda dirty haha.. all my friends witness that also... ohh he did the touch gloves and BOOM! LOL
Posted By: wylun (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 11:33 AM
Big MAD PROPS to CHAEL SONNEN for reviving the most dead and boring division in the whole UFC since Silva arrived.
He IS The real winner of this fight and will get his rematch soon IMO.
Posted By: Sonnen >>>> Silva (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 03:12 AM
IN this post you're loving brocks nuts saying he dominates everyone... well if you saw his last title fight he was DOMINATE for 1 round then won by submission, silva was DOMINTED for FOUR rounds and then one by submission... if Lesnars comeback was a miracle then this should be billed as the greatest comeback ever... Silva definitely has HEART... and now that sonnen can back up his talk i love him too! great main event
Posted By: Weak Sauce (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 11:42 AM
To everyone criticizing Silva:
In the world of American football, one of the most significant metrics for greatness is how you perform under pressure. The greatest quarterbacks in history are defined, at least in part, bu their ability to come back from the brink of defeat. With two minutes left in the fourth quarter, Anderson Silva took the ball downfield and scored the game winning touchdown. This is why he's the greatest fighter in the world. Anyone can look spectacular when things are going their way. But after 23 minutes of getting ridden like a snowmobile, Silva had the ability to finish the fight at the last hour.
Chael Sonnen deserves all the credit in the world for doing what he did, his rating should skyrocket, and he deserves a rematch. But don't take anything away from Anderson Silva. After three dubious performances, he reminded everyone that he is absolutely the best fighter in the world.
Posted By: first-grade math (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 12:15 PM
Also.
"If you think about it, Silva didn't really fight in this one, either..."
That's the most ridiculous comment I've ever read. Clearly, you don't know how the ground game works in MMA. Watch both guys' movements. Chael and Anderson both worked for position the entire time. Sonnen threw about a million strikes, but Anderson threw some too and kept working. That neither man was completely blown is a testament to their cardio, but no...they fought, and you're a moron if you didn't see it.
Posted By: first-grade math (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 12:18 PM
Jesus didn't tap and neither did Sonnen. I hold true that it looked like Sonnen was shaking his hand out from some sort of stinger after being put in the triangle and brushed Silva's leg. That why he looked so stunned they actually called it. There needs to be a more definitive way of tapping...like you must to it 2-3 times in succession.
Complete. Fucking. Hosejob.
Posted By: JC (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:39 AM
I have studied Judo and BJJ for quite some time and that was a tapout if there ever was a tapout.
Chael was defending the triangle properly, couldn't pop his head out and panicked, it has happened to most people that roll.
Posted By: Medium Nog (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 12:40 PM
Sonnen tapped. And he tapped more then once, he just didnt hit the leg on the other ones. I for one am glad too. i can't stand his style. And i actually enjoy St. Pierre and Lesnar, they try and finish the fight at least. Sonnen just tries to do the bare minimum to have it not be stood up.
Posted By: Guest#0640 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:57 AM
If you didn't like Chael's style in that fight you should stick to pro wrestling you spaz.
Posted By: Minotauro (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 12:43 PM
tldr; - BAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWW
Posted By: Sonnen >>>> Silva (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 03:12 AM
Yeah, his "I just dominated you" victory tap was pretty impressive.
Posted By: Silva drinks your tears (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 12:54 PM
I had a during-the-fight prediction...
Sonnen was doing great, but in the later rounds I noticed he was tiring (for obvious reasons).
The fatal error was that he began to sit on his heels while in the guard - I shouted that he was going to get triangled for sitting back like that. I'm not happy it went that way; Sonnen would have had a storybook win, much like when Couture beat Gonzaga or Silvia. It would have been fully deserving.
As far as Silva being hurt - it's part of the deal. If you chose to fight hurt, then you have no excuse.
Bottom line is that I'm a fan of both guys (and pretty much the whole card lineup), and this event was good for the sport.
Posted By: spanky (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 12:54 PM
chael deffinately dominated but i dont belive he ever hurt silva that bad....plus he lost and hes the one with the muffed up face. a win is a win
Posted By: 411 manias enemy (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:04 PM
Love when people wanna praise fighter A, yet their first thing to say is how much fighter B was EXPOSED.. Sonnen fought the 4 best rounds he might ever fight and deserves much respect.. However many people knew, and pointed out how he has a habit of getting submitted from the top.. Secondly anyone that calls a submission of any kind lucky, is an idiot.. Sonnen either made a mistake that was EXPOSED, or Silva just managed to use his black belt in a way Sonnen couldn't stop.. Neither option is LUCKY.. With the way Sonnen has been I'm sure he wont wanna take any moral victories.. Funny that of everyone in the UFC Shields not GSP (I think Silva would have too much weight on him) is the best option 2 dethrone Anderson..
Posted By: 401k.. (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:11 PM
He tapped. Silva didn't take it seriously though and held on anyway, Sonnen was not going to get away with the fake tap. He pulled the same thing against Filiho, Sonnen has a history of fake tapping and trying to get away with it.
Posted By: Guest#6509 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 02:12 AM
Just like his trainer Matt Lindland, who tried the fake tap against Murilo Bustamante for the UFC MW title.
Posted By: Guest#0309 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 01:13 PM
Haha!! I'm glad Silva made him tap out, cause I'm sure Sonnen had thousands of people bustin nuts in their shorts thinking he was gonna win.
Posted By: SS87 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 02:14 PM
Big MAD PROPS to CHAEL SONNEN for reviving the most dead and boring division in the whole UFC since Silva arrived.
He IS The real winner of this fight and will get his rematch soon IMO.
Posted By: Sonnen >>>> Silva (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 03:12 AM
"Obviously not" called and said "Yea right"
Posted By: SS87 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 02:19 PM
Well I, for one, have thoroughly enjoyed watching Anderson Silva and Brock Lesnar get pounded on in recent weeks. There was something very satisfying about both of them getting hurt on the feet when they thought they were invincible (particularly Anderson) - though fair play to both for winning.
Posted By: Jon (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 02:20 PM
All you Silva fans singing his praises need to go back and re-watch that fight.
The "greatest fighter in the world" got his ass beat for 23 minutes straight.
Yeah, Sonnen made a mistake and Silva got the submission, but in no way can you take that as evidence of how "great" Silva is. He got lucky, plain and simple.
Silva was 100% exposed last night. There is no way any of you can argue otherwise. He was dominated in every phase of the game for 23 minutes by a guy no one said had a chance to make it out of the first round!
I still don't see how people cheer for him after the disgraceful performances he's put on recently. The only reason this fight was good was because of Chael Sonnen. If you think about it, Silva didn't really fight in this one, either - he was just on his back instead of dancing around.
Forget Belfort - there should be an immediate rematch for Sonnen.
Posted By: JeremyL (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 10:58 AM
Who has the belt and who tapped out? Yes he was dominated, so what. He won. End of story. Why should Sonnen get a rematch when he clearly lost by submission? He should take his loss and move to the back of the line
Posted By: Guest#5154 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 03:45 PM
God i'm glad sonnen lost. I couldn't handle hughes and sonnen winning on the same card.
Posted By: Guest#3719 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 03:52 PM
Hey here's how I saw it Sonnen lost due yes to a mistake in last round yes he tapped and yes that triangle hurts like hell. Now for anyone that say's he beat the s@#t out of Silva there wrong look at the shots he was landing most of the time they were short with almost no power behind them because he couldn't get leverage. Now Silva on the other hand landed a hand full of blows very small number for him but almost all had the power and force to do the job this is why Sonnen came out with a broken eye from the looks of it and a swollen face; where as Silva had no swelling or bruising to speak of.
For the most part all Sonnen did was get on top of Silva and sit there no submission a temps just stay on top which was all it seemed like was trying to do so if it came to a judgment he'd win. Where Silva just wanted to put him away maybe out of concern maybe out of fear for the injured ribs he said he had in the post event interview we'll never know. All I know is Silva won a well earned victory with the submission move after being pinned for 20 minutes
Posted By: cory (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 04:01 PM
Wow that was amazing as a Silva`s fan i thought it was over i didn`t even watch the fight after sonnen got a takedown in 5th round and then bam triangle this is amazing my favourite card of the year!!
Posted By: Guest#4288 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 04:20 PM
Sonnen clearly won the first 4 rounds but saying it was 10 - 8 all the way is a bit much. After the first he didnt really seem to do much damage to Silva, and there were some points where silva seemes to have him hurt. Oh well good fight gy Sonnen, much better then i expected
Posted By: Guest#7612 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 04:44 PM
Has anyone considered the possibility that after hearing everyone whine and complain about how easily Silva walks thru opponents, Silva decided to give Sonnen 23 minutes to see what he could do? That is my vote. Everyone complains when he wins, it matters not how he does. If he walks thru someone in less than 1 or two rounds, he is being protected by the suits, yet when he dances around, people get upset. So this time, he comes out, allows Sonnen every chance to take the belt, then decides there is little enough time left and slaps in the sub. Pure tactical genius. He is just trying to give the people what they want, other than him losing, that is. And i think the injury was just a work so people will but his half effort for 4.5 rounds. I think he plain out didn't try till the last minute of the fight.
Posted By: Big Daddy (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 04:47 PM
Dammit if you win by submission, there's no luck involved...
Posted By: Guest#1256 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 04:50 PM
I had a during-the-fight prediction...
Sonnen was doing great, but in the later rounds I noticed he was tiring (for obvious reasons).
The fatal error was that he began to sit on his heels while in the guard - I shouted that he was going to get triangled for sitting back like that. I'm not happy it went that way; Sonnen would have had a storybook win, much like when Couture beat Gonzaga or Silvia. It would have been fully deserving.
As far as Silva being hurt - it's part of the deal. If you chose to fight hurt, then you have no excuse.
Bottom line is that I'm a fan of both guys (and pretty much the whole card lineup), and this event was good for the sport.
Posted By: spanky (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 12:54 PM
Good post. Why can't people give credit where credit is due? Chael took it to Anderson tonight like no one else has. I respect all the fighters but I have so much more respect for Chael now. Even in defeat, he admitted he lost and said Silva was a champion, but didn't back down from his previous stance of wanting to be the best. He obviously knows he slipped up. Sometimes these finishes are just too good to be true. The Shogun/Machida, Fedor/Werdum, Edgar/Penn, Lesnar/Carwin, and Sonnen/Silva fights had endings that I would have never predicted.
As for Anderson, I admit he's one of my favorite fighters. But as Chael, Dana, and others said: he showed that he's a true champion tonight. He was clearly off his game and Chael was hurting him. I read a few posts that claimed Chael wasn't trying to finish the fight. I think either some of you don't watch fights closely, or are maybe too used to watching movies or pro wrestling. Chael was taking it to Anderson the whole fight. But Silva hung in there like a true warrior, and was finally able to hurt Chael in the 3rd and especially 4th rounds it looked like. Those elbows from his back were nasty! I don't know why people are saying this guy was robbed. Come on! No fan that's been watching MMA for even 2 years should be saying that. That's a ridiculous statement if I've ever heard one. Whether it's the beginning of the first round, or the end of the final round, the object is to win, and that's what Anderson did. Does Chael deserve a rematch? I never thought I'd say this, but I'd rather see an immediate rematch than Vitor get a title shot. Maybe Dana promised him a title shot, but I'd like to see Vitor beat someone like Leben, Bisping (should he beat Akiyama), or Belcher first.
Finally, why is anyone doubting that Silva was legit injured? I know ppl love to hate, but he's from a different culture. He CLEARLY wasn't the same Spider tonight. Yet all the 'net tough guys are quick to judge and call bs. Let's see how he performs in the next fight. Until then, benefit of doubt
Posted By: Guest#1399 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 05:02 PM
Sonnen fought a great fight. But you got to finished. He got tapped. If Silva fights that way against Belfor he is DONE !!!
Posted By: tazman taylor (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 05:13 PM
Great card. I know it was only a prelim, but did anyone else think that Struve kicked Morecraft during the 2nd round handshake?
Posted By: greatgama (Guest)
I noticed that too. Looked like they touched gloves and he kicked him right away instead of circling to the side like every other fighter does after the glove tap. Not illegal but a real douche move.
Posted By: Guest#7291 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 06:52 PM
Sonnen tapped. And he tapped more then once, he just didnt hit the leg on the other ones. I for one am glad too. i can't stand his style. And i actually enjoy St. Pierre and Lesnar, they try and finish the fight at least. Sonnen just tries to do the bare minimum to have it not be stood up.
Posted By: Guest#0640 (Guest)
You are one stupid motherfucker. He was hitting Silva every chance he got when he had him down, whether it was big bombs or little bitch slaps. Watch the fight agian, dick.
Posted By: Guest#6397 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 06:57 PM
At the very least the mystique of Silva has been damaged greatly.
Posted By: Guest#6159 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 06:57 PM
sonnen tapped three times that sub was locked in tight nogueira brothers Jiu-jitsu baby sonnen got what he deserved trash talking yankee prick
Posted By: Guest#1621 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 09:06 PM
Sonnen was awesome. I can't believe a single person booed him after the match was over. If you're a fight fan, how? He was a questionable #1 contender. He showed up, made Silva fight his game. He never backed down. He was aggressive. And in the 5th round, after 23 minutes of intense combat, he took a breather. And he got caught.
Credit Silva too. He was down but never out. He never gave up and even when he had no answers for Sonnen, he just survived until he found an opening. Sonnen gave it to him, and all respect to Silva for seizing it. After being pounded for 23 minutes, name 3 other guys who would have still had the wherewithal to slap on that triangle so quickly?
Both guys deserve all credit.
Great night for fights!!
Posted By: BDC (Guest) on August 09, 2010 at 09:31 AM
Fuck silva for maing an excuse for getting his ass handed to him. He got his ass BEAT and he knows it. Sonnen was robbed. He won 4 rounds to 1. REMATCH
Posted By: whutevr (Guest) on August 09, 2010 at 10:34 AM
i think any fan who boos a fighter after a tough fight is a complete douchebag who doesn't know shit.
Posted By: Guest#7730 (Guest) on August 09, 2010 at 07:41 PM
Fuck silva for maing an excuse for getting his ass handed to him. He got his ass BEAT and he knows it. Sonnen was robbed. He won 4 rounds to 1. REMATCH
Posted By: whutevr (Guest) on August 09, 2010 at 10:34 A
No robbery occurred if a tapout did.
Posted By: It\'s Magic (Registered) on August 09, 2010 at 08:17 PM
There is a reason the UFC is better than Boxing and that is because you cannot count a fighter out until the last friggin second. Let me just say that I am an Anderson Silva fan and even still I must admit that he was outclassed for four and a half straight rounds. With that said, I should also remind you all out there that he is not the first, last or only person to pull off an upset victory via submission. Furthermore, its all about the match up. Some fighters match up great with certain fighters and not so well with others. Accrediting Sonnen with the title "best" is an insult to those fighters who have been busting their ass all their lives and especially after one fight. All he proved is that Anderson needs to work on his takedown defense, his cardio and maybe consider going up a weight class and putting on some muscle.
Posted By: AKASAGE (Guest) on August 10, 2010 at 11:08 AM
"You are one stupid motherfucker. He was hitting Silva every chance he got when he had him down, whether it was big bombs or little bitch slaps. Watch the fight agian, dick.
Posted By: Guest#6397 (Guest) on August 08, 2010 at 06:57 PM"
MMMM... Anderson loves your anger tears! More please!!!
Now go back to jacking off to your posters of John Cena while the Adults talk.
Thanks,
Guest #0640
Posted By: Guest #0640 (Guest) on August 10, 2010 at 12:32 PM
yeah silva's last few fights have been boring, but for ppl to say he sucks is bullshit. this fight woke him up and believe me we will see the old silva everyone loved in fights to come. all he needed was someone to wake him back up and thats what sonnen did. and for you ppl who say sonnen didn't tap, he tapped my friends, sorry. 1 tap or 2 taps a tap is a tap. much props to sonnen for giving silva the fight of his life, but silva proved why he is the champ. quit your bitch'n!
Posted By: AG (Guest) on August 10, 2010 at 06:03 PM
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