411's UFC on FOX: Velasquez vs. Dos Santos Report 11.12.11
Posted by Mark Radulich on 11.12.2011
In the main event, Junior Dos Santos defeated Cain Velasquez via RD1 KO to become the NEW UFC Heavyweight Champion! Elsewhere, Benson Henderson defeated Clay Guida via unanimous decision to earn a shot at the UFC Lightweight Title, Dustin Poirier defeated Pablo Garza via RD2 submission, Ricardo Lamas defeated Cub Swanson via RD2 submission and more! Check out 411’s complete UFC on FOX 1 report for all the details!
UFC on FOX: Velasquez vs Dos Santos
11.12.11
Honda Center
Anaheim, California
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MAIN FOX CARD - 9:00PM ET
Champ Cain Velasquez (249) vs. Junior Dos Santos (239)
FACEBOOK.COM/FOX.COM PRELIMINARY CARD - 4:45PM ET
Clay Guida (156) vs. Ben Henderson (156)
Pablo Garza (145) vs. Dustin Poirier (146)
Ricardo Lamas (145) vs. Cub Swanson (145)
Clay Harvsion (169) vs. DaMarques Johnson (171)
Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto (135) vs. Darren Uyenoyama (135)
Robert Peralta (145) vs. Mackens Semerzier (146)
Alex Caceres (136) vs. Cole Escovedo (134)
Paul Bradley (171) vs. Mike Pierce (171)
Matt Lucas (203) vs. Aaron Rosa (204)
So what do you think is the bigger deal? Is it the actual heavyweight fight or is it the fact that the UFC is debuting on network TV? Would this fight mean as much if it were in San Jose next week? Would this debut mean as much if weren't headlined by the two best heavyweight fighters in the world (sorry Klitschko fans)? Is this event marred by the lack of Kimbo Slice?
I didn't come here to ask you all of those questions so without further dudes, let's make with the fussin' and a fightin'!
INTRODUCTION:
We are live at the Honda Center in Anaheim, California!
Mike Goldberg and Joe Rogan are of course on the mic tonight as we go to the octagon for our first fight.
FACEBOOK.COM/FOX.COM PRELIMINARY MATCHES
Light Heavyweight bout: Matt Lucas (203lbs 16-4) vs. Aaron Rosa (204lbs 14-2)
ROUND ONE: Lucas charges forward and presses Rosa against the fence. He takes Rosa down but Rosa is able to get back up. Lucas clinches again. He can't do anything with the clinch so he releases. And we're back to clinching against the fence. They break because Lucas has lost his mouthpiece. The ref says fight and Lucas presses Rosa against the fence. Rosa lands a few knees. Rosa forces Lucas to break away and lands a few more before the round ends.
SCORECARD: Rosa 10-9
ROUND TWO: Rosa throws a few strikes to start off. Lucas ducks a punch and scores the double leg takedown. Rosa bounces back up. Lucas drives Rosa against the fence. Rosa attempts a standing kimura. Lucas escapes and lands a hard right hand. Lucas clinches and takes another knee. Lucas is deducted a point for repeatedly dropping his mouthpiece. Lucas gets a takedown to end the round.
SCORECARD: Rosa 10-8
ROUND THREE: Lucas and Rosa clinch but Rosa is firing off a series of knees. Lucas drops his mouthpiece again. Lucas is gassed. Rosa is able to knee at will. Rosa lands a few more strikes to end the round.
SCORECARD: Rosa 10-8
OFFICIAL RESULT: WINNER – Aaron Rosa by Majority Decision (28-28, 30-26X2)
Welterweight bout: Paul Bradley (171lbs 18-3-0, 1NC) vs. Mike Pierce (171lbs 12-4)
ROUND ONE: Pierce charges out and pushes Bradley against the fence. They break and repeat this sequence a few more times. Pierce is throwing jabs but Bradley is circling away. Bradley connects with a punch. Bradley shoots for a takedown. Pierce fights him off. Bradley lands a few knees to end the round.
SCORECARD: Bradley 10-9
ROUND TWO: Pierce throws a few kicks. They clinch in the center of the cage. They release and repeat this action. Another relase and another clinch. I wish I could describe this better but really there isn't much happening in this fight.
SCORECARD: Pierce 10-9
ROUND THREE: Pierce comes out swinging again. Bradley shoots for a takedown after a series of traded strikes. Pierce defends. Bradley gets another takedown but this time keeps pierce on the ground. Pierce finally escapes. Both men are throwing but not much is landing.
SCORECARD: Pierce 10-9
OFFICIAL RESULT: WINNER – Mike Pierce by split decision.
Bantamweight bout: Alex Caceres (136lbs 5-4) vs. Cole Escovedo (134lbs 17-8)
ROUND ONE: Both fighters are trading strikes early and often. Both fighters are throwing a fair amount of leg kicks. Caceres lands a spinning back fist. Caceres lands again. Caceres knocks Escovedo down and lands a few more shots. Escovedo gets up and Caceres continues to pepper Escovedo. Escovedo lands a mean front kick to end the round.
SCORECARD: Caceres 10-9
ROUND TWO: Caceres lands good combo. Caceres is floating in and out of the pocket a la Frankie Edgar. After a lot more of that Escovedo lunges forward and takes Caceres down. Caceres sweeps and escapes. Caceres continues to land strikes. Caceres presses the action and Escovedo doesn't counter. Caceres presses Escovedo against the fence.
SCORECARD: Caceres 10-9
ROUND THREE: Side kick from Caceres. Escovedo gets a takedown. Caceres attacks with a triangle, then a kimura, then an armbar. Escovedo escapes. Caceres tries another triangle. Escovedo finally backs away and lets Caceres stand. Caceres continues to jab away at Escovedo. Escovedo gets another takedown. Escovedo tkes his back but Caceres escapes. They trade a few more kicks.
SCORECARD: Caceres 10-9
OFFICIAL RESULT: WINNER – Alex Caceres by unanimous decision (30 .
Featherweight bout: Robert Peralta (145lbs 15-3) vs. Mackens Semerzier (146lbs 8-3)
ROUND ONE: And we have our first nut shot of the evening. Semerzier lands a hard leg kick. They clinch with Peralta pressed against the fence. Semerzier fires off a few knees. Semerzier tries a single leg. Peralta won't go down. Another leg kick from Sermerzier. Semerzier lands a counter right that rolls Peralta backwards. Sermezier presses him against the fence. Semerzier delivers a body kick. Semerzier finally gets the single leg takedown. Semerzier stands in guard. Semerzier lays in some ground and pound to end the round.
SCORECARD: Semerzier 10-9
ROUND TWO: Both men trade a series of shots until Peralta drops Semerzier with a hard right. Semerzier recovers and presses Peralta against the fence. Peralta hits Semerzier with a short elbow to break them up. Semerzier hits Peralta in the groin again. Semerzier throws a high kick but misses and gets shoved against the fence. Peralta lands a right hand. Peralta continues to circle away from Semerzier. They clinch again and Peralta is throw against the fence this time. They exchange knees and uppercuts. Semerzier throws a pair of kicks.
SCORECARD: Peralta 10-9
ROUND THREE: The fighters resume exchanging leg kicks. Peralta lands a punch to the body. Peralta gets the math knocked out of him with what turns out to be an accidental head butt. Peralta finishes him off.
OFFICIAL RESULT: WINNER – Robert Peralta by TKO at 1:54 of round 3.
Bantamweight bout: Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto (135lbs 18-4-0, 1NC) vs. Darren Uyenoyama (135lbs 6-3)
ROUND ONE: Darren shoots for a takedown and is denied. Kid dives in and Darren tries to clinch. Kid backs out and dives in for another shot. Kid grabs Darren and presses him against the fence. Kid gets him to the ground with a nice judo throw. Darren stands up and Kid throws him down again. Darren keeps Kid in full guard. Kid gets out and stands up. Kid lands a glancing uppercut. Darren catches a kick and drives him down. Darren starts pounding on Yamamoto. Darrren has Kid wrapped around the body. Darren takes his back. Kid is going down fast. Kid has to survive for 30 more seconds. Kid nearly gets choked out. The crowd thinks it's over but Kid survives to round 2.
SCORECARD: Uyenoyama 10-9
ROUND TWO: Darren misses with a head kick and has his clock cleaned. Kid is trying to finish Darren off. Darren is cut open. Darren recovers and slams Kid. Yamamoto tries to shrimp out. Darren gets a back mount once again. Now he has 3:15 to work unlike the last round. Darren is desperately working for that rear-naked choke. Darren continues to try and soften Yamamoto up for the submission. Yamamoto is taking a lot of hits and isn't able to do much of anything. Less than a minute let and Kid is in trouble no matter how many ways you slice it.
SCORECARD: Uyenoyama 10-9
ROUND THREE: Kid lands a let kick but slips on the mat. Kid drives Darren down but Darren doesn't even resist it. He seems to believe that even from the guard position he's got Kids number. Joe Rogan says Kid is caught in head crack control…I believe him. Kid gets out but eats an up kick. Darren lands a front kick. Yamamoto presses Darren against the fence. The ref breaks them up. A few more exchanges ends this fight.
SCORECARD: Uyenoyama 10-9
OFFICIAL RESULT: WINNER – Darren Uyenoyama by unanimous decision (30-27X2, 30-26).
Welterweight bout: Clay Harvsion (169lbs 9-4) vs. DaMarques Johnson (171lbs 17-9)
ROUND ONE: Harvison and Johnson paw at each other, trying to find their distance. Johnson lands a hard left hook. He follows up with a straight right. Harvison is circling away now. Harvison lands a leg kick but is then knocked the BUCGAW out with an uppercut in the shnozz. Well, that didn't go nearly the way I thought it would.
OFFICIAL RESULT: WINNER – DaMarques Johnson by TKO at 1:34 of round 1.
ROUND ONE: Swanson comes out jabbing. He lands a kick to the body. Lamas catches a kick but Swanson pulls free. Lamas jabs. Swanson lands a kick to the ankle. Swanson lands a nice side kick right in the junk. Lamas shoots and takes Swanson down. Lama tries to sweep but is stuck in half guard. Swanson adjusts and grabs for a guillotine. He's got him! He's hanging on for dear life despite Lamas standing up. Lamas escapes. Spinning back kick from Swanson. Swanson is going to town on Lamas. Lamas shoots to save himself. Swanson gets Lamas down and lands in side control. He's north-south on him. Lamas spins out and they stand back up. Lamas gets a short shot off after the horn.
SCORECARD: Swanson 10-9
ROUND TWO: Lamas and Swanson are going Roadhouse! They are throwing kicks and punches until Lamas finally scoops up Swanson and slams him. Swanson works his rubber guard. Lamas tries for some ground and pound. Lamas presses Swanson against the fence. Lamas has his back. Lamas may have locked in an arm triangle…yes indeed. Swanson taps!
OFFICIAL RESULT: WINNER – Ricardo Lamas by submission (arm triangle) at 2:16 of round 2.
Featherweight bout: Pablo Garza (145lbs 12-1) vs. Dustin Poirier (146lbs 10-1)
ROUND ONE: They exchange leg kicks to start off. Poirier lands a good combination of punches. Garza kicks, Poirier catches and nails Garza. Poirier counters Garza's strikes and drops him. Garza stands back up and continues to stalk Garza. Garza takes Poirier down. He attempts a kneebar Poirier defends and escapes. Poirier tees off on Garza. Garza attempts to shoot but Poirier stuffs him like a turkey. Poirier tenderizes Garza. Garza tries to lock up Poirier to stop the beating.
SCORECARD: Poirier 10-9
ROUND TWO: Garza misses with a spinning back fist and various a sundry other strikes but ends up on his back. Poirier works from half guard. Poirier locks in a Darce Choke and that is all she wrote.
OFFICIAL RESULT: WINNER – Dustin Poirier by submission (Darce choke) at 1:32 of round 2.
Lightweight bout: Clay Guida (156lbs 29-8) vs. Ben Henderson (156lbs 14-2)
ROUND ONE: Both men start off throwing punches slowly, then faster, then ROADHOUSE! Henderson smashes Guida and Guida grabs his leg for dear life. Guida won't give up the leg despite being hammered on by Henderson. Henderson keeps up a sprawl and what started out as fast and furious has become a stalemate. Henderson flips Guida around and presses him against the fence. They exchange knees in the clinch. Guida smacks Henderson and attempts a single leg but is denied. Guida attempts a flying knee, follows up with a two hard hooks and drops Henderson. Guida attempts a guillotine. Henderson reverses and wraps up his body. Guida stands but eats a knee and a kick. Wow, best fight of the night by far!
SCORECARD: Henderson 10-9
ROUND TWO: A knee from Henderson and they are grappling. Guida gets the single leg takedown. Henderson escapes and takes Guida down. Henderson has Guida on his back and working over his face. Henderson has Guida wrapped up around the neck. Henderson knees Guida in the belly. Henderson is keeping Guida pressed against the fence. Guida tackles Henderson. Guida has Henderson pressed against the fence. Guida throws a spinning back fist, knees him in the head and trips over his leg, flying across the cage. Henderson presses his advantage but Guida takes his back. Henderson reverses. He's looking for the rear-naked choke. He can't get it with the short time remaining.
SCORECARD: Henderson 10-9
ROUND THREE: The action is still fast and furious. They are trading punches. Henderson misses with a pair of kicks. Guida lands a few on Henderson's chin so Henderson clinches. He drives Guida across the cage and smashes him in the face with his knee. Guida throws a high kick, Henderson ducks and down goes Guida. Henderson works from half guard and then side control. Guida gives up his back. Henderson works for the rear-naked. Guida escapes, Henderson rushes and Guida GORES him! Guida rolls with Henderson, looking for the guillotine. Henderson batters Guida as the clock strikes 00! Unless Cain vs JDS is a barnstormer, this is the FIGHT OF THE NIGHT!
SCORECARD: Henderson 10-9
OFFICIAL RESULT: WINNER – Ben Henderson by unanimous decision (30-27X2, 29-28).
All things through Christ indeed sir! Edgar vs Bendo February 26th in Japan. IT IS ON!
UFC ON FOX MAIN EVENT
Main Event Heavyweight Championship bout: Champ Cain Velasquez (249lbs 9-0) vs. Junior Dos Santos (239lbs 13-1)
ROUND ONE: Velasquez starts with a leg kick. JDS throws a front kick and is caught. He avoids a takedown. Cain works his leg. JDS launches an overhand right and nails him behind the ear. JDS swarms and Cain doesn't defend. Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a NEW WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION!!!
OFFICIAL RESULT: WINNER – Junior Dos Santos by KO at 1:04 of round 1.
Well, it wasn't 10 seconds but it certainly wasn't 5 rounds…yeesh. For the record, I've been calling JDS as the winner for months now the radio show : P
UFC is overrated. they build up the main event on fox for 40 minutes and it only lasted 1 minute. lol..
Posted By: Guest#4580 (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:03 PM
That was the most pathetic hour of sports broadcast I've ever seen. 30 minutes of hyping it up as the biggest fight in MMA history, 1 minute OF ACTUAL FIGHTING, then 9 minutes of excuses.
Dana White said there would be more people watching this than there are who watch the Super Bowl each year, so I hope he's glad that many people watched such an embarrassing showing on network television.
Posted By: Cactus (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:03 PM
a 1 minute main event on UFC? in their FOX debut? thats why i dont like MMA. fights end too much. its worse than TNA on PPV with their 1 minute Jeff hardy vs Sting match.
Posted By: Guest#9875 (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:04 PM
Awesome. Now go watch the Pacquiao fight.
Posted By: Alan (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:04 PM
It was never going to be a 2/3 rnd fight. Someone was getting stopped in the first rnd.
Posted By: Ryan Haseldine (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:05 PM
Lol, Dana was so pissed about how the fight ended.
Why can't we have a long epic battle for once on a Network show :-(
Posted By: AG Awesome (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:06 PM
Such a let down, they really should have shown the Guida-Henderson fight on Fox to promote the UFC.
Posted By: sly S. (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:07 PM
a 1 minute main event on UFC? in their FOX debut? thats why i dont like MMA. fights end too much. its worse than TNA on PPV with their 1 minute Jeff hardy vs Sting match.
Posted By: Guest#9875 (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:04 PM
Fn Christ! Can you go be useless around your family please.
Posted By: Guest#5831 (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:08 PM
Terrible, probably as bad as Survivor Series will be. What a bust of a show. When the shitty rating comes in, you can be sure they won't be this again for a long time, if ever.
Oh well, the Rolling Stones commercial was pretty cool...
Posted By: Maria Thayer fan (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:08 PM
Hogan would've beat either of them in 4 seconds. He could probably body slam them both too.
Posted By: Hulk Fan (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:09 PM
I thought this was gonna be the same as when they show them on spike but then noticed that it was just going to be one fight and thought "this is how you kick off a new network broadcast?". The fight started at 8:40. Would it have run over if it went all 5 rounds? And why do they have the NFL Sunday music?
Posted By: Hum (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:11 PM
Longer fight DOES NOT equal better fight. I'm disappointed the fight didn't last longer. But really, if Cain lands a takedown, then lays on him for the rest of the round, then the next round ends quick with a KO, is that a better fight? No.
Posted By: Guest#2015 (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:14 PM
Bad show. That is all.
Posted By: Guest#5320 (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:20 PM
That Guida/Henderson fight was AWESOME. I can't believe FOX didn't let that be on TV. The 4 fights before it were also all good. Overall, great night of fights.
The main event really surprised me. I expected Dos Santos to catch Velasquez eventually, but I didn't think he'd just drop him like that. I certainly didn't expect him to do it in a minute. Dos Santos is a freaking beast. Can't wait for the rematch which (knowing UFC) will probably happen after Dos Santos/Leser or Overeem.
Also, I hope they don't use that damn annoying football music for future UFC broadcast. Aside from that the production was great. They should use Chuck Liddell or Randy Couture as analyst in the future.
Posted By: Yup. (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:27 PM
What a let down.
Posted By: Guest#9967 (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:28 PM
LOL @ all the wrestling trolls. You retards need to go back to watching your fake sport and stop pretending you know anything about MMA.
Posted By: Guest#1131 (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:31 PM
Such a let down, they really should have shown the Guida-Henderson fight on Fox to promote the UFC.
Posted By: sly S. (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:07 PM
THEY DID YOU DUMBASS!!!!
Maybe you should have watched it instead
of bullshitting that you did!!
Posted By: Deano (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:33 PM
That was awesome. Sometimes fights are going to 15+mins, some are going to be 10 sec. Some fights are submissions, some are KO, some are decisions. I knew it was going to be quick fight. There is no way these guys would go the distance.
Posted By: Bob (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:38 PM
LOL Fox
Posted By: Spike TV (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:46 PM
Velasquez looked like a bitch! 1 hit and he was done... at least lesnar took a decent beating and had some offense before losing!
cant wait for lesnar to win the #1 contender and fight dos santos... he should start working on his striking game now!!!
and as far as all these stupid overrated and hate comments... i know your all used to scripeted action but this is real fighting... no one will ever know which fights will last and which ones wont!!!
for a debut on a new channel would you want to schedule any thing other than a big name title fight?
they made the right choice... see fox fucked up by not airing the whole show or at least more fights!
Posted By: Guest#3840 (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:47 PM
Such a let down, they really should have shown the Guida-Henderson fight on Fox to promote the UFC.
Posted By: sly S. (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:07 PM
THEY DID YOU DUMBASS!!!!
Maybe you should have watched it instead
of bullshitting that you did!!
Posted By: Deano (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:33 PM
They didn't show in my market (Baltimore/DC). We got Cops, a half hour of reality show-esque hype, the fight, ten minutes of interviews and explanation, then the local news.
I'm not dogging the fight, but would have liked if the would have planned for this and shown additional stuff that showcased more of the first m in mma. Why not show Lesnar-Velasquez and Dos Santos-Carwin (or Ultimate Fighter style recaps) during the build up?
Posted By: s1rude (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:53 PM
UFC on Fox. EPIC FAIL.
Posted By: Guest#6278 (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:58 PM
Maybe you stupid wrestling marks would have preferred Arlovski/Sylvia III which went 25 minutes. Stick to wrestling, MMA doesn't need you.
Posted By: Alex (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:59 PM
Such a let down, they really should have shown the Guida-Henderson fight on Fox to promote the UFC.
Posted By: sly S. (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:07 PM
THEY DID YOU DUMBASS!!!!
Maybe you should have watched it instead
of bullshitting that you did!!
Posted By: Deano (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:33 PM
They didn't show in my market (Baltimore/DC). We got Cops, a half hour of reality show-esque hype, the fight, ten minutes of interviews and explanation, then the local news.
I'm not dogging the fight, but would have liked if the would have planned for this and shown additional stuff that showcased more of the first m in mma. Why not show Lesnar-Velasquez and Dos Santos-Carwin (or Ultimate Fighter style recaps) during the build up?
Posted By: s1rude (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:53 PM
Sorry bout that, I'm in Australia. We got Guida - Bendo before And Johnson - Harvison after it.
Posted By: Deano (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 11:04 PM
Such a let down, they really should have shown the Guida-Henderson fight on Fox to promote the UFC.
Posted By: sly S. (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:07 PM
THEY DID YOU DUMBASS!!!!
Maybe you should have watched it instead
of bullshitting that you did!!
Posted By: Deano (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:33 PM
Easy there Deano Machino, FOX sure as shit did not show any other fights in my market. There was 30 minutes of yapping and buildup, 5-6 minutes of fighter intros, a minute of fighting, and more yapping.
For those bitching that the fight was too short, that's not really something you can complain about. These fighters are in a league of their own. JDS is a giant and he hits like a goddamn jackhammer so if he catches a guy right behind the ear, even a guy as tough as Cain, that guy is going down. Hence the phrase "puncher's chance".
Posted By: someguy (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 11:06 PM
Mma isn't scripted dumb asses the better man won (called it!)
Posted By: jmh (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 11:26 PM
One good thing about the quick finish...it will show Fox that they need to leave control of the show up to the people who know better. UFC know that every PPV they have to slot in a preshow match or 2, as there is always a quick finish.
Posted By: Cyco (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 12:00 AM
ha ha ha! i told you mma has to evolve! now who is the king of kings? it certainly is not dana white and the fajita brothers. 30 min of storytelling with 1 min of action. at least we can do false finishes that can amp the viewers up. so, before i learn, dana, what you need to learn is that it's all about me and how i say it, and it's all about control and...well, a bunch of other words that i can't remember right this second. but the bottom line is, suck it!
Posted By: triple son-in-law (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 12:08 AM
dedicated wrestling fan, casual MMA fan here...
I thought the main event left much to be desired but it highlights the unpredictability of the sport.
At least it was on free TV.
Posted By: Guest#7679 (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 01:29 AM
"Maybe you stupid wrestling marks would have preferred Arlovski/Sylvia III which went 25 minutes. Stick to wrestling, MMA doesn't need you.
Posted By: Alex (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:59 PM"
I am a huge wrestling fan, and have a passing interest in this MMA thing.
Alex is one of the reasons a lot of people get turned off by any form of entertainment with too many obsessive, arrogant nerd fans (wrestling has its fair share as well).
The thing that makes this type of fan worse in MMA, is they come complete with the macho attitude that they present some dire physical threat to anyone who would dare disrespect their little MMA club. I bet this ass has a TAPOUT or AFFLICTION shirt he got from Sears.
Alex aside, the fight was fun while it lasted, but Cain must look like a joke to a first time viewer. The "perfect fighter" is some pudgy tattooed gang banger looking guy that got snuffed out in a minute. Ergh.
Kudos to Junior!
Posted By: Hey Alex! (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 02:11 AM
This is why Henderson v Guida should have been on the TV show as well
Posted By: nin666 (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 02:59 AM
YEAH! Cigano show american wrestler mean nothing when u get punched in face!!
Brasil #1, we come back back! JDS, Anderson, Jose, next Shogun beat Dan (good fight, dan my favorite american fighter) then Lyoto take back belt, WOOOOOOOOOO!
Posted By: Guest#5033 (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 03:02 AM
Anybody notice that besides the fox football music, the also closed out the show with "born a champion" (not sure of real title)....same music the WWE uses for the new version of tough enough.
Posted By: animal516 (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 03:11 AM
Did Fox actually prevent the UFC from showing any of the earlier fights after the main event? I've been trying to find a source to confirm or deny this, but all I can find is Dana White originally saying they'd show an earlier fight, and then him later changing his mind to "We will only show Cain Vs. JDS no matter what happens"
Posted By: Livo (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 03:53 AM
Don't you wish MMA was worked?
Posted By: Guest#5033 (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 04:44 AM
LOL @ all the wrestling trolls. You retards need to go back to watching your fake sport and stop pretending you know anything about MMA.
Posted By: Guest#1131 (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:31 PM
Scripted or choreographed, yes. "fake"? Most certainly not. You go on the road 200-300 days a year and get bodyslammmed or hit with tables ladders and or chairs then come back to me and say its "fake".
Posted By: Darren Runne (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 04:45 AM
There must have been a different international broadcast because I'm in New Zealand and they showed Henderson v Guida at the start of the show and it didn't have all the Fox graphics, it was the usual UFC PPV graphics. But Henderson v Guida is a MUST SEE FIGHT. The UFC must be kicking themselves for not showing this show on the US broadcast because that was the kind of fight which would've made a lot of people fans of the sport
Posted By: Guest#3411 (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 05:29 AM
People give Dana and Joe Silva too much credit for being geniuses and all that but really morons. How else is a fight between these two HWs gonna finish? Oh yeah a five round Cain wrestling clinic.
Also that TapOut ad with the two little mohawked mexicans who will be in juvi in a year or two, not the message you want to send on network tv.
Posted By: Diavo (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 06:55 AM
Baffled by all the 'epic fail' posts. If anybody expected a long fight, you're idiots and it was FOX's call to have one fight, not Dana's?
Dana can use this to hopefully force 2-3 fight cards in the future.
And for any wrestling fans trying to say 'this is why WWE/TNA are better'... carry on watching your overly predictable fake "sport". MMA fans aren't interested in your product, so why post on ours? Go moan about your favourite indy jobber being held down (Y)
Posted By: DB (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 07:36 AM
Im glad that racist Cain got his ass handed to him, but come on. 35 minutes before the fight starts? They couldnt stick one of the undercard fights on before hand, that way when that ended in 1 minute it didnt matter? This is not a good start for UFC on FOX.
Posted By: Guest#9385 (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 08:01 AM
Why is it that back when Mike Tyson was knocking people out in 1 minute, it was awesome but in MMA, people bitch when it happens?
Posted By: Guest#0099 (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 08:01 AM
MMA marks aren't going to want to admit it but THIS is why MMA will decrease in popularity and be passed by pro wrestling. Outside of Hardy/Sting you know you're going to get a 15-25 min main event that delivers. HHH was right, you all blasted him when he first made those comments but who's laughing now? Oh and 1 more thing: Survivor Series is probably going to do around 500,000 ppv buys so eat It!
Posted By: Jibba Jabba (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 08:10 AM
"LOL @ all the wrestling trolls. You retards need to go back to watching your fake sport and stop pretending you know anything about MMA.
Posted By: Guest#1131 (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:31 PM"
And I say a double LOL to the MMA douche snobs whose big main event lasted one minute in the 60 minute FOX debut. So much for inroads to mainstream, I know Dana White shit himself at that knockout. Bwahahaha!
Posted By: Harley Race (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 08:23 AM
We got to see the Henderson/Guida fight thanks to Fox Deportes. Easily fight of the night. Just like Radulich I've been calling JDS as the winner for months. Everyone seemed to forget the Kongo fight where Velasquez got dropped three times. Where are all the haters that were talking about Brock not being able to take punch? Looks like he can take one better than Velasquez.
Posted By: Flying Dutchman (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 08:55 AM
Yeah, we didn't see the Henderson-Guida fight in our market, either. Really seems like a wasted opportunity. They should have been prepared for a short fight, seems like there was plenty of material on the undercard. Strikeforce on CBS was way better. Just a huge let-down for what could have been a great chance for more mainstream exposure.
Posted By: Guest#1373 (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 09:00 AM
Actually a quick finish is a lot better than what Strikeforce did with their 5 round fights earlier in the year. I got my brother to watch it last time, when I told him MMA was on tonight he just said "I won't get tricked again, I saw it last time."
This quick finish will have people talking positively probably. Lesnar-Reem will be fun to watch next month.
Posted By: Guest#4322 (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 09:35 AM
Its not like a Kimbo Slice vs Set Petruzelli match where it was FIXED. Cain took down Lesnar, JDS took down Cain. Thats all you need to know.
Posted By: Guest#5131 (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 09:42 AM
Thats the nature of MMA, anything can happen at any time. At least you didn't have to pay for it.
Posted By: guest1325 (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 09:49 AM
Maybe you stupid wrestling marks would have preferred Arlovski/Sylvia III which went 25 minutes. Stick to wrestling, MMA doesn't need you.
Posted By: Alex (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:59 PM
I really dont see how wanting to have an action packed, back and forth fight is a bad thing.
Especially when we get the Rocky music before the fight... lol
And who doesnt like a vicious KO? This was more of a connection/follow through than a wham bam thank you mam.
Posted By: AG Awesome (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 09:59 AM
THAT is why I don't like MMA.
Posted By: Guest#7496 (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 10:03 AM
In Pro Wrestling, the promoters, bookers and wrestlers have the opportunity to guarantee drama and excitement, unlike a real fight. Makes you wonder why they don't 9/10 times.
Posted By: Engel (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 10:05 AM
ha ha ha! i told you mma has to evolve! now who is the king of kings? it certainly is not dana white and the fajita brothers. 30 min of storytelling with 1 min of action. at least we can do false finishes that can amp the viewers up. so, before i learn, dana, what you need to learn is that it's all about me and how i say it, and it's all about control and...well, a bunch of other words that i can't remember right this second. but the bottom line is, suck it!
Posted By: triple son-in-law (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 12:08 AM
Ok Rick Perry, stop screwing around online and concentrate on remembering your campaign stuff will ya?
Posted By: Guest#8373 (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 10:15 AM
UFC is overrated. they build up the main event on fox for 40 minutes and it only lasted 1 minute. lol..
Posted By: Guest#4580 (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:03 PM
That was the most pathetic hour of sports broadcast I've ever seen. 30 minutes of hyping it up as the biggest fight in MMA history, 1 minute OF ACTUAL FIGHTING, then 9 minutes of excuses.
Posted By: Cactus (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:03 PM
Guess none of you are old enough to have ever watched a Mike Tyson fight. Happened all the time.
Posted By: Comment Board Poster (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 10:17 AM
"Peralta gets the math knocked out of him "
We do not need someone who watches Adventure Time to be recapping UFC.
Posted By: Guest#2621 (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 10:29 AM
For anybody who is interested, UFC on Fox was shown on Premier Sports in the UK and they showed Guida v Henderson before Velasquez v Dos Santos and then Johnson v Harvison after the Championship fight. So glad they showed Guida v Henderson as that was a great fight.
Do people think that UFC gambled on the main event not getting into the Championship rounds or did they just overrun? If the fight would've gone the distance I'd have missed the end as my Sky+ would've timed out.
Posted By: Baron Skinny (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 10:33 AM
First off people it was a FOX production, not a UFC production...go look it up!
If it was a UFC production you would have had 2-3 fights and filled the entire hour after the 1 round fight. Don't believe me? Go check out how the UFC NORMALLY ran things on spike or vs.
2nd point, the reason HW boxing has been in the toilet for years is because NOBODY finishes fights.
Comparing pro-wrestling (which is a show you have control over and not a real contest), to MMA is a joke.
I personally would rather watch this that a boring ass 12 round HW boxing bout.
Posted By: Guest#9733 (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 10:53 AM
Was there live. Great show and great fights.
Posted By: Jeffrey (Registered) on November 13, 2011 at 11:39 AM
I love that JDS won and put that piece of shit Velasquez away. Velasquez got such a fluke win over Brock and has never shown anything real in any of his fights. Junior looks like the real deal though and could be holding that strap for a while.
Posted By: Guest#5358 (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 03:24 PM
The rating was a 3.1 with 5.7 million viewers. Not exactly shitty considering there was ONE MINUTE of fighting in the show. That said, the Guida fight definitely should've made the air.
Posted By: Guest#0725 (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 03:37 PM
I think the overall rating would've been better had the Guida fight made the air as that would've gotten the audience even more pumped for a title fight. Do that instead of the extra promos and hype. But this will hopefully be a learning process and experience for UFC and Fox.
Also where did the 3.1 rating, 5.7 million viewers figure come from? The initial figures were lower. Have they already gone up?
Posted By: Jeffrey (Registered) on November 13, 2011 at 04:10 PM
Such a let down, they really should have shown the Guida-Henderson fight on Fox to promote the UFC.
Posted By: sly S. (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:07 PM
THEY DID YOU DUMBASS!!!!
Maybe you should have watched it instead
of bullshitting that you did!!
Posted By: Deano (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:33 PM
NO THEY DIDN'T, YOU FUCK-TARD!
If you realized that not all markets got more of the card, you would've known that!
Posted By: Spaminator X (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 06:56 PM
Maybe you stupid wrestling marks would have preferred Arlovski/Sylvia III which went 25 minutes. Stick to wrestling, MMA doesn't need you.
Posted By: Alex (Guest) on November 12, 2011 at 10:59 PM
No, I think those kids would've preferred the Shamrock/Severn snore-fest Super Fight...
Posted By: Guest#9951 (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 06:59 PM
People give Dana and Joe Silva too much credit for being geniuses and all that but really morons. How else is a fight between these two HWs gonna finish? Oh yeah a five round Cain wrestling clinic.
Also that TapOut ad with the two little mohawked mexicans who will be in juvi in a year or two, not the message you want to send on network tv.
Posted By: Diavo (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 06:55 AM
Yeah, and don't forget the ESPN special where they were vehement against children doing MMA until they're older (and with good reason, it turned into almost a form of pit-fighting, as opposed to anything like Judo, Ju-Jitsu, Boxing, or Karate competitions).
Not a good message to send off to the audience.
Posted By: Guest#2364 (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 07:07 PM
I love that JDS won and put that piece of shit Velasquez away. Velasquez got such a fluke win over Brock and has never shown anything real in any of his fights. Junior looks like the real deal though and could be holding that strap for a while.
Posted By: Guest#5358 (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 03:24 PM
Oh...That wasn't a fluke by ANY stretch of the imagination.
I know all the Lesnar fans take this side as it reserves to their GLORIOUS fighter, but Lesnar gassed the crap out of himself half-way through the round (thinking that he was going to bulldoze right through Cain).
Cain showed a tremendous amount of heart, he stuck it out, then proceeded to beat the TAR out of Lesnar for a good 2+ minutes of what was left of that round (including TWO take downs on Lesnar).
The fact is that the JDS punch wasn't a clean punch, it was a punch behind Cain's ear. That shot knocks the crap out of your equilibrium, and that's what put Cain down.
If you were a fight fan, you would've known that.
But on a side note Marquez got ROBBED last night, and Pac-Man is looking more, and more, human to Mayweather. Marquez really out-classed him with his game plan, had Pac-Man flustered (which was the first in a WHILE), and had he SHOULD'VE won that fight!
Oh well, hopefully Mayweather stops being a bitch and takes the fight with Pacquiao sometime in the near future.
Posted By: Guest#4698 (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 07:21 PM
The rating was a 3.1 with 5.7 million viewers. Not exactly shitty considering there was ONE MINUTE of fighting in the show. That said, the Guida fight definitely should've made the air.
Posted By: Guest#0725 (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 03:37 PM
Yes, they got 5.7 million viewers but none of them knew the fight would only be 1 minute long. You're making it sound as if they announced the length of the fight at the beginning of the broadcast. UFC knew they were going to lose a ton of money by airing this on free tv, not PPV, but I doubt anyone watching who was not into UFC before this is going to rush and order the next $50 PPV if this fight was only 1 minute long. Let's face it, the UFC and WWE will not be around 6 months from now.
Posted By: Guest#1050 (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 09:05 PM
Since they had it slotted until 10:30, they should've shown a replay of the Guida-Henderson fight.
Posted By: Charles (Guest) on November 13, 2011 at 11:58 PM
They should have called this event "Commercials on Fox". I get that commercials pay the bill for free fights, but this was ridiculous. Especially after the fight was over. 90 seconds of analysis, 4 minutes of commerical. Another 90 seconds of analysis, then more commercials. I'm PVRing the next one and watching ona delay. That was stupid (and exactly why I don't mind paying $50 for a PPV).
Posted By: Chico Whoretiz (Guest) on November 14, 2011 at 12:40 PM
FYI, this was the highest rated UFC and MMA broadcast of all time.
Posted By: Jeffrey (Registered) on November 14, 2011 at 05:46 PM
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