Mayweather Rejected a Proposed Positive Drug Test Penalty
Posted by A. Shakoor on 12.24.2009
Arum says it was a lot of money.
According to Top Rank's Bob Arum, Floyd Mayweather was offered a $10 million penalty reward if Manny Pacqiuao tested positive for any illegal substances. Mayweather turned the offer down. According to Arum, "We named some crazy amounts of money here., really anything they want…make it $5 million or $10 million, that is fine. But they weren't interested."
Arum says that the fight is off, and he has his ideas as to why:
"The testing by the Nevada commission is more than adequate to catch any malefactors...But Mayweather is bigger than the commission. Mayweather is bigger than the sport itself."
Thats strange.. Team Mayweather want to go on and on about Manny being on HGH/steroids but refuse to take 10million if Manny does get a positive test?
This whole situation is getting stupid. The accusations are baseless!
Whats even sadder is that mud tends to stick.. there will probebly always be a cloud of doubt over Mannys head after this.
Posted By: AUSSIEPINOY (Guest) on December 24, 2009 at 08:36 PM
Is it that hard to submit to random, USADA drug testing!? If he's on HGH, EPO and other PEDs Nevada won't catch it with their urine tests (did they catch Mosley?)!
Pac's hiding something cuz this is just dumb!
Posted By: P-Red (Guest) on December 24, 2009 at 09:04 PM
Mayweather is a JOKE....he is running scared trying anything to not fight manny. Did Hatton have to have olympic drug testing when he fought mayweather? What about Marquez? No all of a sudden it's an issue.
It's a total joke on Mayweather and his managements part. Just come out and say you don't want to fight the guy.
Posted By: Bill (Guest) on December 24, 2009 at 09:57 PM
Manny's manager said he'd agree to have blood taken up to a month before and immediately after the fight. They also pointed out that the testing isn't required.
Manny is not the bitch.
Posted By: Guest#9371 (Guest) on December 24, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Is it that hard to submit to random, USADA drug testing!? If he's on HGH, EPO and other PEDs Nevada won't catch it with their urine tests (did they catch Mosley?)!
Pac's hiding something cuz this is just dumb!
Posted By: P-Red (Guest) on December 24, 2009 at 09:04 PM
There actually is a test now for HGH and some of the others you named,but it's like 20 grand a test and like not even 50% accurate.
Posted By: Showster (Guest) on December 25, 2009 at 12:12 AM
Mosely wasn;t tested because Golden Boy (his promoter) rejected testing 'other than the Nevada State Athletic Commission. So the fight never happened and Mosely never got checked and this is with an admission by Mosely that he took steroids in 2003. Ironic that Golden Boy now want the test aganist Pcquiao whose always tested clean in all his fights.
Posted By: Judg3ment Day (Guest) on December 25, 2009 at 07:21 AM
I think these are the 2 best fighters in the world period.But offering Floyd 10 million dollars to give Manny an edge with Roids.To tarnish a Perfect career.He already has millions.He doesnt want it to go the tubes.Manny is a great fighter,but to hear he is afraid of needles is the worst excuse i have ever heard and now really seems he is hiding some type of Drug use..
Posted By: Koota Kintay (Guest) on December 25, 2009 at 08:31 AM
If Pacquiao has nothing to hide then why not submit to the tests? I don't want to hear this BS about not liking giving blood. Dude is getting paid I don't know how many millions....it's not too much to take a blood test to make sure he's not doping.
Posted By: JC (Guest) on December 25, 2009 at 09:28 AM
Manny is hiding something and if he is not, then he is stupid. I think that olympic drug testing should not be an issue here if you are not hiding something. The excuse about feeling weak is just that, an excuse.
Posted By: Armando Rodriguez (Guest) on December 25, 2009 at 10:14 AM
Can you ppl not read? Do you really think he is gonna do something that could potentially cost him 10 million? Are eating paint chips or something?
Posted By: hateman (Guest) on December 25, 2009 at 01:43 PM
Thats fucking Gay. I was actually willin to order this shit and not download it. Fuck whoever is responsible for this shit not happening.
That is all.
Happy Holidays.
v/r
The Man
Posted By: The Man (Guest) on December 25, 2009 at 02:04 PM
Yes, yes he is.
And you know why? Because "Pretty Boy" Floyd is arguably the biggest draw in all of boxing, in adition to being boxing's top 'heel'.
Exhibit A being the buyrate for the Marquez vs. Mayweather fight, which was able to draw over 1 million buys, at $52 a pop. Floyd Mayweather, matching up against a world class fighter, who happened to be coming up 15 pounds for the fight, was able to drum up enough interest the he was able to generate $52,000,000 for a fight, entering into Dela Hoya territory, when it comes to being a draw, And he did it as the bad guy.
Like Brock Lesnar in the UFC, Floyd has assumed the role of top draw in his sport, for the simple reason that near all fight fans want to either see him win or see him lose. There's no apathy for Mayweather.
The fight with Pacquiao is supposed to draw something in the range of $50-$70 million as the fight purse, with the split being near 50/50.
Even if Floyd agreed to take 10 million for a positive test, Pacquiao could still walk away with $15 million for the fight.
It's be stupid for Floyd not to make sure that Manny is completely clean for the fight. His career and probably $40 million rides on it
Posted By: scipio2009 (Guest) on December 25, 2009 at 02:28 PM
Things like this just shows how terrible this business really is, especially compared to MMA.
Posted By: who cares (Guest) on December 25, 2009 at 02:44 PM
wow who would have known after everyone that talked shit about floyd when it came down to it he wanted to fight manny, but manny was really the bitch in this one who cancelled the whole fight because he realized he couldnt get away with the peds he uses now he wants nothing to do with floyd
pusssy, youve already lossed
Floyd has everything to lose and nothing to gain a perfect career and the guys is a mega millionare pac is lunch meat to him
A fight with money would sky rocket pac career, but he want take a drug test because of his fear of needles and its not that hes using peds hes just superstitious
what a bunch of bs
Posted By: Guest#1648 (Guest) on December 25, 2009 at 03:16 PM
It's plain and simple, Mayweather is afraid of Pacquiao. Pacquaio doesn't need Mayweather, it's Mayweather that needs Pacquaio. They don't even have to meet in the ring just to show who is better. Pacquiao would definitely knock Mayweather out if they fight that's why Mayweather is pissing in his pants right now and is looking to find a way out. Everybody knows that Mayweather has and always will cherry pick his opponent that's why up until now he hasn't fought the best boxers in the world in their prime. He didn't wanna fight De La Hoya for a rematch because he knows he will lose in that rematch. He didn't wanna fight Mosley because he knows he can't beat him. He didn't wanna fight Cotto because he knows that he can't beat him. Now he's afraid to fight Pacquaio and he's making all this stupid demands. Pacquiao is the greatest fighter in boxing right now even if he doesn't fight Mayweather in March 13, 2010.
Posted By: Fern's Big Daddy (Guest) on December 25, 2009 at 09:26 PM
For the "Record" Manny right now is a bigger draw than Floyd is period.
Exhibit A - For the Cotto Fight, Manny did 1.25 Million buys and a $8.84 million gate where Mayweather's last fight did a 1 million buy rate and a $6.84 million gate. Floyd also had a better opponent than Manny did, so what is this about Floyd being the bigger draw now?
Mayweather had Marquez who many thought was a top 5-10 pound for pound. Manny had Cotto who is not considered as good, and still drew better.
So what is Floyd's bargaining position again? He isn't a bigger draw than Manny, at this stage of his career.
This whole blood testing stuff is a joke, and frankly I don't blame Manny for not wanting to do it or for thinking about suing Mayweather for defamation. Last I checked nobody outside of Floyd has suspected Manny of doing anything, ever. He has passed every test he has ever taken. To me it just seems Floyd is scared or trying to play some mind games. Good luck with that latter.
Posted By: sho'nuf (Guest) on December 25, 2009 at 09:30 PM
They offered him $10 million for a positive test, but only if they got to control when the tests were done. Seems like an empty offer.
Posted By: Rod Oracheski (Registered) on December 26, 2009 at 02:26 AM
I am a huge boxing fan but I would not want to see a Paulie vs Pac fight. I honestly think that Floyd is trying to get out of this fight with Pacman. Since boxing has been around no championship fight has used olympic testing for a fight. Floyd thinks he is bigger then boxing itself. What is the last time he fought a legitimite 147 to 154 pound guy besides Oscar. The way I see it if the test is done before or after the fight something will show up. If Pac is on steroids it will show up you cant rinse it out of your system in a day or two. Floyd get in the ring and fight stop the running around the ring and get in the ring
Posted By: Guest#7623 (Guest) on December 26, 2009 at 11:14 AM
"I honestly think that Floyd is trying to get out of this fight with Pacman."
Floyd's not the one that refused the testing.
Posted By: Rod Oracheski (Registered) on December 26, 2009 at 03:15 PM
For the "Record" Manny right now is a bigger draw than Floyd is period.
Exhibit A - For the Cotto Fight, Manny did 1.25 Million buys and a $8.84 million gate where Mayweather's last fight did a 1 million buy rate and a $6.84 million gate. Floyd also had a better opponent than Manny did, so what is this about Floyd being the bigger draw now?
Mayweather had Marquez who many thought was a top 5-10 pound for pound. Manny had Cotto who is not considered as good, and still drew better.
So what is Floyd's bargaining position again? He isn't a bigger draw than Manny, at this stage of his career.
This whole blood testing stuff is a joke, and frankly I don't blame Manny for not wanting to do it or for thinking about suing Mayweather for defamation. Last I checked nobody outside of Floyd has suspected Manny of doing anything, ever. He has passed every test he has ever taken. To me it just seems Floyd is scared or trying to play some mind games. Good luck with that latter.
Posted By: sho'nuf (Guest) on December 25, 2009 at 09:30 PM
Nice Try but NO.. Manny AND Cotto drew alot of money to a highly publicized and antipated fight that either man (in some peoples view) had a great chance at winning. Each have an eye catching style thus easy 2 sell. Floyd sold a fight against a GREAT Super Featherweight. As great as Marquez I didnt see a line of people saying he had a chance 2 win. Throw in the fact that both are excellent counterpunchers and Floyds defense and its NOWHERE near as apealing Pac/Cotto, and the numbers are still close..
Posted By: Guest#8557 (Guest) on December 26, 2009 at 04:38 PM
Its because Mayweather is going well would make tons of money after he beats manny, Letting manny test positive is letting him cheat and not getting a fair fight could tarnish the kings perfect record Which just cant happen
Posted By: Guest#2707 (Guest) on December 26, 2009 at 06:14 PM
Nice Try but NO.. Manny AND Cotto drew alot of money to a highly publicized and antipated fight that either man (in some peoples view) had a great chance at winning. Each have an eye catching style thus easy 2 sell. Floyd sold a fight against a GREAT Super Featherweight. As great as Marquez I didnt see a line of people saying he had a chance 2 win. Throw in the fact that both are excellent counterpunchers and Floyds defense and its NOWHERE near as apealing Pac/Cotto, and the numbers are still close..
Posted By: Guest#8557 (Guest) on December 26, 2009 at 04:38 PM
This was Floyd's combeack fight after being inactive for 2 years. If he was that big a draw, that alone should have drawn a huge audience, and it did draw. It DID NOT draw to the level Floyd likes to put himself on however as the one people have to bow down to in negotiations because of who he is.
Go check that Ricky Hatton numbers, they did about even business Manny and Floyd.
Both Floys and Manny had 2 fights after they fought De la Hoya. Manny has drawn more people to PPV than Floys has
Mayweather Fights after De la Hoya
Juan Manuel Marquez - 1,050,000
Ricky Hatton - 925,000
Pacquiao Fights after De la Hoya
Miguel Cotto - 1,250,000
Ricky Hatton - 850,000
So where is Floyd this historic boxing draw that he claims to be, where he can made ridiculous demands like this? I dont see it. Sounds to me like he just doesn't want the fight.
Posted By: sho'nuf (Guest) on December 26, 2009 at 07:49 PM
This was Floyd's combeack fight after being inactive for 2 years. If he was that big a draw, that alone should have drawn a huge audience, and it did draw. It DID NOT draw to the level Floyd likes to put himself on however as the one people have to bow down to in negotiations because of who he is.
Go check that Ricky Hatton numbers, they did about even business Manny and Floyd.
Both Floys and Manny had 2 fights after they fought De la Hoya. Manny has drawn more people to PPV than Floys has
Mayweather Fights after De la Hoya
Juan Manuel Marquez - 1,050,000
Ricky Hatton - 925,000
Pacquiao Fights after De la Hoya
Miguel Cotto - 1,250,000
Ricky Hatton - 850,000
So where is Floyd this historic boxing draw that he claims to be, where he can made ridiculous demands like this? I dont see it. Sounds to me like he just doesn't want the fight.
I will agree that Floyd isnt the star HE thinks he is but the man is a good seller of his fights. He's no De La Hoya or Tyson in terms of star power, but 2 have such a non crowd pleasing style he's doing something right. Maybe he doesnt want the fight but IMO not being a huge fan of either guy, I think Floyds the better fighter so he shouldnt be afraid..
Posted By: Clubber Lang (Guest) on December 27, 2009 at 01:19 AM
Strange that in the new ESPN article, the Mayweather camp says they agreed to the $10 million penalty. Someone's lying about it.
Posted By: Rod Oracheski (Registered) on December 27, 2009 at 03:43 AM
It's be stupid for Floyd not to make sure that Manny is completely clean for the fight. His career and probably $40 million rides on it
Posted By: scipio2009 (Guest) on December 25, 2009 at 02:28 PM
wow, seriously?
Posted By: Guest#6258 (Guest) on December 27, 2009 at 10:06 PM