411 Games Top 5 Week 16 6.18.09: Crossover Edition
Posted by Todd Vote on 06.18.2009
From Metal Gear Solid/Splinter Cell and Half-Life/Halo to Mortal Kombat characters in Street Fighter and even Final Fantasy characters in Target Terror, 411's Game Staffers rank the top game crossovers they want to see in the latest edition of the 411 Games Top Five!
It's that time of the week again. Time for another exciting edition of the 411 Games Top 5. E3 news is finally starting to die down, and the top 5 is back to it's normal format, plus the point system that everyone loves so much is back.
Have you ever wondered how the chubby little plumber would fair in the fast paced world of Sonic the Hedgehog? Maybe you've thought about what how square Lara Croft would be if she got a Lego game? Being somewhat inspired by console exclusive characters popping up in other games, like Mario vs. Sonic, or the numerous bonus characters in Soul Caliber, that's what this week is about. This week the 411 games staff bring you a little bit of fantasy booking, as we discuss the top 5 video game crossovers we would love to see, and why.
So without further ado, let's get things rolling with Adam Larck. Adam's was a beast when it came to keeping the site updated with E3 news, and we all thank him for that. Adam, what do you got for us?
Adam Larck
HONORABLE MENTIONS
Burnout/Gran Turismo - This is just entertainment value for me. Spend outrageous amounts of money customizing a vehicle to top performance and design, and then take it to the streets for destruction. Cause the most chaos to make more money, rinse and repeat. I had plenty of burnouts and crashes in GT without it being the focus, maybe now I could be rewarded for shitty driving 10 points.
Who are you betting on?
5.Metal Gear Solid/Splinter Cell - You have two veterans of stealth combined into one game. The question is what they would do. Would they team up to take on Metal Gear, or would they see each other as rivals and try to eliminate each other? There are a lot of ways this game could go, but I'd personally like to see some Spy vs. Spy type of gameplay.
4.Dead Rising/Left 4 Dead - We know how Frank West did in a mall full of thousands of zombies, but how would he do with three other people and no extra items to pick up. With a set amount of weapons, he'd have to stop relying on quantity and start relying on teamwork. They could implement the photo minigame still to help expose weaknesses in the special infected and maybe even make a whole new area based around the mall. Fun times for all when it comes to the destruction of zombies. Okay, this sounds awesome. Frank would be right at home with Left 4 Dead 2's frying pan melee. 15 points
3.Metroid/Mega Man - Let's pit the two arm-gun wielding heroes together, shall we. Make it a 2D game like Super Metroid, where players can either switch between the two heroes to solve the various puzzles or just use the characters in different parts of the game as they move closer to find each other and what happened. With each character getting their own power-ups as the game goes on, the strengths of each character could be used a lot as the game goes on.
2.Virtua Fighter/Tekken - I paired these two fighters together because they're the most realistic ones. No weapons being used, no fireballs being thrown (… mostly), just hand-to-hand fighting. Let's see which group has the best martial arts skills. I think the two groups are diverse enough to give fans of both a reason to check this game out. Tekken fighters would destroy the VF team. by at least 30 points.
1.Half-Life/Halo - Gordon Freeman is used to fighting aliens. Let's see how he handles it when it becomes a different group of aliens. A crowbar can only get him so far this time. He'd have to adapt to their own technology and the strange environment of the Halo rings to come out victorious this time. A special appearance by Master Chief can be made to keep all the fanboys happy.
I got to say, some of your choices are really interesting. Even with no mention of THE MOST WANTED crossover ever, your list manages 55 points. Up next is Mr. Salmela and his assistant Shaq. (thank god he doesn make his assistant wear a dress, or we could all be in for sore eyes.) Mark recently did some work for all of you PS3 owners who think there aren't any good games on the system. Be sure to check out B3yond's Top 10 PS3 games. Mark, what did you and the man without an NBA title bring us this week?
Your local B3yond the Report team: Mark Salmela and Shaq
HONORABLE MENTIONS:
Shaq in Dead or Alive - Shit yeah! I'd love to grab me a handful of DAT ASS! The term fish out of water comes to mind on this one. 5 points
5.) Mario in Leisure Suit Larry - A-MAMA-MIA! PRINCESS what-ah ya wearing? You're a pervert. Yes, yes I am. Besides, we all know Princess Daisy Ass-face is the slut of the mushroom kingdom. Don't tell me… I was powering up on that ass all night long. But did you have any mushrooms before hand?
Capcom? Are you going to make this happen or what?
4.) Mortal Kombat characters in Street Fighter - I know Todd is a big fan of this one. Scorpion would rip the spine out of Ryu and wear it as a necklace. Lame energy balls that dissipate before breaking the skin have nothing on spears that rip skin apart. You think Chung-Li's massive horse thighs could withstand Baraka's blades? You think you could survive Chung-Li's massive horse thighs? Must resist urge to hand out millions of points..... Okay, f*ck it. Here is 30 points.
3.) Cooking Mama in God of War - I HELP YOU NOW! If I ever saw that crazy whore I would run in fear. So when is Drinking Papa going to come to the US? Hopefully soon. I can't wait for Drinking Papa, where you play as the 8 year old daughter who has to mix different drinks for Drinking Papa before he beats you. Wow.... just wow... here take these 5 points and get the hell out of here. You're starting to scare the younger readers.
2.) Final Fantasy characters in Target Terror - I'd love to blow Cloud's fucking head off in Target Terror. I don't care how many hit points those bastards have, no one can withstand 5 automatic RPG missiles to the face. Shit, can't argue with you there Salmela. Final Fantasy is for pussies. You see? This is why Salmela is awesome. 20 points! FYI Mark, you can kill "Cloud Strife" in Eat Lead: The Return of Matt Hazard
1.) Shaq in a good game - Bwuahahaha Fuck you Salmela! I've been in more games than you can count. Shaq Fu Shaqy! Shaq Fu! I've been an absolute monster in every game I've been in. I am the Chuck Norris of video games. Yeah, but you're Glass Joe when it comes to the NBA. I'm handing Mark and Shaq 10 bonus points because this whole list had me rollin
Okay, Salms & Shaq finish this week with a very solid 70 points, which puts them in the lead this week. Up next is Top 5 mainstay Armando Rodriguez, be sure to check out his review of Infamous, right here of 411 Games. Armando, hit us with the list.
Armando Rodriguez:
Honorable Mentions:
Sonic in Resident Evil: What could be more fun than seeing Sonic being ripped apart by zombies?
Raiden in InFamous: Replace Cole with the God of Thunder and see what happens. Hell, we could have a classic battle between Raiden and Evil Cole.
Raiden (MSG) in Ninja Gaiden: He is already a cyber-ninja of sorts. It could be all sorts of awesome to see him in Ninja Gaiden, although I have a feelign this one will come true sooner than later. Metal Gear Solid: Rising could be what you are looking for. 10 points
5. Leon Kennedy in Dead Space: We have seen Leon battle zombies and whatever the enemies in RE4 are (they still look like zombies) so why not see him battle aliens/monsters in space? If such a crisis happened in real life you would like to send in someone with experience in dealing with this sort of supernatural things, why not Leon?
Chief rides a hover board in Unreal Tournament
4. Master Chief in Unreal Tournament: He already has the looks and the badassery. Of course, the competitors in UT are extremely fast and cheap, so Master Chief would have to adapt and face an enemy that has the firepower to stop him. I can see this happening with the Chief as a bonus character in a future UT for Xbox.
3. Kratos in Mortal Kombat: Tell me this is not an awesome idea. In the next MK (by whoever gets the license from Midway) Sony licenses Kratos to them as a special bonus character for the PS3 version. Kratos has the looks of an MK kombatant anyway and I am sure he can mop the floor with all of them! (Sorry Todd, but Kratos is a bad ass!). The potential matchups against Shao Kahn, Goro, Motaro, Liu Kang, Raiden, etc. are just too awesome to pass up. Agreed, Kratos is a bad-ass. Also agreed that he could probably whoop the majority of the cast... Except Scorpion, he's harsh like Judd Nelson in The Breakfast Club. 15 points
2. Mario & Sonic in an adventure game: As much as I hate Sonic lately, it would be awesome if they made an adventure game with both heroes. Maybe some sort of reality bending machine that Robotnik (screw Eggman!) makes and ends up creating a paralel world that combines Mushroom Kingdom and whatever fancy island Sonic is crusing at the time.
1. Street Fighter vs Mortal Kombat: Please let this happen! How hard can it be to replace the DC Universe characters with SF characters? The SF characters lack fatalities but have some sort of Ultra-Combo-Brutality thing that looks awesome, while we get to finally find out how it looks when Sub-Zero rips off Ryu's head/spine. Armando, you're gonna make Toddo tear up... 30 points
Another list of great ideas. I really think I could dig Kratos in an MK game. As long as he was able to use his Blades of Athena, otherwise he would be outmatched. Armando's list gives him 55 points, which leaves Team S&S (Salms & Shaqy) as our leaders still. Up next is the man who writes Brace for Impact for the Wrestling Zone. If you haven't checked it out, I urge you to do so, as it is one of the most unique wrestling recaps on the entire internets. Chris your up.
Holy Hell!! That picture alone is worth negative 10 points
The Lansdell approaches!
There will be no Spectral Force 3 on this list. It cannot be crossed with anything, for its greatness would consume all characteristics of all other games.
Honorable Mentions
Target: Terror-Winnie the Pooh's Rumbly Tumbly Adventure - A match made in heaven Shoot through level after level of bees as you rescue your friends and save the world from a honey shortage brought about by terrorist bees. In between levels Christopher Robin gives you status updates, and your smart bomb is Tigger bouncing on all the enemies on-screen.
Paperboy - Grand Theft Auto - Build a vast empire of news journal delivery technicians and their secret ties to organized crime. Upgrade your bike after new and more challenging missions, using your pinpoint throwing accuracy to deliver the news and take out key targets or deliver packages. Skip off school for big jobs, but make sure your parents don't catch on or you'll have to fast-talk your way out, or worse yet: escape being grounded AND buy/steal a new bike! Or simply explore the city on your tricked-out BMX. The choice...is yours Gangsta paperboy, Toddo likes. 10 points
5. Bomberman-Portal: OK enough with the joke entries. This might seem like an odd combination, but the multiplayer would be off the charts. Send bombs through portals. Get trapped, set a portal, walk into a bomb. Legendary games tend to be simple, and this one might just be adding one dimension too many...but I'd play it.
4.Bushido Blade-Masters of Teras Kasi: Very few people will remember MoTK, the first (and in my memory ONLY) beat 'em up set in the Star Wars universe. There's a reason for that: it blew. On the other hand, Bushido Blade did not. Combining the Star Wars setting with the most unique fighting game system ever, along with an expanded cast of characters and a way to compensate for the inability to use the Force of people like Han Solo, would be the most markworthy, obscenely awesome game in the history of video games. 15 points for Han Solo. The rest of this only gets 5 points.
3. Fable 2 - Knights of the Old Republic 2: Yet more Star Wars geekery. Fable 2 was an excellent RPG in that you truly got the ability to shape your character any way you wanted: from mass murderer to saint and anything in between. KOTOR2 was really little more than an interactive movie with timed button presses, but it was set in the Star Wars universe.If only it had the character development of Fable, allowing you to become Jedi or Sith, healer or diplomat or warrior. And I could slice civilians far easier with an orange lightsaber. Yeah, orange. Got a problem with that? An orange light saber and a dog. Sounds like life's essentials to me. 10 points
2.Super Mario Brothers 2 AND 3-Fighting Force: Hey look, another shitty game paired with a great one. Fighting Force took a long-dead genre (side-scrolling beat 'em ups) and tried to revive it on PSX. FAIL. It was fun briefly, and in multiplayer, but the novelty quickly wore off. How do you fix that? Give us Mario characters! None of the fancy-schmancy techno stuff you find in Super Smash Brothers, just good old side-scrolling goomba bashing featuring Mario, Luigi, Toad, Yoshi, a host of suits and power-ups (who doesn't want to use a tanooki suit again???) and familiar enemies. God, now I want to go and learn coding, just to make this!
1. Smackdown vs Raw 2009 - Street Fighter 4: I have always wanted to be able to completely customise a fighter in an SF game. Smackdown vs Raw always provided a heavy dose of customisation with the create-a-wrestler, and expanded that this year with the ability to create your own finisher. It was awesome. Now expand it again to create many moves, add them to a Street Fighter environment, and go throw stuff at Guile's head. Cos he's sucked since SF 2 Championship Edition. Create modes are almost a necessity in this day and age, and this is a good idea. 15 points
Opening with a picture like that really cost Chris this week, as he finishes with only 45 points. Is it possible a Spectral Force 3 crossover would have saved him? I doubt it. But it would have been worth a shot.
Up next is Jordan Williams. You may know him from the always interesting Working Title. This past week he talked about whether or not Left for Dead 2 was coming too soon. I say absolutely not. People getting pissied at Valve for releasing a sequel so soon have been spoiled. But thats a conversation for a different time, Jordan, take it away.
Jordan "Ogre" Williams
HONORABLE MENTIONS
Marvel vs. DC? Yes please!
Marvel vs. DC - If it ever did happen, I know I would shit myself silly but I think part of the fun of this game is that we know it will NEVER happen. This way there will always be tons of arguments in Comic Book stores that will always go without an answer. Comic book geeks and video game geeks alike just built an idol to you Mr. Williams. Me? I'll give ya 10 points.
5.Mario Kart and Sonic The Hedgehog - This is such an obvious idea I honestly don't understand WHY it hasn't been made. We have Mario and his crew, in thier various cars and bikes along with Sonic and his gang who are so fast (most of them) don't NEED cars. Pit them against eachother in the race to end all races to give us that Mario vs. Sonic game we've all really wanted. Not some Olympic busheet.
4.Megaman and Viewtiful Joe - It dosen't make sense right away...well. It never will make sense but you look me right in the eye and tell me that watching Megaman and the over the top VJ team up for an epic adventure through Dr. Wily's Movie World (with movie cliche based robots) wouldn't be the most awesome thing you've seen since my next choice. That way Megaman and Joe could both use powers taken from the bosses in order to stop Wily as he tries to make his Movie World bleed into the real world. It might not be that 3rd VJ game we have always wanted but it will be damn close. Indeed this would kick ass, and it also nets you another 20 points
3.The Subspace Emissary 2 - No Smash Bros. No 4 Player Fighting. More Storyline. Final Destination. I don't have any idea what you are talking about... here have 5 points, just don't tell anyone.
2.Tomb Raider + Silent Hill - You know, I really don't like Lara Croft...so watching her run around with all of her flippy fanservice glory in a Silent Hill-like place would just make my day. Of course, if they really had to make it into a good game I am sure they could do something to work it out. Perhaps for once instead of going to foregin countries and what not Lara can find something deep and hidden in the good ole US of A. (Yes, I know she is French.)
1.Def Jam vs. WWE - I love the Def Jam fighting series (sans ICON) and I actually like the new SvR games...but I think it's high time for WWE to forget this whole "simulation wrasslin' bullshit and make another over the top wacky and crazy game like the Arcade games of yesteryear. And the funny thing is the only people who seem to be able to make a GOOD over the top wacyk wrestling game are the guys holding the license to the Def Jam games. Not only can you toss those guys in (Redman and Methodman vs. Cryme Tyme = MONEY) but just think off the cross promotion abilities and just how fun it will be to do a Pedigree while Trips jumps 5 feet in the air or have Undertaker chokeslam Ludacris straight to hell...complete with fire and brimstone. I know you gaming industry guys read this, we have the emails to prove it...so someone GET IN ON THIS I wasn't on board with this idea till I seen Cryme Tyme vs. Red & Meth. 30 points
Alright, Jordan wraps up our contributions for this week, and does so in impressive fashion with 65 points. Thanks Ogre.
Todd Vote
5. Kratos in Ninja Gaiden /Ryu in God of War: This would settle a personal argument for me and a friend, he thinks that Ryu Hayabusa could whoop Kratos in a fight, citing that Ryu is a ninja, and he killed the devil. my response is usually somewhere along the lines of "Kratos kills Gods, and mythical creatures, and that is all before he takes his morning crap."
Best way to solve it would probably be just for me and my friend to agree to disagree? I say funk dat! Let's drop each character into the others world and see who fares better. Whoever comes out on top *cough* Kratos *cough*, would prove to be the baddest of the bad.
4. The cast of WCW Nitro appearing in Smackdown vs. Raw: It's no secret that Vince and company really screwed the pooch when it came to the invasion storyline. Due to that, THQ may have missed a boat on another sure fire hit. We never got that long sought after WCW vs. WWE video game, and there was a perfect opportunity to do it once Vince bought up WCW. But, I guess it was never meant to be. We had to settle for an influx of WCW talent into our regular Smackdown series. I still think this is an idea that could work, if Vince was to ever sign enough former WCW talents to legends contracts.
3. Sonic the Hedgehog in Super mario Galaxy 2: Why? So Sonic can remember what it was like to be in a good game!
2. Godzilla Destroy All Monsters vs. SNK's King of the Monsters: I think this would be an absolute blast. You take some of the most famous movie monsters of all time, and you drop them into one of the best "giant fighting monsters" game I've ever had the privelage to play. Humongous rubber monster free for all!! Yeah, I like monster movies. What of it?
1. MK vs. Street Fighter: Anyone who doubted what my number one would be has been living under a rock for the past 16 weeks. It's no secret that I think Capcom needs to buy MK and make this game a reality. It would sell ELEVENTY BILLION copies solely on the name value of both franchises.
And that about wraps it up for this week. Mark and Shaq barely take the win with 70 points, but they had Ogre gaining on them the whole time. Congratulations to the B3yond the Report team for securing another victory in the top 5.
There you have it folks. Another addition of the top 5 put to bed. it was kind of fun doing a bit of fantasy booking in the games universe. Hope you all enjoyed reading it as much as we enjoyed writing it up. What crossovers did we leave out? What franchises would you mix and match to different degrees of awesomeness? Let us know in the comments section. We will see you all back here next week, where we tackle a more puzzling issue, until then take care.
Bonus Video of the Week: Kratos vs. Ryu Hayabusa in a stop motion battle
i'm calling bullshit on that video!
Hayabusa would of so fucking OWN'D Kratos!
D:
Posted By: Thomas (Guest) on June 17, 2009 at 11:25 PM
They did make Def Jam vs WWE, it was called No Mercy. Only reason I got into those early Def Jam games was because of the phenomenal engine they carried over from the N64 titles. Mmm... I miss those games.
Posted By: Deathpool (Guest) on June 18, 2009 at 01:13 AM
I, too call utter horse crap on that ending.
Posted By: With Electric Fire (Guest) on June 18, 2009 at 01:13 AM
"3.The Subspace Emissary 2 - No Smash Bros
. No 4 Player Fighting. More Storyline. Final Destination."
Thank you.
Posted By: Guest#1451 (Guest) on June 18, 2009 at 01:37 AM
You suck Vote. You SUCK. That picture is epic and CLEARLY worth eleventy billion points. As is the mention of Masters of Teras Kasi. And I defy you, DEFY YOU, to say you wouldn't mark out for Mario spin-kicking a koopa troopa through a plate glass window.
Posted By: Lansdellicious (Guest) on June 18, 2009 at 04:55 AM
Tearas Kasi was cool. Thats why you got 20 points ass.
Posted By: Todd Vote (Registered) on June 18, 2009 at 10:08 AM
Kratos would whoop that Ryu, Ryu from Street Fighter, and two other random Ryu's without batting an eye.
Posted By: Todd Vote (Registered) on June 18, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Tearas Kasi was cool. Thats why you got 20 points ass.
Posted By: Todd Vote (Registered) on June 18, 2009 at 10:08 AM
No I didn't. I got 10 points for an orange lightsaber and a dog. I WANT MY 20 EXTRA POINTS!
Posted By: Lansdellicious (Guest) on June 18, 2009 at 04:53 PM
Kratos would whoop that Ryu, Ryu from Street Fighter, and two other random Ryu's without batting an eye.
Posted By: Todd Vote (Registered) on June 18, 2009 at 10:12 AM
The Hayabusa has waged war on countless armies and demons, felled numerous dark gods and interdimensional warships without having to fall back numerous holy weapons or godly-assists. My money's still on the ninja.
Posted By: With Electric Fire (Guest) on June 18, 2009 at 08:13 PM
I'll go with the MK vs SF for my number 1 too, todd, even though i think scorpion and sub-zero are the only characters i really give a chance to, I mean really, Alex, Zangeif, and Hugo ALONE would destroy any MK close range characters, and every four-armed/centaur included, and no MK evil compares to Bison and Gill, not Tsung, not Khan, not Quan Chi, not Shinnok...o yea p.s. hayabusa would destroy kratos, kratos seems too boneheaded but great column peeps and salms and shaqy needs a primetime pilot STAT!
Posted By: nic (Guest) on June 18, 2009 at 08:22 PM
Chung-Li ???
one of the most iconic female videogame character and you don't know her name....epic fail.
Posted By: Guest#4329 (Guest) on June 18, 2009 at 10:00 PM
"Tearas Kasi was cool. Thats why you got 20 points ass.
Posted By: Todd Vote (Registered) on June 18, 2009 at 10:08 AM
No I didn't. I got 10 points for an orange lightsaber and a dog. I WANT MY 20 EXTRA POINTS!"
You are talking about two different sets of points sir.
@ Nic; I think that Shang Tsung, and Shao Kahn conquest ambitions are much larger in scope than Bisons or Gills. Interdimensional conquest just screams more evil than just wanting to take over one world.
If Scorpion and Sub-Zero are the only ones you would give a fair chance to, what do you do about all the other pallette swapped ninjas?
@ With Electric Fire: The hayabusa may have done that, but by the time it is all said and done, Kratos will be responsible for the fall of Greek Mythology. It'd be a fight I'd love to see, nobody is ever going to agree on the subject, but it is fun to debate.
Finally @ Guest#4329: Huh? What are you reading sir?
Posted By: Todd Vote (Registered) on June 19, 2009 at 01:08 PM
Since the 10th Hour seems to be done, I guess I'll post my lists that no one cares about in these top 5 lists. Note: my lists will generally contain less mentions of Target Terror and Shaquille O'Neal.
As for my top 5 games that I personally want to be blended for my own personal enjoyment... okay, I couldn't fit it all, so I'll shorten two:
5. Looney Tunes added into Kingdom Hearts
4. Smackdown vs RAW with both FirePro Wrestling and EWR/TEW
3. Super Mario with Ape Escape - Yes please. Jut make Donkey Kong the final boss with the other major Kongs as the other bosses, as you travel between all of the goofy, themed worlds (Mario Worlds and various Ape Escape themes like movies and TV shows), fighting Koopa Troopas and catching various monkeys. The monkeys replace the star system, showing up when you perform certain tasks or just being there doing silly things to make you life before they bust out their uzis and start shooting at you. The various Mario costumes would help you get to hard to reach monkeys as well.
2. Kessen Warriors - You can figure out the two KOEI games being blended here for yourself. The Dynasty Warriors series needs an upgrade and I wouldn't mind having much more control over the whole battlefield, positioning the other generals and officers where I want them to go. The Kessen games were decent, but when playing them I wished for more control over the officer I had switched to, like the control you'd have in the DW games. Put them together and you could have a great action strategy game.
1. World of Warcraft with Dungeon Siege - I played WoW off and on for a few years and noticed two major things about the game. For one, I loved all of the different things I could do, the in-depth characterization, the Warcraft world, the Diablo-inspired elements such as skill trees and item sets, and the great environments in the massive game. The second thing I really took notice of... I HATE PEOPLE! I was sick of not being able to run dungeons because groups were hard to form, or would crumble when one left halfway through the run. I hated the fact that I couldn't go at my own pace and would have to devote extra time to the game in the hopes of getting things accomplished. To solve this problem... make it a single player game and give me customizable bots! I loved the Battlegrounds but got sick of the Horde losing at the level 70 ones when n00bs showed up with the new Blood Elf class, which took away all of the fun of the game. If I had my own set of bots with deep customization and the ability to switch between them on the fly, as well as being able to pause the game or save my exact location to go back to it later, I would have had much more fun with the game and not having to deal with other people. I'm such a loner.
Posted By: RavenTazECW (Registered) on June 20, 2009 at 12:01 AM