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Four Player Co-Op 01.26.10: Motion Control, Bad Spiderman Games, Metal Gear Solid Movie, More
Posted by Stephen Randle on 01.26.2010






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QUESTION ONE: Sony has announced that their motion controller will be released around the same time as Microsoft's Project Natal, but won't reveal any details about the peripheral. So, will either replace the Wiimote as your waggle device of choice?


Todd Vote
Not sure how either could replace something that I don't have. I'll admit when the Wiimote was first announced, I was excited about the potential. Then it happened, and it was cool, but more of a gimmick than a staple of the future of gaming. Of the two mentioned above, Natal seems to have the most potential to change the way we play games. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Sony include some sort of motion control in the original PS3 controller? How'd that work out for them?

While I won't be rushing out to buy Natal, I do see the potential there, and will be keeping a very watchful eye on the technology. If the Milo demo from last years E3 is any indication, we could be in for some great things as gamers.


Armando Rodriguez
Unless they come up with some awesome, innovative stuff, I will not play Project Natal or Sony's motion controller. I sold my Wii because I hated waggling.


Sean Garmer
Since I saw Natal at E3, I've said that very well has the potential to replace the Wii. Microsoft seems to be taking Natal very seriously by almost making it another system entirely. It's hands free and has a setup that makes Natal feel important. Games developed for Natal will bring another dimension to interactivity because your whole body is used here. Also, you can scan your own stuff into games, I mean who hasn't wanted to do that forever? Will everyone that owns a Wii all the sudden stop using the system and go buy Natal? No, but I wouldn't be surprised if over time it does hurt the Wii a lot. As far as PS3's remotes go, they be technically better than the Wii's, but I need to see a statement about high end games being made with those controls. To be honest, those remotes look like just nicer looking versions of a Wii Remote, and will be seen by most as just a cheap way for Sony to try to crack the casual market.


Stephen Randle
I totally bought the Wii for motion control. That said, I bought a PS3 for the games that don't require motion control to play, so I don't care if they release a waggle device or not. Hell, the only time I even know that the PS3 has that whole SIXAXIS thing is when aiming grenades in Uncharted. Project Natal is intriguing, but Microsoft isn't getting any of my money as long as they prove they can't stop the RROD.

QUESTION TWO: Activision publically admitted that all their Spiderman games for the last five years (Friend or Foe, Web of Shadows, and Spiderman 3) have, and I quote, "sucked". Try and respond without saying "well, duh".


Todd Vote
They haven't out and out sucked. There have been some good ideas implemented in each new title. The free flow combat for instance. But overall, since Spiderman 2, Web head's games have been less than stellar. You think game publishers might finally be realizing that less is more when it comes to releasing a new title in a franchise? I doubt it, but I dream of the day.


Armando Rodriguez
Well duh! I don't know if they changed the team responsible for those games, but Spiderman is divided in two: The PSOne games rocked and the PS2 and onwards (with the exception of the one based on Spiderman 2) sucked. I guess it is safe to say that it has to do with the development teams. I think Treyarch did some Spiderman before, so why not put Treyarch to work on Spiderman and leave Call of Duty for Infinity Ward? All of us would be happier that way!


Sean Garmer
Ever since Marvel Ultimate Alliance I started having faith in movie games, and The X-Men Movie Game also helped that. However, it's stuff like Ironman and these Spiderman titles that once again show that these movie games are nothing more than a ploy to gain a cheap dollar. Not that there is anything wrong with that, if a company is willing to spend that much to make a crappy game, then go ahead.


Stephen Randle
Don't look at me, for me the Spiderman games begin and end with Maximum Carnage and the swank red cartridge. Although what I saw of the original Spiderman movie game was pretty good too.

QUESTION THREE: Hanbitsoft has acquired the rights to defunct online PC game Hellgate: London, the only game ever released by Flagship Studios (aka a bunch of guys who left Diablo II), and is planning to relaunch an updated game in late 2010, this time offering free play instead of a subscription-based system. Interest piqued?:


Todd Vote
Nope, as per usual, I will keep my gaming console based for the time being. I just don't have a PC that can support gaming, or I'd definitely give it a shot. As it sits right now, I don't see things changing in the near future. I do like the idea of free to play instead of subscriptions though.


Armando Rodriguez
Not really. Hellgate: London tried to be something like Diablo from the first person. Funny thing is that between Hellgate: London's original release and the release of this "updated" game a little gem called Boderlands was released. If I wanted Diablo from the first person, I would simply buy Borderlands.


Sean Garmer
Personally, I don't care for PC games at all. So I could care infinito about this. Anyone that was a fan of these games probably has their interest piqued because who wouldn't wanna play the game now that it is free? So even though free doesn't always equal good, it is a game that had a fan base, so it must be some sort of decent.


Stephen Randle
I actually wanted to play this originally, but the subscription cost was prohibitive and I was still playing Diablo II at the time, which had the benefit of being free. Now, with Diablo III not expected until 2011 at the earliest, I'd be willing to give the game from the former DII development team a shot, especially when the price to play is right.

QUESTION FOUR: The list of the top ten highest-selling console games of the last fifteen years has been released. What surprised you the most about the list?


Todd Vote
Honestly, the lack of Halo 3. Though I am not a huge fan of the series, I am surprised to not see Halo 3 on there after the tremendous sales it received. I was also a bit shocked to see all 3 current gen Call of Duty titles on there. That is a feat in and of itself. Treyarch owes Infinity Ward big time for that one.


Armando Rodriguez
That Pac-Man still sells! I know that and Galaga is the only reason Namco Museum cracked the Top 10. But it also proved me wrong: I once stated that in spite of being the console with the highest install base, the Wii games rarely cracked Top 10 lists. Well, Wii Play is #1 all time! Plus, Wii Fit and Mario Kart also cracked the list. What is happening to this world?


Sean Garmer
Wii Fit surprises me because it showcases how quickly the Wii became a household name, and how education can have a place in video games. Though it took them another game to get it right its awesome that something as simple as fitness can bring a family together in a game. Obviously the sheer amount of copies that COD MW2 has sold already puts it at #4, that is amazing. Not to mention COD is on there two other times. I didn't know GH had sold that many copies to place it at #2, they brought music to the gaming market and now it is a full fledged genre of gaming that is seeing its own overrun of games. Namco Museum being on the list is just funny, because after all these years it proves that games like Pacman and Dig Dug, though simple, still provide effective fun.


Stephen Randle
I'm surprised that Call of Duty had such a huge presence. I mean, I know it's a popular franchise, I didn't know it was that popular. If you'd asked me what I thought would be on a top 10 list that didn't apparently make the list, I'd have said Halo 2, one of the Tony Hawk game, Rock Band, and probably a Final Fantasy. I also have to be the only person not shocked at the massive Wii presence.

QUESTION FIVE: The Metal Gear Solid movie is dead. React appropriately.


Todd Vote
Ah, bummer dude, fuckin Hollywood man. Always making sequels to crappy movies, and never making anything good. No seriously, if you were looking forward to this movie, take a step back… look at previous video game to movie adaptations…. Now thank the gods that this movie is dead. There is no way any screenwriter in Hollywood could ever grasp the story of this franchise, none that the studio would hire anyway. Blessing in disguise.


Armando Rodriguez
OH GOD YES!!! Movie people, stay as far away from my beloved Metal Gear Solid! I would love a movie, sure.....but I don't trust Hollywood with the story and I am terrified that whoever does it feeds us an Uwe Boll-sized pile of crap. I'd rather never get the movie at all!


Sean Garmer
Damn, that really sucks because this was the one franchise besides HALO that could provide a huge platform for video games to cross into the film arena. Metal Gear has a story written for the big screen and I hope they will eventually one day revive it.


Stephen Randle
You mean Metal Gear Solid wasn't already a movie? I kid, I kid. I don't understand the number of video game franchises that have turned into awful, awful movies. I mean, it's not like they don't already have the script that was used to make the video game itself popular. But no, we have to get Doom with no demons or Hell, or two horrible Street Fighter films, or the abomination known as Super Mario Bros. I guess from that perspective it's a good thing they didn't try and do Metal Gear Solid, but on the other hand, maybe one day Hollywood will surpise us.

BONUS QUESTION: God of War III or Dante's Inferno?


Todd Vote
You might as well ask me if I would prefer a steak dinner or a kick in the nuts. God of War is my most anticipated title of 2010. It's the sole reason I am currently saving for a PS3. Well that and Heavy Rain, but more for GoW.


Armando Rodriguez
God of War a milllion times! I am sure Dante's Inferno will be a good game, but it will never have the perfect example of ultimate bad-ass, the type of man every single human male wants to become, the epitome of awesomeness....Kratos! Seriously, just playing God of War gave me chest hair and a manly beard.


Sean Garmer
Personally I wanna play Dante's Inferno more because I read the books all through school and I've already played the other GOW's. Plus from what I saw at E3 this is just gonna be one awesome game. I can't wait till it comes out.


Stephen Randle
Well, I did play the Dante's Inferno demo for PS3, and I have to say, I don't remember the original story involving topless ghost chicks and giant bone monsters. Anyway, I'm a Greek mythology freak to begin with, so we're going to go with Kratos all the way.



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whats will all the hate for web of shadows, from what i remember that game was actually pretty good.

Posted By: gooched (Guest)  on January 26, 2010 at 08:19 AM

 
 
Well still say web of Shadows is almost up there with Spider-Man 2. Its only draw backs were the amount of repetition and how short it was to finish. However Spider-Man 2 had repetition issues to me as well but, it just had longer game play thats about all.

Posted By: Guest#3201 (Guest)  on January 26, 2010 at 09:11 AM

 


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