411 Games Fact or Fiction 11.08.11 GTA V, Modern Warfare 3, PS3 and More

Posted by Adam Larck on 11.08.2011

Will Modern Warfare 3 top Battlefield 3's week-long sales? Will the Playstation 3 surpass the Xbox 360? Will Dead World end up being a sequel to Dead Island? 411’s Jordan Williams and Dan Watson debate these topics and more in this week’s 411 Fact or Fiction: Games!

Welcome back to another week of 411 Games Fact or Fiction. I'm Adam Larck, and I'm enjoying the Sims 3 Pets and Batman: Arkham City right now, but my attention will go to Skyrim this week.

This week, we have Dan Watson and Jordan Williams going head-to-head. Let's see how these two do. Time for banner!

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1.) The Grand Theft Auto V trailer got you excited already.

Jordan Williams - Fiction: Being completely honest, from what I saw I wasn't really that excited. It reminded me a lot of the GTAIV trailer that showed off all of the graphics but it didn't really DO anything for me. I'll wait until I see what's going on with the actual game before I get excited. Plus I have some real problems with GTAIV and I really hope there are addressed (Niko being a murderous fucker when not in a mission but the whiniest bastard out of a mission) or at the very least looked into before I get into full hype mode for it. All I can say right now is "Gee, that looks pretty" and that's it.

Dan Watson - Fiction: Honestly, with so little information out there, I just cannot get excited yet. This game could come out in 2013 possibly. There just isn't enough information out there and the trailer really only confirmed the location and that the character is a guy. If more things get released, I would be excited. It probably doesn't help that there are so many other major games coming out this month that are getting me excited, Saints Row the third included.

Score: 1 for 1 - It seemed like your typical GTA teaser trailer. I just want to know how much the economy will factor into the game.



2.) Modern Warfare 3 will sell more than Battlefield 3 did in a week.

Jordan Williams - Fact: As much as I love Battlefield, it's no secret that name recognition goes far nowadays and you just do NOT bet against Call of Duty this generation. I am even inclined to think that Modern Warfare might sell more in its first DAY than BF3 sold in its first week. Even though the war between the two games will be argued forever when it comes down to the brass tacks of how much money one brings in, CoD is going to always win.

Dan Watson - Fact: Modern Warfare 3 will outsell any previous game that has ever come out. The only concern I have for sales in this game is the fact that Skyrim is coming out just a few days later which may prevent some from buying MW3. Overall though, I would bet this game sets records for daily, weekly, and monthly sales.

Score: 2 for 2 - As much as EA wanted to compete this year, I think Modern Warfare will blow them out of the water.



3.) The PS3 will eventually pass the 360 in sales.

Jordan Williams - Fact: But I don't think so in the way some might think. I think we are nearing the end of the Xbox 360 and by 2013 it will gone in favor of the new push for the next console (to be released in 2014). But Sony has a notoriously long tail with its consoles. So I do think the PS3 will hang around long after the end of this generation and EVENTUALLY beat the Xbox 360 in sales, but it will be after the Xbox 360 has left the market proper.

Dan Watson - Fact: There are so many other games coming out just for the Sony console as opposed to Xbox 360 who are relying on bringing back older series that were supposed to be dead or have lost series already. This year Gears of War series ended, Halo is being brought back in what seems like a cash grab effort, and other Microsoft exclusives are just disappearing. Sony is bringing back Twisted Metal, has Resistance, Uncharted, God of War, and a plethora of other games. In addition, their games are still only one disc as opposed to Microsoft, which has many games coming out on multiple discs. I just don't see Microsoft holding the lead forever.

Score: 3 for 3 - Look how long the PS2 sold. If Sony can get the PS3 to that point, then they'll eventually surpass the 360.

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4.) Dead World will end up being a sequel to Dead Island.

Dan Watson - Fact: This seems to be an eventual sequel but don't we need a few steps before then. Maybe Dead Mainland or Dead City and then maybe Dead World. I am hoping there is a sequel next year or the year after. There aren't many great games that are multi-player co-op games anymore but this was one and it was great at it. In the end, I just like playing with friends and kicking zombies so I'm hoping for a sequel.

Jordan Williams - Fact: I actually never got around to playing Dead Island but from all accounts it was certainly popular enough to get a sequel so I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case..

Score: 4 for 4 - It wouldn't surprise me if this was the actual sequel, but it'd be interesting to see how much of the world will actually be explorable.



5.) With Nintendo and Sony both predicting losses this year, Microsoft will follow suit.

Dan Watson - Fiction: Microsoft may go the other route and say look at us we are the best and have won console battle. I am not sure how they are financially but Kinect seems to be taking off in sales and consoles are still selling. Everything seems to be going right for them and they had some major games come out this year so maybe that will translate to sales and money for them.

Jordan Williams - Fact: While I don't think that the losses that Microsoft will suffer will be a bad as the others I still think there will be loses simply because this year more so than others we didn't have that "Year Round" hot streak that we did last year with at least one big game coming out every month for every console. This year is super heavy on the back end and while it will help out the consoles I don't think it's enough to help them not post a loss.

Score: 4 for 5 - I think the big three will all have a loss this year, but I think Microsoft may come out the best of the three.



6.) Skullgirls will really be able to fix some of the problems the fighting game genre has had with balancing.

Dan Watson - Fiction: Until a game gives me a hands-on chance to see how it plays, I am no longer going to think that the video shows that balancing is fixed. I hate that fighting genre has become a sequel genre as of late and hoping that a few new IPs may switch things around. We will see though, but until I get a hands on opportunity, I won't be holding my breath.

Jordan Williams - Fiction: Skullgirls is certainly trying it's ass off and I will give them all the credit in the world. But I think the problem with fighting game balancing isn't so much in the characters being cheap or broken or someone exploiting something. It's all about teaching the players HOW to use the mechanics effectively (and competitively). Which with the limited time I've seen with Skullgirls (They are always a regular on Wednesday Night Fights) I haven't seen any of that. Given it's still and Alpha and we don't know if they have that stuff planned later we don't REALLY know. But what we do know is that all of the balance in the world won't help if the players (new and old alike) don't know what the hell they are doing...or what they CAN do.

Score: 5 for 6 - It'd be great to see some of those problems fixed, but until you see how easy it is to do in action I'll remain doubtful.



Bonus Question) What will you get this week if you get one? Modern Warfare 3 or Skyrim?

Dan Watson - Both: I have been planning a 3 game in 7 day binge for a while. COD, then Skyrim, and then finally Saints Row. I cannot wait until I have all three of these games and can stop budgeting so much for games.

Jordan Williams - Skyrim: MW3 can wait. After a year straight of playing shooting games online with people I just want to sit back and spend some time playing with by myself.

Adam Larck - Skyrim: This is a no contest for me. I have no interest in Modern Warfare 3, and loved Oblivion. I've been looking forward to this since it was announced, and can't wait to get my hands on it this week.

The pair finish this week going 5-for-6. What do you think? Agree or disagree with their answers? Let us know. See you in seven!