411 Games Fact or Fiction 05.15.14 Call of Duty: Ghosts, Destiny, More
Posted by Todd Vote on 05.15.2014
Does Destiny's huge development budget make it a big risk? Is it bad that Call of Duty: Ghosts is the best-selling next-gen game so far? Are we excited for Sunset Overdrive? 411’s Marc Morrison and Dan Watson debate these topics and more!
It's Fact or Fiction time folks, and in case you haven't noticed yet, I am not Dan. Dan is off doing whatever, somewhere that is not here. (Hey, I don't stalk him, if you want that info track him down.) Anyways, I am here to give you your weekly Fact or Fiction fix.
For those of you who don't know me, which could be a lot considering how long it has been since I've had a weekly column, I've been around the site for quite a few years. I used to moderate the Games Top 5, and write reviews for the Games Zone. Since I "retired" from the Top 5, I've stuck to reviews mostly, and have been making pretty regular appearances in the MMA Zone's version of this column. I mention that, because I absent-mindedly only sent out 5 questions to the two participants we have this week. Didn't even think that this version always has six questions.
This week, Dan Watson takes on Marc Morrison. Now, on with the questions!
1.) You're shocked to hear EA will be removing online support for about 50 games in June. Among them Crysis 2 and several FIFA titles.
Marc Morrison - Fiction: To use an aphorism, "This is how EA do". EA is notorious for yanking server/online support for games after two or three years of supporting them. "They run the servers, so they can do what they want", seems to be their motto. You can still boot up Perfect Dark Zero on the 360 and play it online. Try playing a copy of Madden 2007, and seeing how well that works online (it doesn't, it was yanked in 2009). This is all tied into the Gamespy server shutdown and while other companies are taking the time and effort to fixing these issues, EA is keen to just cut their losses and move on. Although, I did like Crysis 2, so that is kind of a bummer.
Dan Watson - Fiction: It's inevitable that EA has to start shrinking some of their online servers with new games on the way and more people playing. I am surprised it's taken so long to do but it seems like every other year EA starts shutting down its servers.
Score: 1 for 1 - I tend to agree with you guys, but I will add that I wonder if perhaps it has something to do with maybe cutting back costs where they can. I suppose if that is the case, it is better to shut down servers than to layoff more employees.
2.) The new gameplay trailer has you excited for Sunset Overdrive.
Marc Morrison - Fiction: While I get a serious Jet Grind Radio vibe off the trailers, the addition of zombies/Left 4 Dead style creatures bores me to tears. Resistance and Ratchet & Clank were fun because while a lot of the game was silly, the characters in the games took it seriously, and never broke the fourth wall. If this was "Saints Row Presents: Sunset Overdrive", then I might be into it, but them trying to say "We got cool weapons" has no cache with me, especially after their Fuse debacle.
Dan Watson - Fact: I like games that are a bit over the top and fun. This seems like a game that you can play and just screw around in for a while and not get bored. At this point, I'm just excited to see a game drop on Xbox One at this point.
Score: 1 for 2 - I'm at least curious enough to keep an eye on the game, it could end up being something unique.
3.) Its a bad sign for the first round of exclusive games, when Call of Duty: Ghosts is the best selling game on both the Xbox One and the PS4.
Marc Morrison - Fiction: To paraphrase a movie, "If they make a Call of Duty game, they will come". This isn't a bad sign for two reasons: 1. CoD fans are fairly loyal and there are a lot of them out there. Like…a lot of them. Even if the game is subpar compared to earlier iterations, CoD is always going to be a massive game seller. 2. The Xbox One first party lineup consisted of Forza, Ryse, Killer Instinct, Dead Rising 3, and Fighter Within. The PS4 lineup might have been even worse with just Killzone, Resogun, and Knack. Those aren't really sterling lineups from either company. There was no Halo, or Super Mario 64 equivalent game that drew universal acclaim from everyone. Every launch game had its flaws, and CoD beating them kind of showed that.
Dan Watson - Fiction: There were no other shooters really released for both consoles. Titanfall wasn't all that great in my opinion. There just weren't many great titles released. So I don't think this was any surprise at all. I'd be willing to bet the next call of duty is the top selling next gen title of the year as well.
Score: 2 for 3 - I tend to think that if a game there is a vocal outcry against as being "same old sh*t", yet it still beats your exclusive new titles, it doesn't speak much to the quality of the exclusives. Perhaps I worded the question wrong, as Marc chose fiction, then spoke of the bad exclusive line-up both consoles had coming out of the gate.
4.) Destiny's $500 million cost makes the game a big risk to Activision.
Dan Watson - Fact: How many titles sell over $500 million at all? This is before even a big marketing push as well. This game won't sell enough to warrant this type of spending at all. I will be interested to see how good this game is though.
Marc Morrison - Fact: Look at how much EA spent on Titanfall. That game did great for about a month, but now, almost no one I know plays it on the Xbox One, or PC (the 360 version never counts). I think the problem with just a multiplayer component is that it doesn't give "noobs" a chance to play or actually like the game. I don't really like CoD's multiplayer, it usually requires too much of a time commitment to get good at it. But I appreciate CoD as a whole because of the single player narratives and that I can have fun playing it. Plus, for some reason Destiny just smacks of a Borderlands/Hellgate: London mishmash which scares me.
Score: 3 for 4 - While this kind of budget always comes with a risk, I'm inclined to think the continued record breaking sales of the Call of Duty franchise is what affords Activision to take these kinds of gambles.
5.) We will see big price cuts for the PS3, and the Xbox 360 announced at this years E3.
Dan Watson - Fact: I'm thinking you will see the price drop by $50 for each console. I think you will see WiiU drop as well. With so many titles coming out for 360 and PS3 it makes sense to build demand by lowering the price.
Marc Morrison - Fact: I think we'll see price cuts of the old consoles, but I'm not sure about how "big" they'll be. Between the two, I'd wager a guess that the PS3 either stays the same, or goes down only like $20, or some small amount. However, I think the Xbox 360 will go down in price, by around $50 or $100. The reason is because they need to get those systems out the door somehow, and it'll generate at least a small amount of revenue & goodwill for them. Plus, I think there is some planned update for the 360 that'll update the dashboard (for a fourth time) to be more in-line with the Xbox One's tile scheme, so they could synergize the update with a new lower price to entice people to upgrade to the Xbox One, eventually.
Score: 4 for 5 - With this week's announcement of the Kinect-less Xbox One, I think a price cut will happen at least for the 360. I would love to see a similar cut on the price of the PS3.
Bonus Question) Speaking of, got any bold E3 predictions?
(Note: Marc answered the question over the weekend, before Microsoft announced the new Xbox model) Marc Morrison - Kinect-less Xbox One. Kinect-less Xbox One. Kinect-less Xbox One. Kinect-less Xbox One. Kinect-less Xbox One. Kinect-less Xbox One. Aside from that, new Halo, Forza Horizon (what I care about), Crackdown 3, Uncharted 4, more Assassin's Creed plans, and who knows, maybe The Last Guardian will be shown? Oh, who am I kidding, it'd be more probable that Sega makes a new home console, then The Last Guardian being shown.
Dan Watson - I think the VR headsets will be the big gimmick of the year. Microsoft and Sony will display some plan in the VR world.
Todd Vote – While I think Dan is probably on to something with the VR idea, I would like to see some announcements on a new Mortal Kombat, and perhaps even a new Injustice game. Hopefully, we will see something from Microsoft about Killer Instinct season 2, and get some info on Quantum Break. On the Sony side, perhaps a PS4 God of War game? We're about due for another one of those, right?
The pair finish this week going 4 for 5. What do you think? Agree or disagree with their answers? Let us know. Mr. Anderson should be back in the drivers seat next week. Take care of yourselves.