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The 10th Hour 04.11.08: Top 10 Things I Don't Miss About Games
Posted by Derek Robbins on 04.11.2008



Hello and welcome to the 10th hour! As always, there are a couple of things that I wish to hit on before I get things rolling.

-I beat Crisis Core last weekend, and my opinion stands. The ending was so strong though, that I've decided to deem it an 8.0. Not bad. I actually re-started FF VII thanks to that ending, a game I thought for sure that I'd never play again, so I really should heap all sorts of praise on it. I really hope they quit jerking the fans around and just announce an FF VII remake since that's what most people want. I personally would be okay with more original games (As long as they don't rape the story like FF VII: Advent Children did), but I'd be lying if I told you I wouldn't buy a remake.

-The Cubs are off to a 5-3 start and it seems like every single game is a close one. It's like, when you think they're going to blow the other team away…the opposition comes back! It's maddening. Well, I'm thankful they're at least above .500 (And Ryan Dempster is pitching like…someone whose name isn't Ryan Dempster). I'd be feeling pretty negative if I was a Tigers fan right about now. Even if the Tigers will end the year as an impressive team.

Well, that's enough of that. Onto the…reader feedback!

Reader feedback
There was a lot of response last week, as to be expected…I ranked OoT at number 5. I'm sorry, but if I had ranked it higher I would have been lying to myself. Ocarina of Time is one of the best games ever in one of the best series ever, I just feel that other games in the Zelda franchise are superior.

This one's from Waqas

TP better than OoT? Whahahaha ROFL !

WW and MM are good games...but OoT is no.1. This is a very stupid and ignorant
list. I dont care if its just an opinion. Your opinion is stupid.


Play Ocarina of Time and play TP and tell me they don't play like the same game. You can make an argument that OoT has the better story, but TP is by far the more polished game. Sorry that my opinion is stupid.

Next is one from Sean McCabe with a list of his own.


First, want to say we're pretty much the opposite on replayability. I don't ever
want to play another Mario Kart of a Pokemon game, I've had more than enough for
both, but on the other hand, I've played every AA game besides Apollo Justice
more than once and will continue to probably play them every once in a while
for the rest of my life. They are that damn well written, more great stories
than great games.

Anyway, your list this week is interesting. I disagree with Wind Waker
fervently, whilst I don't dislike it, it's an 8/10 game. I said it. That's what
I'd rate it. It falls far short of being a masterpiece. Anyway, my top 10 is -

10.Oracle of Ages/Seasons
9.Link's Awakening
8.Four Swords Adventure
7.Wind Waker
6.The Minish Cap
5.Legend of Zelda
4.Majoras Mask
3.Twilight Princess
2.Link to the Past
1.Ocarina of Time

I really disliked Phantom Hourglass also. Very uninspired and below par for the
series.


Well…to each his own. I think your list mirrors what most fans probably think, except for the original being at only number five. I like Four Swords Adventures, it's just…I don't know, I'm not sure that I consider it to be all that great of a game. Most people rank Seasons/Ages together, but I find that I enjoyed Ages far more than Seasons. Maybe I am odd?

Also, I know you're right about the AA games and their writing. It's just I have to take elongated breaks before playing them again. I sometimes like the instant gratification that comes with games like Mario Kart.

DarthCsad wanted to weigh in with the following:


I can't say that I agree with this list. For sheer story telling alone I would
rank OOT at #1. But I feel WindWaker is great amongst all the hate based only
on the graphics. I don't like the order, but that's what opinion is all about.

One glaring ommision in my opinion is the Minish Cap for the GBA. This game was
excellent. Easily better than any of the other portable titles. I would rank it
in the top 5 easily.


I'm not sure I agree with you on the Minish Cap. I've played it and for some reason, it just didn't capture the Zelda experience properly. To me at least. I won't deny that it's a good game though. The only Zelda game that I consider bad would be the CDI ones.

Also, totally agreed on Windwaker. Remember all the fanboys: "ZELDA!? MORE LIKE CELDA AMIRITE?" Ugh.

Barz is in next with a rather unusual comment:

stupid list. I appreciate its your opinion, but come on, are you retarded or
something? Ocarina of time & twilight princess are both better games than
wind waker, and put links awakening much higher on that list, thats a fucking
classic there bro. Sheesh, yet another 411 hack.

How can you say you appreciate that it's my opinion and then call me retarded or something? Sheesh, yet another commentator hack.

hellboysetsfire has a short attention span


oh reginald......I DISAGREE! i quit reading after ocarina.


So a Family Guy reference followed by a: "Stopped reading after" burn. I think you could have done better.

Brad = AGE OF ORTON …doesn't like OoT?

THANKYOU... Majora's Mask is quite a good game. OoT... no comment...

Bonus points for the Orton pic


In the age of Orton, Majora's Mask will be a more appreciated game amongst the fans. I'm kinda surprised that you don't like OoT – by all means it's a spectacular game – but I'm just so happy that you like MM that it doesn't bother me a bit.

twf's sdc has a rather embarrassing factoid to share with us.


I am so embarrassed to say this, but I have never beaten a Legend of Zelda game.
I have a complex, finishing longer and/or deeper games I start is rare. The
games that are started but never finished are generally my faves though, and
Legend of Zelda is no exception. I've started about half games on the list and
own 7 of them, but the one that isn't there that I have is a shock to me, and
that is Minish Cap. I feel like it can hang with the best the series has to
offer. Other than that, I can't say too much about this week's list except,
thanks for spoiling the end of Phantom Hourglass for me. :P

As soon as I get the search for sweet sweet Fukudome baseball cards outta my
system, I'm going to finish SSE and then focus on beating at least a dozen
games I couldn't see through till the end before, especially including Phantom
Hourglass, A Link to the Past, and if I'm feeling particularly froggy, Twilight
Princess and Ocarina of Time. This is the year.

I'm glad I saw the Cubs get that first win. I think they lost at least the
first 7 games I watched last season. It might've been as many as ten, but I
know it didn't start well for me last spring.


…If you find an extra Fukudome card, send it this way. Kousuke is like my new man crush. I have to tell ya', this year has been so nerve wracking. The Cubs are always in tight games. I just want a blow out every once in a while! Well…at least they're winning.

I'm surprised you haven't beat a Zelda game yet, but I'm kinda like that at times too. If a games really long, I've been known to stop AT THE VERY END (for some stupid reason) and finish it a year later. It's an annoying ass habit, but I'll recover. Someday. Hopefully you can beat those games over the summer. The only game I make it a mission to beat every summer would be Earthbound. I'm a biased freak though and never get tired of it.

Still waiting for that Jigglypuff explanation and our imminent smash battle! Good thing I spoiled Phantom's ending…maybe it'll encourage you to save it for last. That ending STILL pisses me off.

FDuk200k comments:

I never really saw Links Awakening as a dream ending, mostly because when Link
wakes after the final battle he sees the Wind Fish in the clouds and Maron (sp)
turns into a Seagul (sp) and its the song that wakes him up in the first place.

OOT is my favourite Zelda game, and favourite game of all time because no game
has ever been able to touch the sense of scope and epic that the game has. WW,
TLP, are all great games but they fall short on the epic factor where as
Ocarina just did everything right.

MM is the perfect sequel too it in my view because it continues the story and
is ALOT darker, which is something you dont usually get from a Zelda game.


That's an interesting take on Link's Awakening. I actually haven't thought of it like that before.

I respect that OoT is your favorite game of all time. I think WW was every bit as epic as OoT – especially when you first get the Master Sword – but I can't deny that OoT has its share of "OMG" moments. Probably one of the most memorable scenes is Link stepping out of the temple of time to see Hyrule in ruin.

MM…is a wonderful sequel and I'm glad you agree. I have the sudden urge to go play though it again.

James gets in with…just an excellent comment


What Wind Waker Nr.1?

Its awful in comparison to OOT!

Majoras is a lot better than Wind Waker.

For me there is ONLY one Number 1!

Ocarina of Time-Its Timeless!


I love that you give Majora's Mask a ton of credit. I also love your "Ocarina of Time – It's Timeless!" line. That's some good stuff. And I absolutely agree. It is timeless. A wonderful, wonderful game.

My good friend Vitamin D would like a word.

First off, great idea for an article. A franchise so good that it, itself,
deserved a top ten!

Secondly, the first two I can admit to being fighting for number one.

The thing, at least with me, that I didn't like Windwaker at first was not
because of the "kiddie" graphics but because it was not similar to
the footage shown at I BELIEVE was the GDC awhile back. It showcased Link and
Ganondorf (OoT model) battling and had real good graphics. But I did enjoy
Windwaker a whole lot.

The main reason I would consider LtTP the great of all time is because all the
factors you mentioned. You thought the game was over then bam, the dark world.
Using the mirror to tranfer back was just amazing and blew my mind during that
time (I was about 12-13 or so). The music....I dare you to find me a piece of
music in that game that was NOT good!

Anyways, keep up the good work. Always look forward to your articles. Take care
my friend!


I think that's what a lot of our problems with WW were. I have to admit, I was PUMPED for the next gen Zelda and when I saw Toon Link, at first I was a bit…well…let down. But when I actually played the game I fell in love. You're totally right about Link to the Past. It has one of the best soundtracks ever and is arguably one of the most important games of all time. There was always a story to Zelda, but Link to the Past made it so much deeper. This was before the timeline got raped to hell, so…it was really neat back then.

We also need to brawl soon!

I wrap up with otsi

OOT was the first time I was ever able to get truly lost in a video game like
you can reading a book, and even though it may not be the best ever, it was the
first and most memorable. For some of you, maybe LTTP was the one. For others
MM or WW. Either way, we can all agree that these games are special.


There is no better way to end the comment section than with this one. No matter what I think or what you think, the Zelda franchise is one of the best ever and should be remembered as thus.

On that note, there were a lot of comments this week that I wanted to touch on but I just didn't have the room for. There were a lot of good points made and I found myself agreeing with a lot of people who disagreed with me. So, just excellent.

Whoo

Top-10 things I miss the least about gaming

Well, I'm trying to find a banner for the 10th hour. I'll try this one first, just to see what people think. Anyhow…this week's list is about things in videogames that have gone away that I don't particularly miss. Let's take a step into the past and look at some of the most annoying things that hindered our experiences while growing up.

There are no rules for this list. It just has to be something that I don't deem to be a problem these days.

10-)Lack of Demos - When I was growing up, one of the best treats out there was going to a rental place and renting a game. It was great, because we didn't have a lot of money and couldn't afford to just buy every game that came out. The problem was…we couldn't go out and rent something all the time. It was something that happened every once in a while, and truth is…I rarely rented a game I wanted to buy. I just bought it. What bothered me is that sometimes there would be a game I was super hyped about, like…Mario is Missing. I really wanted that game! I thought there was no way the game would disappoint me, so there was no point in renting it. Boy was I wrong. What's great about today is that almost every big release title has a demo of some sort. Now don't get me wrong, Nintendo STILL doesn't release demos. I could understand that back in the N64 era when making a demo would be far too expensive with cartridges, but…when Nintendo shifted to CDs, I think the excuse for not making demos is a bit lessened. I'm not focusing on the good things people do – On X-Box LIVE and PSN (I believe at least. I don't use much PSN) you have the ability to download demos of even the most hotly anticipated games just to see if it's something you would be interested in buying. It's handy, because I was having doubts about Virtua Fighter 4….so I simply downloaded the demo offered to me on X-Box LIVE and boom! I knew the game would be a great one for me. It was just so frustrating to have no idea what you would be getting into back in the day. I like that now if you buy a crappy game it's probably the fault of the purchaser for not having tried it out before hand. I just hope Nintendo decides to jump on the bandwagon – even if downloadable demos are out of the question – because I would really like to play a game like Mario Kart Wii before it comes out just so I know what I'm getting into. Just remember how inconvenient things were when all you had to go by was what a magazine said…then you'll remember just how nice demos can be.

Just as planned - What? Didn't know you bought a bad game? Just as planned...

9-) Game market disregards or insults girl gamers - Don't get me wrong, this still isn't handled great today. There is still progress being made though, as at least it's just not down right insulting anymore. There will always be games that both genders can enjoy. A matter of fact, I would say a wide majority of games are of those that gender doesn't matter. That said…there were always "girly" games released that were just so insultingly girly that it bordered on offensive. "Boys" games were almost always cool and marketed in a neat way. Either gender could play them because they were just AWESOME. Girl games on the other hand…they were not marketed so that each gender could enjoy the game. They were marketed at a very specific market, which would be fine. If they were any good. I noticed that as time progressed, most of the games out there that were super girly were marketed towards children. I realize that a lot of us were growing up with the NES and these kiddy games weren't really a huge deal, but you have to remember…that's all we had at the time. If you were an older female gamer and the stuff marketed at you was just so…bad…would you have been okay with that? Probably not. Now today, while certain games do objectify women…at least they don't plain up insult them by pretending that the only things they play have tons of pink in them. I'm glad the game industry generally treats them as equals to their male counterparts.

Barbie - Shockingly, not every girl of every age enjoys games about Barbie.

8-) exclucivity everywhere! - Yes, I know there are still exclusives today. If you compare the number of games that appear just on one console and not the others today with the past…you'd be pretty over-whelmed. With the exception of big first party releases, most everything finds its way over to the other consoles. This is great, because not everyone can afford a 400 dollar gaming console. Now there will always be exclusive titles, I mean…how else could a company convince you to buy their system and not the companies? That said, it's good to know that even if you chose the "wrong" console, you won't have a lack of games to play. Companies port their titles to other consoles for the profit, and that's generally a good thing for gamers. Nobody is left out! Another thing you could lump into this is mass version differences. There would be times when a game is released cross platform and the versions would be radically different. I remember Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Tournament Fighters. At the time, I made a choice to purchase it on the Genesis. I didn't have a ton of Genesis games and it was a pretty nice addition to my library. It went along great with Hyperstone Heist. So, one day I try out the SNES version and it's totally different! The fighting mechanics are better, the character selection is better, and in general…the game was better. This baffled me! I even rented the NES version and THAT was different as well. It seemed more story based! I was lucky in that I owned multiple consoles and could play multiple games, but most people probably didn't so they were stuck with their version of the game whether they liked it or not. I would have HATED to have been stuck with the SNES version of Aladdin when the Genesis version was just…superior. I'm so glad I don't have to worry about that anymore .I know if I buy Assassin's Creed on the 360 I'll have practically the same experience I would if I bought it on the PS3. Now…I realize GTA IV looks to change things as far as this goes. Microsoft paid the big bucks for that though, so whatever. The core gameplay and the actual game won't be much different though.

Hrm - Some games will always be on just one console.

7-) On-line Play? What's that? - One of the most satisfactory experiences in gaming is playing with a friend. It's good to play solo every so often, but it just feels nice when you sit down with a comrade and take down the hassles of the virtual world. That said…it's not always easy to round up someone to play with and sometimes a game is only good for their multiplayer aspect. So what would you do back in the day if you really wanted to play a multiplayer game and nobody was available? Nothing. You'd have to just play something else. Well now…if there's a really neat multiplayer game out you can play it whenever you want. For a while, online gaming was restricted to the PC…which is fine. I believe that was the only thing keeping PC gaming in the hunt with console gaming, but…it became necessary for consoles. There were a lot of console-only titles that would be great to play online. The very first time we saw it implemented was last generation, and the only company that did it right was Microsoft. The X-Box LIVE service was fantastic, while Sony's service was average at best and Nintendo's service was…non-existent. Things have gotten better in this generation, which is wonderful, and by the next one…perhaps online play can be perfected? Whatever the case, I'm glad that it's no longer necessary to hunt down your friends to play with you. If I want to play a shooter, all I need to do is plug into the internet and get going. Now…this does NOT mean that you should cut down on local multiplayer options – you should still be able to get friends together to have a blast – but…a balance between the two is just great.

Sudogunk - Online play helped liven up the latest pokemon games.

6-) Shoddy Arcade Ports - There was one game growing up that was just…just the bee's knees. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Arcade game. My gosh, this was the best thing ever. The game was fun, the turtles were cool to play as, and…it was just one of the best beat ‘em ups of all time. I actually considered buying a below average ninja turtles game on the gamecube just so I could experience this on a console. Well that's great and all, but what if you wanted to replicate that experience at home? There were two options: buy an arcade cabinet, or…get the home version of the game. Sadly, the home version of the game never really measured up to the arcade version. The graphics always seemed off and they could never pack the right amount of content in. I understand there were limitations, but you could never take the true experience home with you. That's just frustrating, I don't care who you are. Well, with the advent of better graphics, consoles and computers have begun out-pacing arcades and finally…we can get arcade-quality ports. What's sad about this is that in North America the arcade is just about dead – a damn shame – but for what few games that are out there and in the arcades, you can be rest assured that a reliable port will be released for a console. The playstation era really helped usher this in. Tekken was a great game to play in the arcade and certainly was better looking there…but the home console version just offered so much more. It came to be that the console version was preferred to the arcade version. I couldn't even imagine that back in the day…as I tried desperately to rent a Simpsons title that captured the magic of the arcade version. I hope the arcade scene continues to live on, even if it is a bit bleak. Thankfully for technology any arcade game can be reciprocated perfectly onto our consoles.

Dah - Wanted to play this at home? Too bad!

5-) Stuck? TOO BAD! - Man, do you remember playing a game and then getting stuck? Well of course you do! It happens to everyone at some point in time, and from then you must turn to something else to help. Sadly…at the time, what did you have? Players guides and magazines. Both cost money, and in the latter's case there was no guarantee that the game you were stuck in would be covered in that particular issue. Hunting for codes was much different back then. Scanning the back of magazines was like…a way of life back then. I remember on the school bus one time this kid was looking at codes for Mortal Kombat. I tried peering at him over the seat. I wanted to see those codes, dammit! What does he do? Cover ‘em up! He paid good money for that magazine, and if I wanted those glorious cheats…I would have to find them myself. Luckily…as the internet became more popular, sites like gameFAQS popped up. Even though they have a notoriously bad community, the ability to find help for any game at any time is amazingly helpful. The very first time we had the internet was when I was in fifth grade. Strategy guides, magazines, everything…they meant nothing anymore. I just used the internet and I was able to find out everything I needed. That was so nice. In a way it's kind of sad to see the strategy guide bite the dust, but to be honest…I still find a use for them. If there's a game you really like, I say buy the guide for the art that's inside. It's a neat little extra at the very least. Other than art work, there doesn't seem much of a reason to own a strategy guide anymore…and that's a bit of a blessing. Less time being stuck in a videogame, less money spent…more fun had. How wonderful! The internet has been beneficial to gaming in just about every way.

NP - Remember when Nintendo Power had a purpose?

4-) Blowing on the cartridge - Alright. One of the worst things ever was renting a game and taking it home, only to see that it worked like shit. What was the solution to this? Blowing the cartridge and rubbing it! You'd put the game back into the console and you would find out…IT STILL DOESN'T WORK! Time after time you'd need to blow on your cartridge until magically…it works! By then you've expounded so much energy, it's like you don't even care. The sad thing is, the older my NES got…the more I had to blow on my own games. This was sad, because sometimes I'd really want to go back and play Tecmo Super Bowl only to be met with a flashing red screen. As cartridges got better, the problem wasn't as apparent, though it still existed. Do ya' want proof? I was feeling particularly nostalgic one day and felt like playing Star Fox 64. After getting everything hooked up I try out the game and…IT DOESN'T WORK. Argh! After minutes and minutes of blowing that would make Kim Kardashian proud I finally got the damn thing to work. Now don't get me wrong, CDs can fuck up too if they're dirty…but it seems that as long as you take good care of your games that won't be a problem. My copy of Final Fantasy VII runs smooth as can be and I've had that longer than I've had Star Fox 64. It seems that as they age, the more unreliable cartridges get. They were just such a pain in the ass, I'm happy to see them gone. I take pretty good care of my games, and now…with the exception of some poorly produced games – like Smackdown versus Raw 2008 which has been freezing on me since the very first day I bought it. What the fuck? – I can play any game I want to. Cartridges are great for nostalgia sake, as far as the home console is concerned…good riddance. Long live the CD/DVD format!

NES

3-) All movie games are bad - There were exceptions to this rule. Most Disney games back then were really, really good. The Genesis version of Aladdin is still one of my favorite games of all time, and there were several good Genesis games starring Mickey Mouse, in particularly Mickey Mania…but outside of those games, movie based games were almost always horrible. Don't get me wrong, a vast majority of movie based games are pure shit. Still though, a "vast majority" is better than every single non-Disney one. Think about it – when the lord of the rings movies were running in theatres, that franchise released some damn fine games. The Star Wars universe has led to amazing titles (including the SNES games, I should say). Spider man 2 was actually a REALLY good game. The deal was…back then if there was a movie coming out that was geared toward children (or even…some that weren't geared towards children like Friday the Thirteenth or Halloween) you knew that a game was going to come out for it that was total shit. Well now…you know that there is a slight chance the game could be good. That's at least better than a straight shot at being garbage. While none of my favorite games are based on movies, at least I can play those games without feeling bad about it. Without feeling like I wasted a ton of money. I like that. If only videogame movies would improve in the same way. We always have the Metal Gear Solid movie, right? …Wait, doesn't the game already act as a movie? Hm.

Al - Hey SNES owners, something wrong with this picture? OH YEAH, YOU DIDN'T GET TO USE A SWORD. AHAHAHAHAH.

2-) Big Power Sources - When I say this, I'm not complaining about the big power supplies that come with the 360 or PS3. Those are okay. Why are they alright you ask? It's simple. They come with a NORMAL sized plug. You just put it into the wall and you're good to go. The power supply is big, but it doesn't really get in the way of anything. The plug-ins aren't extra big and take up space on your wall. What really pissed me off about old systems was how big their plug-ins were. Instead of having normal sized plug-ins that don't really interfere with anything…they have these BIG clunky plug-ins that prevent other things from being plugged in. You want to know how much of a pain that is? Say you're trying to hook up your TV and the power source into the same socket. Most sockets, as you know, contain two different power outlets. So you'd put your TV plug in and then…wait…what? THE POWER SOURCE IS TOO FUCKING BIG. So you'd either have to unplug your TV and try to fit both of them on there or…get an extension cable. It's not terrible, since most people actually have extension cables, but it is kind of inconvenient. This rings especially true when you're rocking multiple systems. Before I bought my PS1, here's what systems I had readily available to me: NES, SNES, Genesis, N64. What is the common tying factor between these systems? THEY ALL HAVE THAT STUPID POWER SOURCE. So I'd have to arrange my plug-ins extra carefully to make sure everything could fit, and most of the time…they couldn't. So something would always have to remain unplugged. This can be extra annoying when you set up a system to play, turn it on and…nothing happens. Panic sets in, could something be wrong with the system? Why isn't it turning on? Oh crap, there goes my child hood! No more NES for me! …Then you find out it's un-plugged, your palm meets your face, and it's time to game. I am so glad that every console of the last two generations got rid of that garbage. Things are so much more convenient now. Every system in my room goes easily into my six-slotted surge protector. What a God send. I can switch between Persona 3 and Super Smash Brothers Brawl at my leisure without panicking about whether my console is okay. It's convenient and I like it better. Whoever invented big power sources needs to be shot.

SNES - There's only one thing wrong with this picture.

1-) Passwords - Oh lord. Passwords. The save system was, without a doubt, the single best innovation in video game history. I thank my lucky stars every time a game asks me to save because I remember a time that it wasn't so easy. Don't get me wrong, not every password system was terrible. SOME did it right. Like the original Ninja Turtles (this is the third time I brought up the turtles in this column) for the gameboy. All it had was numbers. There was no chance for confusion. When you wrote down your password you know exactly what you were writing down. That was acceptable. It was when companies starting throwing in letters that things started to get annoying. Zeroes looked like the letter O, Upper-case and lower-case c's, k's, z's, w's, j's, p's, etc were hard to discern from each other, and don't even get me started on lower-case L's. IS IT a 1? Is it an l? Is it an upper-case i!? The only good thing the letter L has ever done…was be the name of the best character in Death Note. Other than that, I recommend it gets expelled from the alphabet for this bullshit. As if confusing letters weren't hard enough, you also had REALLY LONG passwords. So if you messed up, which I often did because not only do I have horrible penmanship but sometimes it was really hard to see what the combinations were, you had to start over and it was hard to see where you made the mistake. It was often case after case of trial and error. I understand that saving systems didn't come around yet, but would it really have been that hard to make a simplistic password system? That would have been nice. I haven't even TOUCHED on the worst offended yet. Megaman. Ugh…it had that stupid "PLACE THE DOTS HERE" password system. That was so annoying because if you even placed one dot in the wrong place you were fucked. I had lost so much progress thanks to that. If I remember correctly they were grid like with the wholeA-1, B-1, etc deal, but when I was young I didn't notice that. I would draw the WHOLE box and copy the dots there. I would then input the code later and be…screwed. Gah. If that's not bad enough, Mega man 7 for the SNES STILL used a password system, as did megaman soccer. I think that system was a bit advanced for that garbage. Thank God for the save system. No longer do I have to worry about writing something wrong. I can simply pick up and play where I last left off.

HURGH

Well, that's it for the 10th hour this week. I'm not sure what's on tap for next week (I never am), but I'll be back with a vengeance, I'm sure.

As always, if you want to send me feedback send an e-mail to Dragonmaster_Alex_158@hotmail.com I welcome all positive or negative statements. Or you can simply use the commenting system below.

Before I go, let's look at some of the great stuff going around on the 411 games section.

Mark Salmela writes B3yond the report (I called it by the right name this week!) last week he said the following Well we do both get the most comments every week for 411 games so I guess we
probably couldn't handle it. And you knew the second you put Zelda OoT at
number 5 you were gonna get 1329214832 comments, bastard....
. Ya' got me! Check out his column, would ya? He puts a lot of work into it. Here it is

Tommy Coloma does the negative edge news report which is a pretty great read. I don't care what you say about SNK milking stuff though, I'm really excited about Fatal Fury Battle Archives number two. BUSTA' WOLF. here ya' go!

Chris Scott is a new columnist at 411. He writes the Red Snifit (What a good name!) Man, do I remember when I was a newbie, writing football columns…dah. Anyways, he's doing a much better job in his rookie effort than I did. He touches on Bad News Baseball. I mean, FUCK YEAH BAD NEWS BASEBALL. show him your support here! Good job Chris, keep it up!

John Curry started a new column, the checkpoint. It's actually a really well thought out discussion about cut-scenes. I just hope he doesn't mind if I refer to him as Curry Man

James McGee does The Game Plan. This week he mentioned Dante as one of the best anti-heroes ever. This is last week's column. He'll have one coming up at the same time this column goes up. I am linking to this one though because I think it deserves some recognition. Hey James! Sean had a point! Gene from God Hand needs to be in. Lookie here

Rod Oracheski writes Achievement Unlocked. He interviewed some people this week, namely Chris Rubyor from Universe at War, and David Speyrer and Kerry Davis from the Orange Box. It's a good read all around. 2000 point achievement right here. Holy shit. This also updates the same day that I do, so make sure to check it out tonight!

Chris Evans pens the PC-centric extravaganza. This week he talks about Dawn of War 2 and racing games. If you like PC games you'd be remiss if you didn't check this out. PC gaming ahoy!

Vincent Chiucchi is behind the select and start news report AND the hall of shame. Last week I highlighted the hall, but this week I'm all over the news report. He fired the first bullet of war against Mark Salmela. IT'S ON NOW. Start+Select+L1+L2+R1+R2

AJ and Mike Minoti do the exploding barrel podcast. Mike commented on me this week saying: Wind Waker at #1 = insta-win.. He's right. It does. They do a really good job with the podcast and you should listen. I really liked at the end of the podcast when they waxed nostalgically on Sonic the Hedgehog. I love that guy. They also discuss Disney games this week. I TOLD YOU THEY USED TO BE GOOD. Check it out here!

Well, that's enough for this week. I think I'll continue along the negativity train next week.

Til' the crossroads

Ladies Night


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Blowing on the cartridge... HAHA thats truly genius. The old N64... No Mercy has been blown more times than *Paris Hilton reference*. Good times...

Killer banner by the way, id love to see Orton RKO Dr Mario... and Luigi fireball Batista.

Yeah its not that i dont like OoT, i just think its not as good as everyone says it is. Its a good game - Yes, is it one of the best - Hell no. Top 50, not Top 10 like people always try to say.


Posted By: Brad (Guest)  on April 11, 2008 at 01:34 AM

 
 
Know what else pisses me off? Long load times, erased data, games that go out, n64 controllers, broken reset switches, sega, cartridges that look like shit, ps1's, and people calling all consoles a nintendo or a sega or a playstation.

Posted By: Barbecued Ribs (Guest)  on April 11, 2008 at 03:46 AM

 
 
only good thing about Nintendo's old systems all of them have can be hooked up with a/v cables. (ps the n64 didnt have a big plug-in)

Posted By: lee (Guest)  on April 11, 2008 at 03:49 AM

 
 
Oh lawl, I remember blowin' on the snes cartridges when I rented them. They just wouldn't play after 10 times Dx So I like took it back. Damn cartidge!

And the plugs, lol. Man, they were huge, huh?

Great list, G


Posted By: connor (Guest)  on April 11, 2008 at 04:34 AM

 
 
Orton references = win.

Death Note references = you need to watch less overrated anime :P

But anyway, great list this week. Pretty much perfect, I can't think of anything else to add.


Posted By: Sean McCabe (Guest)  on April 11, 2008 at 05:43 AM

 
 
Yeah, arcade ports weren't so much with the good back in the day. At least my friend had a Game Genie so we could get infinite lives the port of Ninja Turtles. I never had enough quarters/tokens to get more than (I assume) halfway through.

It's amazing how unfathomably stupid the marketing towards gamer girls can be. It definitely still isn't handled great today, but at least there is an awareness nowadays. Probably the most knowledgeable gamer I know is female. Definitely a student of the, uh, games. She's quite possibly the most talented gamer I know too.

As I recall, the SNES Aladdin was still pretty good.

Strategy guides still have their uses, to have something official and not have to stop and seek something out online.
I picked up the special edition for Final Fantasy XII specifically for the art book though. Hey, there's a game I need to get around to playing.

Blowing in the cartridge has a certain charm to it, but it definitely gets to be a pain in the ass after awhile. A much shorter while than it used to be.

I found the Fukudome card of my dreams... and broke the bank for it. It's going right next to the Billy Williams bat/autograph card and Ryne Sandberg Gold Refractor (and a Soto autograph... when I have some money again) as my favorite cards. Do you collect?
There are some Japanese cards of Fukudome floating around ebay.

As for the Cubbies being in close games all the time, it will pay off in experience in the postseason, when being able to win close games is extremely important. The Cubs got behind... last night, but ended up winning pretty handily.
I am loving Jon Lieber right now. How great is it to have a long reliever that's a former 20 game winner as a starter that still has his number 3 or 4 starter stuff?

Also, I'm really starting to wonder if adding Brian Roberts is necessary. Reed Johnson slowly giving way to Pie over the course of the season could work quite well. I really like the idea of them both having 300+ at bats each. Theriot is fairly light-hitting, but gets many hits right when they're needed, and steals some bases. Fontenot is just awesome, like a better hitting Craig Counsell.

I'm still loving the original art when it appears. I should send you a scan, or more likely a webcam snapshot, since my scanner is berried, of the pic of Ness I drew in my magic sketchbook with that forthcoming e-mail, which will hopefully find your inbox soon.
... Why is Orton RKO-ing Gardevoir?


Posted By: twf's sdc (Guest)  on April 11, 2008 at 06:13 AM

 
 
You forgot one thing. Platformers from the NES and SNES era not saving how many extra lives you have. You could stockpile for the next boss or really hard level, but if you had to turn the power off, you'd go back to having 3-5 lives.

There was an excuse before the era of the save system, but there's no reason why the Donkey Kong Country series in the MID-NINETIES needed to pull this crap.

Then the biggest insult was late last year when Mario Galaxy decided that this was a good retro trend to bring back. Not that anyone cared because the game was easy as hell, but I didn't need to be reminded of that.


Posted By: Kirk M. (Guest)  on April 11, 2008 at 07:41 AM

 
 
Oh man, Megaman 7 passwords...Those were a thing of the devil. A 6x6 graph filled with little numbers for you to write down, and then the only way to continue was plug them back in later.

Posted By: Drew (Guest)  on April 11, 2008 at 08:00 AM

 
 
OMFG Passwords were like a living hell.

Blowing in the cartridge? Bah, never bothered me.


Posted By: Ty Huston (Registered)  on April 11, 2008 at 09:13 AM

 
 
You know I'd rank this up as a add-on to the blowing on cartridges part... But specifically for the NES... Did you ever get to the point where the loading spring was screwed up and you had to hold it down by jamming another cartridge in the hole? And then just to find out, the damn thing doesn't work on top of that so you had to take that shit out, blow in it a dozen or so more times, and try all over?

And I am quite happy the password system has disappeared, I would always forget to write down the passwords and end up going "Ah crap!" then followed up by a forceful palm to the forehead. Hours of gaming lost, and me cursing myself was had.

But what I would have to add onto a list would be the thing that annoyed me to no end had to have been the fact as a kid having to explain in detail to ignorant parents why you need a SNES when you have a "perfectly good NES right there". and not having any other way to get what you want unless you are a good childhood conman/conwoman....


Posted By: Travis (Guest)  on April 11, 2008 at 12:01 PM

 
 
Blowing cartridges doesn't bother me too much. It's better than getting a disk scratched.

Passwords though? The horror, the horror.....


Posted By: dAVE!!! (Registered)  on April 11, 2008 at 01:03 PM

 
 
To go along with the strategy guides/magazines, I remember calling the Nintendo Hotline for help on a few games. Occaisionally, you could also get videos/books that were also full of cheats/codes/tricks. Not to mention my favorite game accessory of all time, The Game Genie.

Yea, those power sources were a pain. So clunky/heavy themselves they sometimes even fell out of the socket.


Posted By: JLAJRC (Guest)  on April 11, 2008 at 03:18 PM

 
 
So a Family Guy reference followed by a: "Stopped reading after" burn. I think you could have done better.

yeah, i was a bit off that day. anyway, i really enjoyed this column. you nailed my hatred for the aladdin game in the comment next to your pic. i remember my parents bought my brother and i that game for christmas one year and i was so pissed that i wasn't able to use the sword. i distinctly remember using a level skip code and getting to the magic carpet level and then shutting it off never to be played again. but not ALL disney games sucked, i rather enjoyed the lion king (especially the stampede level that kicked my ass so many times) and toy story for SNES. (which IMO was graphically ahead of its time)


Posted By: hellboysetsfire (Guest)  on April 11, 2008 at 04:16 PM

 
 
Oh yeah, I got the N64 out the other day wanting to play Perfect Dark with my cousins...it took about 8 blows on the cartridge and 4 on the actual console.

The other thing that pissed me off about the N64 was that if you pulled the controller out accidentally, the majority of games would freeze, or wouldn't let you plug them back in and continue.

I remember playing Pokemon stadium back in the day, getting to the final battle of one particular stage and then pulling the controller out in excitement...


Posted By: Patrick Robinson (Registered)  on April 11, 2008 at 05:34 PM

 
 
Blowing on cartridges and systems is a pretty bad idea. It just blows the dust and dirt further into the system/cartridge. It may work in the short term, but it screws things up in the long term.

It's interesting that you mention the Ninja Turtles. The NES port of the first arcade game wasn't very accurate, but the SNES port of the second arcade game was better than the original. The SNES port of "Turtles in Time" added several levels and improved on the gameplay.


Posted By: JT (Guest)  on April 11, 2008 at 11:15 PM

 
 
Ha, you hit the nail on the head on that damned power source. I recently hooked up my SNES and Genesis to a TV in front of an excersize bike... and I had to get another power strip because they both couldn't fit. FRUSTRATION!

Oh, and don't blow cartridges. A q-tip and rubbing alcohol works wonders... except you have to grab that, and you always have breath... unless you smoke too much or are underwater, at which point you've got bigger problems...


Posted By: G-Walla (Guest)  on April 11, 2008 at 11:54 PM

 
 
Oh, yeah, and I totally remember calling some hotline to get the Blood Code to original Mortal Kombat, and then giving the code out to all my friends in school. I certainly was a god that day.

Posted By: G-Walla (Guest)  on April 12, 2008 at 12:00 AM

 
 
If you could get those codes, you would be quite the popular kid that day. I got the Kremlin coin code in Donkey Kong Country 2 and I swear, I was never more popular.

Also, as for why Randy is RKOing Gardevoir? I fucking hate Gardevoir.


Posted By: 411Derek (Guest)  on April 12, 2008 at 02:16 AM

 
 
Woo Deathnote!!!!!!! Woo WWE!!!!!!!
Woo Video Games!!!!!!

Derek Robbins, sir you are Awesome!!!!


Posted By: Matt P (Guest)  on April 12, 2008 at 04:14 AM

 
 
Haha! Fun read, thanks man.

Posted By: Beeker (Guest)  on April 12, 2008 at 04:25 AM

 
 
Oh yes. I love buying brand new games that freeze on you right away. For instance, my brand new copy of ESPN College Basketball 2K8. I knew I should have stuck with EA!

Posted By: Dustin James (Registered)  on April 12, 2008 at 07:35 PM

 
 
Although it still persists on occasion today, the one thing I really don't miss about games are the amount of times they froze on me on the NES. There was nothing like cruising along in Super Mario Bros. 3, preparing to fly over a bunch of enemies, and all of a sudden everything just stops. This happened with numerous games I owned for the NES, but I took very good care of my system and games. Along with Guerilla Wars and RBI Baseball, TMNT was another big culprit of freezing for me, to the point where I actually expected the game to freeze each time I dropped into a sewer to face a bunch of enemies.

Speaking of TMNT, your entry on the lack of resources for game guides makes me recall how I was always stuck in the 4th level in TMNT, not knowing where to drive the van to progress in the game.

I didn't mind the password system much other than for the letters that looked alike. Those passwords were often a gateway for me to start a game late into it, like Mike Tyson's Punch-Out (where Tyson would always whoop me ass), and Star Trek: TNG (to play a couple levels before the Borg came and rained on my parade). This list was another good read, one of my favorite columns in all of 411mania.


Posted By: RavenTazECW (Registered)  on April 14, 2008 at 01:31 AM

 
 
How can you mention Disney games and not talk about Mickey mousecapade for the NES, and The Lion King game for Genesis? Two awesome Disney Games, if I do say so myself.

Posted By: Toddo (Guest)  on April 15, 2008 at 01:59 PM

 
 
Let me go and say great article sir. Great article!

I don't care what the IWC or anyone else, Orton is pretty cool and he's growing on me. The only thing I don't like about him is that he seems he can't do any wrong. "Oh you trashed a hotel room? Here's the belt!"

Another thing you could say about what you don't miss is the high prices. Grant it, 360/PS3 games are $60 now....but do we even want to get into the territory of Final Fantasy II/III or Chrono Trigger? I remember a friend of my brother bought Chrono Trigger for $90 at "Electronics Boutique" (before being shortened and bought out).

F passwords man. F 'em!

Last note, I remember talking to someone from Nintendo and they said for NES games, one thing to do was enter the game inside the console then shake the game itself (not the console) while it's placed inside. Another person said to use Emery Boards to get rid of the dirt inside, that was like F'in magic!

Anyways, take care my friend!


Posted By: Vitamin D (Registered)  on April 16, 2008 at 04:58 AM

 
 
Just wanted to say that I agree with your Zelda list; I'd put WW 1st and LttP 2nd as well.

Posted By: Nick (Guest)  on April 16, 2008 at 10:13 AM

 
 
Good stuff here. I remember nearly passing out from blowing on cartridges so much.

Personally, I always felt the Genesis version of Alladin was very overrated and conversely that the SNES one was underrated. Using a sword doesn't really add anything to the game. It's a Disney movie, for god's sake, it's not like your going to cut your enemies in half anyway.


Posted By: Hawkeye (Guest)  on April 16, 2008 at 05:24 PM

 


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