Gears of War 2 Limited Edition (Xbox 360) Review
Posted by Joe Roche on 11.17.2008
Exactly two years to the day that Epic Games released the original Gears of War, Marcus Fenix and Delta Squad return to the Xbox 360 to continue the fight against the Locust for the fate of humanity. This time around the Locust are sinking cities and the situation looks dire. Does Epic deliver with a game that is "bigger, better and more badass?" or does Gears of War 2 struggle to be more then simply Gears 1.5?
Title: Gears of War 2 Limited Edition Publisher: Microsoft Games Studio Developer: Epic Games Genre: Third Person Shooter, Action Players: 1-2 (online multiplayer 2-10) Rated: M for Mature
The original Gears of War was great. It wasn’t perfect, and most people can probably rattle off a list of the games problems (poor A.I., bland dialogue, no story depth, questionable multiplayer) but even with all of those (valid) complaints it still remains one of the best titles in the Xbox 360 library. With that legacy in tow the crew at Epic Games had some big shoes to fill when exactly two years from the day the original launched they unleashed what they were calling the “bigger, better, more badass” Gears of War 2.
Gameplay & Story:
One thing that Epic tried hard to improve upon with Gears of War 2 was the games scale. In the first game even though you were told that this was a war for the fate of humanity you never really felt a part of the larger battle. This time around the scale, or size of the battle being fought seems very apparent and it adds an incredible amount of depth and feeling to the game as you move along. By now most people know that cities are sinking and as a last resort humanity sends the Gears (including Delta Company) into the Earth to bring the fight straight to the Locust. Not only do you feel like a tiny part of a larger operation, but there will be points throughout the stages where you run into other units fighting the Locust. I thought this was a brilliant addition to the game that seems insignificant on the surface but really adds a layer of depth that was missing from the first Gears game.
If you’ve played the original Gears then you are already prepared to jump right into Gears 2 and start fighting the Locust. If you’re new to the series, or it’s been awhile since you’ve spent time with Marcus Fenix and Delta Squad the game offers you a nice tutorial level to learn the basics in a training sequence with a new recruit. I appreciated the addition of the “training the rook” level (especially that you can skip it on a second play through) and would suggest that everyone take a minute to run through the basics of cover, aiming, and running if for no other reason then to pick up the achievement score and some pieces of information that you can add to our War Journal.
While I’m on the subject let me address the War Journal. In the first Gears game you could search the levels for COG tags which while nice to find never really added much to the game. This time around you’re able to pick up pieces of newspaper, journal entries and other debris which provide some tidbits of information. None of the information that you’ll find it integral to the main plot of the game but it does add further depth to the story, a nice addition by Epic to make this game just feel bigger and more detailed then the first installment.
So the core gameplay remains relatively unchanged in Gears 2, but the minor additions do not stop at the War Journal. One of the most highly talked about additions to the gameplay has been the ability to grab a downed but not dead opponent and use them as a meat shield. This seemingly minor addition is useful for two reasons, the first being that there are simply more enemies in Gears 2. There was one stage in particular where I began to feel overwhelmed with how many waves of enemies were around so it was nice to be able to grab a Locust trying to drag his bloody carcass to safety and protect myself from the onslaught of fire with him. The other reason that this is a nice addition is because it’s just plain fun to grab a meat shield and run into a firefight guns blazing while his body absorbs the bullets. After a few moments Marcus can snap the Locust’s neck and move on. Along with the meat shield Epic also added some new weapons, and new capabilities (including grenades now being set as traps in doorways) all of which come in handy at one point or another. Probably my favorite achievement to get was the “Variety Is the Spice of Death” achievement for killing at least one enemy with each weapon (try the flamethrower on the wretches, seriously.)
Along with weapons and meat shields the other major addition to Gears of War 2 is chapters that involve moving/vehicles. There are a few different ways that Epic introduces vehicles, there are times when you’ll be a passenger in a large transport vehicle fighting Locust on all sides and this level works pretty well even if it’s a big frantic. There is also a level where you’re going to be driving and fighting Locust on the ground. In my opinion this is the weakest of all the vehicle related chapters and the majority of my deaths came during this level, not from enemy fire but from driving off the side of a cliff. There is also a point where you’ll be riding a Reaver, an option that seems awesome as you start and quickly turns into a frenzy that becomes almost too difficult to wrap your head around. I don’t necessarily think this was a bad addition, as a matter of fact as a means of moving the story along it works perfectly and does actually make Marcus seem like a super badass, but as far as the handling and actual “fun-ness” of the level, I can’t say that it rates all that highly. Oh, and there is also a point where you will ride a Brumack…and yes it’s about as bad ass as you’d think.
Along with additional weapons the boys at Epic also added some new baddies to the mix. In their quest to make this game “bigger, better, and more badass” it is clear that Epic wanted some larger then life boss battles, which they deliver – in scale. For the most part you will come across some really big enemies, but when you fight them you’ll be let down. I can promise you that the most difficult boss battle won’t be the last one, and the most entertaining boss battle happens around the midway point. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing; it is just worth mentioning that while the enemies are bigger in scale, there were times when reaching the final battle was much more difficult then the actual battle. I will say that the Skorge is cool as hell even though he/she/it leads to a pretty depressing scene and the Locust Queen borders on sexy which does make me feel uncomfortable in all sorts of ways. But in a game that does so much right and improves on so many things from the original there is never a boss like RAAM in Gears 2.
All of the additions, and minor tweaks in Gears 2 would only work if the story was improved from the original. While I will always have a soft spot in my heart for the first Gears of War, it was admittedly light on story and dialogue. That has been addressed in Gears of War 2 through cut scenes and communications between Marcus and Anya/Hoffman, the later of which will be nice the first time around but every time you play after that seeing Marcus reach for his ear will drive you crazy. If I had one complaint about the emphasis on dialogue it would be that I don’t like how Marcus can’t even reload his Lancer while Anya is talking to him.
The emphasis on additional story and character development adds a lot of depth to Gears of War 2 that wasn’t there in the original. Not only does it allow you to grow more attached to the members of Delta Square, but it adds length to the game (something I’ll address momentarily). There are a few different story arcs in Gears of War 2. The “main” story revolves around the Locust resurgence after the lightmass bomb was detonated at the end of Gears 1, and their newfound ability to sink entire cities. However, you will also spent a great deal of time helping Dom search for his missing wife Maria, a story that has been building to a head for some time (especially if you read Aspho Fields) and pays off to a great degree near the end of Gears 2 in a satisfying and surprisingly heart wrenching moment. If you had gone back in time and told me while I played through Gears 1 that I would be speechless because of the story in Gears of War 2 I would have laughed at you, but that’s exactly what happened when the Dom/Maria storyline came to a head.
Now, here is the problem. From the moment you fire up Gears of War 2 you will have it in your head that there is a certain arc to this story. The entire game leads you in a particular direction, and spends a significant amount of time building you up for the story to be paid off. However, when you finally get to the point where the game feels as though it should end you get an admittedly interesting scene, pretty bad ass boss battle, and then more questions. What you do not get, is the end of the game. Instead the game continues in what feels like a tacked on manner. That is not to say that the final Act of Gears of War 2 is bad, because it’s not, as a matter of fact some of the most fun fights that I engaged in happened during the final Act. However, for storyline purposes it almost feels like Epic got to the point where the game should have ended, realized the game was a bit on the short side and then tacked on a final Act. It’s a fine Act, and it does pay off with a pretty spectacular end scenario, but it feels a bit out of place. Here is the thing about the end of Gears 2 which I will not give away (although you’ve probably already seen or heard it) but while the ending left me feeling a bit down, that was immediately changed when I heard a familiar voice at the end of the credits. If you only get one thing out of this review please let it be that you will want to watch the entire end credits roll bye, it is well worth it and will leave you wanting Gears of War 3 immediately.
On top of the changes made for the single player mode of Gears 2 there has also been quite an overhaul done to the multiplayer. Co-op makes its return, however you can now jump in and out of co-op gameplay, and if you’re an achievement whore now just playing cooperatively is enough to secure those achievements (where as in Gears 2 you had to play as Dom specifically). The multiplayer has seen some improvements as well including some new game modes; “Guardian” (an improved version of “Assassination” which allows you to continue fighting even after your leader has been killed just without the ability to respawn), “Wingman” (all 10 players are broken down into 5 teams of 2), and “Submission” (used to be called “Meat Flag” where the objective is to capture an AI gun wielding bot and drag him into a designated area). Epic took some significant steps to improve the online match making, although the result is that you’re going to wait a significant amount of time for a match to start as the computer tries to match you up with similarly skilled opponents.
The shining beacon of the Gears 2 multiplayer though comes in the form of the cooperative survival “Horde” mode. You jump into a map with four friends and must survive wave after wave of ever more powerful Locust. It might sound simple but there is a great deal of cooperation that is needed to survive, and you will not reach the 50th wave without having some sound strategy and some good partners (at least I assume this is true as I have yet to reach the 50th wave). Horde is a great deal of fun, and with the improved ability to ensure that you’re playing with friends this is where the most time will be spent with Gears 2 long after you’ve completed the campaign.
Graphics:
I don’t think it will come as a surprise to hear that Gears of War 2 is beautiful. The team at Epic knows how to exploit the full potential of the Unreal Engine and it shows throughout this game. The sheer volume of enemies on the screen at one time is staggering, and there are points where you will be overwhelmed by an unrelenting wave of Locust attacking your position. Also while a significant portion of this game takes place underground the setting does not feel dreary and bland like the first one had a tendency to do. As a matter of fact the amount of detail that Epic was able to put into the underground Locust Palace was really impressive, and you will probably be surprised at how beautiful a subterranean scene is able to look. Unlike the first game though there is also a good deal of this game that takes place above ground, and out doors. This allows the Epic team to work with things like lighting, and weather which they do, successfully I might add.
Sound:
I’ve heard people say that the effect used for the Lancer is much improved from the first game. It might just be that I haven’t played the original Gears in some time but if there is a difference I didn’t notice it to be substantial. This game sounds pretty good though. The echoes when you’re underground manage to give you a pretty good sense of the creeps, and the sound of an emergence hole opening somewhere ahead of you still manages to make my skin crawl. I also think that everyone involved in the voice work department did their jobs to perfection, especially Lester Speight who brings Cole from loveable character to show stealer. All of the characters are brought to life pretty well but there is a scene during the assault on the Locust Queen’s Palace where Cole gets on a PA like system that is so goddamn hilarious you will find yourself going back just to see it again.
Fun Factor:
Is through the roof a proper ratings term?
Even with my complaint about the final Act feeling tacked on, the main campaign of Gears 2 will bring you through a rollercoaster of emotions and leave you wanting more. Throughout the game you get to fight in massive battles, use bad guys as meat shields, curb stomp heads and smash faces in with your fists – oh and did I mention the chapter where you get to control the Brumack? As soon as you finish the game you’ll start thinking about going back and playing again, which you can do alone (still satisfying) or with a friend (even more so). Plus the game is loaded with online multiplayer potential including the addictive Horde mode which I imagine will keep this game in heavy rotation well into next year.
Lasting Appeal:
As I’ve said many times Horde gives this game a very long shelf life. If you’re a fan of playing cooperatively with other people then it is the perfect option for you, and even if you’re just an achievement whore there is one for finishing all 50 waves (a feat that is much more difficult then I thought). I also imagine that with the potential for DLC Horde mode could see an expanded wave cap which would give even more longevity to the title.
There is also of course the regular multiplayer which is to be expected, and expanded upon as we move on down the road with new maps and maybe some new game types. All of that will give you more bang for your buck if you’re the type of person who loves online multiplayer. I’m not convinced that the online component of this game will have the same type of impact that Halo 3 has had/continues to have but it’s still fun and if Epic can figure out a way to fix the process of actually starting a game that would be even better. Oh, lest I forget if you’re the type of person who doesn’t want to be yelled at by a fourteen year old over Xbox Live you can play the multiplayer modes with bots. It’s not exactly the same but it’s still pretty fun and can help you learn how to play the multiplayer before you actually jump into live combat.
Finally there is the co-op play which was a big selling point in the first Gears and returns just as well in the second installment. One improvement in the co-op now is that each player can use a different difficulty level. This should allow people who want to play with their brother/sister/significant other but knows that they’re just not as good at shooters to still be able to enjoy the game. You can play on INSANE while your wife plays on CASUAL and you’ll both be able to participate without sacrificing for the other.
All in all this game is well worth the money that you’ll spend on it because you’ll spend plenty of time with Delta Squad.
The 411:
Gears of War 2 came as close as any game that I’ve ever played to being given a perfect 100 score in this review. The original remains one of my favorite games and the second installment improved on all of the complaints that I had with the first one. The game is incredibly fun, beautiful to look at, engaging, compelling, and left me speechless at parts – it comes pretty close to being perfect.
However, I have a problem with sites that rate games perfectly even though they have complaints about the game. If the original Gears of War was a five out of five (or 100 rating), yet Gears of War 2 improved upon that then how can you rate Gears 2? I did feel like the final Act was a bit tacked on for the sake of extending the game, the boss battles were big in scope but not always on challenge and I do feel as though there should be something done about the matchmaking process for the multiplayer so I can’t claim that this game is perfect although it comes as close as any game that I’ve ever played. I don’t want to be doing a review of Gears of War 3 on November 7, 2010 and talk about how it has improved on what was provided in Gears 2 and then give the two games the same score.
However, if you can only buy one game this winter then I suggest it should be Gears of War 2. I have been spending a lot of time with some of the other big holiday releases and while they all bring something to the table, none of them have given me the entertainment and enjoyment of Gears 2. This game is the perfect second installment of a series providing answers to some lingering questions and creating even more compelling storylines that fans of the series will be craving answers to in the future. Sure it might not mean as much coming from the guy who has reviewed such luminaries as “Deadliest Catch” and “Gin Rummy” but I can say without a shadow of a doubt that Gears of War 2 is by far the best game I have ever reviewed for this site, and may very well be the best game of 2008.
For hardcore Gears fans, Epic and Microsoft have also pumped out the
Limited Edition set. The set comes in a snazzy steelbook DVD case
with an engraved image of the chainsaw gun. A keepsake photo of
Dominic and Maria is also include which threw me off for a moment,
thinking it was a pic of my girlfriend and me (I had some photos out).
It was pretty cool to have that in there though, hell maybe I'll put it on my fridge.
As expected, there's a bonus DVD inside as well that includes some
making-of-the-game footage as well as some design galleries with commentary
and promotion videos from E3 2008.
The coolest inclusion is the 48-page hardbound book which gives you some
background on the game's characters, some sick concept art and a foreword
from Cliff Blezinki himself. To top it all off, the limited edition set also includes
an exclusive Xbox Live code to unlock a sweet gold-plated Lancer Assault Rifle
which can be used to play online. It's fun to make others drool during multiplayer
when they stare at your gun (no, not that gun!).
All in all it's a sweet deal for $69.99 and also makes a great holiday gift for that
Gears of War nut in your family!
Each setting is beautifully done, and there is a particular blood covered Marcus scene that is eerily satisfying.
Gameplay
9.5
My only complaint is that some of the massive boss battles are somewhat of a let down
Sound
9.5
The voice acting is great, the soundtrack sets the perfect mood and sound of an emergence hole still makes me nervous.
Lasting Appeal
10.0
Between online multiplayer, co-op with individual difficulty levels, Horde, and the Seriously 2.0 achievement you will play this game for a very long time
Looks fun, but graphics a 10? A little too brown for my tastes...
Posted By: Drew Robbins (Registered) on November 17, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Admittedly it's a bit brown in parts but it is the best looking brown that I've ever seen.
Posted By: Joe Roche (Guest) on November 17, 2008 at 12:56 AM
The sound should get a 10 for the tickers alone. Hearing them coming gives you the worst feeling when playing on Insane.
Posted By: WhiteRoom (Guest) on November 17, 2008 at 01:58 AM
I 100% agree with the part of the summary review where he says boss battles are a let down...I didn't feel that same difficulty that I felt during the train fight in GoW 1
Posted By: Dan Watson (Guest) on November 17, 2008 at 03:15 AM
IMO, this game is now officially to be considered "the Halo Killer."
Posted By: JP (Guest) on November 17, 2008 at 10:52 AM
Those friggin' tickers piss me off so much when I'm playing Horde and I can hear them but not see em before BOOM. Bastards.
Posted By: Joe Roche (Guest) on November 17, 2008 at 04:35 PM
I will agree with you on boss fights seeming somewhat of a let down... Especially the battle with Scourge, the way he just pussies up and runs away... Cole on the PA system was absolutely hilarious! Especially when Baird ripped the chord out, and tried to sooth Cole about it.
Cole-Train is by far the funniest character in the game, and I hope Gears 3 is 4 player co-op because I want to play as Cole..
Posted By: Toddo (Guest) on November 17, 2008 at 05:38 PM
*spits out milk*
Graphics....a.....a....a 10?
What the hell does the game do that deserves a 10? Blood covered Marcus? Man, you must think that God of War 1 and 2 was a platter of ambrosia from the Gods.
Lets take a look at this for a second, you say that this is the best looking brown? Ummm....that is a color. Even the Wii can put out brown. Is this brown SOOOOO special because it is a color that you have never seen in your LIFE? Hell, I can make brown on Mario Paint.
By the by, I do not really feel the character models either. It kind of reminds me of using troll dolls or something. The only thing that is missing is the crazy pink coming from the head of Marcus. *shakes head*
I would give it a 9.0. That is just me, I guess the blood really moved you to see perfection. If it is not a talent, but an actual skill, I would suggest you take an art class. Evidently, artistic appreciation is not one of your stronger points. Especially true, if the color brown puts you in such a state of awe.
Posted By: David (Guest) on November 18, 2008 at 05:58 AM
David, when I said that it was just my opinion, but you seem to be acting like what you say is fact.
Different strokes for different folks, don't act like you are smarter than someone because you despise their appreciation of brown.
Posted By: Drew Robbins (Registered) on November 18, 2008 at 07:57 AM
Good review Joe, although I have to agree the graphics are far not a 10. Maybe for 360 standards, but I'd still put MGS4 above and beyond Gears 2.
Posted By: Mark Salmela (Registered) on November 18, 2008 at 08:00 AM
Dave got PWND!!
Posted By: Hater (Guest) on November 18, 2008 at 04:47 PM
Mark, PS3 has ONE game that can compare graphically to Gears 2. ONE. I own both, and the Xbox306 kicks the shit out of the PS3 overall. Stop with the bullshit. That said, great review...I had all the same complaints and kudos. And David, you're a dick. No wonder you don't have any friends. Mom doesn't count.
Posted By: Guest#3221 (Guest) on November 18, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Drew,
What I said is a fact, it should be a requirment to some idea of ART before you talk about graphics. If suggest that a depiction of brown is remarklable, then you desperately need some art classes. Keep in mind, that is not a suggestion......
Posted By: David (Guest) on November 19, 2008 at 12:26 AM
LOL
Good review, Joe. You got the kind of response that says it's right on the money.
Posted By: Rod Oracheski (Registered) on November 19, 2008 at 03:53 AM
Drew,
What I said is a fact, it should be a requirment to some idea of ART before you talk about graphics. If suggest that a depiction of brown is remarklable, then you desperately need some art classes. Keep in mind, that is not a suggestion......
Posted By: David (Guest) on November 19, 2008 at 12:26 AM
David,
Actually, it is YOU who needs to have some idea of art before you go spouting off, you pretentious wanker. The thing about art is that it is so subjective. What one likes, and what gets one going, may leave another flat and cold. It's not up to you to say; you're making an objective judgement about a subjective statement. Really, is Andy Warhol's painting of a fucking soup can "art"? A lot of people think so. Is that bullshit Jackson Pollack did "art"? I don't think so, but a lot of people do. The man threw paint at a canvas and called it art, and got a lot of people to go along with him. At one time, graffiti was considered defacement, but people began to see the artistic merit of it over time. I don't like Krzysztof Penderecki's compositions, but it's recognized as art. Thing is, art's subjective, and what one man or woman enjoys, and thinks of as art, you may not, but your high-handed, snotty browbeating of a video game review because of the color brown is just juvenile, and shows you're a friendless butthole, probably with a tiny penis and no life. Not a very good understanding of what "art" is, either. Now, I'm sure if you ask really nicely, your mom will make you some cookies and milk to make you feel better. She may even buy you a coloring book and some crayons, so you can get back to YOUR "art".
Posted By: Art School Graduate (Guest) on November 19, 2008 at 12:40 PM
Dave got PWND!!! Again!
Posted By: Hater (Guest) on November 19, 2008 at 04:28 PM
art school grad: brilliant. you sound like one of my people from good ole MSA
Posted By: supa sta (Guest) on November 19, 2008 at 07:12 PM
When you consider a game has "great looking brown," there is nothing that separates the author from the pretentious wankers that think a can of soup is art. In all honesty, humanity needs to shuffle off this mortal coil. That is especially true if we continue to illustrate our great ineptitude in all things. On a side note, the recognization of art is like any other talent. Even idiots can claim they can do it. Just like procreation, there are some people that cannot grasp the simplest of concepts.
Take the deconstruction of the english language, are you so naive to think that its current state is healthy? Honestly, do you think that "Idiocracy" was mearly a fairy tale? As some of these posters have illustrated, the prophecy was chillingly accurate.
Posted By: David (Guest) on November 20, 2008 at 01:47 AM
I got this one.
See David knew he was wrong, so he shifted the conversation to be about a different subject.. Dave is famous for this. See, Joe went from being an artistic idiot for liking the use of browns in the game, to being a pretentious wanker because he doesn't agree with David about art. Now it is the fault of the entire english language, and apparently Mike Judge's fault as well.
" the recognization of art is like any other talent. Even idiots can claim they can do it."
-Which explains why Dave thinks he can post "smart sounding" high intellect comments and people will take it as gospel...
Curious Dave, what did you feel about all that brown in MGS4? I bet that was okay because Kojima said so right?
Posted By: Hater (Guest) on November 20, 2008 at 01:20 PM
When you consider a game has "great looking brown," there is nothing that separates the author from the pretentious wankers that think a can of soup is art. In all honesty, humanity needs to shuffle off this mortal coil. That is especially true if we continue to illustrate our great ineptitude in all things. On a side note, the recognization of art is like any other talent. Even idiots can claim they can do it. Just like procreation, there are some people that cannot grasp the simplest of concepts.
Take the deconstruction of the english language, are you so naive to think that its current state is healthy? Honestly, do you think that "Idiocracy" was mearly a fairy tale? As some of these posters have illustrated, the prophecy was chillingly accurate.
Posted By: David (Guest) on November 20, 2008 at 01:47 AM
Let me add to my previous characterization of you, David. You're a sub-literate moron who spouts gibberish posing as profundity, hoping no one will notice. Well, we did. Now, please shut up, until you can post a response that makes sense, or at least one you don't have to have Down's Syndrome to understand.
Posted By: Art School Graduate (Guest) on November 20, 2008 at 03:34 PM
Hater,
What did I think about the brown in MGS4? I thought the brown was, I don't know, the color brown. *rolls eyes* Are you going to ask me what I feel when I put my hands into the Pacific Ocean? News flash, I will think it is wet. Do you have any more asinine questions?
And Collins College Graduate, I was so moved by your words, but I choose to ignore them. Unfortunately, you are nothing more than a childish fanboy by masterful use of the english language. Therefore, you are in the same boat as "Hater."
*chuckles*
Posted By: David (Guest) on November 20, 2008 at 07:45 PM
I give up. I've been beaten.
Posted By: David the Capitulating Pussy (Guest) on November 20, 2008 at 07:54 PM
David,
It's sad you don't get what people were trying to tell you, including me. Joe posted an "OPINION". That's all a review is. It was a good, well-informed, and well-founded opinion, but an opinion nonetheless. That's what he's here for. He said he liked the graphics, and brown was a prominent color. Why does he need a degree in art history for that? What, in your (frankly mongoloid) opionion constitutes art? The game looks good, and a lot of creative and talented people worked on it. It turned out well, and is fun to play, and beautiful to look at. End of story. Now please go away, you fucking loser. Cuntatious twatdrippings like you ruin the internet.
Posted By: Christ, David Sucks (Guest) on November 20, 2008 at 09:48 PM
Unfortunately, my friend, you fail to grasp the point at hand. I am completely aware that it is his opinion, but the merit of an opinion can be easily measured. Do you think opinions allow a person to have carte blanche? Honestly?
Posted By: David (Guest) on November 21, 2008 at 12:08 AM
"What I said is a fact..."
Give up on arguing with Dave. There's just no point to it. There's only his fact or your opinion at play, and that's how he always sees it - no matter the subject at hand.
"Admittedly it's a bit brown in parts but it is the best looking brown that I've ever seen."
I mean Jesus Christ, he took THAT line seriously. Basic reading comprehension obviously isn't high on his list of skills.
Posted By: Rod Oracheski (Registered) on November 21, 2008 at 01:28 AM
"Do you think opinions allow a person to have carte blanche? Honestly? "
Did David just ask that? I'm not one to usually get involved in these David R flames, but how can a person who obviously values his opinion more than God's own, say something like that? I mean come on man, anyone who hasn't agreed with your opinion has basically been referred to as a complete dolt. You act as if their opinion has no validity, yet your opinion on whatever subject, is golden. For instance, if I would have come in here and said something like "I kind of like the use of brown, it really makes the more important colors stick out during the rest of the game."
You would more than likely refer to me as a simpleton, who has absolutely no clue about art.
You also stated that the browns in MGS4 are just... brown. So are we to understand that some of us may or may not have an affinity for the color brown we are all complete idiots just because you do not like the color? I'm sorry Dave, but you really need to think a bit more before drumming out some of your comments.
I understand you come in trying to make a valid point, but you do it in such a way that you come off as a pretentious know it all prick, who thinks his shit doesn't stink.
Posted By: Toddo (Guest) on November 21, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Coming from the resident 360 fanboy, that matters very little to me. Evidently, ANYONE that doesn't agree with your PRECIOUS opinion on the 360 is a fanboy. Talk about a warped view of reality. Next up, Canada is going to be a world power....
Posted By: David (Guest) on November 21, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Toddo,
You have to understand something, I have a track record on being right 99% of the time; so, please forgive any arrogance that you preceive. Unfortunately, the vast amount of data has caused an air of certainty and beign less graceful. To cure ignorance, a person needs to use a sledge hammer, not love taps.
Posted By: David (Guest) on November 22, 2008 at 12:50 AM
David, pull your head out of your ass, before your fart and blow your brains out. Of course, if you did, you'd be covered with brown...
Seriously, people like you get beaten up regularly in real life. I wish I knew you personally...I just tore up my striking bag. Everlast, my ass.
Posted By: David D. Douchebag (Guest) on November 22, 2008 at 11:22 AM
"You have to understand something, I have a track record on being right 99% of the time..."
I bet your mom said you were special too, right?
Posted By: Rod Oracheski (Registered) on November 22, 2008 at 11:39 AM
Douche,
If you read "Ender's game," you would realize that I was Ender Wiggins 100% of time. Outside of killing them, they all shared the same fate. Care to join them? *grins* Or are you going to need to use a gun to regulate? *grins* If it is ever fist-to-fist, I'm your Huckleberry.
Oracheski,
I bet you were saving that one, all day. First off, you play the part all wrong. You are a nerdy, Canadian white boy (with glasses). You would only serve as comedic relief on a really horrible PRO-US sitcom from the 1930's. Pipe in when you have something legitimate to add. I know you have to TRY and play the role of comedic relieft, but your timing seems to be off a bit. Maybe you should mediate for a few hours. Hell, you can try reaching outside your box and read a book. That'll help.
Posted By: David (Guest) on November 22, 2008 at 06:12 PM
99% right. Too bad he spends that 1% of his time here making comments.
Posted By: Rod Oracheski (Registered) on November 23, 2008 at 12:51 AM
"99% right. Too bad he spends that 1% of his time here making comments"
BUUUUURRRRRRNNNN!!!!!
Yeah, you just lost what little respect you had from me Dave, your arrogance amazes me.
Posted By: Toddo (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 11:18 AM
Toddo,
I guess I was wrong when I posted criticism about the lack of a Too Human review. Then, he cries about not being able to take the criticism. If I REALLY cared about your opinion, then I would never post. I could say that Halo is the best game ever, and Oracheski would be off my back. But, I have to speak my mind. The fact remains, I am almost alway right (even when I post cmments). So, I wll get back to you when I give a **** what you or anyone else thinks.
Posted By: David (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 11:41 AM
Toddo,
I guess I was wrong when I posted criticism about the lack of a Too Human review. Then, he cries about not being able to take the criticism. If I REALLY cared about your opinion, then I would never post. I could say that Halo is the best game ever, and Oracheski would be off my back. But, I have to speak my mind. The fact remains, I am almost alway right (even when I post cmments). So, I wll get back to you when I give a **** what you or anyone else thinks.
Posted By: David (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 11:41 AM
Almost always = almost never. You are seriously one of the most deluded, stupid people I've ever seen post. I don't normally get involved in comment/flame wars, but your posts are uniformly arrogant and ignorant. You seem almost unable to form coherent sentences. I'm not a big fan of banning, because in most cases everyone's opinion should be heard, but you bring down the discourse to an infantile and, just frankly, stupid level. You obviously know nothing, but think your opinion is valuable, or even wanted. I can assure you it's not. You really should stick to posting on the Hannah Montana or Backyardigans forums, where you can be around people of your intellectual stature. Maybe then you wouldn't feel so insecure. I care about you man, and it hurts my heart to see you being schooled, pwned, and ridiculed so mercilessly. You can come back when you grow up. Seriously, by then nobody will remember what a choadsmoker you were. I mean, *I'll* forget you just as soon as I wipe and flush...in your case, out of sight is out of mind.
Posted By: Christ, David Sucks (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 12:42 PM
Just because sentences are above your reading level, that does not make them incoherent. It just means that you should probably stop reading your R. L. Stine books and try to join the adult world. Can you grasp that simple concept?
Posted By: David (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 03:57 PM
Just because sentences are above your reading level, that does not make them incoherent. It just means that you should probably stop reading your R. L. Stine books and try to join the adult world. Can you grasp that simple concept?
Posted By: David (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 03:57 PM
Dude, have you *considered* suicide? Look into it...please...I'll give you a cookie.
Posted By: Christ, David Sucks (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 04:16 PM
Damn...I just realized I've been giving David what his mommy won't...attention, thus, encouraging him and giving him a chance to bloviate. Sorry, everyone...I'll stop talking to this bass-ackwards, felching little taintsucker now.
Posted By: Christ, David Sucks (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 04:18 PM
Man, how will I sleep tonight, Dave doesn't care what I think... Oh no!!
How the hell can you have a track record of being right 99% of the time, if your comments are all opinion based? that doesn't even begin to make any sense... How the hell can you be right or wrong about a frickin opinion? Drew likes brown, you apparently think brown is just brown, how does that make you right? If you are so wonderful, and right all the time, tell me again, why did 411 future endeavour your ass?
"I guess I was wrong when I posted criticism about the lack of a Too Human review. "
Oh, whats this? Dave trying desperately to change the subject again? What the f*ck does the Too Human review have to do with your arrogant comments on a Gears of War 2 review?
Changing the subject, diverting attention, these are not things a person who is right will do? A person who is right will offer insight and commentary on why he feels he is right. He doesn't go off on tirades about Canada, and guys with glasses, and the english language, or whatever else he thinks he can use to divert the topic.... These are defensive things... am I right?
You can keep right on posting Dave, I don't recall telling you to stop, I simply stated that your arrogance has caused me to lose respect for you as a fellow 411 fan. You can get pissy and tell me my opinion doesn't matter to you at all, but the fact that you keep clicking back on this review says all of our opinions matter to you.
Posted By: Toddo (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 04:32 PM
How can I have an opinion that is right? Oh, let me see....Heard of the civil rights movement? Martin Lurther King, Jr. had the right idea. THAT WAS AN OPINION! You know what, it is right. Now, on the other side, you have racists...There opinion is that non-whites are less than whites. Is there opinion right? NOPE. Now, you can be the Grand Dragon amongst your friends, but that doesn't make you right. It makes you dead wrong; fruthermore, it goes to illustrate that opinions CAN be right. *sigh*
You didn't think of that one...did you, son?
Posted By: David (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 08:50 PM
What does Too Human have to do with anything? I am glad that you asked. The fact of the matter is this, Mr. O runs his mouth and writes checks that his ass can't cash. That is why I brought it up. It is just to discredit the opinion of another person. Was it aimed towards you? Nope. It was aimed at someone else. But, you did not need ME to tell you that, right?
Posted By: David (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 08:53 PM
Wasn't directed at me? Well pardon my confusion, considering that post had my name at the top of it.. You don't even know what you are saying anymore do you?
Bottom line, we come to this site for info and some debate in the comments section. We do not come here to listen to some blowhard spout off opinions like he got them out of the $5 bin at Wal-Mart. Opinions are like assholes, and you saying that your opinion is the right one doesn't make it fact.
Why do you care so much about this Too Human review? is it because you want to hear about the game? No, you have pretty much already crucified the game as being crap, so what is your angle? Is it that you have nothing else to throw at Rod, so you resort back to the one thing you have on him? Oh I'm sorry, one of the three things you have on him, with the other two being that he is Canadian, and wears glasses?
This is a Gears 2 review, if you got a problem with Rod mention it in his columns, you have no reason to come in and take away from Joe's well written review just to further your beef with Rod.
Posted By: Toddo (Guest) on November 25, 2008 at 01:09 PM
Well, I apologize then, but the fact of the matter is this. Currently, I do not handle idiocy with grace that I had perviously. In addition, you are not without fault. Your response was this: "BUUUUURRRRRRNNNN!!!!!
Yeah, you just lost what little respect you had from me Dave, your arrogance amazes me."
Do you think I should treat you with any respect, honestly? Further more, remembering what you said a few days after the fact requires respect, which you lost. For me to remember what the exchange a few days prior, that would require a level of concern.
Posted By: David (Guest) on November 26, 2008 at 02:07 AM
Well, I apologize then, but the fact of the matter is this. Currently, I do not handle idiocy with grace that I had perviously.
Posted By: David (Guest) on November 26, 2008 at 02:07 AM
You don't handle idiocy well? It must get expensive replacing all the mirrors in your house then, you asswipe douchebag.
Posted By: Guest#6787 (Guest) on November 26, 2008 at 10:29 AM
"Further more, remembering what you said a few days after the fact requires respect, which you lost. For me to remember what the exchange a few days prior, that would require a level of concern."
But yet you remember to click back on this link every day to make sure you get the last word right, and to see what everyone says back to you? Doesn't add up Dave.
I did say BUUURRRNNN, because it made me laugh, and I did lose respect for you because arrogant people who feel they are never wrong are responsible for most of the worlds, problems. Are you truly that pig headed that even when you are wrong you find some way to convince yourself that you were right all along?
Posted By: Toddo (Guest) on November 26, 2008 at 10:43 AM
A few months a go, I would say "yes" to that statement. Now (or semi-recently), I would say that most of the time, it is "no." There are times were I can revert to that former, less refined, self. Keep in mind, that is not psychotic behavior but a lack of inhibition/self-restraint. It can show its face from time to time. If I lost your respect, than I apologize. I hope you understand. It is very COMPLEX. Let us just say that was one of the "yes" moments.
Posted By: David (Guest) on November 26, 2008 at 03:18 PM
dose anyone kno how to set a trap on a wall cuz i throw da grenadeagainst the wall and it just ends up blowing up
Posted By: scrap408killa (Guest) on November 30, 2008 at 07:39 PM
@scrap408killa
You just walk up to the wall and push the grenade throw button, it should put it right into the wall for you.
Posted By: tODDO (Guest) on December 01, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Melee a wall with the grenade equipped and it'll stick it to the wall.
Posted By: Rod Oracheski (Registered) on December 01, 2008 at 08:26 PM
Yep. Rod's right, that was my bad, I haven't touched the game since beating the campaign, I apologize.
Posted By: Toddo (Guest) on December 02, 2008 at 01:38 PM