Ask 411 Movies for 08.30.09: The Column that Drives a Big Red Car
Posted by Leonard Hayhurst on 08.31.2009
Without a Paddle, the Pursuit of D.B. Cooper, the Wiggles, Broadway to Hollywood, Brain Donors and some sequels and remakes you’ll never see
It's the end of August and our last celebrity "Sesame Street" sing-a-long. Tully convinces Ben Stiller to warble the old "People in Your Neighborhood" song. Notice that they meet the cable guy and a mail carrier with something for Mary.
From the Wal-Mart dump bin I snagged this week Predator 2, Lethal Weapon 2, Commando, Jaws and The Man From Snowy River. I'm a dude, I like dude movies.
Q: How about Without a Paddle as underrated?
-The Great Capt. Smooth
A: Nope, it sucks about as much as people say. From 2004, three friends (Matthew Lillard, Seth Green and Dax Shepherd) reunite after the death of their buddy Billy (Antony Starr). Billy was obsessed with finding the missing $200,000 stolen by D.B. Cooper and had done plenty of research into finding it. As tribute to Billy, the other three take a canoeing trip in Oregon to find the money and wackiness ensues.
While we're here, let's go over the case of D.B. Cooper, which I find more interesting than the movie. On Nov. 24, 1971, a man who would become known as D.B. Cooper was a passenger on Northwest Orient Airlines Flight 305. The plane was flying between Portland, Ore. and Seattle, Wash. Cooper slipped a note to a stewardess saying that he had a bomb and he would blow up the plane if he was not given $200,000 and four parachutes when the plane arrived in Seattle. The stewardess gave this information to the cockpit, who relayed it to Seattle. Northwest officials along with local police and the FBI were contacted.
The money and parachutes were delivered and Cooper allowed the plane to land and he released the passengers and some of the flight crew. He had the remaining flight crew take to the skies and head for Mexico. While in the air, Cooper parachuted with the money attached to him from the aft of the plane. The plane landed later in Reno with Cooper believed to have jumped out around the southern Washington area. The money, Cooper, two of the parachutes and the briefcase with the bomb were all gone.
Cooper was never found, although a child on the banks of the Columbia River found $5,800 from his haul in 1980. In 1978, a man hiking around Cooper's believed drop zone found a placard with instructions on how to lower the aft stairs of a 727 airplane. A movie The Pursuit of D.B. Cooper was made in 1981 starring Treat Williams in the title role and Robert Duvall as an insurance investigator trailing him.
Q: Hi Leonard!
As always, great column. My question this week is one that you may not have an answer to, but you would be the closest one to find out. My two-year-old son loves the Wiggles. We have some VHS and DVD shows that he watches constantly. However, I really know nothing about them, other than they are four guys from Australia, and the yellow-shirted guy was replaced a few years ago by an even dorkier looking guy. Any interesting stories or funny anecdotes or useless trivia about this group?
Thanks,
-Gozzz
A: I have three nieces ages seven, five and three; so I know about the Wiggles. Saw them live in concert once. For Play Your Guitar with Murray, he warmed up with "Freebird" and the older parents and grandparents in the audience went totally apeshit.
The current Wiggles are Murray Cook, 49, Jeff Fatt, 56, Anthony Field, 46, and Sam Moran, 31. Greg Page, 37, who Sam replaced, left the group in 2006 due to orthostatic intolerance made worse by a double hernia operation he had in late 2005. The disease can lead to chronic fatigue and poor balance along with other ailments. Page is a huge Elvis fan and even recorded an album with Elvis's former backup band. Page's collection of Elvis memorabilia is estimated to be about $1.5 million. The Wiggles equivalent to Pete Best is Phillip Wilcher. Wilcher left the group after their first album debuted. He says he was kicked out, they say he resigned.
As for Moran, he started out as the host of the Dorothy the Dinosaur Show, a traveling production that hit smaller venues than what the Wiggles were playing. He appeared as a few minor characters in the Wiggles TV show and videos before becoming Page's understudy in 2002. Moran is married to dancer Lyn Stuckey, who was a Wiggles dancer and Dorothy the Dinosaur.
The Wiggles formed in 1991 when the primary members met while studying early childhood education at Macquarie University in Sydney, Australia. They recorded an album and did some shows as a class project and kind of exploded from there. They have earned total 17 gold, 12 platinum, 3 double platinum and 10 multi-platinum albums for worldwide sales of 17 million DVDs and four million CDs.
Field and Fatt met as members of the pop group the Cockroaches, which also included Field's brothers Paul and John. The group disbanded when Paul's daughter died of SIDS. The first Wiggles album is dedicated in her memory. Field united with Wilcher, Cook and Page for the aforementioned class project and asked his old band mate Fatt to join them because they needed a keyboardist.
Among supporting characters are Henry the Octopus, voiced by Fatt, Wags the Dog, Dorothy the Dinosaur and Captain Feathersword. He has been played by Paul Paddick since 1993. Originally Field played the character, but he asked Paddick to fill in for him as Feathersword and the Blue Wiggle in 1993 while he was recovering from a hernia operation. Paddick is also married to a former Wiggles dancer, Charmaine Martin.
As for the others, Cook has a collection of over 30 classic guitars and was named the sixth best guitarist in Australia in a 2008 pole. Makes you wonder who the top five were. Fatt is of Chinese dissent. He enjoys surfing and photography. Field married Michaela Patisteas in 2003 and they have three kids. He has several tattoos including the names of his wife and children, the Virgin Mary and a heart. He likes to breed miniature fox terriers, but then again who doesn't.
Witness the Wiggles doing a cover of "You Make Me Feel Like Dancing" with Leo Sayer (not Richard Simmons). This is my proof that God doesn't exist.
Q: Hey Leonard,
Have you mentioned Brain Donors as an underrated comedy before? My brother and I quote that movie all of the time!
John Turturro- "And that spells cash with a capital..."
Bob Nelson- "K!"
JT- "You should go back to school"
BN- "I hated teaching!"
-Gozzz
A: 1992's Brain Donors is a comedy from director Dennis Dugan of Problem Child and Happy Gilmore. Dugan started out as an actor and is probably best remembered as Richie Brockelman from "The Rockford Files." And if that's the best remembered role you have as an actor it's a good idea to get into directing. Dugan is a self confessed lover of old comedy teams like The Three Stooges, The Marx Brothers and Abbott and Costello and that really comes out in this film. John Turturro is a lawyer who teams up with a cab driver (Mel Smith) and a handyman (Bob Nelson) to start a ballet company based on the stipulations of an eccentric millionaire's will. They get opposition from the man's widow (Nancy Marchand) and her lawyer (John Savident). It's another movie that is entertaining on a level, but very derivative of material that has come before it. Although slapstick comedy is slapstick comedy, you don't need to raise a fuss about it being unoriginal.
Q: Here's a question that you may have answered already, but it's one that really irks me...
Why do certain seasons of TV shows get the .5 treatment, cutting the releases of said season into two sets. For example, I am just now working my way through the new Battlestar Galactica. Seasons 2 and 4 both were released in two sets. Is this merely a move to make more money or is there another reason behind this?
And, if you need an underrated comedy, look no further than The Wrong Guys. Classic, but you don't hear that much about it.
-Mario
A: We've already covered The Wrong Guy as an underrated comedy. That's how long we've been on this damn subject, people can't remember what we've already done.
Why some shows have their seasons divided into two sets could be for a variety of different reasons. One, could be a money grab as you said. Two, could be a high number of episodes and/or extras that releasing it all together would be too expensive for what its believed the market would bare. Three, could be some rights issues that still need to be cleared up with various episodes. Four, could be that they put the first half of the season into DVD production while the second half was still being worked on in order to get the DVDs out quickly to maximize profit. Sometimes shows are still shooting while new episodes are airing.
Q: Obviously you didn't have enough questions to answer - so let's throw out a few random movie sequel ideas and tell me which do you think would have legs.
1. Smoochy Goes to War. A network executive wants to place his son into Smoochy's place, so he sends Smoochy to some random location in Afghanistan to bring joy to the children there. Of course the place ends up being a hidden terrorist's camp and they take him prisoner. He ends up escaping and somehow turns the kids of Afghanistan against the terrorists.
2. A cartoon parody of Shawshank using criminals or figures from recent history. OJ as Red, Bernie Madoff as Brooks and Perez Hilton as Boggs. Can't think of someone for Andy though.
3. My Favorite Year with a Reality TV show as the setting.
-Bobby C
A: I don't think there will ever be a sequel to Death to Smoochy, but your idea certainly fits the social commentary and dark humor that the original was aiming at, but didn't quite hit. There's also some Wag the Dog in the there. I have this image of Smoochy carrying a flag with like a thousand screaming children behind him charging a tank and the tank driver just shits himself, literally, because it's so damn weird.
If VH-1's "Acceptable TV" was still on the air or MTV's "Liquid Television" or just some random animated shorts series I could see such a parody as an animated Shawshank Redemption, but it might be a bit too obtuse for most to get their minds around. For Andy, how about Jack Abramoff?
I really, really like your third idea. Hell, we could even get Peter O'Toole still. Have him play basically himself, like in the original version just a different character, in a "Surreal Life" type situation. So you have this classic, older than dirt British actor hanging out with like a dirt bike racer, a Playboy model, some reality show whore, a former boy band singer; just basic quasi-celebrity stereotypes young enough to be his grandkids. Let's make Mark-Linn Baker the producer of the show.
Q: So your a thespian? OK - here's a few questions on the subject of theater and movies.
In your opinion, what were the best movies (non-musical) that were originally plays. Maybe we should limit this to 1970 and later because you could include so many (Streetcar Named Desire, Twelve Angry Men were the first two to come to mind).
Conversely - what plays would work as movies that haven't been done? For this - maybe we can include musicals and include plays written in any era (this one may be tougher).
Finally - what were the worst movies that were originally well-received plays?
-Bobby C
A: Thespian is way too strong a term for what I did. I said my lines and didn't bump into the furniture.
Amadeus and Driving Miss Daisy are two Oscar best picture winners since 1970 that aren't musicals. From this past year you had Frost/Nixon, which was nominated for best picture. On Golden Pond won best adapted screenplay and it was originally a play. For me, the best plays turned into movies are ones that are able to shake the conventions and limitations of the stage and are able to embrace the greater visual storytelling capacity that film allows. Amadeus was heavily rewritten from the stage version, so I'll go with that as my pick for best.
For musicals not turned into films yet I would say Jekyll and Hyde, which I saw a traveling road show of several years ago and enjoyed. Think Sweeney Todd and it could work. Wicked I think could work too, because you have that built in Wizard of Oz fan demographic. It's a known commodity, Hollywood loves that.
The theater I was just working at for Christmas will be doing "The Trial of Ebenezer Scrooge." It's set a year after A Christmas Carol and Scrooge has returned to his old ways and is suing the ghosts for harassing him the year before. It's supposed to be very funny. Again, it's based on a known commodity and with all the of the different versions of the original out there, including the new one with Jim Carrey coming out later this year, it would be cool to get a different take. Not a whole lot else comes to mind really. Let's just look at some successful plays that have not been turned into movies: "Cats," "Miss Saigon," "Avenue Q," "Pippin" and that's when I started feeling gay and stopped looking.
For me the worst movie that was a successful play would be Butterflies are Free. As I mentioned above, I like plays turned into movies that don't feel like plays and this feels and looks just like a filmed version of the stage play. It's looks and sounds very stodgy and stagy. Eileen Hackert and Paul Michael Glaser are in the movie from the original play cast, Keir Dullea and Blythe Danner are replaced by Goldie Hawn and Edward Albert. The story is based loosely on the life of lawyer Harold Krents. A blind man falls for his hippie neighbor, but his overprotective and overbearing mother disapproves.
For musicals, I would probably go with The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas. It's a musical staffed with people who can't sing like Burt Reynolds, Dom DeLuise and Charles Durning and the one guy that actually has a great voice in Jim Nabors doesn't get to sing at all. Of course, Dolly Parton is a great singer and not a bad actress and has the perfect look and star text to play a smart and sassy Texas madam. It's based on the real Chicken Ranch brothel that operated in Texas for years. In the play and movie, Miss Mona has inherited the ranch from the previous owner and keeps the wolves away by having an affair with the local sheriff. A local watchdog activist gets wind of the set up and decides to make it part of his show with political ramifications following. The play was a satirical send up of politics and sexual morals, but the movie is just dim and dumb while going for lowball humor.
Don't die.
"Know dogs? Sure, I used to be a chef in a Korean restaurant."
Here are a few good theatrical versions of plays (non-musical).
Noises Off: A slapstick endeavor about a play going all wrong, with each act representing the actors doing the same scene, getting progressively worse. The first is a dress rehearsal, the second shows the behind-the-scenes at a matinee, and the final is just a complete messup. The casting is great, with Michael Caine, Christopher Reeve, Marilu Henner, John Ritter, and several others.
Speaking of Caine & Reeve, they also starred together in the theatrical adaptation of Deathtrap, an interesting mystery drama about an aging playwright who would kill to have another hit.
Finally, there is also "A Few Good Men", which of course became a Jack Nicholson vehicle, even though his character only had three or four scenes.
Posted By: Michael L (Guest) on August 31, 2009 at 01:02 AM
You have previously covered "The Wrong Guy" but not "The Wrong Guys," a completely different movie altogether.
Posted By: Commie (Guest) on August 31, 2009 at 01:46 AM
Leonard, maybe I missed the initial explanation on what you consider an underrated comedy, but do you go by what the critics think or what the grosses are? Might it be a combo of both?
Posted By: The Great Capt. Smooth (Guest) on August 31, 2009 at 05:41 AM
First of all, that's Telly, not "Tully". Shame-shame-shame.
I agree with you on about 95% of your take on "Best Little Whorehouse in Texas", but definitley take issue with you that Charles Durning can't sing. The movie was a slow, plodding mess until The Governor breaks out with "The Sidestep". That scene (along with the "Hard Candy Christmas" rendition) almost make the rest of the movie worthwhile. Charles Durning made it work, prooving that one doesn't have to be a great vocalist to make a song your own.
Posted By: Truth Detector (Guest) on August 31, 2009 at 08:47 AM
IS there any truth behind the story of Multiple endings being filmed for Tim Burtons ,Planet of the Apes?
Posted By: Guest#6442 (Guest) on August 31, 2009 at 10:58 AM
Will there ever be a "History of the World, Part II"?
"South Park - Bigger Longer and Uncut" - best original movie musical in the past 20 years?
We hear all about movies being dropped in pre-production, but how often does filming actually begin - only for the movie never to be completed? And which film cost the most only to never be fully released?
Posted By: BobbyC (Guest) on August 31, 2009 at 11:09 AM
Don't (or should I say didn't) know thing one about the Wiggles but your subtitle reminded me of one of my favorite lines ever from Scrubs:
Cox: I've seen The Wiggles live in concert. Twice.
Turk: Did they play "Big Red Car?"
Cox: They opened and closed the set with it. It was awesome.
Posted By: neverAcquiesce (Guest) on August 31, 2009 at 11:22 AM
Without a Paddle underrated???? That movie was total shit. Whoever suggested that as an underrated comedy should be banned from ever suggesting a movie again.
Posted By: Butters4Prez (Guest) on August 31, 2009 at 01:03 PM
I know it's not really a comedy, but Kiss Kiss Bang Bang was a seriously underrated movie. Plus it helped start the comeback of one of my favorite actors, Robert Downey JR.
Posted By: Spaghett (Guest) on August 31, 2009 at 01:09 PM
I've been to a Wiggles concert with my little boy. It was a fuckin blast. Of course, my whole enjoyment was how much fun he had at the concert.
Quick question. Is Leo Sayer famous?
Posted By: Big Fat Fag (Guest) on August 31, 2009 at 02:24 PM
"'South Park - Bigger Longer and Uncut' - best original movie musical in the past 20 years?"
Absolutely. It was surreal to hear all these high-class Broadways folks praising a feature-length cartoon with more swear words than Sarah Silverman's "Way of the Gun" rant.
"Oh, fuck that, why the fuck should I have to spell forensics? Here you go: S-U-C-K-M-Y-A-S-S. Forensics."
Posted By: neverAcquiesce (Guest) on August 31, 2009 at 02:45 PM
I think another possible answer to your Battlestar Gallactica DVD question is kinda similar to what you put as possibility number 4. For some reason, it's been in vogue few years to take a complete season, but split it apart and show them at separate times of the year, but still say it's part of the same season. USA Network and SyFy are notorious for doing this. USA just showed about 8 episodes of their "Burn Notice" show, but said they'll show the rest this winter. Therefore, we'll probably get "Burn Notice" season 3 and 3.5 DVD sets.
That Wiggles clip was painful. The weird thing is that Leo Sayer sang that song on "The Muppet Show" about 30 years ago and that version still holds up, while that was just dumb. Do you think kid's programming is getting dumber, or am I just getting older? Also what do you think are the Top 5 best and worst kids shows of all time?
Posted By: JLAJRC (Guest) on August 31, 2009 at 05:36 PM
Hey Leo-nard!
Now that you've finished up with the Sesame Street thing, how about answering some muppet questions? Whats your fave muppet movie? (including the non-Muppet ones like Labyrinth, a list from top to bottom would be cool)
And why on earth have they not released "special editions" of the original 3 muppet films? They're owned by Disney now for gawds sakes, you'd think they'd be up to the "super platinum special limited 32nd anniversary editions" by now!
Posted By: The Capn (Guest) on August 31, 2009 at 08:56 PM
Well if you did cover the Wrong Guys, can we just say we've come full circle and close this subject? Not to start a new tangent, but as far as conedies that I consider overrated, I would put Swingers right at the top. Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the appeal of the movie.
Posted By: Mario (Guest) on September 01, 2009 at 02:44 AM
Of course that Wiggles clip is painful, JLARAwhatever. It's made to entertain little ones. Just like we enjoy muppet clips now, the little ones will enjoy their wiggles clips 20-30 years from now.
Also, another question for ya, Leonard. That bad guy in the Karate Kid, "Johnny," I think. He had a good role as the teen asshole in lots of any movies. What has he done for us lately?
Posted By: Big Fat Fag (Guest) on September 04, 2009 at 02:36 PM
Hi Leonard,
Thanks so much for the mention. I appreciate it:)
I hope you don't mind my passing by.
To clarify : I wrote, arranged and performed most of the music on the Wiggles debut album in 1991 at the request of Anthony Field, yes. I also paid for the majority of recording costs which were later reimbursed me since The Wiggles then were still students. The debut album as released by ABC for Kids was the actual demo tape we submitted to the ABC for consideration. Jeff Fatt came in close to the end of the recording sessions to sequence everything I had done at Anthony's request. The tape was released as recorded without any alteration and afforded The Wiggles a contract for a further two CDs. I wasn't that comfortable performing with them. I was advised to write a letter of resignation so as not to incur any further expenses. It was later verbally agreed I would stay as a writer for the second and third albums. In May of 1992 I was invited to the States to perform at a celebration honouring Liberace.I had done this on several occasions before, 1989 being the first time. During the 3 weeks I was away, the second Wiggles CD "Here Comes A Song" was recorded without me and on my return Anthony informed me I was no longer needed. I've had a long and successful career as a composer since the age of 14.I'm very satisfied by my creativity - so much so I would not want to be anyone but me. In the early nineties, the debut album reached Gold and Platinum status and I received two awards as did the other members of the group.The press discovered me as The Fifth Wiggle around 1997.In early 1998, without notification,the 1991 debut album was phased out and re-recorded with all my work removed.I wasn't given a reason why. No matter.
Life goes on and I'm more than content doing what I do.I've reached a time in my life where now I want to give back through mentoring other aspiring composers what was given me by musicians far greater than myself : the magic of believing.I feel blessed to be able to do this.
Anyway, I just thought I'd thank you and clarify a couple of things. I hope you don't mind.
By the way, the debut album most certainly was not a project assigned The Wiggles at university. Had it been, I would not have been allowed to be involved - or even Jeff for that matter. Jeff was not a student at Macquarie University.
Steve Dow's article titled "A Life Less Wiggly" is one of the most reliabe articles written about me as the Fifth Wiggle, together with Cheryl Critchley's "The Fifth Man". I wouldn't place to much faith in any of the others.
I hope I've not intruded here. I send you my best wishes and thanks again!
Cheers and God bless.....
Posted By: Phillip Wilcher (Guest) on September 07, 2009 at 10:19 PM
Dear Leonard,
I hope you do not mind my passing by again, butI might be able to clarify something further for you - whether its of any real interest or not, I do not know.
I did write a letter of resignaton from The Wiggles in September of 1991 because I wasn't comfortable performing with them and as I said in my earlier comment, I was advised to write the letter so as not to incur any further expenses.Curiously,as it was I did incur expenses for the second album "Here Comes a Song" although the ABC later rectified this during the course of subsequent royalty payments to me.I actually wasn't completely released from the partnership agreement with The Wiggles until the second half of 1992.I wrote a lot of poetry and music for the second album "Here Comes A Song" which can be found at the children's music section of my website with recommendations from various folk.I later self published it all in a small book titled "A Musical Offering". Around March of 1992 Anthony phoned me.It was the first time he had
contacted me since September 1991. He was doing his prac assessment as an early childhood teaching student at Temple Emmanuel here in Sydney.He wanted me to play piano for the children there. This I did. It was a Thursday afternoon. That afternoon Anthony told me The Wiggles were doing a film clip for the song Dorothy the Dinosaur and he wanted me in the clip. It was to be filmed the following Sunday afternoon. It took some coaxing from my family and friends before I agreed to do it. Anthony was then living in a flat in the Sydney suburb of Stanmore. I met him there and we drove to Darling Harbour together.It all went well except that I wasn't told that the film clip was going to be a live concert in front of hundreds of children. Having not performed with The Wiggles in over 6 months or even seen any of them,I didn't know what was required of me.I don't think Murray, Greg or Jeff knew that Anthony had asked me back to be a part of it. They looked a little surprised to see me. I somehow managed to wing it all.I think I did ok considering :)I must say, I nearly died though! That was scary! What was really sweet was that at the end of the concert, a mother came up to me to tell me I was her favourite Wiggle.
So I was still really a member of the group,despite my initally resigning in September 1991.The film clip was released on the ABC for Kids Vol 11. Not sure if it's still available now.In May,as is known I went to the States for 3 weeks to play at celebrations in Las Vegas honouring the legendary Liberace but to return to find "Here Comes A Song" had been recorded without me.
I hope this helps. More than that, I hope you don't mind my being here again.
I send you blessings and best wishes....
Phillip Wilcher
Posted By: Phillip Wilcher (Guest) on September 13, 2009 at 06:35 PM