The 411 Movies Top 5 1.15.10: Week 201 - Top 5 TV Shows of the Decade (2000-2009)
Posted by Trevor Snyder on 01.22.2010
The 411 crew chooses the best shows that lit up the airwaves during the past decade.
I never expected this to be tougher than last week's column, but man, was it ever. Having taken a look at the best movies of the decade last week, I just figured it would be fun to follow up with a similar look at television. It was only when I started to compile my list that I realized what a golden age of TV we are currently in. So whenever somebody tells you that there's just nothing worth watching on TV, you can safely assume that person is a complete moron. And I'm willing to bet my fellow 411 writers will back me up on that argument, as I would assume they had just as tough a time as I did narrowing down their choices for:
THE TOP 5 TV SHOWS OF THE DECADE (2000-2009)
TREVOR SNYDER
Honorable Mentions:Battlestar Galactica, The Office (UK), Curb Your Enthusiasm
5. South Park
When South Park first debuted, it got by on little more than pure nonsense and the thrill of seeing young kids being so crude. Sure, it was funny – for a time. But there was no way a show like that could go for too long before starting to get old. Then came the South Park movie, which could have easily been the series' swan song. Instead, by fashioning a pointed (and critically acclaimed) attack on both censorship and misguided American pride, creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone revealed (even to themselves, it seems) that there was so much more they could do with the show. Since that time, South Park has grown into one of the sharpest cultural satires on television, completely unafraid to take on anything, anyone, or any side of a particular issue. Sure, it's still nonsensical and crude, but it's also one the smartest shows around. Who would have guessed it back when Cartman was just a fat kid yelling "beefcake?"
4. Lost
ABC wanted a show about people stranded on an island. That's all. But when they contacted J.J. Abrams to write the script for the pilot, they ended up with a modern TV classic. Abrams, together with Damon Lindelof, decided the only way to make a tired premise like this interesting was to add a somewhat supernatural angle to it, and to keep piling on mystery after mystery in order to keep the viewers hooked. It is a testament to the show's creative power that both fans and ABC alike have patiently stuck with the show as it continuously piles on questions in favor of answers. But then, that has become the charm of Lost, as fans are encouraged to endlessly debate the show's infinite possibilities with one another after each new episode. Lindelof and Carlton Cuse have continued to make Lost one of the most endlessly discussed shows around, and I'm sure that's something that will continue on even after its upcoming final season.
3. The Wire
How do you follow up serving as both writer and producer on Homicide: Life on the Street, arguably the greatest network police drama ever (and, coincidentally, also based on a book you wrote)? If you're David Simon, you turn around and create the greatest cable drama ever. Simon's The Wire, much like Homicide, focuses on the city on Baltimore. But unlike Homicide, which stuck to the work of the titular Homicide squad, The Wire expanded to cover different facets of the city over its amazing five seasons. Whether it be the drug trade, the port system, the schools or the newspapers, The Wire cast an unflinching eye upon every aspect of the city's corruption. As a result, it was unlike any other show ever seen since – a fascinating look at just how exactly a city works. It might not have ever been the most successful show as far as the mainstream goes, but The Wire's place in TV history is secure.
2. The Daily Show with Jon Stewart
For anyone who cares about news in America, this was a pretty disappointing decade. Oh, sure, there was a proliferation of 24/7 news channels, but this unfortunately turned out to be a bad thing, as the news cycle turned into little more than partisan squawking from both sides of the aisle. From the wreckage of news respectability, however, emerged The Daily Show, which under the guidance of Jon Stewart changed from the slight satire of local news that it was under Craig Kilborn to a sharp and pointed look at the hypocrisy of national news media and politics. Stewart's decision to bring on former Onion writers helped facilitate this change, which soon saw The Daily Show become, in an odd way, one of the most reliable news shows around – despite Stewart and company's recurring insistence that they are nothing more than a "fake news show." That didn't stop Americans from actually voting Stewart the most trusted news anchor currently on TV, though. In fact, there are times when I think the writers of The Daily Show are the only people I would actually trust to be in charge of the country. But, then again, that would probably give them a lot less time to work on The Daily Show, and that would be a damn shame.
1. Arrested Development
Looking back, it's easy to be angry about Arrested Development's eventual cancellation, but I think instead we should just be thankful we even got three seasons. That the notoriously trigger-happy FOX stuck with it that long is something of a miracle, but I suspect that it had something to do with the fact that even the most heartless TV executive just couldn't stand to part with something so…brilliant. Perhaps the most excellently constructed comedy show ever, Arrested Development might not have had the biggest audience, but it rewarded those viewers it did have with a continuously evolving storyline and a series of call-backs and tie-ins that make repeat viewings somehow even more fun than the first time you watched it. I'd start to list some of my favorite moments, but geez, that's almost its own Top 5 column. Suffice to say, TV comedy just doesn't get any smarter, or better, than this.
BRYAN KRISTOPOWITZ
Honorable Mentions:Law & Order: Criminal Intent, Rescue Me, The Unit
5. NCIS
NCIS is a spin off of JAG, a military themed show that critics hated (well, maybe they didn't hate it but they sure as heck didn't get all ooh ah about it) but a sizeable audience loved because the show was on for like ten years. NCIS started in 2003, most likely with the JAG audience watching it as well. It is now 2010, JAG is off the air, and NCIS is now the # 1 drama on television (the show's overall rating has increased with every season, something unheard of in network TV). How did it get there? It somehow expanded its audience. NCIS is still a military themed show, but it's become more and more a police procedural than anything else (NCIS stands for Naval Criminal Investigation Service). And people like watching police procedurals. And you really can't beat Mark Harmon as a solid show lead star. He's a great actor, he's been there from the beginning, and when he isn't there the show suffers. NCIS now has its own spin off and continues to be a top rated show. And the critics kind of like it now. The sky may not be the limit for this show.
4. Jericho
Jericho only lasted two seasons, twenty-nine episodes, but the fact that some people (people like me) are still talking about it means that it must have struck a chord with audiences. In fact, it was the show's incredibly dedicated audience that launched a campaign to get the show back for a second season and was successful (the second season was only seven episodes, but that's seven episodes more than anyone thought they'd get after CBS cancelled it). And when that second season ended people still wanted more. Now, there's talk of a potential movie version of the show, there's a "third season" in comic book form, and people are still buying the show's DVD's and watching it in reruns on the Sci-Fi Channel. Twenty-nine episodes, it's an American show, and it still matters. Who the heck thought that would have happened after the end of the first season?
3. 24/Lost
I've never watched an episode of either of these shows, but I've decided to include them on my list because of their reputations. Both shows helped start the modern "serial" show idea and showed TV executives that audiences would watch a show that required you to watch from the beginning and keep watching so you could understand the story. Both shows required the audience to pay attention, which goes against everything that TV executives have said about TV audiences for decades. And, to a certain extent, both shows helped popularize the "DVR" thing, not to mention the "TV show on DVD" thing where people record shows not only to watch at a later time but rewatch to study the plot (same thing for DVD's). Changing the way people watch TV has to count for something, doesn't it?
2. CSI: Crime Scene Investigation
CSI is a police procedural with a twist. It's not so much about cops with guns chasing down the bad guys and engaging in shoot outs with those bad guys. Instead, it's more about the cops/investigators that examine crime scenes, collect the evidence, and then, through science, figure out who did it. Essentially, it's a new puzzle every week. The show also helped make gore acceptable on TV (for instance, Bones couldn't exist without the gore precedent set by CSI). And above all else, CSI helped change the culture at large by making regular people believe that "the evidence/science doesn't lie." If there's no scientific evidence that says the guy did it, then the guy didn't do it. Gil Grissom knows what he's doing. And think about this, pretty much every new cop/crime show must include a forensic investigator character among its cast because otherwise people just aren't going to accept it. The science doesn't lie, after all. If you don't have the science, you don't have a case.
1. Family Guy
Family Guy got its start at the tail end of the 1990's, and while it initially got three seasons it pretty much fizzled out by 2003. The audience couldn't find it, Fox lost confidence in it, and it passed on into prime time animated TV show history. But then the show came out on DVD and started airing in reruns on the Cartoon Network, the DVD sales were huge, the CN ratings were huge, and suddenly Fox wanted more episodes. The show eventually came back in 2005 with new episodes, and the show became an even larger pop culture machine. The show, whether you liked it or not, became important. It's hard to top that in my mind. I know I certainly never thought the show would come back from the dead.
SHAWN S. LEALOS
5. Dexter
The show is on a pay network (Showtime) and presents us with a serial killer as a main protagonist, and remains one of the most successful critically acclaimed shows on TV. That is almost unheard of and reminds me of another show, with the same qualifications, that might be on anyone else's list. The reason I have Dexter on my list and not The Sopranos is because, somewhere along the way, the mob drama lost me. Dexter has done nothing in its first four seasons except get better. The fact that the Golden Globes finally rewarded Michael C. Hall is proof that the rest of America is finally catching on to the fact that Dexter is one of the best things going today.
4. The Shield
FX is a network that likes to take chances on risky, daring shows. The FX series that sits at the top of the mountain is the Shawn Ryan created series The Shield. The fact that Ryan wrote for two different shows in my Top 5 proves that he is one of the best people working in television today. In the seven seasons that The Shield was on the air, we joined Vic Mackey and his Strike Team as they broke every law in the book, but remained with them because we knew they were seeking the higher good (and to escape the force rich). By the end of the seventh season only two of our heroes live and we finally stop following Vic wherever he leads us when he takes the coward's way out. The show is a tragedy and the road to the end was the most compelling on television.
3. The Wire
The Wire was more than just a television series. It was high art, as close to a film like experience I have ever seen in a television show. Each season focuses on a different part of the city of Baltimore. It looks at the illegal drug trade, the port system, the city government, the school system and the news media. The show, created by former police reporter David Simon, looks at how everyone in the city lives together and how everything affects each other in the infrastructure. It was nominated for two Primetime Emmys and was never touched by the Golden Globes but remains one of the greatest shows of all time.
2. Angel
This is my all time favorite show, not only of the last decade, but of all time. It is a spinoff of the excellent Buffy the Vampire Slayer but is miles better than even that show. David Boreanaz is perfect as the vampire with a soul and his supporting cast is great in their roles, from Alexis Denisof, J. August Richards and Charisma Carpenter to Amy Acker, Christian Kane and the late Andy Hallett. The show had its legs chopped out from under it in its final season and had to wrap up the series early but the finale that Joss Whedon gave us, with everyone in the middle of a great battle in the Apocalypse, was a fitting end to a brilliant and entertaining series. Its debut was in 1999 but its main lifespan was in the 2000s, so I include it here.
1. Lost
While Angel is my favorite series on this list, I cannot ignore the significance of Lost, another show that I love. What makes Lost great is a complex storyline that is hard to get away with on network television. From the first scene, when the survivors of the plane crash are all scrambling on the beach, trying to save themselves to the upcoming final season where - hopefully - all the mysteries are revealed, the show remains the most innovative and brilliant on television today. The cast is just about perfect, the structure is groundbreaking and the direction is almost cinema-like. The show is amazing and its final season is my most anticipated series this year.
STEVE GUSTAFSON
Honorable Mentions:Dexter, 30 Rock, and Deadwood.
IMPORTANT NOTE, SO READ IT: I only included shows that started in the 2000s! If it premiered 1999 or earlier, it didn't make the list. So Google a show first to avoid looking like a moron.
5. It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
Frank. Mac. Dennis. Charlie. Sweet Dee. The Gang. A group after my own heart. While some have gone as far to say this show is like Seinfeld on crack, I disagree. The series follows our five alcoholic friends who are run Paddy's Pub, somehow keeping the run-down bar in Philadelphia in business. Each controversial episode is an example of their character traits: Dishonest, selfish, egotistical, and always looking for the easy way. Their exploits included faking cancer in an effort to get laid, turning up on opposite sides of an abortion rally for the same purpose (to get chicks), and setting one of their own on fire to get famous. And don't get me started on the supporting cast; from The Waitress and Rickety Cricket to The McPoyle clan and Carmen (the transsexual). No topic is too touchy, no joke too broad. But don't wave this show away because of its crassness. It's the type of show most of you would write if you could. If you haven't see this show yet, check it out on Hulu!
4. The Shield
Before this show came on Michael Chiklis was just the Commish. But after seven seasons of well-crafted, brilliant storylines and brutal cop work, Chiklis is one bad ass dude that makes me pray I never encounter an officer like him. The premise is about an experimental division of the Los Angeles Police Department set up in the fictional Farmington district (The Farm) of Los Angeles, using a converted church (The Barn) as their police station. Sorta based on the true life Rampart Division police scandal, this show never stopped throwing action and drama your way. Not only in the daily activities that police work entail, but in the lives of each of the characters. The series finale is one of my favorites of all time and shows that crime (By itself or fighting it) doesn't pay.
3> Curb Your Enthusiasm
Larry David. This show lives, breathes, and dies on this man. No race, color, or creed is safe on this show and the clever writing keeps this on my must-see list. How would you describe this show to someone who has never seen it? It's like describing what salt tastes like. While you might find Larry unlikeable, you'll find yourself not being able to look away as this mockumentary shadows his adventures in life. And they are pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good.
Awesome Fact: In 2003, Juan Catalan, a resident of Los Angeles, was cleared of premeditated murder charges against a material witness (a crime eligible for capital punishment) after outtake footage shot for the Carpool Lane episode showed him and his daughter attending the Los Angeles Dodgers vs. Atlanta Braves baseball game some 20 miles from the crime-scene at the time of the murder.
2. The Wire
Baltimore represent! Even if I didn't live 15 minutes from Charm City, The Wire would be one among the best ever. David Simon wrote this series as a modern Greek tragedy. And while you're watching it, you can't help but see that in the storylines. Each season focused on a different facet of the city; the illegal drug trade, the port system, the city government and bureaucracy, the school system, and the print news media. Simon has said that the show is "really about the American city, and about how we live together. It's about how institutions have an effect on individuals, and how whether you're a cop, a longshoreman, a drug dealer, a politician, a judge or a lawyer, you are ultimately compromised and must contend with whatever institution you've committed to." We may never see a show that lays it all out so openly and honestly again.
1. Arrested Development
"Now the story of a wealthy family who lost everything, and the one son who had no choice but to keep them all together. It's Arrested Development."
I was really, really, really tempted to just put Arrested Development in spots 1 through 5. I wouldn't have had any problem with that. This show truly is the best ensemble show ever. You rarely see the chemistry they had on TV and it elevates this show above 99% of the other series out there. For three seasons they crammed in layer after layer after layer of laughs; from the beginning narration to "On the next Arrested Development..." They approached themes the majority of shows would be afraid to touch because their writer's wouldn't know how to make them funny and accessible. I love this show and I started to type of the funny quotes, cool guest stars, and memorable moments, but realized everything about this show is awesome. From the Sunday brunch restaurant named "Skip Church's" to their expert ability to sneak in some...dirty word usage. The chicken dance, Franklin the puppet, Ron Howard's narration, Tobias Funke Analrapist, Charlize Theron as Rita, Henry Winkler as the family lawyer, Bob Loblaw's Law Blog...the greatness of this show can't be touched.
Next week, we take a look at what could be the hardest Decade list yet...The Top 5 Performances of the Decade.
Curb Your Enthusiasm is the only show on this list that's worth a damn. You see this is why we are all fucked. The human race is pointless. We just keep breeding more and more people and as each decade passes people keep getting stupider and stupider. Family Guy? Dear God, just kill me.
Posted By: Ebert Jr (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 12:46 AM
No Friday Night Lights?
Posted By: Forrest (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 12:47 AM
Angel was Twilight before Twilight.
Posted By: Guest#0826 (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 12:57 AM
5) Breaking Bad
4) Dexter
3) King of the Hill
2) The Daily Show
1) South Park
Posted By: Guest#0936 (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 01:24 AM
The new Battlestar Galactica. Hands down.
Posted By: LostCitySaint (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 01:24 AM
#1 The Shield so intense
#2 The Wire deep involving storyline
#3 Monk can't believe you all left it off
#4 Rome another left off
#5 Firefly short lived but awesome
Posted By: Guest#1508 (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 01:42 AM
Supernatural, Breaking Bad, The Office, Scrubs, Battlestar Galactica, Firefly, Six Feet Under, etc, all miss out...
Everyone here should be ashamed of themselves.
Posted By: Dave M (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 02:03 AM
No love for House or Supernatural?
Posted By: Guest#3535 (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 02:33 AM
Doctor Who
Posted By: Guest#4918 (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 03:12 AM
No love for Firefly?
Posted By: Finn (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 03:27 AM
2 people pick A.D. Brian picks Family guy. Oh Brian.
5. 24
4. Curb
3. Dr. Who
2. Dexter
1. Arrested Development
Posted By: JBL (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 04:12 AM
Family Guy is a terrible show. Mainly, it's joke is 'remember that old TV show/ movie/ or household product and then it just recreates it. That's not clever and the animation is terrible. Not clever Beavis and Butthead or South Park terrible, just terrible.
SHield: I love over-acting. Oh wait, no I don't "AHHH!" I saw that on the show and never looked back.
Curb your Enthusiasm. I've never wanted to beat up a screen so much in my life and I only saw five minutes of one episode. Just seems premise is the premise and the premise is 'it's a premise'
Jon Stewarts Daily Show lacks on thing: that little doll he had on his old Fox show. It was his most clever bit on that show.
Now, you may think I'm just being negative and you'd be right.
Angel. The worst part of that show was the fact that it's a spin-off where he was the main squeeze of the ITS main character which is always on the mind. That and David Boreanez ages like the rest of us. Can't do anything about that.
I never saw Lost and I never saw Arrested Development because I hate Jason Batemen.
Posted By: Alex (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 04:13 AM
Alot of great picks here, but I would have to throw in Nip/Tuck, Battlestar Galactica, and the American version of the Office.
Posted By: Mario (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 04:14 AM
Top 5 TV shows of the decade and you guys point to a show that lasted three years and will be all but forgotten in the coming decade. You might as well have put firefly on your list. Are they good shows sure why not, are they the top 5 shows of the decade. The Wire is truly exceptional and deserves its place.
Go ask people about AD in 5 years and see how many remember it, then go check and see how many people remember SOPRANOS and see the difference.
So I leave you with the following - Just end it, Worst list ever.
Posted By: Junk (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 04:33 AM
Posted By: REBEL (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 04:36 AM
I wasn't the biggest fan, but how has no one mentioned 'The Sopranos'?
Posted By: Pete (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 05:33 AM
Hey Gustafson, if 'The Sopranos' isn't on any of these lists because it technically started in 1999 that is the dumbest technicality I've ever heard. Seeing as how the majority of it's run was this decade. Kudos to Lealos for including Angel even though it started in 1999.
Posted By: Pete (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 05:41 AM
Angel
CSI
Arrested Development
The Shield
The Sopranos
Posted By: Guest#4675 (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 06:14 AM
Didn't any of you watch Rome?
Posted By: Q:? (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 06:36 AM
No Doctor Who? You are moronic parasites...
Posted By: Guest#4050 (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 07:09 AM
Are we allowed to do shows that were on during the decade, regardless of when they started (for example nobody called you out on South park starting in the late 90s).
Anyways, here are some of my favs:
Sopranos, L word, Firefly, Farscape, Rome, the office, South Park, Desperate Housewives, Futurama, The Osbournes, Jackass, to name a few.
Posted By: AG Awesome (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 07:13 AM
"5)The Simpsons
Posted By: REBEL (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 04:36 AM"
What the fuck?
The best of The Simpsons was broadcast in the 90's
Posted By: AngryTas (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 07:46 AM
My oh my, no love for Charlie Harper or Hank Moody seems like a big fail to me! ;-)
Posted By: hombre (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 07:56 AM
Awesome list Lealos, perfectly picked. I would give an honourable mention to BSG and Curb aswell though
Posted By: Shooter (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 08:28 AM
5- Lost
4- Arrested Development
3- Angel
2- Family Guy
1- Farscape
Posted By: Madcapunlimited (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 08:50 AM
No love for House MD?
And the best TV show in the world is TV Burp. It's a shame the American's can't get their heads around British humour.
Posted By: Quimby (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 09:02 AM
Honorable Mentions: 30 Rock, Family Guy, The Office (UK Version), Curb Your Enthusiasm, CSI, Scrubs, True Blood, Flight Of The Conchords, Sopranos, The Wire, Chapelle's Show
5) Jericho
4) Arrested Development
3) Dexter
2) The Office (US Version)
1) Rescue Me
Posted By: Monty (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 09:35 AM
"Top 5 TV shows of the decade and you guys point to a show that lasted three years and will be all but forgotten in the coming decade. You might as well have put firefly on your list. Are they good shows sure why not, are they the top 5 shows of the decade. The Wire is truly exceptional and deserves its place.
Go ask people about AD in 5 years and see how many remember it, then go check and see how many people remember SOPRANOS and see the difference."
Posted By: Junk (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 04:33 AM
So you're criticizing us for including Arrested Development because it was never a big hit, but you don't mind The Wire being on here? I'm willing to bet more people will still talk about Arrested Development in 5 years than they will The Wire - especially if the AD movie actually happens.
To answer another question I've seen asked, I put no sort of rule in place about a show having to had actually started in the decade. That's why Daily Show and South Park made my list - they started in the last '90s, but really found their strengths during the last decade, hence their inclusion.
I can't speak for any of the other writers, but the reason The Sopranos didn't make my list was that I felt like it dipped in quality after an amazing first three seasons. It never became a "bad show," per se, but the later years just weren't as involving, and it certainly didn't have the same consistent quality as something like The Wire. Ditto for Six Feet Under, which I love, but had a couple awkward tangents in the middle of its run.
Posted By: TrevorSnyder (Registered) on January 22, 2010 at 10:22 AM
My Name is Earl. How can you not have a show about a list not on your lists??
Posted By: Earl Hickey (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 10:30 AM
No Metalocalypse on this list means epic failure...and that this list is not metal.
Posted By: Nathan Explosion (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 10:39 AM
If you didn't have South Park as an honorable mention AT LEAST, then you should probably be locked in a port-o-potty and lit on fire.
Posted By: JCKarnage (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 10:59 AM
venture brothers
Posted By: brock lobster (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 11:00 AM
5. Battlestar Galactica
4. The Office (US)
3. The Office (UK)
2. The Sopranos
1. Arrested Development
I absolutely LOVE Firefly but I can't justify placing it when it only had 14 episodes.
Posted By: neverAcquiesce (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 11:39 AM
Lost is crap.
It's cast is crap, it's leading character has all the charisma of a brick.
Why was everyone on the plane a supermodel(except Hurley)?
The first season was commendable storytelling but from then on they blew every big plot advancement, and now it's just twists that go nowhere for the sake of it.
Curb Your Enthusiasm
The Sopranos
The Wire
South Park
Rescue Me(damn if it isn't getting repetitive though)
Posted By: Propagandhi (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 11:42 AM
W/out the Sopranos this list a failure of epic proportions.
So what if the show debut in 99, the majority of its run was in the '00's. The Sopranos are responsible for gritty award winning cable tv shows. Look how many emmys went to cable tv shows before the Sopranos, and then after.
Posted By: C.Drama (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 11:46 AM
Ebert Jr (Guest)//
sorry bro but YOU are the epitome of what is wrong with the human race, not the rest of us.
just because you don't like the same thing as other oyu declare that this must mean that everybody else sucks, knows nothing and are stupid.
has it ever struck your mind that perhaps YOU are the stupid one?
Posted By: hmm (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 12:20 PM
Well, since there's no 24, we know this list is crap
Posted By: guest (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 12:53 PM
I love how you guys can spout off on and on about how this list or that list is crap, like telling somebody else their opinion sucks will somehow validate YOUR opinion.
I can see why everything here was chosen in one way or another... I actually am surprised that Madcap was the only one to mention Farscape. A damn good show, cancelled not because it wasn't popular but because of network politics.
There is a lot of backlash against Arrested Development on this site, the kind of backlash I could see It's Always Sunny getting in a couple of years.
Personally I thought the show was tremendous, and am glad to see everyone (except Lucille) doing so well.
Adam Baldwin makes the leap between two great shows this last decade, appearing on both Chuck and Firefly... he was also the first guy in Independence Day who got to kill an alien (in the Area 51 Scene)
Posted By: M:-X (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 01:46 PM
This was a difficult one to do, and I think everyone can agree, it's impossible not to leave off a show you love.
Concerning the 1999 rule: Just like the Academy has rules about when a movie is released, so did I. That was self imposed and you need to have law. For without law, what are we? No better than the guy who passes traffic on the shoulder or the guy who cuts in front of everyone in line when a new cashier opens up her register.
Posted By: stevethegoose (Registered) on January 22, 2010 at 02:49 PM
I can't speak for any of the other writers, but the reason The Sopranos didn't make my list was that I felt like it dipped in quality after an amazing first three seasons. It never became a "bad show," per se, but the later years just weren't as involving, and it certainly didn't have the same consistent quality as something like The Wire. Ditto for Six Feet Under, which I love, but had a couple awkward tangents in the middle of its run.
Posted By: TrevorSnyder (Registered) on January 22, 2010 at 10:22 AM
Your logic is flawed because the 2nd season of The Wire sucked ass.
Posted By: Big Fat Fag (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 03:20 PM
5. CSI
4. Lost
3. 24
2. Family Guy
1. The Wire
If you want to go with most overrated shows on these lists (or comments so far).
5. Sopranos
4. Curb Your Enthusiasm
3. Any Josh Wheedon show
2. Battlestar Galactica
1. Arrested Development/Sunny in Philly
Posted By: SpankyHamm (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 03:32 PM
Concerning the 1999 rule: Just like the Academy has rules about when a movie is released, so did I. That was self imposed and you need to have law. For without law, what are we? No better than the guy who passes traffic on the shoulder or the guy who cuts in front of everyone in line when a new cashier opens up her register.
Posted By: stevethegoose (Registered) on January 22, 2010 at 02:49 PM
The inherent problem is that this criteria would then classify The Sopranos as a show of the 90s when that's hardly the case. I understand your reasoning (and even if you chose not to include in the top five at all) but it's still flawed.
Posted By: neverAcquiesce (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 04:04 PM
5. South Park
4. Dexter
3. The Wire
2. Arrested Development
1. L O S T
Posted By: Guest#1094 (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 04:47 PM
No BSG = Fail
Posted By: Bill Adama (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 05:44 PM
Well here's mine, and I should say I haven't seen The Wire and only one season in on Sopranos.
Honorable Mention: 30 Rock, Lost, Firefly (I loved it but it was too short)
5. The Venture Bros.
4. Chappelle's Show
3. South Park
2. Battlestar Galactica
1. Arrested Development
Posted By: Deathpool (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 05:48 PM
So you're criticizing us for including Arrested Development because it was never a big hit, but you don't mind The Wire being on here? I'm willing to bet more people will still talk about Arrested Development in 5 years than they will The Wire - especially if the AD movie actually happens.
To answer another question I've seen asked, I put no sort of rule in place about a show having to had actually started in the decade. That's why Daily Show and South Park made my list - they started in the last '90s, but really found their strengths during the last decade, hence their inclusion.
I can't speak for any of the other writers, but the reason The Sopranos didn't make my list was that I felt like it dipped in quality after an amazing first three seasons. It never became a "bad show," per se, but the later years just weren't as involving, and it certainly didn't have the same consistent quality as something like The Wire. Ditto for Six Feet Under, which I love, but had a couple awkward tangents in the middle of its run.
Posted By: TrevorSnyder (Registered) on January 22, 2010 at 10:22 AM
Yeah an AD movie will make things alright for a 3 year show. All I hear people talk about is firefly since they got a movie made. There is a reason the show flopped, its just no good. You want humor that is different from the normal sitcom look to 30 Rock, great writing and great cast. Oh I forgot you would lose cred with all the other I want to be hip so I will look outside the box group. To say Sopranos dropped off in the 2000s is like saying Da Vinci dropped off and was no longer a good painter after painting the Mona Lisa.
Once again Worst List Ever.
Posted By: Junk (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 06:19 PM
5.the wire
4.the sheild
3.sopronos
2.lost
1.earl
Posted By: ek187 (Guest) on January 22, 2010 at 06:25 PM
Six Feet Under is far and away the best show of the decade. The fact that these writers include some of the inane stuff they did while excluding SFU just proves how juvenile most of their tastes run.
Posted By: Guest#2884 (Guest) on January 23, 2010 at 12:17 AM
1. LOST
2. How I Met Your Mother
3. The Office
4. It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia
5. Dexter
Honorable Mentions : Entourage, Friday Night Lights, Arrested Development, The Shield, and The O.C.
Posted By: Hoags Enit (Guest) on January 23, 2010 at 02:19 AM
No love for british shows?
* Black Books - hilarious, easily just as funny as AD
* IT Crowd - see above
Posted By: Olympic Hero (Guest) on January 23, 2010 at 10:36 AM
You know what? Arrested Development is no longer on the air for a reason. That is, people didn't watch it. I don't care how many people on here loved it, people didn't watch it and that says volumes about a show. Granted, just because TONS of people watch a show doesn't mean much either (see American Idol), but when people don't watch the show, it probably doesn't belong on a Best Of list. That said, if Firefly had actually gotten past the first year of production, it may have been the best show ever.....alas
My list
5)Scrubs (only 5 because the last 2 years have sucked - but years 1-7 were fantastic)
4)South Park - Broke so many barriers and continues to do so.
3)CSI - probably the most watched show of the '00's not named American Idol
2) 30 Rock - consistantly funny, consistantly well written, consistantly consistant
1) Family Guy - Best animated show ever, Best TV show of the '00's, Best Show of all Time (IMHO)
Posted By: IFB (Guest) on January 23, 2010 at 11:16 AM
To all the people hating on Arrested Development and other shows for being canceled, like that means anything. Quality stuff gets shot down all the time. Look at the landscape of movies, most of the ones that win the major awards are smaller movies that aren't nowhere near as popular as your Transformers and National Treasures or whatever. Hell, the Shawshank Redemption, a movie most people agree is fantastic, didn't even crack 30 million.
I think AD's big problem is that it's much funnier if you watch from the first episode onward rather than jumping in at a random point, which is much vastly different from 99% of the comedy's out there. That's great for those who stick with it but makes it far more difficult for new people to get into it.
Posted By: Deathpool (Guest) on January 23, 2010 at 03:48 PM
1. Boston Legal - Five seasons of what basically boils down to the perfect mockery of modern American television.
2. Mythbusters - The epitomy of Edutainment
3. The Colbert Report - The Daily Show times 1000
4. CSI: NY - THE best forensic drama
5. [Scrubs] - 17 time changes between two networks, and yet it managed to survive, that has to count for something
Posted By: Cactus (Guest) on January 24, 2010 at 02:17 PM
Arrested Development was an ok show but has no place on any top five list and its inclusion in this article is a joke.
Posted By: Guest#0677 (Guest) on January 24, 2010 at 04:01 PM
No mention of HOUSE? For shame, its not always good as it used to be, but for a formulaic, "disease of the week" show, it has created an awesome main character in Greg House, the sarcastic and cranky, yet brilliant and dedicated doctor. His tormenting everyone approach, made me fall in love with the show.
Plus I'm one of the few here who never watched LOST, THE SHIELD,CSI,THE WIRE,etc.
But I agree with SOUTH PARK,ANGEL, FAMILY GUY . SOPRANOS should be on the list as well.
I also religiously watch BONES (Boreanaz is great on this show too).
Posted By: FRS (Guest) on January 24, 2010 at 08:29 PM
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