The Hush-Hush News Report 12.21.11: The Hobbit Trailer Has Arrived Straight From Middle-Earth
Posted by Jeremy Wilson on 12.21.2011
News and thoughts on criticism of Bane's voice in The Dark Knight Rises' trailer, the new poster and trailer for The Hobbit, the upcoming trailer for Prometheus, the problems surrounding Thor 2 and more!
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The Hobbit Trailer Is HERE!
Maybe you will have seen the new trailer for The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey by the time you read this (it is scheduled to be broadcast/streamed via satellite (I'm sure John Cena has a joke about The Rock somewhere in there) at 10pm Tuesday night and again Wednesday at 9am. You can also see it in front of The Adventures of Tintin: Secret of the Unicorn and will also more than likely be able to check it out any number of places across the internet RIGHT HERE AT 411 sometime soon. Until then, check out the newest still image from the picture, showing Martin Freeman as Bilbo Baggins and count down the hours, minutes, seconds until we get our first peak at our return trip to Middle-Earth.
**LATE-BREAKING: New TRAILER and POSTER released for The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. And yes, it is EPIC stuff. We'll go more in-depth next week. What a week for trailers. 2012 is shaping up to be unbelievable.
Trailer For The Dark Knight Rises Arrives: Can You Hear Me Now?
Earlier this week, the newest trailer for "The Dark Knight Rises" arrived on the heels of the 6-minute prologue attached to the IMAX screenings for "Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol". While generally well received, a bit of controversy has blossomed concerning the clarity of Bane's voice in both the prologue and trailer. It seems enough criticism has been levied that executives inside Warner Borthers want Christopher Nolan to change the sound mix before the film releases this summer. The problem? Nolan has creative control and only plans to "change the sound slightly, not rework it entirely."
According to The Hollywood Reporter, "Sources close to the movie say Warner Bros. is very aware of the sound issue. One source working on the film says he is "scared to death" about "the Bane problem." However, one high-ranking studio executive at WB stated: "Chris wants the audience to catch up and participate rather than push everything at them. He doesn't dumb things down. You've got to pedal faster to keep up."
"The Dark Knight Rises" opens on July 20th, 2012.
Oh boy..we have CONTROVERSY. Yes, the trailer is all kinds of awesome. And yes, Bane is nearly incomprehensible. When I first saw the prologue, I actually thought Bane's voice wasn't that bad and the complaints was being overblown a bit. I mean, a lot of that is taking place in a plane. That still might be true to a certain extent (especially since the film hasn't even finished post-production yet, which would clean things up a bit). But after watching that trailer a couple of times, it is really hard even for Batman and Nolan fanboys/apologists to try and spin it any other way. They absolutely have to clean the sound mix on Bane's voice up. I don't know if "tweaking" will do the trick or not, but I think it would be a mistake for Nolan to be stubborn about this. I mean "When Gotham is ashes you have my permission to die," is a GREAT line which is essentially buried. If it's a creative decision on his part, then it's really not worth it. If he is just being prickly about some of the criticism coming out, then okay, let's all let this die down and see where we're at when the next trailer comes out.
I do know one thing though; Warner Brothers no matter the extent of Nolan's creative control isn't going to release The Dark Knight Rises with a frustratingly inaudible villain. Nolan is done after this picture; WB isn't. This is their cash cow and they aren't going to let anything especially something so seemingly easy to fix diminish it. So while I don't think this is the biggest deal in the world, I do think it's something to watch in the coming months to see who relents: Nolan or WB.
Prometheus, You Big Tease!
Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" has been given not one, but TWO teasers for it's upcoming trailer (they are above). And guess what? They're pretty f'ing cool. They get your heart pumping just enough to get you excited for Thursday when the official teaser trailer arrives. In them, Scott talks a bit about returning to science fiction after having revolutionized the genre (with Alien and Blade Runner. The actual trailer is scheduled to arrive sometime on Thursday, while Prometheus is to arrive in theaters on June 8th, 2012.
Who else is stoked to see the trailer and the film? Were these teasers effective?
Thor 2 Turmoil Upsetting Star
Last week, Hollywood was surprised to learn that Patty Jenkins ("Monster") was essentially fired from Marvel's "Thor 2" over what was initially reported as a mutually agreed-upon split over "creative differences." Now we're learning a bit more about why the director was "future endeavored" and why it may have an effect on one of the film's stars.
Not only has Jenkins' firing shocked Hollywood, but Natalie Portman has taken the news especially hard. According to sources, it was Portman who urged Marvel to hire Jenkins, who would have been the first female director of a superhero film. Portman has been contemplating whether to continue acting for the time being, wanting to spend more time with her newborn son. While Portman is contractually obligated to appear in the project, sources said she was reinvigorated due to Jenkins' involvement. Not helping things was the fact Portman found out through the media of Jenkins' dismissal.
Meanwhile, the industry is hearing wildly different sides as to why exactly Jenkins was let go. According to one source (who is said to have firsthand knowledge of the production), Marvel "became concerned that Jenkins was not moving decisively enough and feared the film might miss its November 2013 release date." This is disputed by Jenkins' camp who stated that Jenkins' was "so explicit about her vision for the film that she didn't expect to be hired in the first place" and that "Marvel executives might have been won over initially by Portman's enthusiasm for Jenkins but then, when they started to interview writers for the rewrite . . . may have decided they really weren't comfortable." The fact is that the film is still in the earliest stages of pre-production and doesn't even have a completed, finished script to work from.
"Thor 2" is tentatively scheduled to be released November 15th, 2013.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. This isn't good. Marvel has essentially gone through two directors, is asking for what seems like a substantial rewrite of the script and has already pushed the release date back. None of these things are problems individually; in fact, they are fairly standard in Hollywood these days. The problem is that one just gets a bad feeling coming off this production and Marvel has somewhat of a history in it's less-than-stellar dealings with Hollywood players. I think Portman has the right to be slightly miffed about how things have gone down, but she will be a professional and do her job. The bigger problem is whether Marvel is tying filmmakers' hands in regards to what they actually want out of Thor 2. As is pointed out in the article, Marvel has most of the leverage here; actors and directors know these movies essentially sell themselves and have extensive mythologies that can't really be tampered with to avoid upsetting their inherent fanbase. We will be learning more about what exactly happened with Jenkins and Marvel, but we may never really know the full story. For now, the best that can be said is that Thor 2 is getting off to a rocky start.
David Fincher Talks Dragon Tattoo Sequels
Davd Fincher recently spoke about the possibility of shooting the next two sequels in Stieg Larsson's "Millenium Trilogy" and why it would be prudent to shoot them back-to-back.
"Yes, the second two books are very much one story and it doesn't seem prudent to me to go to Sweden for a year. Come back for a year. Put out the second one. Go to Sweden for a year. Come back for a year. I don't think [star] Rooney [Mara] wants to be doing this four years from now. So I think that would be crazy especially given the sense that it's really one story that's kind of bifurcated in the middle."
Screenwriter Steve Zallian also expressed that he has heard the both sequels would shoot back-to-back and that he would be able to get both screenplays done in time. However, he hasn't started working on the script for "The Girl Who Played With Fire" which means the film most likely wouldn't start shooting until late 2012. That would mean that the earliest the film could most likely be released is mid-2013, with the final film in the trilogy hitting theaters in either late 2013 or the middle of 2014. "The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo" comes out nationwide today.
This shouldn't shock anybody. You don't bring David Fincher on-board to the most successful adult literary event of the decade (not named Harry Potter) without figuring sequels into the mix. I think the only question was whether or not Fincher would direct the films himself, or if he would remain on in some sort of creative consulting role. It sounds unless I'm mistaken that Fincher is prepared to direct the sequels himself, although we're still fairly early in the game and the director has a large slate of possible projects he is attached to at the moment. It makes a lot of sense to shoot the next two sequels back-to-back, especially since the series has an established fanbase and with Fincher and Craig on-board, the risk for failure is diminshed.
Spike Lee's Oldboy Remake Taking Shape
It appears Spike Lee has found co-stars for Josh Brolin in his upcoming remake of "Oldboy". Mia Wasikowska and Clive Owen have been offered parts in the film. Wasikowska ("Alice in Wonderland") has been offered the female lead of Marie, which was originally offered to Rooney Mara ("The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo"), while Owen is reportedly stepping into the shoes of the film's villain, a role originally offered to Colin Firth a month or two ago.
Producer Roy Lee believes the fans' concerns with the remake will be unfounded when they get the chance to see Mark Protosevich's script and Lee's direction played out in this newer version. "Mark Protosevich has come up with new elements to it that will throw off the audience who have seen the original movie because there are new characters and new situations that present themselves in a way that changes the story but eventually go in the same direction," he said. "The ending will be something that the audiences will all be especially the fans of the original will be very happy with. In fact, some may consider it to be a bit darker."
The synopsis for the film reads: "'Oldboy' will follow Brolin as a man who is kidnapped on his daughter's birthday and held in solitary confinement for 15 years. When he is released, he seeks revenge from his captors. Inspired by director Chan-wook Park's 2003 South Korean movie of the same name, Mark Protosevich (I Am Legend) wrote the script for the movie, all based on the mid 1990s Japanese manga series written by Garon Tsuchiya and illustrated by Nobuaki Minegishi."
I like Mara and Firth, but for some reason I think I prefer Wasikowska and Owen for this. I'm not sure Oldboy needs to be remade anyway and I'm concerned with Spike Lee's involvement. There is no doubt he's made some great films, but I've always felt he's a bit overrated and his last full-length feature, 2008's dreadful Miracle at St. Anna, may have forced him to take on Oldboy as a "safe" choice to reinvigorate his career after such a notable flop.
Star Trek 2 Won't Include Any Original TV Cast Members
In news that is bound to break the hearts of a few Trekkies, sources are saying that unlike 2009's "Star Trek", director J.J. Abrams does not plan on using any cast member from the original "Star Trek" television series in his upcoming sequel. One of the highlights of the first film was Leonard Nimoy's cameo/supporting role reprising his role as Spock. While some believed perhaps William Shatner's Captain Kirk character could make an appearance in the sequel (he felt insulted not to have been included in the previous film), it now appears Abrams is sticking with his new younger cast. Abrams is shooting for a mid-Januray start date on "Star Trek 2" and the sequel is tentatively scheduled to release in 3D on May 17th, 2013.
This isn't all that surprising, to be perfectly honest. Nimoy's appearance in the first film was a nice addition and nod to the franchise's history. However, it was by way of a very convenient time-travel plot point and it would be difficult to pull anything like that off again. It also wouldn't seem all that natural trying to shoehorn in every former Star Trek great, so Shatner is just going to have to nurse his wounds on this one. I think this cast is good enough to stand on its own and this sequel doesn't need to force itself to pay homage to the past at every turn. Tell your own stories is a solid way and you'll be fine. Sorry if that hurts any Trekkie out there who needs to see Shatner or any former Star Trek great at every turn, but it really is time to move on. However, there remains no word on what Abrams' lens flare-quota is for the sequel. One of the Vegas casinos needs to get on that. Whatever the number, BET THE OVER.
Trailer Face-Off:
This week we have three big new releases The Adventures of Tintin: Secret of the Unicorn, The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo and We Bought A Zoo.
Are you planning on seeing any or all of these? Which looks better? Let me know in the comments.
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This Week In Awards
I list these with the understanding that we all realize The Golden Globes are NOT, in actuality, prestigious or symbolic of the best in cinema. They are the result of Hollywood's PR machine and the boondoggle of a relatively small, anonymous group of individuals who have been known to be bribed. NBC broadcast ban, Pia Zadora, The Tourist. Look it up. They receive the attention they do because of two fortunate factors. They are strategically presented and have a nationally broadcast show. They also throw one hell of a party. With that being said, here are the nominations. I may go more in-depth on them at a later date, when I have more time.
The Golden Globe Nominations
MOTION PICTURE CATEGORIES
BEST MOTION PICTURE, DRAMA
The Descendants
The Help
Hugo
The Ides of March
Moneyball
War Horse
BEST MOTION PICTURE, MUSICAL OR COMEDY
50/50
The Artist
Bridesmaids
Midnight in Paris
My Week with Marilyn
BEST DIRECTOR
Woody Allen, Midnight In Paris
George Clooney, The Ides of March
Michel Hazanavicius, The Artist
Alexander Payne, The Descendants
Martin Scorsese, Hugo
BEST ACTOR, DRAMA
George Clooney, The Descendants
Leonardo DiCaprio, J Edgar
Michael Fassbender, Shame
Ryan Gosling, The Ides of March
Brad Pitt, Moneyball
BEST ACTRESS, DRAMA
Glenn Close, Albert Nobbs
Viola Davis, The Help
Rooney Mara, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
Meryl Streep, The Iron Lady
Tilda Swinton, We Need to Talk About Kevin
BEST ACTOR, COMEDY OR MUSICAL
Jean Dujardin, The Artist
Brendan Gleeson, The Guard
Joseph Gordon Levitt, 50/50
Ryan Gosling, Crazy Stupid Love
Owen Wilson, Midnight in Paris
BEST ACTRESS, COMEDY OR MUSICAL
Jodie Foster, Carnage
Charlize Theron, Young Adult
Kristen Wiig, Bridesmaids
Michelle Williams, My Week With Marilyn
Kate Winslet, Carnage
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Kenneth Branagh, My Week with Marilyn
Albert Brooks,Drive
Jonah Hill, Moneyball
Viggo Mortensen, A Dangerous Method
Christopher Plummer, Beginners
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Berenice Bejo, The Artist
Jessica Chastain , The Help
Janet McTeer, Albert Nobbs
Octavia Spencer, The Help
Shailene Woodley, The Descendants
BEST SCREENPLAY
Midnight in Paris, Woody Allen
The Ides of March, George Clooney, Grant Heslov, Beau Willimon
The Artist, Michel Hazanavicius
The Descendants, Alexander Payne, Nat Faxon and Jim Rash
Moneyball, Steven Zaillian and Aaron Sorkin
BEST ANIMATED FEATURE
The Adventures of Tintin
Arthur Christmas
Cars 2
Puss in Boots
Rango
BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM
The Flowers of War
In The Land of Blood and Honey
The Kid WIth The Bike
A Separation
The Skin I Live In
BEST ORIGINAL SCORE
The Artist, Ludovic Bource
W.E., Abel Korzeniowski
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross
Hugo, Howard Shore
War Horse, John Williams
BEST ORIGINAL SONG
"Lay Your Head Down," Albert Nobbs
?"Hello Hello," Gnomeo and Juliet
?"The Living Proof," The Help
?"The Keeper," Machine Gun Preacher
?"Masterpiece," W.E.
TELEVISION CATEGORIES
BEST TELEVISION SERIES, DRAMA
American Horror Story
Boardwalk Empire
Boss Starz
Game of Thrones
Homeland
BEST TELEVISION SERIES, COMEDY
Enlightened
Episodes
Glee
Modern Family
New Girl
BEST TV MOVIE OR MINISERIES
Cinema Verite
Downton Abbey
The Hour
Mildred Pierce
Too Big to Fail
BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTOR IN A TELEVISION SERIES, DRAMA
Claire Danes, Homeland
Mireille Enos, The Killing
Julianna Margulies, The Good Wife
Madeleine Stowe, Revenge
Callie Thorne, Necessary Roughness
BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTOR IN A TELEVISION SERIES, DRAMA
Steve Buscemi, Boardwalk Empire
Bryan Cranston, Breaking Bad
Kelsey Grammer, Boss
Jeremy Irons, The Borgias
Damian Lewis, Homeland
BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTOR IN A TELEVISION SERIES, COMEDY OR MUSICAL
Alec Baldwin, 30 Rock
David Duchovny, Californication
Johnny Galecki, The Big Bang Theory
Thomas Jane, Hung
Matt LeBlanc, Episodes
BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTRESS IN A TELEVISION SERIES, COMEDY OR MUSICAL
Laura Dern, Enlightened
Zooey Deschanel, New Girl
Tina Fey, 30 Rock
Laura Linney, The Big C
Amy Poehler, Parks and Recreation
BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTOR IN A MINI-SERIES OR MOTION PICTURE MADE FOR TELEVISION
Hugh Bonneville, Downton Abbey
Idris Elba, Luther
William Hurt, Too Big to Fail
Bill Nighy, Page Eight
Dominic West, The Hour
BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTRESS IN A MINI-SERIES OR MOTION PICTURE MADE FOR TELEVISION
Romola Garai, The Hour
Diane Lane, Cinema Verite
Elizabeth McGovern, Downtown Abbey
Emily Watson, Appropriate Adult
Kate Winslet, Mildred Pierce
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR IN A TV SERIES, MINI-SERIES OR MADE-FOR-TV MOVIE
Peter Dinklage, Game of Thrones
Paul Giamatti, Too Big To Fail
Guy Pearce, Mildred Pierce
Tim Robbins, Cinema Verite
Eric Stonestreet, Modern Family
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS IN A TV SERIES, MINI-SERIES OR MADE-FOR-TV MOVIE
Jessica Lange, American Horror Story
Kelly Macdonald, Boardwalk Empire
Maggie Smith, Downton Abbey
Sofia Vergara, Modern Family
Evan Rachel Wood, Mildred Pierce
This week, the 411 grammar police are out in FULL FORCE. Glad to know some of you actually read the words and don't just look at pictures. Although AJ might be concerned to hear that. ANYWAY...
From Thomas (Guest):
I have to be honest: I think I'd have liked the last Indiana Jones movie better if Hayden Christianson would have replaced Shia Lebeouf. Of course, I would have rather Danny DeVito been in the movie than LeBeouf. Anyway, I really hated that film, and I thought the alien stuff was the equivalent of a film series jumping the shark. After crystal alien skulls, I'm afriad of what would happen next. I'm prepared for the worst: Indiana Jones and the Lost Leprechaun's Pot O' Wee Gold or Indiana Jones and the Cheese Factory on the Moon.
We'll agree to disagree on that one. I don't really mind Shia all that much. He's certainly not my favorite actor working today, but like Michael Cera and a few others, he hasn't gotten under my skin like he seems to do for many. Hayden Christensen is another matter. I can't stand his work and I actually think his casting in the Star Wars films was the single biggest mistake Lucas made (and that is saying something). Together, they turned Darth Vader from one of the greatest and most enigmatic villains of all time to a whiny teenager who throws temper tantrums. Plus, did you see him in Jumper? Terrible actor...and I think Hollywood actually might agree with that verdict; what would have been a career-defining role that would propel some actors into the stratosphere has resulted in essentially nothing since for the guy.
From Charles (Guest):
As a 3 Stooges fan, I really wish this movie wasn't being made. While the actors look like they did better at the impressions in the preview than I thought they would, it just looks really awful. It doesn't help that it has troll doll Snooki, even if it is just a cameo.
It's been over a decade since the Farrelly's have done anything that was really good (Me, Myself and Irene) and this doesn't look to reverse that trend in my opinion.
It looks terrible. I can't say I'm a huge Stooges fan, but I also don't actively dislike them. That trailer and film may do just that though. Plus, what's the point of revealing Snooki's cameo? Do they think Snooki has a huge built-in fanbase that will flock to see this? Or and here's the scarier thought was that actually one of the funnier bits in the entire movie? *Shudder*
From middlehead (Guest):
You're wrong about the Rock of Ages trailer. The best part is NASH in the background as one of Cruise's bodyguards.
Ooh, nice pickup! Totally missed that one. Still not best part for me (Nash hasn't been the best part of anything since he was Oz), but still pretty cool. Middlehead gets a cookie!
From The Phenom (Guest):
"Tired of screwing around with his "Star Trek" franchise, George Lucas..."
Do you have some kind of deathwish involving fanboys?
I guess I do. You all knew what I meant...but still, my bad.
From DeimosMasque (Guest):
"Tired of screwing around with his "Star Trek" franchise"
Nitpick... I admit... but you meant Star Wars.
As a person who ones all the old Three Stooges movies please tell me you're not letting the new version get away with: "has Kate Upton. So there's that."
You have three guys with no idea how to do physical comedy and they are playing the masters of physical comedy?
Honestly I'd be happier if three people who looked NOTHING like the original actors played them but knew the art of slap stick.
Trust me: if you knew me, you'd know I couldn't care less that Kate Upton was in it. I'm the guy who would have rather watched a 2x4 star opposite Shia in Dark of the Moon than Rosie Huntington-Whiteley. Beautiful...but can't act. However, the 411 demographic does seem to care, so I put that in more as a joke, rather than a legitimate reason to see the movie. As for the Stooges themselves, I'm just not sure you can find three performers able to take these roles and do them justice, especially in an era so far removed from that. I don't think this movie is going to work...whatever cast they got.
From The Great Capt. Smooth (Guest):
Denzel is gonna play Dave Sullivan?
Sort of. I believe he's technically going to be playing Evad.
From Gullible Reader (Guest):
Tired of screwing around with his "Star Trek" franchise, George Lucas appears to be getting ready to head back for some more "Indiana Jones."
Seeing as I trust the 411 Mania writing staff to be 100% correct all the time I have to believe you when you say George Lucas created Star Trek even though I am sure it is Star Wars.
As you should. So it is said. SO IT SHALL BE. We here at 411 have that kind of power. Believe it.
Plus, you just know you'd be compelled to see Romulan Ewoks.
From WarBound (Guest):
The Three Stooges looks way funnier than I thought. I was afraid they would mess with the product but it looks like the same thing I loved as a kid even the voices. It's going to be fun, even if the plot is horrible. It's still the stooges.
We'll see. I'm willing to go the other way on that prediction.
From Guest#2818 (Guest):
"Tired of screwing around with his "Star Trek" franchise, George Lucas appears to be getting ready to head back for some more "Indiana Jones". "
Someone is about to start a jihad up in here.
I've already gotten a cease-and-desist letter from LucasArts and a rather menacing death threat from a Star Trek fan. It was in Klingon, so I couldn't really understand it, but I got the gist of it. Klingons are always threatening people, so it's really a natural language to use for death threats.
From Aprince66 (Guest):
I grew up on Indiana Jones. I dressed as Indy for Halloween. I had the shirts, toys, lunch boxes, books, hat, whip, soundtrack/book combo packs... you name it.
If Lucas manages to make a 5th movie, and its worse than the 4th and Phantom Menace combined, I will still be first in line.
Good to hear. I love Indy as well, so I hope if they really do make a 5th film, that it's good. Just no aliens this time. Like I said last week, I didn't hate the last film, but Indy and aliens shouldn't really mix. Unless they're Nazi aliens!
From #Guest3606 (Guest):
I hate to be like this, I am not even remotely racist, but having Denzel as the lead in the Equalizer is a big mistake. It needs to be an older white guy, not a still young-looking black guy. That's just my opinion.
I don't necessarily think like that. I'm not going to say you're racist, but as far as fictional properties go, I really don't think it matters. Sometimes changing the race of the character or casting a a performer of a different race in a role can be done for creative reasons. That's harder to do obviously in non-fiction and in biopics, but if you rebooting The Equalizer why not just go get the guy you want, regardless of race. The Equalizer of the '80s isn't going to be the same guy they bring out of mothballs for this time period. Obviously, the most comparable casting choice like this in recent times was when Marvel cast Idris Elba in Thor. That was WAY more controversial for some people since he was portraying a Norse God, and...you know...there are very few black people in Northern Europe. Same goes for casting Katee Sackoff as Starbuck in Battlestar Galactica The entire fanbase cried out in horror...until they saw how freaking badass and awesome the woman was in the role. Think outside the box, my friend. If it sucks, then you can say they cast the wrong actor and should have done such and such.
From The Big Fat F*g (Guest):
I'll admit the Stooges trailer made me laugh. Like watching some old friends return. I won't see it in the theaters but I'd watch it on cable.
They're not my old friends. Unless I'm reviewing this for 411, I most likely won't be seeing this...at all. Although, I am the sucker who reviewed Bucky Larson for the site, so maybe I'll be in for some more punishment by the time the release date rolls around.
From wjd01 (Guest):
Rock of Ages looked good.... right up to the point when mentioned Tom Cruise stars. Think I'll pass.
If they make a genuinely funny, over-the-top movie that manages to satirize the era well enough, it might work. If Cruise tones it down a bit and doesn't do his "I'm a Big Movie Star" act, it might work. As of now, I'm leaning towards being on the pessimistic side. Need to see more.
From guest 1842 (Guest):
Brad Pitt is my favorite actor, to me ever single film he has been in has been entertaining. From being a toon cop in Cool World to a redneck killer in Kalifornia, I've never been disappointed. I hope at some point in time he gets the best actor award because he doesn't make unbearable movies. I hope this is the year but after watching The Decendents I feel Clooney will get it.
I actually saw The Decendents recently and wasn't emotionally invested in it at all. I don't even know if I can recommend it to anybody. I'm not a total badass that can't care but I just wasn't feeling it.
Hearing what Nolan said I'm assured DKR will not let me down. I may have higher hopes than many others because I have a tattoo of Ledgers Joker. I'm a big fan of Hardy(Bronson kicked my ass), so I'm not afraid he will do great at the role, just please let me be able to hear him clearly.
I hope it's a good likeness of Ledger's Joker. That's...something. You're probably not the only one, however, I'm terrified to ink up my body like that. Hope you don't end up regretting that...in the next 50 years.
Anyway, as for The Descendants I really, really like the film. Alexander Payne is just a fabulous filmmaker and I found myself invested in the film and found it to be affecting. However, my two minor problems with the film were that I wasn't crazy about the sub-plot involving Clooney's family and their land deal. It just didn't work for me, especially in contrast to the amazing stuff involving his wife and children. Second, it lacked the bite that Election and even Sideways had; that's not a terrible thing, but it just means I prefer those two films of his to this one. I did think Clooney gave arguably the performance of his career. For once, he couldn't just play suave, sophisticated Clooney ala Cary Grant; he had to play an imperfect middle-aged man in the throes of familial Armageddon, and I thought he did a hell of a job. It's a very complex and deep role, and most likely, will net him his second Oscar.
I like Brad Pitt as well, but I just don't feel his performance in Moneyball is of the same caliber. It was an easier role to play and felt a lot like Pitt playing himself, tinged with a bit of a Billy Beane impersonation. Don't get me wrong, he was very good and extremely entertaining. I just think Clooney was better.
The Hush-Hush Racetrack Oscar Odds
The following are the racetrack odds for this years Academy Awards courtesy of Gold Derby. The odds are the result of voting and analysis by "Experts". I've taken out (for this week at least) votes from the site's editors and users. In addition to the odds is the % chance to win.
BEST PICTURE The Artist 6/5; 45% (last week: 9/5; 36%) The Descendants 5/1; 17% (last week: 4/1; 21%) War Horse 12/1; 8% (last week: 9/1; 10%) The Help 12/1; 8% (last week: 20/1; 5%) Hugo 14/1; 7% (last week: 20/1; 5%) Midnight in Paris 25/1; 4% (last week: 20/1; 5%) Moneyball 25/1; 4% (last week: 16/1; 6%) Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close 33/1; 3% (last week: 10/1; 9%) The Tree of Life 50/1; 2% (last week: 50/1; 2%) The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo 100/1; 1% (last week: 50/1; 2%)
The Artist has become the heavy favorite as of this moment for Best Picture. Small but steady declines by The Descendants and War Horse have helped solidify the possibility of a black-and-white silent film winning the biggest prize at the Academy Awards. The steep fall of Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close as it is seen by more people has also paved the way for increased odds to win and solid locks on nominations for The Help and Hugo. I still believe it's a two-horse race between the top 2, however, there is no doubt The Artist is the film to beat.
BEST ACTOR
George Clooney (The Descendants) 21/20; 49% (last week: 10/9; 47%)
Brad Pitt (Moneyball) 7/2; 22% (last week: 9/2; 18%)
Jean Dujardin (The Artist) 4/1; 21% (last week: 3/1; 25%)
Michael Fassbender (Shame) 25/1; 4% (last week: same)
Leonardo DiCaprio (J. Edgar) 33/1; 3% (last week: 50/1; 2%)
Gary Oldman (Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy) 50/1; 2% (last week: same)
George Clooney was at 66% two weeks ago, but has seemingly stablized as the frontrunner. Brad Pitt has moved into second position behind his friend and has become a strong possible dark horse if Clooney falls or the Academy can't pull the trigger on Dujardin. Fassbender seemingly has locked himself up a nomination but it remains to be seen if the Academy can pull the trigger for a performance in an NC-17 film that has divided critics. DiCaprio is out as a serious contender to win (although I still believe he'll receive a nomination). Gary Oldman is getting very strong notices in Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy (as is the movie itself) and has never been nominated for an Oscar. Just sayin'.
BEST ACTRESS
Viola Davis (The Help) 8/5; 39% (last week: 9/5; 36%)
Meryl Streep (The Iron Lady) 19/10; 34% (last week: 2/1; 33%)
Michele Williams (My Weekend with Marilyn) 11/2; 16% (last week: 7/2; 22%)
Glenn Close (Albert Nobbs) 14/1; 7% (last week: 25/1; 4%)
Tilda Swinton (We Need to Talk About Kevin) 33/1; 3% (last week: 50/1; 2%)
Rooney Mara (The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo) 100/1: 1% (last week: same)
Kirsten Dunst (Melancholia) 100/1; 1% (last week: 50/1; 2%)
Elizabeth Olsen (Martha Marcy May Marlene) 100/1; 1% (last week: same)
Charlize Theron (Young Adult) 100/1; 1% (last week: same)
Viola Davis and Meryl Streep remain close co-favorites and the category appears to be headed down to the wire. The Help will be well represented at this year's Oscars; it remains to be seen how many other nominations The Iron Lady will get to help bloster Streep's chances. Michele Williams has become the clear third choice and Close appears a lock for a nomiation. That leaves a fight for the fifth nomiation between previous Oscar winner Tilda Swinton and a host of Hollywood's young acting elite. I still think Dunst or Mara pips her for a nod, but Swinton is highly respected in the industry and is getting a lot of acclaim for her performance in the controversial We Need to Talk About Kevin.
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Christopher Plummer (Beginners) 8/15; 66% (last week: 8/13; 61%)
Albert Brooks (Drive) 11/2; 15% (last week: 9/2; 18%)
Kenneth Branagh (My Week with Marilyn) 14/1; 7% (last week: 33/1; 3%)
Max von Sydow (Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close) 25/1; 4% (last week: 9/1; 10%)
Jonah Hill (Moneyball) 33/1; 3% (last week: 100/1; 1%)
Nick Nolte (Warrior) 50/1; 2% (last week: 100/1; 1%)
Alan Rickman (Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2) 100/1; 1% (last week: same)
Patton Oswalt (Young Adult) 100/1; 1% (last week: same)
Ben Kingsley (Hugo) 100/1; 1% (last week: same)
Plummer, Brooks and Branagh. Those are about the only three I'd wager money on getting Oscar nominations for Best Supporting Actor this year. After that, it's a bit of a crapshoot on which actor and film you may prefer. The big riser of the past couple weeks has been Jonah Hill for Moneyball, a fine performance in what I consider an overrated movie. It is certainly not a better performance than those given by Patton Oswalt, Ben Kingsley and Alan Rickman, all of whom are given lower odds. The fact is that the strength of Moneyball has lasted and will help a possible Hill nomination. The drag of Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close continues as Max von Sydow continues to slip.
The power of The Help apparently knows no bounds. Remember all those wins and pushing for Jessica Chastain in The Tree of Life? Yeah, me neither. It didn't take long for the odds of her two main supporting performances to switch around. Chastain's turn in The Help has now leapfrogged her turn in The Tree of Life and stands as the fourth favorite in this week's odds. That is apparently the power of the Golden Globes, which opted for that performance. Oh well.
Funny Video Picture of the Week:
I don't usually write about gossip-site junk in this column (industry gossip is much more interesting), but THIS is just too good to pass up. I hope you all have a very merry Kardashian Khristmas. Yep...TWO K's! (And did I mention...it's in 3D!)
Trailer of the Week: God of War 4 Wrath of the Titans
That's all for this week. Let me know what you think in the comments section. For now, this is Jeremy Wilson, off the record, on the QT...
I don't think Marvel's problem is that they don't understand Hollywood or are expecting too much. I think Marvel's problem is that that have (on average) 10-15 monthly titles that are (on average) 22 pages long scripts, that get edited and sent back for changes EVERY MONTH!
And with Hollywood are being told to expect the same results in 5-6 months.
Posted By: DeimosMasque (Guest) on December 21, 2011 at 12:39 AM
Bane's voice is absolutely perfect. It's psychotic, muffled, distorted, and erratic. Bane!
Posted By: Guest#1489 (Guest) on December 21, 2011 at 12:58 AM
Man from reading your Oscars odds, I'm assuming that being a 30 year old heterosexual male is not the target demograhic of the Oscars. Only movies mentioned in there between all the categories I'd watch are Moneyball and Drive....and even those only on dvd.
Posted By: Guest#4101 (Guest) on December 21, 2011 at 01:22 AM
Personally i don't have a problem understanding Bane, I think people are just bitching for bitching's sake.
Posted By: pranstar (Guest) on December 21, 2011 at 06:02 AM
I'm inclined to trust Marvel with Thor2 - they seem to have a pretty good idea where they're going and how they want things to pull together. If they were semi-forced into bringing in a new director that they weren't very happy with, who then goes off and doesn't seem to be handling it then they are probably right to replace her.
Regardless of whether she's the first female director to do a superhero movie (which is a pretty forced first) if she's not right for the role then she's not right.
Posted By: Guest#9936 (Guest) on December 21, 2011 at 08:52 AM
i honestly dont see a problem with the bane voice.. its supposed to be muffled.. it also gives off a awesome mystery of the character.. i had no problem hearing him say the ," you have my permission to die" speech, the plane talk was alittle hard but comon. they are in a fucking plane with it split in half... and even before that when he was talking to the officer, i heard him fine also.
ppl just gotta unclog ur ears! and enjoy the movie!
Posted By: wylun (Guest) on December 21, 2011 at 09:41 AM
I'm a big fan of Oldboy(actually the entire Revenge trilogy, and Chan-wook Parks body of work overall), its one of those movies I tell everybody the need to see. So I don't really feel that it needs to be remade for American audiences, I mean it was made in 2003, and even though its Korean its not like it has bad production. Korea makes badass thrillers, generally better than the American ones I've seen in recent years, so I just don't think they need that American spin. Also with them saying the twist will be darker I'm not sure what they can really do, it will end up with them trying to get too cute and edgy.
DeimosMasque: Marvel should expect a lot from the movies, since they have more riding on the movies than just one entry into the IMDB. If its a great comic film it can attract new readers, or even old readers who left. And lets be honest if your a nerd(for anything) and like something it tends to lead you purchase more merchandise of your favorite character or series. And Marvel has plenty of merchandise to sell. If they make one bad movie or something they are not happy with they fear it can sink an entire franchise, espcially when dealing with a character like Thor while a face of Marvel isn't over like Spider-Man or Wolverine.
Posted By: Midz (Guest) on December 21, 2011 at 10:10 AM
Love Oldboy, and didn't see the ending coming. With Spike Lee doing the remake, I really hopes he doesnt F the ending up by throwing his usually racial agenda in there.
Posted By: APrince66 (Guest) on December 21, 2011 at 11:11 AM
Glad to see you got the Dave Sullivan joke!
Hobbit looks terrific! I can't wait to check it out with my dad. We would go see the LOTR movies when they came out. He's in his 70's and I don't know how much longer he'll be around. Should be fun. Digging the poster as well.
Posted By: The Great Capt. Smooth (Guest) on December 21, 2011 at 01:44 PM
since you asked, I hope no one sees Tintin because I don't like that kind of animation. It doesn't get the mouths right and it's discerning to me. Even in Tron, the the young Jeff Bridges creation has a goofy mouth. I'm not likely to see the zoo movie. Live near Zanesville, OH where some guy had a zoo, and let all his animals go before killing himself and almost all of them were shot and killed by law enforcement. Pretty sad to see piles of dead lions. A guy with a zoo doesn't seem like such a bright idea. So it's the dragon tattoo, which i'll probably get on netflix sometime.
Posted By: big guy (Guest) on December 21, 2011 at 11:42 PM
I don't get the defenses of Bane's voice. I could sit at my house opening night, rather than go to the theatre, and understand about as much as what Bane says, based on watching the trailer (I have not watched the prologue video). Trailers are supposed to make you want to see a movie, and I don't want to see a movie where I can only half-understand an important character.
I want to see TinTin. While I've never read any of the books, I was a fan of the cartoon show.
And that Kardashian picture just looks like a bunch of boobs under boobs.
Posted By: G-Walla (Guest) on December 22, 2011 at 03:15 AM
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