The Hush-Hush News Report 05.30.12: Blowing The Whole Thing Up
Posted by Jeremy Wilson on 05.30.2012
News and thoughts on the major new villain being lined up for Thor 2, what Christopher Nolan and Christian Bale have to say about The Dark Knight Rises, plot details from The World's End, more bikini-filled photos from Spring Breakers and more!
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Three columns, Three days. We've reached the third and final day. Monday was The Big Screen Bulletin. Yesterday was the Movies/TV 3 R's . So, without further ado, let's dive into this week's Hush-Hush News Report.
We'd still write them if no one was reading, but to be honest it's better and more worthwhile when people do. Something about a tree falling in a forest. Anyway, on with the news....
Kevin Feige Talks Thor 2 Villain
In an interview with Empire, Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige talked about the success of The Avengers, where we go from here and a "major new villain" for Thor 2.
On their surprise at just how well The Avengers did:"I was just hoping it would beat the opening weekend of Iron Man 2, which was the biggest opening weekend for any Marvel Studios movie. We did 80 or 90 million above that. As the numbers started coming in on Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday night, they just kept getting bigger and bigger, into areas I would never in a million years have believed."
On where they go from here:"The Avengers was not the finale for us. It was a giant, giant marker, but it was never the finale. We are already well into the plan for the next phase of our little cinematic universe."
On where they're going with Thor 2:"We're going to see the other side of Asgard. It's not all polished and golden in this film. And the events of Avengers will have affected Thor for sure. His relationship with Loki will continue to evolve, and the biggest part is Natalie and Thor returning with Jane Foster."
On whether Thanos (teased in the post-credit scene) is in Thor 2:"No, future, future. But there will be a major new villain. A major, major new antagonist…"
It's not surprising Thanos won't be a part of Thor 2 (in any way other than a similar post-credit scene), but this of course raises speculation as to who WILL be the "major new villain" in Thor 2. Most of the internet rumors have centered on either one or both of The Executioner and The Enchantress. However, with the recent confirmed casting of Mads Mikkelsen, it would seem like another option is possible. While I'm not an expert of the mythology and history of the Thor comics, possibilities that sound reasonable include Mephisto – which could help further any possible Thanos/Infinity Gauntlet storyline for The Avengers 2 – or Malekith the Accursed, which could keep Loki involved and further use The Casket of Ancient Winters, which was introduced in the first film. And as always, there remain folks clamoring for the introduction of Beta Ray Bill in the upcoming film. Any and all seem like interesting, entertaining possibilities.
Who do you want to be the principal villain in Thor 2?
All Dark Knight Rises, All The Time
There's been plenty of things coming out for the upcoming mega-blockbuster The Dark Knight Rises. Some of it, particularly from the film's huge cover story in Empire includes:
Christopher Nolan was initially hesitant at including Catwoman in the film.
"I was nervous about how she would fit into our world," said Nolan. "But Jonah was very much convinced that there would be a great way to do it and eventually turned me around. Once I got my head around the idea of looking at that character through the prism of our films, saying, 'Who could that person be in real-life?' we figured it out. She's a bit of a con-woman, something of a grifter. A hard-edged kind of criminal."
His brother, Jonathan "Jonah" Nolan, added:
"Chris often comes from a position of, 'Why should we do this?' You know, presumed guilty. But I said, 'What we're endeavoring to do here is tell a complete take on the Batman mythos'. And a complete take of the Batman mythos without the character for me was sacrilegious. You've gotta have her, because she has a delicious greyness to her that helps define who Batman is. She keeps wavering on this line of, 'Is she a good guy or a bad guy?' Well, she's kind of neither. And that's why, to me, that relationship and that character only enhances the universe - and the Batman character." He also said that "Anne Hathaway threatens to steal the show."
In addition to the Nolan brothers' feelings on including Catwoman, they discussed their feelings on the trilogy of films and how – perhaps – it should end. WARNING: POSSIBLE SPOILERS
"What drew me to Batman in the first place was Bruce Wayne's story, and that he's a real character whose story begins in childhood. He's not a fully formed character like James Bond, so what we're doing is following the journey of this guy from a child who goes through this horrible experience of becoming this extraordinary character. That, for me, became a three-part story. And obviously the third part becomes the ending of the guy's story."
Jonah followed up by saying that "It's the right way to end it - to blow the whole thing up!"
On top of that, writer David S. Goyer stated:
"The final scene of The Dark Knight Rises is exactly [the] scene we talked about [when Christopher Nolan and I started the trilogy with Batman Begins]. It remained completely unchanged. We both knew in our hearts that we were onto something special. I have to tell you, having finally seen everything strung together a little while ago and seeing that scene, I got a complete lump in my throat."
When it was suggested that the ending many believe is possible might be hugely anti-commercial, Goyer responded: "Yup! That's why it's ****ing exciting!"
Further complicating all this rampant speculation is star Christian Bale's response to the possibility of another Batman movie for the men in the future.
"My understanding is that this is the last one. I think it's appropriate, I think it's going out at the right time. But...if Chris came to me with a script and said, 'You know what? There is another story' then I would love the challenge of making a fourth one work."
Well...let the speculation run wild on this. Will he or won't he, that's the question. I can definitely see both sides and I have tended to waver back and forth on it over the past couple months. I would honestly say I'm leaning towards him killing Bruce Wayne off...but Bale's comments definitely seem like they would put the kibosh on that possibility. Yes, there's an 8-year window in this movie, but I don't think that would work well in Nolan's Batman universe as a means for a fourth film. Also, if the Nolans and Goyer are planning on having Bruce Wayne die, that would take an EXTRAORDINARY amount of trust and faith on the part of Warner Bros. Batman won't die, that's for sure, but does Nolan feel it necessary to complete his character's arc and bring it full-circle? Like I said before, I lean yes, but who really knows. It feels like that's the most plausible, natural ending for all of this, but are we ready for movies' biggest superhero – and a character who has had 7 feature films in the past 25 years – to die? I don't know.
Edgar Wright & Simon Pegg Talk The World's End
Not so long ago, Edgar Wright, Simon Pegg and Nick Frost finally confirmed that their film The World's End – the third in their "Three Flavours Cornetto Trilogy" along with Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz – would finally become a reality. Now, Wright and Pegg have talked a bit more about it and expanded on what appears to be their own version of an "alien invasion movie."
The film's initial cryptic synopsis was: 20 years after attempting an epic pub crawl, five childhood friends reunite when one of them becomes hell bent on trying the drinking marathon again. They are convinced to stage an encore by mate Gary King, a 40-year old man trapped at the cigarette end of his teens, who drags his reluctant pals to their home town and once again attempts to reach the fabled pub, The World's End. As they attempt to reconcile the past and present, they realize the real struggle is for the future, not just theirs but humankind's. Reaching The World's End is the least of their worries.
While Shaun of the Dead was the pair's homage to the horror genre and Hot Fuzz the action movie, The World's End is expected to be their tribute to the sci-fi disaster movie. In the interview, Pegg confirms that the pub crawl includes twelve pubs with The World's End being the final one. Wright followed up by saying, "This is as much about where you grew up as the people you grew up with…" He added: "It's also very silly. I would say it's darker, more personal and more silly."
Later, Wright better defined what to expect by saying: "Hard to say…It's a sci-fi comedy. Social science-fiction. Look it up on Wikipedia and then bone up on John Christopher and John Wyndham."
"Social science fiction is a term used to describe a subgenre of science fiction concerned less with technology and space opera and more with sociological speculation about human society. In other words, it "absorbs and discusses anthropology", and speculates about human behavior and interactions."
Classic works mentioned in the sub-genre include George Orwell's 1984, Aldous Huxley's Brave New World and H.G. Wells' The Time Machine. However, by specifically mentioning John Christopher and John Wyndham, Empire believes the two authors link at a very specific place: the alien invasion, specifically the books The Tripods and The Day of the Triffids.
Sounds good to me. I have total faith in these guys. The first two were modern classics and I have no doubt this one will be weird, funny and awesome. Wright, Pegg and Frost are expected to start shooting sometime this Fall for 2013 release date.
What do you think of what we know about The World's End? Will it match what the trio did with Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz?
More Stills From Les Misérables
I'm looking forward to Les Misérables for a number of reasons – great cast, classic book, legendary musical. But I'm also looking to see what Tom Hooper can do to follow up on his Oscar-winning The King's Speech. Nevermind whether it deserved to win Best Picture or Best Director. That's a debate for another time; plus, I've just now stopped yelling about it. He's made some enjoyable, if rather light, films other before that, including The Damned United and TV miniseries like Elizabeth I and John Adams. So he's got the whole period piece costume drama down. The question is can he deliver something truly powerful, something with a little meat on the bone. I don't know and that's just one reason I'm intrigued by him being tapped for this version of Les Misérables. Like Tim Burton with Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street, this seems to be a good fit of director and material. And from what we've seen so far (a very rough cut of the teaser was leaked; the official teaser comes out later today), they've spared no expense and are doing everything in their power to pull it off.
Check out some of the new stills that have been released from the film, which is still in production in France. They feature stars Hugh Jackman, Russell Crowe, and Anne Hathaway, as well as Amanda Seyfried as Cosette, Eddie Redmayne as Marius, and stage vet Samantha Barks as Éponine. It is scheduled for a December 14 release in the United States and expect Oscar buzz to get bigger the closer we get to the end of the year. Synopsis further below.
Set against the backdrop of 19th-century France, Les Misérables tells an enthralling story of broken dreams and unrequited love, passion, sacrifice and redemption–a timeless testament to the survival of the human spirit. Jackman plays ex-prisoner Jean Valjean, hunted for decades by the ruthless policeman Javert (Crowe) after he breaks parole. When Valjean agrees to care for factory worker Fantine's (Hathaway) young daughter, Cosette, their lives change forever.
Yep...More Spring Breakers Photos
In what is rapidly becoming one of our most anticipated films and favorite stories to cover here at 411mania.com, even more photos have dropped from Spring Breakers. You know, that movie starring Vanessa Hudgens and Selena Gomez which is basically just an excuse to have them in bikinis for 90 minutes. I believe we have yet to see one photo from this movie which doesn't include a young lady in a bikini or James Franco looking awesomely ridiculous in a Vanilla Ice-meets-K-Fed kind of way. I can't wait.
The movie, as if you care, stars Vanessa Hudgens, Selena Gomez, Ashley Benson and Rachel Korine as four college girls who rob a fast food joint in order to pay for their spring break trip. After getting busted, James Franco – a drug dealer – bails them out and convinces them to kill his nemesis. The film will come out sometime in 2013 (likely around Spring Break time, one would imagine).
The initial reviews out of Sundance for Stephen Frears' Lay the Favorite were uniformly terrible. Which is kind of weird since there's a lot of good, talent people involved with it. No one seemed to come out unscathed – particularly Rebecca Hall, the lovely actress who has turned in some great performances in films like Woody Allen's Vicky Christina Barcelona and Ben Affleck's The Town. Frears – best known for directing High Fidelity and The Queen – also got raked over the coals by critics. And after seeing the first trailer arrive for the film, it's not hard to see why. For all the good trailers out there, plus complaints that trailers give away too much (*cough* Prometheus *cough*), you'd excuse someone if they came away from watching the trailer for Lay the Favorite not having much of a clue what was going on. Plus, for a "comedy" there's nary a laugh to be gotten out of it.
And oh yeah, Hall apparently uses one of the worst American accents we've seen in a mainstream film in quite awhile. The film heads to UK theaters this summer with an American release not yet announced. Synopsis below.
Beth Raymer (Rebecca Hall) is a beautiful girl with a big heart who leaves a Florida strip club to become a Las Vegas cocktail waitress. In walks Dink (Bruce Willis), a professional sports better who offers her a job placing wagers all over town to gain an advantage over the casinos. But then his gorgeous-but-frigid wife, Tulip (Catherine Zeta-Jones), gets jealous. Faced with no other choice but to fire Beth, Dink's luck runs out when she heads to New York to work for a smarmy bookie, but ends up wrong side of the law. Stephen Frears directs "Lay the Favorite" written by D.V. DeVincentis, which hits UK theaters on June 22nd, with no US release set yet.
The Apocalypse Is Nigh
Well, it took long enough to start, but we've finally come to end days. That's the only explanation for this:
Pauly Shore and Andy Dick want to make a sequel to In The Army Now.
No, this isn't April Fool's. That was two months ago. No, this is something much, much better. During a recent chat on Andy Dick's "talk show" on something called FilmOn.TV, Dick had his former costar Pauly Shore on to chat. For some reason, there were bikini-clad girls in a space that looks like some candy shop/boutique in Beverly Hills. Since they don't have a ton to talk about in the present, they started reminiscing about old times. The good old days when they used to be big movie stars...or something.
"I've always said we should do In The Army Again," said Dick. "We should rescue Katy Perry[sic] from a USO show gone bad or something."
"We just need a script and someone to back the project and I'm in," Shore added.
"I'll back it if both of you star in it," tossed in FilmOn.TV CEO Alki David.
If that weren't enough this brilliant idea was soon followed up by an official press release...on Memorial Day weekend, no less.
Beverly Hills (MMD Newswire) May 23, 2012 -- (www.FilmOn.com) - Yesterday, over looking Cannon Drive in the heart of Beverly Hills, Pauly Shore was a guest on Andy Dick Live, a weekly live internet TV show filmed at FilmOn.TV Studios. Among girls in bikinis and Andy Dicks [sic] usual group of crazies, Andy and Pauly discussed their past films including their huge box office success and fan favorite, In The Army Now.
"I've always said we should do In The Army Again," said Andy Dick. "We should rescue Katy Perry [sic] from a USO show gone bad or something."
Pauly Shore loved the idea. "We just need a script and someone to back the project and I'm in."
Billionaire and FilmOn.TV CEO Alki David jumped in, "I'll back it if both of you star in it." Right there streaming live, film history was made. Andy Dick says a treatment is already written and they will be writing the script as soon as possible.
My favorite part is "their huge box office success and fan favorite, In The Army Now. Sometimes, I truly love Hollywood.
Last week, Men in Black III finally knocked The Avengers from the top spot at the box office making over $70 million over the 4-day holiday. This week we'll see if the major release of the week – Snow White and The Huntsman – can return the favor and knock MIB3 from the top of the podium. The Kristen Stewart/Chris Hemsworth fantasy action flick isn't alone in debuting though. Joining it this week are Battlefield America, Piranha 3DD and For Greater Glory.
What are you planning on seeing this weekend
ON THE POSSIBILITY OF THE ROCK STARRING IN LOBO
From Imadethefirstjump (Guest):
A live-action Lobo movie both excites and scares me at the same time. Excites because it's fucking Lobo! One of the most badass, bloodiest comics of all time. Scares me because I just don't see it being adapted faithfully and if the Rock is in it, I don't think it will be rated R. I could very well be wrong. Either way I'm down for a badass Lobo flick.
And yes thanks to everyone who answered the question for me, much appreciated.
From Guest#7524 (Guest):
^^This. I was never big into Lobo, but I thought its something that could make a pretty kick ass movie. However, I like the Rock and all, but I don't see this movie being what it should with him as Lobo.
After having thought about it for the last week, I still think The Rock is a decent choice. I think because of The Rock's general oeuvre is littered with PG, kiddie-oriented or PG-13/soft-R action flick, people tend to think any Lobo movie with him in the lead would be neutered somehow. I don't know that I disagree with that, but at this point we honestly don't know anything about this other than a rumor featuring him. I can't say I totally disagree with you, but I still think The Rock has enough talent and charism that he could pull something like this off. He really, really, really needs good material though, which hasn't always been the case in the past for him.
From Capt Oats (Guest):
Jason Mamoa as Lobo aka Khal Drago
From Big Will (Guest):
I honestly could see Gerard Butler as Lobo he got ripped for 300 and has a bad ass quality i think he could pull it off...IMO
I like the Jason Momoa suggestion! Khal Drago would live again and kick even more ass. I didn't hate the updated Conan the Barbarian, but I don't think that's going to help him land another tough guy action lead either.
The suggestion of Gerard Butler? Not so much. I'm not a fan; plus, he's turning 43 this year. That's not all that old in movie years, but there are plethora of young up-and-coming male actors who I would prefer seeing in the role. Yeah, no Butler.
From Aprince 66 (Guest):
I could totally buy into Rock as Lobo.
And thanks for the Diablo III rant. It gives me more reason to delay upgrading my graphic card and picking it up.
Yeah, I think a lot of people are conflicted. It's Diablo...it's fun and addictive and still pretty awesome. But it's flawed and Blizzard's DRM is a hassle. I literally just got kicked off the servers right before answering this since they're releasing the 1.02 patch. I don't mind that, but again, it'd be nice to be able to play offline while that occurs. I think they really need to bring it for the inevitable Diablo IV and not 10 years from now, especially with Torchlight I and II coming up from behind.
From Guest#8666 (Guest):
Jeffery Dean Morgan is the only person I want to see play Lobo.
He's 46! Which only means if you are trying to get a Lobo-inspired series started or include him in a wider-DC film universe, you're not really giving yourself an actor who could run with the role for more than a few years. I love Jeffrey Dean Morgan (more than Butler) but his time might have passed for this kind of role/franchise.
From Guest#5810 (Guest):
was watching Warrior recently and saw how much muscle mass hardy had packed on and while still not enough for bane i can see him as lobo easy and would be a bigger name to attach to it
Anything is possible, but I'd be really surprised if he played two different characters in the same general universe. I'm not saying TDKR and any Lobo movie would come close to being similar or in the same movie, but it'd still be kinda weird. It would sort of be like if they had Chris Evans portray Johnny Storm and Steve Rogers...
...wait a minute.
From The Great Capt. Smooth (Guest):
I doubt it would happen, but I'd really love to see an Anchorman flick centered around the O.J. trial.
Anchoman 3 right there boys and girls. Would lead to all kinds of wrong (the good kind) and bring the crew into the '90's. I'll actually be very interested in seeing how well Anchoman 2 does at the box office and if it's enough for maybe a third one (the first film was a decent, if not overwhelming success, but didn't really make its bones really until DVD).
From Guest#0877 (Guest):
"yeah okay, but you know who wasn't sleeping? Folks who live in Australia and New Zealand. Guess when the servers were down for them? 6pm-2am. That's an entire night for folks who got off work thinking they were going home to relax and play some Diablo III...lost. Imagine the American reaction if that were to occur...again."
Well that's okay, they'd have probably finished the game and returned it in that time anyway
I'm guessing you're A) not a Diablo fan, or B) not a PC gamer. To each their own.
From Guest#8929 (Guest):
They put "rise" in all the batman posters, DESPITE the fact that Deshi Basara means "HE RISES", not "RISE"
NERD ALERT! NERD ALERT!
From Guest#7521 (Guest):
Best for DC to quit jack-assing around with minor characters and get Flash then Wonder Woman to the screen quickly. Then all the pieces are in place for a JLA movie. Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, Flash & Wonder Woman vs. Darkseid FTW.
It's kind of funny; I said the exact same thing almost the minute I came out of watching The Avengers. One of the biggest things that came to my mind after watching Marvel's crown jewel was realizing how truly far behind WB/DC is in regards to their own catalogue. It makes me respect Marvel all the more for the vision and effort they've made in getting this big risk to pay off. Yes, Nolan's Batman movies are classics, but WB (which owns DC Comics) has dropped the ball on their first Superman reboot and in launching Green Lantern. Now, their JLA properties are all over the place and they fall further and further behind with every passing Marvel movie. And they are going to have to wait a couple more years, until Nolan has gone from the franchise and after Snyder's new Superman movie is out. We haven't heard anything about Snyder's film being the start of a larger, broader DC cinematic universe (I don't think it will be either but you never know what the ramifications of the success of The Avengers will be), but if I were WB/DC I would be hiring SOMEBODY who could start putting things into motion (Joss Whedon anyone?), before DC falls truly falls decades behind their Marvel counterparts. Where exactly is the DC cinematic universe going to be once Nolan is gone? (Please don't mention their animated division...it's lovely and all, but it's not the same)
From the Stupids (Guest):
Bane looks so horrible in that ridiculous costume , I have no interest in watching trash like that
Oh look, more Dark Knight Rises trolling. How...original.
From Ser Drake (Guest):
Why in the world is the Great Gatsby in 3D??
I don't know...I don't know.
Actually, this is most likely a result of two things.
1) Hollywood has made the calculation that you – the average moviegoer are willing to watch most films in the theater in 3D and at higher prices than normal 2D ticket prices.
2) Because they sold a bill of goods to theaters, forcing them to upgrade their equipment. Now, they have to keep churning out 3D films in order to not piss off exhibitors who incurred those costs.
Thus, we get The Great Gatsby in 3D. At Christmas. From Baz Luhrmann. At the very least, it will be colorful and vibrant...
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