411 Fact or Fiction Movies/TV 05.02.14: Week 431
Posted by Ben Piper on 05.02.2014
Should Lost be rebooted? Will The Amazing Spider-Man 2 improve on its predecessor? Are we interested in an X-Men TV series? 411's Bryan Kristopowitz and Jason Chamberlain debate these topics and more!
I was saddened to learn of the passing of Oscar nominated actor Bob Hoskins. If the name sounds familiar, then you've probably seen Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Mr. Hoskins retired from acting two years ago due to Parkinson's Disease and succumbed to a case of pneumonia. My thoughts go out to his family, friends, and fans.
And on that melancholy note, it's time for some Fact or Fiction. This week Bryan Kristopowitz and Jason Chamberlain are generously helping us out. Let's see what's what with themů
1. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 will be better than its predecessor.
Bryan Kristopowitz: Fact. While I am worried that The Amazing Spider-Man 2 will suffer the same bloated fate of Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 3, I'm not as worried as I was earlier this year. The trailers give off a different vibe, and I doubt that director Marc Webb will phone it in with this sequel. Plus, Sony is all stoked about doing spin-offs with the Sinister Six and Venom. I doubt Sony would try to gin up excitement for something that will bomb.
Jason Chamberlain:Fact Yes, I think it will be. And I thoroughly enjoyed the new Spidey, so it's not like I think the sequel has nowhere to go but up. Sure it has some flaws, and it was still pretty early to reboot the character entirely (10 years between franchise launches) but that's the Hollywood we're dealing with today, and you gotta take the lemonade with your lemons.
Garfield makes a good Spider-Man, the supporting cast was and continues to be strong, and we're seeing some interesting takes on some classic villains. I seem to be in the minority but I really like the look of the Jamie Foxx Electro. The new Green Goblin may still be lacking an actual goblin mask, but he sure looks better than poor Willem Dafoe did. My one sorta-complaint is the Rhino-mech, but I'm not gonna lose sleep over it.
I do worry this film has bitten off more than it can chew with all these characters, but we'll see soon enough how deftly they're all handled.
And seeing Gwen Stacy's fate played out on the big screen (come on, you know they have to go there) will be suitably epic.
Score: 1 for 1
2. You'd be interested in a Flash Gordon reboot.
Bryan Kristopowitz: Fact. I'm shocked that it's taken this long for someone to want to reboot Flash Gordon. Flash Gordon, as a character, has been around for decades, and with the recent exposure given to the 1980 cult classic movie version via Seth MacFarlane's Ted, what better time to do it? I do wonder, though, if this potential reboot will use the 1980's movie as inspiration or if the character's 1930 and 1940 adventures will be used. Or will the remake just rip off Star Wars, which is a sort of rip off of Flash Gordon? Will the total failure of John Carter at the box office command the direction the Gordon reboot takes?
Jason Chamberlain:Fact Oddly enough, as a child of the 80's, I somehow missed out on Flash Gordon. And I love sci fi and fantasy and all that jazz. For whatever reason, Flash is just one of the movies that never entered my world. I still haven't seen it, to be honest. The only familiarity I have with it is via the delightful references in Ted.
It does seem like a concept that is ripe for rebooting (not that the ripeness of a property is much of a concern for studios in that regard).
Score: 2 for 2
3. A big screen movie based on It's A Small World is a bad idea.
Bryan Kristopowitz: Fiction. It all really depends on what kind of movie Disney wants to make. Will it be a cartoon? Will it be live-action? Will it be some sort of weird hybrid? I mean, sure, the movie would have to overcome the whole "it's based on a ride!" thing, but with the ongoing mega success of the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise it probably wouldn't be that hard to get people to ignore the whole "ride" thing. I'm willing to give the idea a chance.
Jason Chamberlain:Fact Yes. Yes it is. Don't throw 'Pirates' at me, as far as rides to movies go. Pirates is a concept that is easily extrapolated on. You can go places with that. I'll even give you Haunted Mansion, which I never saw, but at least the concept had some promise. What is this movie going to be about? A kid travels places and discovers that it is, indeed, a small world? And probably sings the song? I really don't know where you go with it. Nowhere interesting, I think.
Score: 2 for 3
4.Lost should not be rebooted.
Jason Chamberlain:Fact Do I want to see a reboot of Lost? To paraphrase my favorite acerbic TV doctor, Good God in heaven, there are just so very many ways for me to say this to you: Never. Not in a million years. Absolutely not. No way, Jose. No chance, Lance. Nyet. Negatori. Nuh-uh. And of course, my own personal favorite of all time, man falling off of a cliff. Noooooooooo!
Now, I love Lost. It's one of my favorite TV shows of all time. I followed it religiously, watched every new episode as fast as I could so I wouldn't be spoiled, and loved trying to figure out the mysteries of the show and where everything was going. I played the admittedly mediocre video game to completion (the voice acting was atrocious). I had more favorite characters on that show than any other I'd ever watched, from Jack, Sawyer and Locke to Eko, Desmond, Ben, Sayid, Richard, Faraday, the list goes on; so many compelling characters. And yes, I loved the ending too (and no, they were not dead the whole time. Seriously, I don't know how that wasn't clear to people). And given that it's been four years since the end, it's probably high time I bust out my DVD's and do that long planned marathon of the six seasons.
But do I want to see a reboot? Or even a movie continuation? No. Lost was unique in both concept and execution. How do you reboot something of which mystery and the unknown played so key a part? You shouldn't try. And if you do, you certainly shouldn't try less than half a decade after the series finale of the first one.
Bryan Kristopowitz: Fact. I certainly understand the impulse behind wanting to reboot it. Lost is a modern classic TV show; it's a title that still means something to people, and if it worked the first time why wouldn't it work a second time? But what would be the point of doing it beyond trying to make more money off of the name? The rebooters (I don't know what else to call them) would probably be better off trying to make a new show that's similar to Lost. They would have something new and fresh and they would still be able to say in the advertising "like Lost on steroids!" or something like that. With that strategy everyone wins.
Score: 3 for 4
5. You'd tune in to an X-Men TV series.
Jason Chamberlain:Fact I wouldn't be much of a card carrying comic book nerd if I didn't at least check it out. Comic book related shows always get a chance with me; I loved Smallville for all its flaws, and Arrow is really hitting on all cylinders in this second season. Agents of SHIELD? I'm a fan! Gotham has me very intrigued, and I'll be checking out the new Flash show, even though that's never been one of my favorite characters. Because, comics!
So yes, an X-Men live action show could work, and truthfully that's one comics product that may be more suited to TV than film. That said, I'm not sure how it would work in concert with a continuing X-Men movie franchise. I somehow doubt we'll be getting a whole different X-Team from another universe with its own Wolverine, Storm et al. It's not that I don't think fans could tell the difference. I was always annoyed with Christopher Nolan's rumoured objections to Bruce Wayne turning up on Smallville (or a young Batman show) because it would conflict with his movies. Give us some credit! We can simultaneously enjoy multiple takes on the same characters without our heads exploding. That said, it just seems like an unlikely move.
I think what's more likely would be an X-Men related show, maybe a New Mutants deal or, God help us, a teen high school sorta-drama set at Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters.
Bryan Kristopowitz: Fiction. While I agree with Jason that the X-Men as a property is perfect for a TV show (lots of characters to explore, lots of issues to crib from, etc.) doing it now, with the glut of superhero shows and movies coming out it might be a little too much for the pop culture loving world to handle. I don't think I'd want to watch yet another show that's deeply connected to something else, at least not religiously. I'd want to see more about what the producers want to do before committing to it. New Mutants would be kind of cool.
Score: 3 for 5
6. You're bummed Craig Ferguson is leaving his late night talk show.
Jason Chamberlain:Fact Well my good friend who tapes every one of his shows certainly will be. I've never been a late night TV guy myself; most of my adult life I've held down jobs that get me up fairly early, and I like to sleep a good bit so I'm generally in the sack by the time those shows come on. And if I am up that late, I'm more likely to be playing video games or watching a DVD than checking out the late night show.
That said, I do like Craig Ferguson. I've checked out a few of his specials and Youtube clips and laugh my ass off. His Sean Connery impression is particularly epic. I assume he's got a plan to keep working though, at least on stage, so he'll still be making us laugh
Bryan Kristopowitz: Fact. I think CBS, instead of making the relatively safe choice of hiring Stephen Colbert to replace Letterman, should have taken a chance with Ferguson and given him the 11:35 spot. Give him a year, leave him alone, and see what happens. But that didn't happen, and now he's leaving The Late Late Show so he can make money doing game shows and stand up and whatnot. I guess we'll know soon who will be replacing Ferguson in December. Whomever the network chooses I doubt he or she will be as funny or as interesting as Ferguson.
Final Score: 4 for 6
And there you go. Bryan and Jason agree more often than not. Thanks to them both for lending a hand, and see you all again next week!