The Gilroy 07.23.08: Urgent! Need Help!
Posted by Ben Quick on 07.23.2008
Please Batman My Franchise!
Well, with The Dark Knight destined to be one of the most successful franchise movies ever, it got me to thinking. Batman Begins didn't do so hot at the box office really. At $205 million, obviously it didn't do bad, but not too great for what used to be one of the biggest franchises around. For a point of reference, War of the Worlds and Wedding Crashers came out that same summer in 2005 and made more money. What Batman Begins accomplished, and those other two films failed at, was being really good. After the lackluster(putting it mildly) installments of Batman Forever and Batman and Robin not many people were too excited about another Batman movie. Well, as I said previously, Batman Begins was really awesome and it set up the hype that would deliver what will probably be the biggest movie of the year in The Dark Knight. This wasn't luck or anything. Christopher Nolan took a franchise that was once good and breathed life back into it. All it took was a good movie.
See, if something was once successful, there was a reason for it being so. Nothing can kill a franchise more than a bad movie(though jumping on Oprah's couch doesn't help). Since Batman proved it could be done, some franchises are following its lead. James Bond jumped on the bandwagon by going with that series' most thought out and best movie. Rob Zombie tried to do the same with Michael Myers, but not everything can be successful. The point is, even if the franchise is deader than Sonny Corelone, one good installment can revive it. So, here's a look at some franchises that could use a little of that Batman magic -
The Terminator
Most of you probably know from seeing the new teaser trailer a new trilogy for this franchise is being planned. This post/-Arnold installment takes place in the future where the infamous machines try to terminate(sorry, had to) humanity will be kicked off in Terminator Salvation. So far what I've heard of the upcoming movie sounds both promising and not so promising. Christian Bale has signed on for the movie, and he's just about always good in whatever he does. The problem though is that out of all the directors that could've been picked the producers went with McG. If it were me and I was trying to revive a franchise that wasn't only tired, but that will be missing the star that the franchise was built with, I'd probably go with somebody who didn't direct Charlie's Angels. Still, the terminator image is very strong and the premise is kind of interesting. I may drag myself to go see the movie in 2009 and all along the way I hope I'll be writing a column someday about how excited I am for the sequel. Oh well, this does sound better than the Robocop remake that's in the works.
Jason, Freddy, Chucky... Take Your Pick
Uh, where do you start? The Friday the 13th franchise was never really good, but at one point it was popular. The same could be said of the franchises that produced Freddy and Chucky. Jason and Freddy last showed signs of a heartbeat when they went at it in Freddy vs. Jason. The movie wasn't really that good, but it was successful, especially for a horror movie. Apparently there's a remake in store for Jason, but I've only heard slight chatter about a prequel idea for Freddy. Friday the 13th can easily be improved upon, so I'm up for a new vision of the hockey mask wearing killer. Robert Englund will be just about impossible to replace, so Freddy might do with another installment with some fresh ideas. As for Chucky, talk about a franchise prime for a remake...
Mad Max
I never liked these movies. I felt they were just plain boring. The Road Warrior did have one hell of a chase sequence towards the end, but overall, not a fan. Mel Gibson is getting too old to make a comeback to the role that originally made him famous. Besides, he doesn't seem to into acting anymore. The character of a policeman fighting criminals in a post-apocalyptic world is still a cool idea. The original film had that good idea, but was severally flawed. Now does that sound like a rich environment for a remake? Come on, Gerald Butler needs something to do that doesn't include Hillary Swank. If they could get a good director and a strong script people would go see this. I know I would...
Superman
Yeah, I know this was kind of tried with Superman Returns. The thing is, I don't think that was a total failure. Obviously no one will be dying for the collector's edition anytime soon, but I think people would be open to seeing another Superman movie if it was good. The one suggestion I would have is, that if a sequel is made, they go dark. I'm not talking about Sean Penn dark, but something a little more threatening to Superman than a green rock. Superman has freakish level of fan boys, so a big change up probably wouldn't be welcome. Still, I'd like to see it.
Mission Impossible
Even though the last movie was the best in the franchise, it under performed at the box office. That probably has to due with the fact that a lot of people won't go watch Tom Cruise because they think he's crazy. Most people will probably say that it's best that Tom Cruise let this franchise die. I mean, the movies were never really that good to begin with. Still, I think this may be Tom Cruise's best shot at turning things around for himself, at least somewhat. Another Mission Impossible is the only viable project that could still probably make money even though Tom Cruise is in it. One big problem is that Matt Damon and Daniel Craig are kind of dominating the spy world with movies that have story and character development, rather than just stunts. If Tom Cruise could incorporate the lessens that the Bourne series taught the James Bond franchise into Mission Impossible, maybe people would like the movie and Tom Cruise could start to rebuild his image.
Alien
It's been a rough few years for the creature that bleeds acid. The two AVP movies sucked, but not quite as much as the last time the creature hooked up with Sigourney Weaver in Alien Resurrection. The Alien vs. Predator idea could've been a great way to bring back both characters to the big screen, but the movies were bad. I don't see a remake being a possibility because you'd have to keep the same creature as the alien and that would kill any anticipation for what it really looked like. To me, the best idea would be a whole new story. I still would like to see the aliens take over that outpost that was skipped over in James Cameron's Aliens. There's plenty of ways that you could go with this guy. The alien is such a disturbing image. All you need is a good story and I think people would be happy to flock back to the theaters.
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So what did I miss? Those were just a few ideas of the top of my head. Do you guys have any franchises you'd like to see brought back for more? That's what the comments section is for.
Oh, I promise next week I will write something that never mentions Batman! Hopefully anyway...
Superman, like the Hulk movie, would have been far better if they'd had some action - a real villain for them to face. Both movies nailed the CG, the atmosphere, the characters....but having limited action in a comic movie just doesn't do it.
Posted By: Rod Oracheski (Registered) on July 22, 2008 at 11:31 PM
Wedding Crashers was/is a good movie. Other than that, it's a good column...for me to poop on!
Posted By: Triumph The Insult Comic Dog (Guest) on July 22, 2008 at 11:47 PM
that is a simple one. Spider-man and X-men! Damn if I did not cry when Parker went EMO and started to sing and dance! Plus the lame storyline..
The last X-men film. What the hell do I start with that one
Posted By: Dr. Clutch (Guest) on July 22, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Superman does need to get a little more dark........a little more DARKSEID!
Posted By: Joel Yeomans (Registered) on July 22, 2008 at 11:52 PM
why isn't there a nightmare on elm street prequel??? kuger was a menace before he even started invading dreams. let see that story. I mean he had to be ruthless for the demon gods of sleep to make him their ambassador. this is an original idea. quit remaking and lets see something fresh. PLEASE!
Posted By: Mad Hatter (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 12:15 AM
Yeah, I agree. The problem with Superman and The Incredible Hulk is that HUGE EVENTS don't take the place of HUGE VILLAINS. I swear Superman Returns was all about him dealing with the environment......Lex just sat back and watched. They need BIZARRO or DOOMSDAY. And The Incredible Hulk should take on Gargoyle!
Posted By: dman (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 12:25 AM
i know there is talk of a remake and no one can replace the immortal Bruce Campbell, but what about the Evil Dead series? and how about the Universal Soldier franchise? we need another one of those (of course i'm kidding).
Posted By: fresh2death (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 01:22 AM
Id like to see these movies being remade
Creature from the black lagoon
The Phantom
The Bad Seed (the classic almost constantly on Chiller)
Evil Dead
Poltrigeist
The Lost Boys
Mortal Kombat( think about Trish Stratus as Sonya Blade
Posted By: Guest#6187 (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 01:31 AM
Add to the list, Mortal Kombat
Posted By: Matthew M (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 01:45 AM
5) B.L.O.B. (already in the works)
4) Freddy Krueger prequel
3) Creepshow (get it right this time!)
2) Conan
1) 3rd installment of Bill n' Ted!!
Posted By: Guest#3961 (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 03:35 AM
AVP better than Alien Res? Smoke crack much?
Posted By: wtf (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 09:00 AM
wow i dont agree with alot of stuff you said on this list and now i hate you
Posted By: 411 manias enemy (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 09:22 AM
Great article - I would LOVE to see Superman enjoy some of the same success Batman has.
Captain America... anyone? The 1990 movie sucked but hopefully the new one (in a few years) won't.
Batman was crazy insane and one of the better movies I've seen in years. It has me excited for hopeful sequels and I think there's a few other movies that could use a revamp (not exactly a "remake"). I love most comic book movies, but they seem to be flooding the market a bit.
Planet of the Apes - no prequels, no remakes - just an installment. We already know the back story, give us more!
Gremlins... come on, admit it, you still can't change the channel when it comes on basic cable.
Alien Nation - interesting concept that could be further explored.
Ghostbusters - it would be hard to get this one right though...
Spawn - will probably never see a big studio budget again, sadly.
Teen Wolf/Back to the Future - only if Michael J. Fox is connected
Alice books by Lewis Carrol - These stories are classic and a film version closer to the source material might be on par with the Narnia books.
Anne Rice's vampire books, just to show some Twilight fans how vampires should be.
The Shadow, w/o a Baldwin.
That's all I can think of off the top of my head. Maybe some new Tarzan adventures? I've got nothing.
Posted By: Sucker for Bats (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 09:30 AM
spiderman, if done right would be awesome if carnage was introduced. the same with the xmen and the senntinals
Posted By: nighttrain (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 09:57 AM
"Id like to see these movies being remade
Creature from the black lagoon
The Phantom
The Bad Seed (the classic almost constantly on Chiller)
Evil Dead
Poltrigeist
The Lost Boys
Mortal Kombat( think about Trish Stratus as Sonya Blade"
You, sir, are an idiot.
Posted By: Observer (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 10:22 AM
I liked Superman Returns. But I will agree that he needs something to punch in the next installment. I hope Singer gets a shot to do the sequel, instead of a complete reboot like Millar wants.
Posted By: Toddo (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 10:24 AM
The Alien franchise is dead and buried creatively. They wont do a stand alone Alien without Weaver and thats a bad move as there are some great alien storys out there to adapt. Also as terrifying as the Alien is to see there are already six movies out there where you can see what they look like and do so theres not much that can be done thats fresh.
Superman isnt as big a comic character as people online seem to think. Yeah he has his fanboys but the general public arent into him. He is too goody goody.
Mission Impossible could be good if Cruise takes a back seat and lets it become more about the team. However I'd like to say that I prefer Mission Impossible 3 over Casino Royale which is massively overrated. Daniel Craig is passable but Christian Bale and Clive Owen both passed on the role so he wasnt the first choice. Also after Quentin Tarantino suggested they do a proper adaption of Casino Royale it was touted that it would be a tight thriller without the over the top stuff from the previous bond films. This sounded great to me but the second I saw the free running, the car flipping over and over and over and the bad guy with the bleeding eye I thought they just cant stay away from the cheesy stuff. The Bourne Films urinate on Casino Royale.
Also Mission Impossible 3 made $397,850,012 worldwide wouldnt call that a flop.
Posted By: DaveJuk (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 10:57 AM
What about Cannonball Run?
Posted By: A.J. (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 10:58 AM
The problem with Superman Returns was that Bryan Singer made a movie that looked at Superman from a God Like perspective and it did not make him relatable to the audience. The first two X-men and Spider-Man movies, as well as this years Iron Man all focused on the men behind the masks and superpowers. In the case of the current Batman movies, they focus on the mask of the man behind the superhero. It actually shocks me now how bad the Burton influenced Batman movies really were because it seemed to focus on the goofier, serilized verision of Batman instead exploring the who Batman is and why he does what he does. The first Batman kind of does that( which is why it was considered the better movie) but devolves into Nicholson's comedic performance of the Joker by the end of the movie.
Singer should have gone more the vien of Superman II, in which Superman gives up his powers to seek a normal life with Lois Lane. That film made Superman human and fragile, and allowed him to realize why he could not be human or fragile to protect mankind, he had to be Superman for the greater good. It would have struck a more emotional chord with the audience if those themes were explored a bit more deeply(not just by revealing that Superman fathered a bastard child which was soooo against the character's nature in the comics) instead of the "Superman is a God sent to save us" theme of Returns. A great way to reboot the franchise would be to focus on Clark Kent balancing life and being Superman, much like the Spider-Man films do.
Posted By: GTS (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 10:59 AM
I also believe that Mortal Kombat would be a sweet ass movie if remade. Today it could be further developed and have more work and effort put into it. It could have some potential but it will never top our charts, but I think it would be a fun really fun movie. Never say never, well I did and it's probably true that it will never be a top movie but just stick with the saying...
Posted By: knockout (Registered) on July 23, 2008 at 11:33 AM
There has to be a great modern zombie movie made. I always liked modern zombie movies like dawn of the dead, resident evil, 28 days later, because me and the gang were always thinking "stay alive!", "Run, run!", "No!", and so on. We always liked movies where people had to evade and get away from evil. Well if the kind of understand where I'm coming from I think you would want a new or remake of a zombie movie as much as I would.
Posted By: knockout (Registered) on July 23, 2008 at 11:38 AM
Add Spawn to the list. Great character and storyline but like all comic book movies they're being made for the wrong target audience. I went to see The Dark Knight and there were maybe 10 kids in the whole theater, the rest of us were all in our 20s and 30s. Start making these movies rated R and shoot for the 20s age bracket, were the ones that really go see these movies anyway.
Posted By: Rick (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 12:10 PM
Some things should be left alone.
Posted By: MBD (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Oh good one, Mortal Kombat has so much potential I always thought. The first two were pretty terrible though. With the CGI and effects now, it could be pretty incredible... though you need a good script/acting...
Posted By: Usafsoham (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 12:17 PM
Chucky is beyond saving. Jason could do with some revamping, but they've tried that several times to no avail. It seems every time they try to revamp Jason they forget what made him popular in the first place: creepy guy in the woods cutting up naked coeds.
There are TWO great Nightmare on Elm Street movies: The first, and Wes Craven's New Nightmare. New Nightmare did, in a sense, try to revive the franchise... but it was done in a time when rebooting wasn't really done like it is now.
Superman needs a real villain who can go toe to toe with him: either bring back Zod or introduce Darkseid. The problem with the remake was they just brought Lex in, whereas Batman actually "earned" using the Joker in The Dark Knight by having a decent movie the first time around.
The first AvP was more tolerable than the second. The problem is making a mass audience cheer the Predator.
As for the Terminator... it seems like they are trying to reboot the franchise, but I think they might be making a mistake: including Bale doesn't AUTOMATICALLY equal success.
Posted By: M:-X (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 12:27 PM
The next Batman movie will most likely be a let down...so why not do a Batman Vs. Superman movie. In the eyes of the Gotham Batman is already a bad guy, Superman can come in and hunt him down.
Posted By: Mike (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 12:53 PM
Freddy Krueger's new movie is a remake not a prequel. It will not star Robert Englund either. Friday the 13th is also a remake. I'm pretty sure BOTH already have release dates, check IMDB. kthxbye.
Posted By: Captain Patterson (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 01:17 PM
woah woah woah woah davejuk. did you seriously say that superman wasn't as big in comics as people online like to think. As a comic book fan i would have to say you sir are a jack ass. In the DC universe there isn't a character(not even batman) who comes close to t he amount of fans that superman has. Every major story in the DC universe superman is always the center of it pretty much. man what a bold statement. I would love to kick you in the nuts.
and to the rest of you, no more gremlins remake talk there is no way that it would be as good as the original. and i still hate you ben quick
Posted By: 411 manias enemy (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 01:45 PM
Friday the 13th is getting a remake actually. I mean it's not the "original" storyline of the first one, but it's more so Jason cutting naked bitches up, like what M:-X seemed to have wanted. Think it's coming out in February actually. And you know, reading reports and such, it actually looks promising and fun as hell.
Posted By: Kevin F. (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 02:24 PM
actually batman begins made alot more than wedding crashers. if you add up the total (domestic and international) gross wedding crashers made more than just the domestic gross for batman. add in the international gross for batman to make it a fair comparison and batman kills it by about 100 million. do your homework
Posted By: Adrian (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 03:03 PM
You mentioned Aliens, but left out Predator? I never was much of a fan of the Alien movies, but I loves me some Predator.
Posted By: Wyatt (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 03:43 PM
I want all future Marvel movies to join the new Marvel Universe laid out in Iron Man and the Incredible Hulk. I doubt Wolverine will since it's somewhat of a prequel but hopefully the new Punisher, if they do an X-Men, Spiderman, or Daredevil sequel I would want them all to be in the new universe. Possibly cross Daredevil over into Spiderman and have Kingpin and Spiderman duel it out, I dunno just ideas
Posted By: Wicked (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 04:17 PM
While I liked Cloverfield and actually kinda enjoyed the 1998 film, Godzilla does need to make a comeback somehow.
They need to find a way to revive all of the Universal Monsters. They've done a good job with The Mummy films, now it time for Frankenstein, Dracula, Creature from the Black Lagoon, and Wolfman (although that one is in development).
I think they should release the Directors Cut of Daredevil into theaters.
Posted By: JLAJRC (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 05:12 PM
while most likely there will be money to be made in a new superman ovie/ ranchies he has one major flaw hes TO GOOD abey back in the 40s 50s mabey eary 60s it would work casu everyone liked that purity but nowadays ppl like deep dark demented shit with characters with flaws see batman spiderman to a point the x men films iron man ppl like movies whee ppl fuk up
Posted By: mazzacre (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 07:14 PM
I also foud Wedding Crashers to be a good movie. It had better legs than BB, and a better audience response. While were at it, a new Mortal Kombat could rock, but I want a Metroid movie now.
Posted By: Capt. Smooth (Guest) on July 24, 2008 at 06:28 AM