The Gilroy 07.30.08: The Coolness of Being Lame
Posted by Ben Quick on 07.30.2008
Is that even possible?
Welcome once again to The Gilroy. In just a few days Kevin Costner's new movie called Swing Vote will be in theaters. I will be the first to admit that the movie doesn't look too good and I won't be going to see it. Still, whenever I see Kevin Costner in a movie nowadays I always think back to when he used to do really good movies. When it seemed like his career might be dead after Waterworld and The Postman Costner rebounded by doing movies that didn't cost a lot to make and therefore should turn a profit. When thinking about Kevin Costner one word comes to mind. The guy is kind of lame. He's never really cool in hardly any of his roles. He's mostly a dork, and even if he tries not to be, somehow his lameness always shines through. Yet, in a way his style of being lame is sort of cool. Hey, not everyone can be Steve McQueen.
While he's not the star he once was, Kevin Costner is now a star people don't mind to see in a movie. I had two choices when I decided to write a column about this guy. 1. I could focus on the part of his career where no one could stand him and his movies sucked. 2. I could focus on when he made some really good movies. Well, it felt kind of mean spirited to bash the guy for some reason, so I decided to take a look at some of his better movies.
The Untouchables
"Let's do some good!" That's the line Costner's character of Elliot Ness repeats as he leads a raid on a suspected Al Capone warehouse during prohibition. It sounds like bad writing, but it's more of a detail in character in that it heightens the degree to which Elliot Ness is an idealist. In his quest to bring down Al Capone Costner's character is the ultimate in morals and integrity. As he will find throughout the movie, to bring down the bad guys, you sometimes have to walk on their side of the street. The film itself is quite good. I'd almost say it's a little undervalued. It's Brian De Palma's best film by far and manages to embrace the old James Cagney style of gangster films without being overly cheesy. What this film says to me when thinking about it is that at one point in time Kevin Costner was not only capable of being the lead in a movie, but he excelled at it.
Fandango
If you have seen this movie, please, post so down in the comments section. I have never met anyone who has even heard of this. This was released right before Costner got his breakout role in Silverado, so I guess it makes sense that not many people would go back and watch an obscure movie that starred Kevin Costner pre-stardom. Fandango tells the story of a group of friends that go on a road trip through Texas before they are to go off to Vietnam. I guess that my reasoning for selecting Fandango is less because I think it's a staple in Kevin Costner's career, because it's certainly not. I list this movie for the reason that it's truly a fun movie. There's a little of that Easy Rider weirdness a few times, but Fandango has a very authentic feel to it. This isn't Road Trip or Bachelor Party. Kevin Costner plays the leader of sorts and tries to be the cool one, but what he really seems like is a kid who's afraid of the harsh realities of the war that awaits him. I guess that's what I like so much about this movie. It's both light and heavy at the same time.
Bull Durham
One could arguably say that this is the most famous baseball movie of all time. I tend to waiver on whether this is a great movie or simply an okay one, but there's no doubt that this is a big movie for Kevin Costner. The guy has had movies that have been nominated for and have won multiple Oscars, but if I were to pick one movie that in fifty years when people talk about Kevin Costner that would be mentioned first, I would pick Bull Durham. I don't think this is a great sports movie, but that simply the characters have a great zest that attracts a lot of viewers. The biggest achievement I see when talking about the sports side of this movie is that the actual sports scenes aren't awkward in the way that a lot of movies of the genre tend to be. Kevin Costner plays an aging minor league baseball journeyman who mentors an up and coming pitcher played by Tim Robbins. All the while, both men lust after a minor league baseball groupie played by Susan Sarandon. There's no great story with Bull Durham, but the chemistry and life that all three of the main actors bring is very satisfying. Costner's character is supposed to be a savvy guide for a goof. You get the feeling that Costner's character was once every bit of the goof as that of his current protégé.
No Way Out
You know, maybe I'm a little off base with this whole lame thing. I mean, Kevin Costner was kind of cool in this movie. The guy plays a Russian spy that works for the Pentagon. I think that's pretty cool, well for a movie anyway. I don't know how pivotal this movie was in Costner's career so much, but it's simply one of his better movies. We don't get movies like No Way Out that much anymore. The 1980's and the 1990's really pushed a lot of thrillers out. It seems like most thrillers now are kind of B movie suspense flicks. Maybe it's just that Ashley Judd killed the genre, but I kind of miss them when I think back to the good ones like this movie. I mean, you have a great "race against the clock" story with one of the all time great twists at the end.
Dances with Wolves
This movie's staying power is kind of odd. For a movie that seemed destined to become a classic in the vein of Gone with the Wind or Lawrence of Arabia, it hasn't caught on very well in the years following its Oscar glory. When I think of the early 1990's big Oscar winning films I think Schindler's List and Forrest Gump. Dances with Wolves just never seems to be a movie people recall very often. I guess you could file it along with Shakespeare in Love and The English Patient as Best Picture winners that no one really remembers. I would say just about everything in Dances with Wolves is good. Kevin Costner gives one of the best, if not the best, performances of his career. Plus, the story of how the Native Americans were exploited by the white men is a very tragic part of history. Whenever you think about Kevin Costner's career you have to mention Dances with Wolves. He won his Oscar for it, and so it's a big part of his legacy. Still, I know it's good, but I can't remember the last time I had the urge to watch it.
Thirteen Days
I don't know if you can really call this a Kevin Costner movie. We do look at the Cuban Missile Crisis through his character, but the stars really seem to be Bruce Greenwood and Steven Culp who play John and Robert Kennedy. Kevin Costner plays Kenny O'Donnell, who was an aid to President Kennedy. To look at the entire spectrum of this particular moment in history, from newspaper leaks to complications in military command, you need to have a view into the middle of the Kennedy administration to understand the crisis better than if you were just to see how JFK had handled the situation. We, the audience, spend most of our time watching Costner, but he's just the device through which the story moves. For history buffs this is just a good movie. It's not a film that would appeal to a wide audience, but it's one of my favorite movies that Kevin Costner has had anything to do with. Since this column is about Costner, I had to give it a mention.
A Perfect World
A Perfect World is a pretty underrated movie in both the careers of Kevin Costner and Clint Eastwood. It's such a sweet and tragic movie. You have an escaped prisoner who kidnaps a boy from a family of Jehovah's Witnesses. Costner plays a man who has done a lot wrong in his life, but is still very much a child himself. He takes joy in giving the boy the experiences of youth that his religion wouldn't allow, but also in gaining the love that he obviously never had from his father. All the while Costner's character is being chased by the law, and we as the audience know the ending isn't going to be happy. A Perfect World is a movie that defines that moment when movies themselves are at their absolute best. There's a lot of humor in A Perfect World, but also fear and sadness. Clint Eastwood had a role here, but most importantly, he directed this movie. As it is with most of his best movies, Eastwood makes you really care for a character before he lowers the boom. Dances with Wolves is a great movie, as is The Untouchables, but one could argue that A Perfect World is Kevin Costner's best movie. I don't know if I'm willing make that statement, but as of writing this, I'm thinking it might be true.
Field of Dreams
I wanted to end with what I think is probably Costner at his most likable. In Bull Durham he's kind of a jerk. In The Untouchables you kind of want to smack him, but in Field of Dreams you can't help but like the guy. What has made Kevin Costner a star is an ability, not unlike that of Tom Hanks, to be the everyman. We all know the story of the farmer who hears voices that say to build a baseball field. In Field of Dreams Costner's not a cop or a solider. He's simply a husband, a father and a son. Field of Dreams may represent the best vision of middle America. I live in Missouri, so I see my share of rednecks. This movie doesn't play on the narrow realities of that culture, but more on its values of family and happiness. Field of Dreams is a cheesy and corny movie, but who doesn't like those?
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I may mock the guy, but Kevin Costner has been in some really good movies. I should remember that, as should you.
Well guys, that's it for this week. You all have really been rocking out the comments section the last few weeks. I like that. Then again, I was writing about that one movie I said I wouldn't mention this week. Screw it! I'll take the credit.
Killer column this week. Great stuff. I have seen all of Costner's films (including Fandango, Postman and Waterworld...both of which weren't near as bad as were made out to be), but personally I think that his performance in JFK was probably his best performance of all. Otherwise, I'd also throw an honorable mention to his role in For the Love of the Game...his character was quite lame in that film as well, even though he was an aging baseball star.
Posted By: Dirk (Registered) on July 30, 2008 at 12:39 AM
No love for Robin Hood: Prince Of Thieves?
Posted By: Little John (Guest) on July 30, 2008 at 07:46 PM
Mr. Brooks deserves a mention. It's Kevin Costner's best film in years and a role like nothing he's ever played before. Fantastic film. Even Dane Cook was impressive in it.
Posted By: Chris (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 03:25 AM
Although I enjoyed the much-maligned "Wyatt Earp," I came to it with bias in that I was fascinated by the character and also generally love biopics. Since "Wyatt Earp" was more historically accurate regarding the events of Tombstone than the more entertaining film that bears that town's name, I was just grateful that it was made at all. It certainly is deserving of criticism, but none due to Costner's performance, or that of Dennis Quaid, robbed of a Best Supporting Oscar for his portrayal of Doc Holliday. The film was famously at least 45 minutes too long, but NOT because it covered too much of Earp's interesting life. It just needed a cut here and there throughout, mainly in the parts that dealt with Earp's first wife and the events leading up to the fictional billiard table incident with some imaginary character named Ed Ross.
Simply put, WE is the better film if your focus is the titular character, and "Tombstone" if you want a fast-moving entertaining western, which is also very historically accurate in many ways.
Posted By: sleepypie (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 05:56 AM
Where's JFK?
Oliver Stone pushed him in a way he'd never been before, playing Elliot Ness as a fanatic, doomed by his righteousness.
A good guy who's not afraid of being unpopular.
Posted By: Leon Bannen (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 06:23 AM
Hi,
good article, and yes I have seen Fandango, and liked it too...not just for the Costner character, but mainly because it's a good movie: funny, goliardic,energetic (what about when they try to hook up the car to the train?!), and with a melancholic ending (I always liked the choice his character makes at the end, which I won't spoil for those who haven't seen the movie yet)
Posted By: Chuck79 (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 06:28 AM
Fandango was a fantastic movie. Costner is great, but he's equalled by an fantastic performance by Judd Nelson.
Posted By: Zito (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 07:14 AM
I agree with many of your (and other’s) points on Costner’s movies.
I do wish to add “Open Range” to the list of very good films (directed as well stars in it) he’s done more since his “dark” period. It’s certainly one of the better Westerns of new millennium genre revival movies.
Posted By: Matt G (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 07:18 AM
You rate The Untouchables as Brian De Palma's 'best film by far'? Oh, pullease... Ever heard of Carrie, Scarface or Carlito's Way, much less seen them? The Untouchables is wildly inaccurate, suffers from poor storytelling, average direction, questionable morality, typical auto-pilot Costner, and a disappointing turn from De Niro as Capone.
Posted By: Josh (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 08:18 AM
I've seen Fandango, and the awesome song playing over the end credits fits with the tone of the film perfectly - Blind Faith's 'Can't Find My Way Home'.
Posted By: guest (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 08:53 AM
Dances With Wolves is a massive film; an utter classic, and it will be remembered as such. (For the record, Shakespeare in Love and The English Patient are both excellent, too.)
Tatanka!
Posted By: J. D. (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 09:11 AM
Sure, Costner has done some bad stuff, but he's done some good stuff as well. I'm glad this article is acknowledging his good movies. I'm surprised "JFK" wasn't mentioned. He was also good in another recent movie called "The Upside of Anger". Hell, I might even throw in "Tin Cup" for good measure.
Posted By: ck100 (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 09:14 AM
I'm suprised you didn't mentioned "The Big Chill". Costner is in it REALLY briefly: he plays the dead friend.
Posted By: Anna (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 09:15 AM
Fandango is a gem. Tremendous description as both heavy and light. Perfectly captures the spirit. Costner is great in it, son.
Posted By: Dave G (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 09:55 AM
I love Fandango too. I have yet to encounter anyone who has seen it as well. Glad to see I'm not the only one!
Posted By: lazysamoan (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 10:07 AM
Fandango is one of my favourite films; I even wrote an essay centred around it for my film class at one time. Seriously underrated (as are a lot of Costner's films), it ought to hold the same nostaligic place in film fans hearts as some of John Hughes' 80s movies.
And Dances With Wolves is a wonderful film. John Barry's score is always being played on classical radio stations. Quite right too - it's lovely!
Posted By: Matt (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 10:08 AM
I have to say I really liked "The Upside of Anger". Costner really plays against type, and for the first time in a while he seems relaxed and at ease.
My favorite Costner film is probably "Field of Dreams", my favorite Costner role has to be "Dances with Wolves".
Posted By: Domi (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 10:24 AM
I have to agree - Open Range is by far one of his better films and has garnered a large following. He didn't play the everyman or the hero, but a guy struggling to make it all work...
Posted By: Katy (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 10:58 AM
Hi, I've seen "Fandango"!
Posted By: Ivan (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 11:12 AM
I got to say, I loved him in 3000 Miles to Graceland. The movie as a whole is no more than fun escapism, but he was terrific as a villain, and should play one more often.
Posted By: Stone (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 11:38 AM
Very good article.... I'd like to add for consideration "Tin Cup" and "The Upside of Anger"
Posted By: Patrick (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 12:00 PM
How could you leave Open Range off of this list? One of the best westerns ever made, and he directed it himself.
And yeah, I've seen Fandango- I rented it in college (after my big sister recommended it), and loved it.
Posted By: Jim (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 12:35 PM
+1 who actually saw Fandango and during the 80s at that. I would add to the above list the little known 'Tin Cup' and 'The Upside Of Anger'. Most definitely not forgotten should be 'Open Range', which despite some structural faults is one of the great modern Westerns out there.
Posted By: Chris (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 12:42 PM
A big reason Bull Durham is so beloved is that it is the most realistic baseball movie ever. Anyone who has played the game will recognize the truth in the way the players talk, behave, and actually play the game. Costner was perfect for his role largely because he is a great athlete for an actor. It is clear that Costner can play baseball and play it exceptionally well. It's always sad when a sports movie has actors in it that can't actually play the actual sport (like John Goodman in The Babe). Ron Shelton, being a former minor league baseball player, clearly brought realism to the movie with his script and direction, but Costner's acting and baseball abilities delivered definitive punctuation to every scene.
Posted By: TY (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 12:49 PM
I'm from Italy, and here Fandango is very well known (an important movie production and book publishing company is called Fandango, after the movie), expecially between people that were in their 20's at the time of film's release.It's one of the Easy Riders of our generation.
Posted By: Fabio (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 01:15 PM
are you really surprised that "The Big Chill" wasnt mentioned? either you are an artard or you just wanted to look smart(?) for knowing he was in the movie.
either way go F yourself.
Posted By: mUNSON (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 01:18 PM
Privilege of youth? Jailbait?
How we gonna stop?
Fandango is an unknown classic road movie.
Posted By: David (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 01:40 PM
I have seen Fandango and loved it, the cemetery scene where they are shooting the Roman Candles at each other is funny bet yet has quite a touching moment, and who could forget the sky diving scene, NO GO, Hey your friends are sending you a message, GO ON. The one friend who is passed out for the entire movie to me was one of the best roles a guy could ever get. Anyway if you have a chance check it out it is well worth it. Sometime I have thought about trying to set up a party in a park.
Posted By: Skip Longen (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 01:48 PM
1) I have seen FANDANGO, a truly underrated gem and contains very good performances by both Costner an Judd Nelson. Costner was by no means a famous actor when he made this, and he appears very laid back, as well as playing a very unlikable character, however charismatic. I firmly believe that people think of 3 movies when they think of bad Costner: WATERWORLD, THE POSTMAN, and 3000 MILES TO GRACELAND. If it weren't for those, I think he would get more of a break. That being said, I also think TIN CUP bears mentioning, as does THE UPSIDE OF ANGER, of which both he AND Joan Allen were robbed of Oscar nominations. Guilty Pleasure: his 1990 film REVENGE, which, depsite it's violent nature, contains real chemistry between Costner and Madeline Stowe, as well as a truly heartbreaking ending.
Posted By: Alyfox (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 01:51 PM
I'm surprised you didn't mention 'The Upside of Anger'. It's easily one of his best roles to date.
Also, I have a soft spot for 'For Love of the Game'. As a baseball fan, I don't think there's a better tribute to the game than that film, which has been vastly underrated, and was directed by Sam Raimi.
Posted By: Brenda (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 02:07 PM
I saw "Fandango" in the theatre and loved it. Perhaps because I'm from Texas, perhaps because I was roughly the same age as the characters when I saw it - it's great, my favorite Kevin Costner film (Kevin Reynolds directed it, that's how they met). And you're right. No one has ever heard of it. Funny and meaningful all in the same film.
Great soundtrack as well.
Posted By: Mike (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 02:11 PM
Costner: enough golf and baseball already.
Posted By: Scaramouche (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 02:16 PM
Fandango is a pretty kick ass movie. Good call on a perfect world.
After seeing this: http://ifiblogit.blogspot.com/2007/09/success.html
you can't argue that Costner is not a good dude.
Posted By: Gary Sinise (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 02:28 PM
DANCES WITH WOLVES is my favorite Costner film, and I'm a big fan of FIELD OF DREAMS, BULL DURHAM and THE UNTOUCHABLES, but like others have mentioned, I would also add JFK and OPEN RANGE to this list. Even though he wasn't the star, I would add SILVERADO too! That's a really fun western!
Posted By: Ariel (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 03:28 PM
The best movie Costner was in was The Big Chill!! :)
Posted By: Shankar (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 03:39 PM
I saw Fandango when I was in college (showing my age?) I liked it then, don't know if I would feel the same about it now. Tin Cup was a very good comedy, and Costner was very good in it as was the rest of the cast. Great soundtrack, too. And Mr. Brooks was surprisingly good. Costner was good in A Perfect World, but the movie was weak. I think ol' Kev has more good than bad movies, but his bad stuff was pretty bad!
Posted By: Jim (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 03:48 PM
Anyone who uses the word "cheesy" when writing about film shouldn't be writing about film.
Posted By: Wee Willie (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 03:55 PM
Dances With Wolves has no staying power?!?! That's just crazy talk. Forrext Gump is a movie that has been largely forgotten (it shouldn't have even won Best Picture that year, it should have been Shawshank Redemption, but I digress) and Schindler's List is most remembered for being the punch line of a Seinfeld episode! Dances With Wolves is the high water mark for actor/director "pet project" career moves!
Posted By: Jim Again (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 03:55 PM
I have seen fandango and think it's a great movie to bad it the first actor director pairing from the team who would go on to bring you Waterworld and Robin Hood. Ouch. I can't believe you left JFK off this list. I think it's better than a couple on the movies you listed. What's wrong with you?
Posted By: lowtech (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 03:57 PM
I don't like Kevin Costner as an actor that much, but I like a lot of movies that he has been it. Is that just strange?
Oh yeah What is the Gilroy and why are you picking on me? :)
Posted By: Simon Gilroy (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 04:22 PM
I've loved Kevin Costner in every film. I love some more than others, sure. I think he's a brilliant and talented actor, bar none. He is not lame, he is not a wash up, he is in fine shape. He is very loved in his field. You fade into the wood work otherwise. Kevin Costner isn't a termite. He's the nail that holds the board, the paste that sticks the photograph, the stuff a creative person dreams of being. I admire him greatly. Don't diss the Kev.
Posted By: Biggest FAN of ALL (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 04:46 PM
Costner is a HUGE bseball fan, that's why he makes so many baseball movies. That being said, I think "For Love of the Game" is an underrated movie. I think it captures the right spirit of an old ballplayer thinking about retiring from all he's ever known, thinking about how he got there & all that, and not realizing he's cementing his legacy by throwing a perfect game in the process - arguably the hardest thing to do in all of sports. It could be better without most of the Kelly Preston scenes, but I still get some chills near the end.
Posted By: Jeremy (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 05:06 PM
not only have i heard of Fandango, it's my favorite movie of all time. i'm not really a Costner fan persay, but he has made a handful of films i quite like. i'd say Fandango is the perfect movie for people who don't like Costner. the director of Fandango was also the director of Robin Hood and Waterworld. I think Tin Cup is one of Kevin's better movies and i hated with a passion Dances w/ Wolves.
Posted By: kilbeyhands (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 05:07 PM
i forgot about Revenge. that was a good Costner movie.
Posted By: kilbeyhands (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 05:07 PM
He is more than worthy of a reappraisal. I watched REVENGE recently, and it's undoubtedly one of his best. I actually stood next to him in a lift last year, and the guy still has real prescence and retains that rugged everyman quality. He should be making good movies still. What he really needs is a hot young director to do a Tarantino on him and give him some challenging and complex work. In fact, maybe Quint has a role for him in his new WW2 flick - cast against type!
Posted By: travis (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 05:23 PM
Fandango is actually a favorite of mine. I really liked it because it felt real to me. It was awkward at times, funny: I guess I feel that what made it great was the "understated" quality of the film. I haven't watched it for a while, so I don't know how it holds up, but I can't imagine someone not finding something they can take away from that film that makes them smile and at the memory of some crazy stunt they pulled in their youth or give them some good ideas for future road trips
Posted By: costo (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 06:26 PM
I wouldn't say that "A Perfect World" is Kevin Costner's best movie, but I think it is his best performance. It was an uncharacteristically dark role for him, and he pulled it off beautifully.
Posted By: Me (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 06:43 PM
Fandango is a wonderful film. Funny, touching, and with a helluva soundtrack. Plus it has something that many of even the best films don't have: the perfect ending.
Posted By: Fandangofan (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 09:37 PM
Yes I've seen "Fandango"! I love it. OK, I did used to live near some of its shooting locations. But it had a sweetness, an authenticity to it. There was a time when Texas was cool, and the huge distances and the desert and the drunken road trips were part of the whole zeitgeist. The pot-headed parachute instructor is a hero of mine to this day.
I've only seen it on video, but if I were to see this in a real theater today, I would stand up and cheer.
Posted By: james (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Yes I've seen "Fandango"! I love it. OK, I did used to live near some of its shooting locations. But it had a sweetness, an authenticity to it. There was a time when Texas was cool, and the huge distances and the desert and the drunken road trips were part of the whole zeitgeist. The pot-headed parachute instructor is a hero of mine to this day.
I've only seen it on video, but if I were to see this in a real theater today, I would stand up and cheer.
Posted By: james (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Tin Cup defines who Costner is. He didn't have to act in that movie.
Enjoyable, plus it has Rene Russo in it.
Posted By: George H (Guest) on July 31, 2008 at 10:31 PM
saw fandango a few times when i was 12 playevin's great in it. he plays the rambunctious little brother. adorable.
Posted By: rina (Guest) on August 01, 2008 at 12:08 AM
I have seen every costner film. I think Fandango works well for Costner at that point in his career because it was ensemble and somewhat driven by the situations. He seems fairly flat in this one, but the movie is a really good one. It seems like it would have been made by people who really experienced those things, then looked back on it nostalgically. Costner is way better in No Way Out and really nailed that role to me. The only thing that sucks in that movie is that freakin disgusting synth soundtrack. They should go back when they release it Blu Ray and have a decent composer redo it- it would improve the film substantially! As for Untouchables it suffers from all the maladies of Depalma films.......overdone acting, reliance on editing (note all of his Hitchcock-esque edits) instead of story telling. Carrie is his best, and Body Double actually is heightened as a story by his style. Getting back to Costner I do think Perfect World is a great performance for him.....in a way he is more believable in that role than in any of the films he has made. Costner is really great in Bull Durham though. That's the winner for me because it had everything.
Posted By: John (Guest) on August 01, 2008 at 12:54 AM