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The Dark Knight Review
Posted by Chad Webb on 07.18.2008



Christian Bale: Bruce Wayne/Batman
Heath Ledger: Joker
Aaron Eckhart: Harvey Dent/Two Face
Michael Caine: Alfred Pennyworth
Maggie Gyllenhaal: Rachel Dawes
Gary Oldman: Lt. James Gordon
Morgan Freeman: Lucius Fox
Eric Roberts: Salvatore Maroni
Nestor Carbonell: Mayor Robert Garcia
Cillian Murphy: Scarecrow
Chin Han: Lau
Nathan Campbell: James Gordon Jr.
Monique Curnen: Ramirez
Anthony Michael Hall: Reese
Melinda McGraw: Barbara Gordon
Michael Jai White: Gambol
Director: Christopher Nolan
Written By: Jonathan and Christopher Nolan
Release Date: July, 18, 2008
Running Time: 152 minutes







PG-13 for intense sequences of violence and some menace.

If all I wrote in my review was “Best Comic Book Film Ever”, I think everyone would be satisfied, and no complaints would be made about the content or quality of my writing. In truth, that could very well be what the world has received with The Dark Knight. It is/was the most anticipated blockbuster of the year, surviving buzz and gossip for months, even years, and it has surpassed all expectations. From top to bottom, all facets of this production are masterful. At this point, I think even Tim Burton would bow down to Director Christopher Nolan. He has crafted a shining diamond of an accomplishment that this generation will not soon forget.

Now that Batman (Christian Bale) has defeated Ra’s Al Ghul, he has developed into an almost mythical figure. Many think of The Caped Crusader as a savior, the man that will clean up Gotham City, but that is certainly not a unanimous outlook. He must contend with imitator Batmen, the Scarecrow, and the ferociousness of dogs. His actions have begun to cripple the mob bosses and other organized crime factions. This situation intensifies when new District Attorney Harvey Dent (Aaron Eckhart) wastes little time in attacking all the syndicates head on. In the meantime, he is involved with Bruce Wayne’s childhood sweetheart Rachel Dawes (Maggie Gyllenhaal), which is met with mixed opinions from the owner of Wayne Enterprises. With Dent, Batman, and Lt. James Gordon (Gary Oldman) as a trio preparing to wipe out crime, it seems as if the city will soon be a better place. Unfortunately, a psychotic madman named the Joker (Heath Ledger) has his own agenda, and is quickly ascending as the foremost menace. He gathers the mob and persuades them to unify under the goal of eliminating Batman. As the leader of this force, he wreaks havoc all over the streets and skyscrapers of Gotham. When Joker clashes with Batman he demands that he remove his mask, or the death toll will rise every day.

I have to be honest. I built up for this motion picture by revisiting Batman Begins and the 1989 Batman. I wanted to see them back to back and make my decision on what was superior in my own eyes. Burton’s vision held a special place in my heart since I was a child, but regardless, I would still give it the edge for any number of reasons. I love both almost equally, but even I who slightly prefers Burton must admit that The Dark Knight exceeds both of his efforts in the legendary Batman saga. It is a hypnotizing, unsettling, and imposing achievement. One statement that best describes this is that it does not look, feel, or sound like a comic book movie. Nolan attested that it go beyond the label of a mere “adaptation.”

Christian Bale epitomizes the Batman character in every way, shape, and form. He is a man of few words when in costume, he is not invincible, and he is not a hero in the eyes of all. As a matter of fact he is a dark and ominous individual who speaks with coarse, deep tones, and makes sure that each blow counts. Bale can safely position himself as one of the top actors to slip on this suit. He is noticeably skinnier compared to Batman Begins, probably due to Rescue Dawn, so the shirtless shots are few and far between. In terms of the strength of his portrayal, he exposes Wayne/Batman in a unique light never before seen. He is legitimately scared and unsure of how the chaos will conclude. Wayne doubts and questions his choices, and they all have consequences. These are not penalties that only movie characters suffer, but realistic ones that must be dealt with.

The first images of Harvey Dent are via news broadcast where he is seen walking into court with Rachel Dawes by his side. From that moment Aaron Eckhart’s depiction was oozing conviction, pride, and confidence. This is a powerhouse addition to his resume that proves how viable a star he can be. That is saying something after the acclaimed hit Thank You For Smoking. Dent is a man with guts. He is a person that will walk straight through occasional gunfire to reach his destination, and will not be intimidated by the warnings of any mob goon. He does not revel in the spotlight, but does not stay away from it either. He is a proficient speaker, a charismatic gentleman, and the mounting symbol of hope for Gotham residents. Eckhart nails it with class, magnificence, as his fate chills you to the bone.

I have come to a conclusion about Rachel Dawes. After being further bothered by Katie Holmes’ over the top job in Begins, I was anxious for Maggie Gyllenhaal to step into those shoes and repair some of the damage. To her credit, she treats Dawes better with her acting, but one fact has not changed since 2005. Rachel Dawes is annoying, no matter who is playing her. She is a self-centered, whiny, and insincere female who has two wealthy men in the palm of her hand. She is regularly a damsel in distress, but at least Gyllenhaal attempts to mold the character into a tolerable love interest and woman caught in the middle of the pandemonium, instead of just an intolerable pain.

If Cesar Romero was a mischievous and harmful trickster, and Jack Nicholson was a sadistic clown, Heath Ledger's Joker is an insane terrorist. He is a warped, sick, and eerie criminal hell bent on creating turmoil. His motives differ from the mob that ruled Gotham prior to Batman’s arrival. He is nowhere hear as funny as his predecessors, but nevertheless his mannerisms, speech, and unstable awkwardness will induce chuckles from time to time. Is his performance worth the hype? Yes. Heath Ledger is more memorable than any comic villain in history, and his death has no affect on that. If he was alive, and I wish he were to give more performances like this, it will still be hailed as it justly deserves because that was how Ledger approached the material. At times it is hard to believe it is Patrick Verona from 10 Things I Hate About You under the makeup. He had been elevating his game gradually since Monster’s Ball, and he has left us with a thought provoking, bizarre, and ultimately brilliant finale to his short career.

Many other faces, old and new, are notable as well for exemplary supporting contributions. Michael Caine is still fabulous as Alfred Pennyworth, an important and blunt mentor in the life of Bruce Wayne. He is a butler, but one that guides and soothes Bruce through the ordeal. Gary Oldman is a controlled and dependable police Lieutenant in James Gordon. Oldman is as reliable as usual, though Gordon is considerably more momentous in how the events unfold. And who could forget Morgan Freeman as Lucius Fox? This is not uncharted territory for Freeman, but he packs an impact for his screen time.

Christopher Nolan has landed firmly in a higher phase of his directorial career. This is his sixth film, and with such amazing consistency, he is now in the same category as a Ridley Scott, with or without the frequent award nominations. I cannot say how much CGI was utilized in the making of The Dark Knight, but the explosions, stunt work, and gunfire expressed absolutely no flaws to the naked eye. Maybe they squared off a random city and just blew it to shreds, I don’t know. The action sequences are glorious, such as a thrilling moment where Joker chases an assembly of cop vehicles in a tractor trailer truck with a bazooka. Nolan’s timing is meticulous, yet perfect in that he understands exactly when to shift from a riveting conversation to an exhilarating shootout, suspenseful terror, or substantial encounters.

Christopher and Jonathan Nolan have weaved a complex tale of greed, power, judgment, and the sacrifices of eradicating a greater evil for this seedy world. It is not as simple as good guy versus bad guy. Many lines are not only quotable, but fit the proceedings with sheer excellence, such as Joker’s “When the chips fall, the people will eat themselves.” The music from James Newton Howard and Hanz Zimmer fills the adventure with passionate, inspiring, and brooding sounds. Cinematographer Wally Pfister has sprouted from soft porn backgrounds to delivering angles on an epic scale. He captures Gotham, with Nolan’s supervision, as a domineering and daunting area that shapes its citizens to fit the same mood.

When I arrived approximately an hour ahead of schedule, I noticed that the majority of the seats in my particular theater will almost filled to capacity. It was being shown in 4 different rooms, and I had to pass three tellers before entering and finding a seat. Once the lights dimmed, and iconic logo was displayed, all the noise silenced as we all became engrossed in what was transpiring. In the decades that will pass, the millions of young viewers that attended screenings for The Dark Knight will still remember the event as vividly as those who were similar ages saw and soaked in Star Wars.


The 411: I have been reading and hearing so much about The Dark Knight for so long that I thought it an impossible task to reach this rating. I do not give it out lightly, and I tend to become even harsher as the hype grows. I loved this movie from start to finish. Any sort of movie fan could not ask for a better experience. I could grumble about Bale's overly deep voice when he is in costume, or a few other minor things, but why bother? This is fantastic. You have it all here in a masterful 152 minutes of action, drama, humor, and suspense. If they do continue the series, and with the money this will take in, I can’t see why they wouldn’t, this will be mighty hard to beat.
411 Elite Award
Final Score:  10.0   [ Virtually Perfect ]  legend


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Ledger was the best Joker that there ever could have been. He was the Joker

Posted By: Tapp (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 04:51 AM

 
 
damn it now I'm wanting to see it tommorow even more.........12 more hours.

Posted By: EBak (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 05:01 AM

 
 
I saw this the very first season on opening day in Melbourne Aust and even then the cinema was packed. Which is not common at all. This movie is nothing short of spectacular!! And everyone walked out the cinema AMAZED at what they had just seen.

A true masterpiece for the genre. But more so, it transcends the super hero movie into a crime thriller/drama/action hybrid. It's just happens to be with guys who are wearing masks.

Ledgers performance is hands down the best Joker by far and it is sad that we will never see Bale/Ledger go at it again. Cos you know that if they'd locked horns in future installments it would be even more epic than this. They really built a foundation where these two could go at it for eons. And it would be brilliant everytime.

The hype was definately lived up to in my opinion.

I could go on for another 2000 characters but I won't. STANDING OVATION FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED!!!!

Now. To see this in IMAX.


Posted By: GAZ (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 05:09 AM

 
 
Saw it at 12:01 at an IMAX theater. Easily the most amazing movie I have seen and a phenomenal way to bust my IMAX cherry. It was so good I can't even put into words all that was right.

Posted By: Rob391 (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 06:06 AM

 
 
Many times I read these reviews and wonder what the reviewer was smoking, but he hit the nail on the head. I mentioned to my friend after the movie about the gravelly voiced Bale as my only complaint. I followed it up by saying it's such a lame critique, but I have to find something wrong with the movie. I don't even care much for Batman, but this was one of the better movies I've ever seen, easily the best Comic adaptation and possibly best action film I've ever seen.

Posted By: beezy (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 06:20 AM

 
 
It wasn't that good. Seriously, how MANY times can people reveal themselves to be working for the enemy before the police start doing some sort of background check? BULLSHIT, I say!!!

Posted By: bah. (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 06:28 AM

 
 
NICHOLSON OWNS LEDGER....ok just joking. had to get it out of my system. i just got home from a 3am show and all 16 theaters were filled to the max and everyone was in standing ovation at the end. not a single person hated this movie. this is the best batman movie ever, and i personally think this is better then any comic book adapted movie ever also, including iron man. sorry fan boys, TDK owns iron man, as good as iron man was. this definitely was an amazing movie. i recommend it to anyone.

Posted By: Chris (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 06:40 AM

 
 
I normally hate superhero movies, but, even to me, this looks like a damn good movie.

Posted By: Guest#9726 (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 07:55 AM

 
 
To say that Burton's film even compares to the Dark Knight is an outrage. Ledger makes Nicholson look like a 3 year old trying to act the part at an elementary school play. Sure, it may be the first Batman and you may idolize the fact that it may have affected your youth. I used to jump off of my back porch with a blanket tied around my neck. I watched that VHS so many times that the film snapped. I am not saying that Michael Keaton and Jack Nicholson didn't do a great job, I am telling you that it was OVERSHADOWED by just Heath Ledger playing the Joker. He was so good at being a psychopath, that you would think that he was one. If you didn't know who was in the movie because the cast wasn't mentioned you would never know that it was him. No one left during the credits. The movie was so suspenseful people wanted more. I have never heard so many cheers to anyones name as when Heath Ledger's name rolled accross the screen, everyone applauded. It wasn't just him that put out a great performance, the cast was insanely good. It IS the MOVIE of the SUMMER. I watched it last night and I plan on going again this weekend. It was that great...

Posted By: Dustin (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 07:57 AM

 
 
Yeah we were blown away, everyone was just standing amazed outside the theatre, they had to shut the lights off to make us go home.

Posted By: Tony (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 08:29 AM

 
 
I must agree with the sentiments of the reviewer and the other folks makin coments - saw this midnight last night (Newfoundland time, so the earliest in North America!). Virtually perfect. Everything you've heard is true, Ledger's Joker is an absolute revelation. There will probably not be a better movie this year. Believe the hype - go see this movie.

Posted By: Butch Please (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 08:42 AM

 
 
"Now. To see this in IMAX."

This.

I am going to the IMAX (1998 Broadway NYC) Sunday for a 2PM showing.

I simply cannot wait!


Posted By: Guest#6406 (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 08:53 AM

 
 
Can't wait to see this in Imax tomorrow.

Posted By: Guest#3558 (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 09:26 AM

 
 
That one guy deserves to be choked out...this movie is so overhyped, but still lives up to it. Saw it last night and I'm still buzzing... It was that damn good. Ledger > Jack, Bale > All the others. It was nearly perfect... As far as background checks...The Joker was turning people against their jobs through horrifying means...it wasn't that they were traitors. He made them turn through threats on their families etc.

Posted By: Ser Drake (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 10:34 AM

 
 
"It wasn't that good. Seriously, how MANY times can people reveal themselves to be working for the enemy before the police start doing some sort of background check? BULLSHIT, I say!!! "

Well considering that nearly the entire force was corrupt besides Gordan, I would say that answers your complaint. He says it in Batman Begins, "In a town this bad, who's there to rat to anyway?"


Posted By: Will (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 10:52 AM

 
 
Saw the midnight show last night, or should I say "experienced" it. 152 minutes flies by like 15 and the pace Nolan sets is frenetic and barely lets up, with its plot having more twists and turns than a water snake. For once, the hype is justified - this will be "the" movie this summer and perhaps for all of 2008. See it for yourselves.

Posted By: Nick (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 11:20 AM

 
 
He says it at the beginning of this movie too. He tells Dent that if he didn't put people on his force that Dent had investigated...he'd be working alone.

That's one of the things I liked about the movie (and I LOVED the movie)Gordon's crooked department cost them SOOOO much by the end...that Dent can be believably pissed at him.

The whole experience was simply riveting, IMO.

And then there was Ledger's Joker. Which was pretty much the best thing ever.


Posted By: Guest#0020 (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 11:21 AM

 
 
MASTERPEICE

I saw 12:01 show last night. Simply put this film was a masterpeice. The story had amazing depth and the direction was flawless. It starts out as a typical comic book movie and develops into an crime drama/morality/ epic. The Joker/Batman arc proves to be very true to the comic book.

Ledger was captivating. His Joker becomes developed further and further each time he is on screen. His last confrintation with batman is when the full insanity of his charachter is realized.

To be fair, you can not really compare the Nicholson Joker to the Ledger Joker. They really are two diffent characters. Both owned each of his films equally and both will stand the test of time. Nicholsons Joker was the standard 2 decades of comic book villans were compared to. Now ledgers will do the same for the next 2 decades.

While the'89 Joker had straight forward story line and background history, the Ledger joker interjects through the story when he pleases and sometimes without any motive (until the end). The movie is not about Joker it is about Harvey Dent. His rise and fall in the city he wants to save. Batman, Gordon, the mob, Gotham and The Joker are there to impact it and show him the diffrent paths.

This is a film that must be seen more than once to really apprciate its scope and depth.


Posted By: Big Dirty (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 11:43 AM

 
 
Hard to add to what's already been said but do have to give kudos for the makeup/CGI guys for making Two-Face's scars look EXACTLY like the comic. Eckhart was so great working it out too, makes you wish they'd held back a bit for another movie. But still, the best Batman film and best comic book movie, just a masterwork.

Posted By: Michael Weyer (Registered)  on July 18, 2008 at 11:59 AM

 
 
this was the most amazing movie i have ever seen. the theater was so packed the line went around it. and it's a big theater at the rave. they had to show it in nine theaters the crowd was so big. we didn't get home till four am. but it was worth it. Rest in peace heath ledger.

Posted By: johnny (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 11:59 AM

 
 
Well it wasnt all that good,little overated I think...good but no way A 10/10

Posted By: bigbob (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 12:01 PM

 
 
I really liked the ending of the film. I think it left many paths open for the next film. My question is did what we think happen with Two Face really happen? I think there is an intriguing parrallel to that of the original Tim Burton Batman.

Maybe all is not what it appears to be in Gotham.


Posted By: Big Dirty (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 12:17 PM

 
 
I saw it and it was amazing!!

Aaron Eckhart does incredible and steal the show IMO. Which is tough to do over the obvious unbelieveable preformance of Ledger and Bale as the best man to ever done the mask and cape.


Posted By: WOW (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 12:42 PM

 
 
It was perfect. No other way to put it.

Posted By: Jeremy (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 12:55 PM

 
 
spider-man in my opinion is the greatest comic boook movie i ever seen.

the dark knight is one of the greatest movies ever made.

yeah ledger OWNS the movie. he AT LEAST deserves an oscar nomination.


Posted By: rey (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 01:00 PM

 
 
Christopher Nolan = Best director of our time

Posted By: kevnb (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 01:06 PM

 
 
They hype about Heath Ledger's performance has not been overdone. He captured The Joker character as well as anybody has captured any movie character ever. It's not necessarily the best performance of all time. That's too strong of a statement. But as far as truly getting to the essence of the thing, he nailed it absolutely perfectly.

I vote we retire the Joker forever now.


Posted By: JD Koziarski (Registered)  on July 18, 2008 at 01:32 PM

 
 
this is now my new favorite movie. definitly a 10 from start to finish. Hans Zimmer's soundtrack also nails it on the head. it is absolutly perfect.

Posted By: john (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 02:30 PM

 
 
It was a good movie, maybe even at the cusp of greatness, but it just fell a little short for me. My biggest complaint is that it seemed to drag, often. I think a few too many turns got in the way.

Ledger's performance was good, but I don't think he'd irreplaceable. He was good, but Mark Hamill is still the Joker to me.

I really enjoyed Aaron Eckhart, and I feel his performance has been overshadowed.

I might be jaded, though, in my thoughts. The theatre I was at was terribly unorganized. It was almost a full hour after midnight when the movie started, and we were in and out of several theatres because they didn't sell tickets for individual screens, they just sold tickets.

It was a good movie, but Iron Man is still my top movie of the year.


Posted By: G-Walla (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 03:12 PM

 
 
GREATEST SUPER HERO MOVIE OF ALL TIME
Heath Ledger RULES!!!!!!


Posted By: Lino C. (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 03:59 PM

 
 
the ben hur of comic book movies shit was awesome

Posted By: sfgv (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 04:34 PM

 
 
Most OVERRATED movie EVER

Batman Returns is easily the greatest Batman flick ever made .

Iron Man was good not great, the actions scenes were weak .

The first two Superman, The Crow and SpiderMan II are VASTLY superior to TDK

Don't believe the hype and try to make your own opinion


Posted By: Van Daminator (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 04:48 PM

 
 
G Walla you got it right

Mark HAMILL IS The one and only Joker .

Ledger's performance (while good) is already vastly overrated for years to come


Posted By: Van Daminator (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 04:55 PM

 
 
FANTASTIC column Webb! One point of contention, the Nolan series being BETTER than the Burton. As one that grew up with the adam west/superfriends Batman THEN became exposed to Bob Kane's original intentions and Frank Miller. I love BOTH for different reasons. So do I love both Mr Nolan's and Mr Burton's visions.

Tim's was the stylized comic/tv series homage in MY opinion. The Kilmer/Clooney train wrecks were the PRODUCERS fault and are hereby OMITTED from MY Bat-canon. Nolan has finally humanized Bruce Wayne and RE-mystified The Bat.


Posted By: CM Wolf (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 10:19 PM

 
 
Sorry saw the link to the left asking "WHO'S THE BEST BATMAN?"

Since it cant be DENIED that Clooney and Kilmer played the part, can we AT LEAST come to the agreement that NEITHER of those performances were even up to the actor's usual fare much less doing the character justice?


Posted By: CM Wolf (Guest)  on July 18, 2008 at 10:27 PM

 
 
Who's gonna except Heath Ledgers' Oscar for Best Actor???Gay Cowboy no more,,,HE IS,,,THE!! Joker..Sorry Jack,but you'll always be "Jack".Mr.Ledger is now the Joker.

Posted By: Choopapa (Guest)  on July 19, 2008 at 12:29 AM

 
 
Ledger's Joker was simply masterful. Dark, demented and sadistic, he owned and embodied the role. Ledger should win the Oscar for his fine work, which stands as a fitting final role for the talented actor. Fine, fine work.

Posted By: Beeker (Guest)  on July 19, 2008 at 12:42 AM

 
 
Amazing movie!!!!! A little long, but ledger's performance was nothing short of incredible. The whole audience cheered at the end and the theater was packed!!! Best movie of the year by far....

Posted By: bluepaul (Guest)  on July 19, 2008 at 12:57 AM

 
 
I was totally satisfied with the movie & could see it again and again.

The one scene that will be etched in my mind is The Joker making a pencil disappear. Brilliant, funny & creepy!

I also think they tossed in subtle little hints for future movies... Lucious & Bruce discussing the new suit, "It will protect you against dogs & even cats." Unless I'm just thinking a little too much about it.

If they're to do a third one she's the only villain that makes sense following this plot. Batman is now a vigilante, he lost the love of his life so why not fall for the "bad guy."

It got me to thinking of casting for the future movies. When the cast is normally announced I left wondering whether or not they'll work out but they haven't failed us yet, so here's my picks for future Batman characters (I'm really stuck on The Penguin though...)

Robin: Shia LeBeouf
Catwoman: Charlize Theron or Kate Beckinsale
The Riddler: Adrien Brody
Mr. Freeze: Russell Crowe
Posion Ivy: Rachel McAdams or Emily Blunt
The Mad Hatter: Robin Williams
The Penguin: Jonah Hill (Not a fan of this choice but completely stuck...)
...& if they're to have The Joker back, I can ONLY see Johnny Depp doing anything exceptional following Heath Ledger & his interpretation still might not live up to it.


Posted By: Tim (Guest)  on July 19, 2008 at 01:30 PM

 
 
Scary thing, but when Bale raises his Batman voice in this, he reminds me a bit of...Vince McMahon. (thinking of Anthony, as in Opie and, doing Angry Vince now: "Joker, kiss my ass! THAT'S RIGHT, KISS MY ASS!") He needs to work on that, even Conroy had to (at the beginning of TAS, I found that it was a little over the top deep at times)

I need to see it again or just read the plot outline on Wikipedia or something, to follow everything I may have missed, but generally I am happy.

Ledger did a good funny yet more serious/deadly Joker. Kind of a mix of what we know and what Nolan envisioned. I still love Hamill the most, but he did a good job, no doubt. The thing with the pencil = AWESOME. And did anyone pick up the nod to I think his first or second appearance? (You can see Joker in one scene posing as a cop, with no makeup and the scars visible. This happened in the comic too)

Whoever picked up the "dogs...and cats" thing, I didn't think of that! But will they want to wait another 8 years to even think of using Catwoman? (Assuming that 8 years passed between Batman and Robin and Batman Begins, Nolan would have to wait till 2012 to try that :-))

Van Daminator, BReturns was a bit too Burtonized and had a little absurdity, though not quite Schumacher-esque (you can't scratch using a CD!). I never saw The Crow (oddly enough!), found Iron Man fun and of course think the Avengers build is genius, first two Supermen were good but did have bits of lameness (turning the world backwards??? And FYI, the Donner Supes II would have been so much better if they just used the original ending instead of repeating that), and Spidey 2 I liked as well but I maintain that they didn't use the comic Spider-Man's humor enough for the most part in all three movies.

But they're all good movies, though, warts and all. So is TDK.

Wish Joker could come back, but it is not to be...and anyone can be recasted and people would still keep them in Ledger's shadow. (And to the person who suggested it, don't say the J.D. words ;-) Like we need his screeching fangirls following us into Batman) They never said Two-Face was DEAD, but signs pointed to yes, which is odd because I thought he was set to carry the third film. Well it wasn't as much of a clusterfuck as what they did to Venom.

So who? Scarecrow is still around, Ra's just needs a Lazarus Pit (that might not be realistic enough for Nolan), Penguin Nolan doesn't want to do, Croc = not realistic, Riddler might be over the top unless he's more subtle and cool-headed like on TAS...this is tough, actually...

And hey, no more love interest! (At least the Rachel thing went somewhere between the two movies though, instead of the token supermodel girlfriends)


Posted By: james (Guest)  on July 20, 2008 at 01:42 AM

 
 
Oh, and I knew it was coming, but I marked out for what I think was the first live action Bats to use the white eyes :-)

Anyone else get the Watchmen trailer? That has potential...unfortunately it seems like no one knew who they were (understandably so). On the other hand I worried that they'd confuse this with a Justice League movie. But you never know...Iron Man wasn't a widely known character outside of comic fans.


Posted By: James (Guest)  on July 20, 2008 at 01:44 AM

 
 
One last thing...ZEUS is in this movie. I shit you not!

Posted By: James (Guest)  on July 20, 2008 at 02:02 AM

 
 
I cannot agree more with the author. Ledger was absolutely amazing. Where as Nicholson played the Joker kinda over the top funny, Ledger plays him with an anarchist murderous joyful mayhem that conveys the "true" Joker. He totally blew Jack Nicholson out of the water.

Christian Bale is the only actor who looks and acts the part of Batman and Bruce Wayne. Michael Keaton kicked ass but he was average size. Batman spent his entire life molding his body into perfection. Bale's got that. He's got dark and brooding and whimsical and flirty down pat.

There is always something I find wrong when it comes to comic book based movies, mostly dealing with the characters, but I cannot find anything wrong with The Dark Knight. It may be one of the greatest movies I've ever seen period. Every one plays their part with their utmost A game. Between 1 and 10 and 10 being the best, if I had to give a score for The Dark Knight, it would be 100!


Posted By: Supermannsc (Guest)  on July 20, 2008 at 03:02 AM

 
 
I picked up on the "dog & cats" thing.

I like to look for subtle things like that in movies & am a huge Batman nerd so it got me excited. Could be nothing but the fact that they tossed it in makes me think they want you to think that.

The story of this movie was absolutely brilliant. It took me a few days to really think about whether I was so excited about this movie that I couldn't think bad things about it (except for Bale's voice as Batman) & now that it's digested, the movie is brilliant.

As for Catwoman actually appearing in the next film, I think it could work. I've never seen the Catwoman movie with Halle Berry so I know that I'd forget about it & think that Christopher Nolan could make the character relevant again if he casts the correct actress. Like I said before I think that Chalize Theron or Kate Beckinsale would be excellent. My friend said that he sees Scarlett Johanson playing her but I'm not all too familiar with her work. How about Megan Fox as a possible candidate too? I'm not sure if her acting chops would be on par with everyone else but she'd look damn hot in the Catwoman outfit.

Her being in the next one seems to make the most sense. Like I said before, Batman is now viewed as a vigilante so why not have him fall for the villain in the next one? It just makes sense.

The Riddler is my favorite villain from the comics. I was actually a fan of Jim Carrey as The Riddler but they like to take the psychologcal route with characters & I think that Adrien Brody (who I'm not a huge fan of) or Johnny Depp would be excellent choices to play him.

They could just hand over the helm to Joel Schumacker again & have Zac Efron as Robin, Britney Spears as Batgirl (I think this would make people curious to see it... lol).

Who knows? It's been a brilliant franchise & I hope there's another installment.

However, I could see the CW capitalizing on the success of this film & making a series again. I'd prefer it be written by the writers of Supernatural, I think they do superb work with their show that could otherwise be completely campy.


Posted By: Tim (Guest)  on July 20, 2008 at 10:37 AM

 
 
This is by far the best super-hero movie I've seen and watching it twice only makes me appreciate it even more. Heath Ledger's Joker is the best on-screen villain in any comic adaptation ever. He is truly deserving of the praise he's received and if nominated for Best Supporting Actor then just give him the award. Christopher Nolan's vision is stunning from start to finish. Even Eric Roberts of all people was solid. Also Batman's voice makes sense since Bruce Wayne is such a flamboyant figure of course anyone would catch on to who he is. Can't wait for the DVD or when it comes to the IMAX in NM.

Posted By: mj (Guest)  on July 20, 2008 at 10:32 PM

 
 
I'm not a huge Batman fan but I know a good movie when I see one and WOW! This sure was a GREAT movie!! I want to find some bad reviews to see what anyone could see wrong with it besides it being over 2.5 hours long. I want to go see it again, anyone else with me?

Posted By: David (Guest)  on July 20, 2008 at 11:40 PM

 
 
Best Action Movie Ever!!!!!


Ledger is a god among actors. His role as the joker will go down in movie history as one of the greatest performances of all time.


Posted By: stronelis (Guest)  on July 21, 2008 at 10:22 AM

 
 
Disagree with it being a "perfect" film. The pacing during the middle lost me for a while - as a film it's too long. The actress who played Rachel Dawes was incredibly irritating. But the most disappointing aspect was how poorly Gotham was realised.

I loved the depiction of Gotham in Begins, it had a marvellous real-world feel yet still felt like Gotham. Not so for the Dark Knight - it just seemed like "just another city".

However, it was a great film despite these minor flaws - but perfect it is not.


Posted By: Spank (Guest)  on July 25, 2008 at 08:38 AM

 


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