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The 37th Chamber 11.21.09: Flopping Around Like A Fish Out Of Water
Posted by Patrick Robinson on 11.21.2009



I seriously hate Australian weather sometimes. We're entering Day 1 of our predicted 4 day heat wave and it already sucks. I was sweatier than the Devil's ass-crack today walking around trying to do deliveries for work and in the shop, for some UNKNOWN REASON the air-conditioning decided to pump out HOT AIR for half the damn morning, meaning the shop was about 79' Fahrenheit (26' Celsius) before the boss called centre management and told them in no uncertain terms they would be paying for the medication they were ruining for being incompetent. A lot of the meds have to be kept under 25' Celsius it turns out.

At home it's almost as bad. Al Gore got to my parents and now EVERYTHING has to be ridiculously scrutinized in environmentally friendly terms. In other words, "Do we really need the air-conditioning on?" or "Just open the window" YEAH AND LET DAMN NEAR 100' FAHRENHEIT (37' Celsius or thereabouts) AIR IN INSTEAD.

I'm all for conserving energy and stuff, but there's limits to my patience when it comes to heat. Also, my keyboard just randomly broke a moment ago in that I couldn't turn the caps lock off. Usually I joke about that after writing a chunk of text, like the above, but this was actually real hahaha. I think it's time for a new desktop in the next few years.

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"7. Ain't Nothing Like You Ft. Jim Jones & Mos Def

Now THIS is a weird guest combination. Can Jim "I can't stop adlibbing anymore" Jones and Mos Def coexist on a track together?

Someone is probably going to tell me they've already done a track together. I would have checked iTunes but it refuses to work at the moment.

You know what; it's probably gonna be one of Jim Jones' best verses. I noticed in the rare occasion that bad rapper meets good rapper on the same track the bad rapper usually spits his best verse of his career while the good rapper usually spits an okay verse (this does not happen every time though)"
- Dab

Yeah it's almost like, the bad rapper KNOWS they're viewed as bad (no rapper ever sees themselves as being bad, regardless of how terrible they are) and when paired with someone who has a reputation for being dope, it's almost like a personal challenge to step their game up. I think it's quite a good thing really, it shows that the bad rapper still has a love for the spirit of hip-hop and hasn't been totally jaded by the money or label's influences yet.

"I'm sorry but Lil Boosie looks like the fakest dude ever. Every time I see him he has a ridiculous amount of jewelry on, flashing around money...it's like he wants to be the stereotype everyone hates. Yet he's skinny as fuck. If he were a big dude cool, but he's like this skinny, super-dark black guy TRYING to look hard with a voice of a chipmunk." - Bobby McKay

The first time I heard Boosie, I thought he was about 13. Like there's a kid from New Orleans who is associated with Lil Wayne, Lil Chuckee (more in a moment) who has a deeper voice than Boosie and Lil Chuckee IS only 13. I liked Boosie's verse on "Out Here Grindin'" for some reason (you know, as much as I clown on Khaled for not really doing anything DJ-related, I always get his albums for some cruising music) though.

Lil Chuckee, if you haven't heard, sounds exactly the same as Lil Wayne does these days so it's kind of trippy to hear them on a song together. He even does the "Ya dig!" thing that Wayne kind of stopped doing for some reason.


Serious business is serious


"4yrs for some WEED?!?!?" - Johnny Blaze

I guess parole violation is super serious business. Although this brings up the whole, if you can cut a deal you can get a drastically reduced sentence. I suppose parole is based on the honor system at the root of things so there's no real point in offering someone a deal at that point. Still, 4 years seems a bit much.

"I don't know if I just wasn't paying attention or what, but it looks like Gucci Mane was sentenced to 12 months (6 months with good behavior) in prison. Ha.

Also, I'm looking forward to that new Obie Trice album. It's been too long since he's released an album."
- AlaskanHero

So who can I clown on considering he was to be The 37th Chamber's punching bag for a few months? I'd say OJ but I really don't want to give the dude any free press.

A new Obie album should be good. I ought to pick up Second Round's On Me at some point. My copy of Cheers doesn't actually work I don't think because I played it so much when I first got it. That and I was still rocking an ancient disc-man that probably wasn't the best for the CDs.

"First off I have no clue who OJ Da Juiceman is but since his name is stupid I think I'll actually start rapping under the moniker Jesuszilla (spitting like Del the Funkee Homosapien though)"

I wish I didn't have any idea who he was. Damn you Jadakiss! Why'd you have to have him on your album!

"Gucci Mane, um...uh...well he makes songs...yeah there's nothing to explain this."

I have a guilty pleasure going "GUCCI!" randomly during his songs, even when he hasn't actually done it yet but that's probably just to make sure I actually get through the damn song.

Maybe it's BECAUSE he has that damn adlib! Much like how wrestlers get over by developing a catchphrase or saying etc., perhaps the same principle applies in hip-hop. If you look back at some of the most irritating rappers who have somehow managed to release more than two and then gone on to release even MORE, a lot of them had adlibs. For example, Jeezy, Jim Jones, Juelz Santana, 50 Cent, Soulja Boy's YOUUUUUU's, Wayne's little gurgle-giggle-hiccup-urk noises that he makes (listen to "Holla At Me" from Khaled's first album and during Wayne's verse, at the end of EVERY BAR he makes a noise of some sort or an adlib) and more. And of course, Gucci Mane has his GUCCI! GUCCI! GUCCI!.



"Plies, I hate him. He has NO FUCKIN FLOW honest to God EVERY FUCKING track sounds the same. But Ladies LOVE him. And that's 99% of his hype. I took my ex to a Plies show...almost didn't make it out alive she had a ball I wanted to kick him in the balls."

HAHAHA CLASSIC. Now that you say that the ladies love him and it's 99% of his hype, perhaps he's the evolutionary LL Cool J minus the Classic albums, the skills and dare I say it, the looks. From a completely heterosexual standpoint LL Cool J isn't exactly an ugly dude, but Plies seriously looks like someone made him from clay. Clay that didn't set properly, fell off the table and got mashed on the floor.

"Soulja Boy's popularity is the 8th wonder of the world" - Jesuszilla son of Godzilla

It's also an embodiment of the first horseman of the Apocalypse. If we use the accepted Horsemen being Pestilence, War, Famine and Death, Soulja Boy is certainly a pestilence, which brings about war within the hip-hop community (the fiasco between him and Ice-T?), Famine (starved for good hip-hop because Soulja Boy's latest gem is raping the radio?) and Death (self-explanatory, I'm going to beat the dude with his own shoes). More on this later though.

"I can kinda explain why Soulja Boy is popular. His dancing techniques are popular with young kids and teenagers. There's always kids doin the 'Superman" or "Birdwalk". Made up dance moves are the craze these days. I wouldn't be surprised if someone made a dance move called 'Open the closest door jerkin a chicken'."

JERKIN A CHICKEN – My official dance for 2010. Now how to work it out…I think if I bring a rubber chicken with me to the clubs and perhaps pretend to come out of a door before waving the chicken around my head like a maniac I'll either be the height of popularity, or hold the record for most times being thrown out of clubs in a night.

"Another reason is because kids just wanna have fun and not look into complex lyricism. They just like having fun dancing around with their dance moves and stuff like that, just chillin without a care." - Fuckwhiners

Ah I've got no problem with kids enjoying themselves, and to be honest, I'm glad Soulja Boy raps about what he does and doesn't try to front like he's a HARDCORE GANGSTA, if only he did it a little better. Lose the HORRIFIC hooks and perhaps read a few books that weren't written by Dr. Seuss and he might end up making a decent party-rap album. Hey, I'm willing to give the dude a chance. I reviewed his first and second albums, and I'm sure as hell going to review the third when it drops.

I just wish kids would explore other artists like Naughty By Nature or the old-school LL Cool J or Run-D.M.C.!


The enabler of Death


"-Gucci Mane: Young Jeezy. Old-school style coming up, hooking up with the big dog who made it.

-OJ Da Juiceman: Gucci Mane...see above.

-Soulja Boy: YouTube/MySpace/Ringtones. All of those made him who he was. Sadly, YouTube's biggest achievement will be this.

-Plies: T-Pain. To paraphrase my namesake "he gave Plies power". If not for T-Pain, Plies would be still in Miami floundering.

And btw...all 4 men suck at their profession.

And that's the future."
- nastrodamus

It's a long chain of pain. If Akon hadn't come along, I don't think T-Pain would have and we would have been saved from Plies and other rappers who think it is acceptable to go around calling women "wet-wet" regardless of how hilarious it might be to actually do so.

I'll listen to Gucci Mane's album one day and determine if he can actually make a better album than Soulja Boy.

"I've only heard one OJ Da Juiceman song, and it's with...GUCCI! 'Make the Trap Aye', or something like that. It sucks..."

GUCCI! Hahaha that will get old in about a month when I drive myself insane from doing it for no reason. Pretty sure a song with those two together is enough to create a fracture in the time-space continuum.

"Soulja Boy gets on my nerves...my 13 year old brother likes him though. But at least my 15 year old brother is finally into Wu...I burned him my Wu-Tang catalog, he loves it."

Awesome, awesome job. I tried to get my cousin into hip-hop, but now he tends to listen to an extremely bizarre mix of rock music like Metallica, hip-hop like the Beastie Boys aaaand then N*Sync. How a person can have such bizarrely different styles in their iPod of life amazes me.

"Em is great, but I think that with the long wait between albums, people just forgot how good he can be. That's what I feel the problem will be with Detox...it will NEVER live up to the long wait or the hype it's getting." - mr_capenter1982

Yeah I'm trying not to hype myself up too much for it as I think I'm going to be disappointed unless Dre can knock out another "Next Episode" caliber track. And not that "Next Episode 2006" track that was floating around back in, well, 2006 as that beat was terrible.

"To heck with you, Pat! I could blame myself for clicking "play" on that Soulja Boy song, but I'm blaming you for posting it instead. I just realized I've been wearing a sneer for the past three minutes while that...um...song was on.

That was almost unbelievably terrible! Gah! That needed a disclaimer more than the "10 Rapes a Second" video did!

Now you owe us a new Rakim track or something. At the very least."
- Sam!



Rakim – Walk These Streets Ft. Maino & Tracey Horton

Sounds like a Dre beat huh?

HAHAHA I was listening to it in the car (yep, I put it on my car CD) and decided that I should not listen to it again as it's the kind of song that will cause me to have an accident from shaking my head in constant amazement at the fact that a song like that actually exists, not keeping my eyes on the road and inevitably end up crashing into a gas pump as I believe when I die, it is going to be in a ball of flames. Not a premonition or anything, just a hunch I have.



"This is fucking easy, basically we can look at like this

Early 90's

- Vanilla Ice
- Mc Hammer
- Snow

All style no substance, won't be heard of within a year, except for the occasional going bankrupt news. Ninja Rap was the shit though.

Present Day

-Gucci Mane
-OJ Da Juiceman
-Plies
-Soulja Boy

Ditto. Unfortunately nothing in their catalogue that will top the sheer awesomeness that is Ninja Rap.

Ninja Rap > So Icy, Superman, and all that other crap!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFLGRidfFo4

How would I describe this video, a movie quote says it best.

"People will bow to it" Grandmas Boy"
- Kurruption

Actually that's an interesting comparison. I suppose we overlook the fact that hip-hop has constantly been filled with artists of less than reputable quality because these days, with the widespread use of the internet as an advertising tool, their names are becoming bigger and bigger without any actual substance anywhere. Much like how I, and I suppose others would too, view the dances our parents did as corny or kind of uh, dangerous (mom hurt herself dancing to a Beatles song the other day which was hilarious as it wasn't a bad injury), those that are doing the dances now will probably view them as corny, but with fond memories when they hit their 40s or 50s.

I think that Vanilla Ice actually had the fact that he COULD rap going for him though. He certainly wasn't the most lyrical dude around, but he had the technical parts down. He stayed on the beat, had a pretty decent breath control and a nimble flow which was ultimately brought down by some silly lines here and there.

Plus, I think that "Ice Ice Baby" is probably one of THE most recognizable tracks in music history.

Today's equivalents however, if we use Plies as our punching bag for today, have no such luxury going for them and are forced then to find other ways to market themselves.

Oh and thanks for the video! It brought back some funny memories when I was growing up and everyone had a Ninja Turtles party at some point or another in their lives. That song would always come on at some point in the party hahaha.

"Why do people like Gucci Mane, OJ, Plies, & Soulja Boy? My theory is that every generation has a phenomenon that becomes inexplicably popular. Gucci/Juiceman/Plies/Soulja Boy/etc. is our generations inexplicably popular phenomenon." - AlaskanHero

Definitely! It kind of makes me excited to see what the future brings, mainly because I can always get a bit of a laugh out of the inexplicably popular guys for a while. I'm kind of over laughing at OJ because it's just painful now. Gucci Mane is still my Number 1 Punching Bag though.

"Soulja Boy became popular because of the dance, pure and simple. Dance craze tracks always do well because they fit in perfectly in clubs. Hell, even America's Best Dance Crew did an episode which was purely themes on dance craze tunes - the tunes were wack beyond belief, but some of the routines were hot."

Hahaha nothing beats this though:



Or would have beaten that had Warner Music Group not gotten remarkably butt hurt and forced the track to change. So don't worry, there's no actual "Crank Dat" track being played there, just some light classical music instead.

"The appeal of dance craze tracks is that they use a move that everyone can do - you ever seen a whole crowd doing an Usher glide, or a Timberlake pop?

I'm not trying to justify these tunes, just trying to offer an insight as someone who has been forced to play some of these songs to please the clubbers. It ripped out a piece of my soul every time, but sometimes I just had no choice."
- Weng

Ah yes, I feel the same pain every time people ask me to queue it up on a playlist at parties. There are so many other great party tracks out there, but instead we have to go with what's hot right now, and then proceed to play it probably 15 times in one night. The other day in the car, I had to listen to "Sexy Bitch" by Akon and David Guetta 8 times. I felt like punching my friends in the back of the head, forcing us to crash and hopefully kill me to stop having to listen to the song.

"Ninja Rap is, indeed, the shit. I saw Vanilla Ice at the 2001 Gathering of the Juggalos (bring it, haters) in Toledo, and we got the entire crowd chanting for Ninja Rap. Finally, towards the end of his set, the Iceman said "Stop it already, we're not fucking playing Ninja Rap."

He was getting immense cheers. These turned into boos. All in good fun (but we were a little let down)."
- Talon

Ah damn that would have been funny. I've read that Ice doesn't like performing "Ice Ice Baby" any more, although he may have gone back on that recently I can't remember. I don't blame him though, as an artist, you kind of want to be remembered for more than one song in your career.

"Ok I had a great comparison of Gucci Mane, Plies, OJ Da Juiceman and Soulja Boy and the horsemen of the apocalypse(horsemen of stupidity?) but it's been brought to my attention that Gucci Mane and Soulja Boy have appeared on the same song not once but TWICE!"

Four Horsemen of the Dumb-ening if that was a word. I suppose Soulja Boy would be War because he's always trying to start shit. Gucci would be Pestilence as he brought about a plague of OJ's who is thereby represented with Famine and Plies is death because I almost died listening to his third album.

"I'm pretty sure that if someone listens to "LOL Smiley face" and "Gucci Bandana" back to back that they will instantly contract brain cancer...the non operable kind!"

Even the song titles make you feel like you've just lost 2 IQ points for having read them.

"The day that these four get together on the same track with the best rapper ever: Shawty Lo (that was a joke don't ban me) I'm sure that it will cause mass stupidity worldwide. I know I know the total vocabulary of Gucci, OJ, SB and Shawty Lo could fill a children's book. And if you add Plies yelling about being a goon, the definition of real, something about "bust it babies" etc...man the worldwide high school pass rate will go up tenfold!!!" - J Dot

Wait, go up or down tenfold? Hahaha man, let's just hope they don't get into a position of power one day and change the education system worldwide. Yes, pass rates will go up, BUT AT WHAT PRICE? $4.99 for the price of the book or $5.99 for the book on tape or perhaps $10.99 for the Blu-Ray live action movie as nobody reads books or listens to tapes when there is a movie option available. Same thing happened at school. My teacher used to give our class the option of choosing which Shakespeare play we would study (I personally preferred the option of NONE and replace it with a nail gun to the foot instead). We would always pick the one with the best movie available, rent the movie and watch it, then demand we watch the movie in class to analyze it, then still not read the book anyway.

And now you know why I write gooder than everyone else heres.

"The legendary N.W.A. I grew up in the 90s so I always heard N.W.A. songs but I never paid attention until after Biggie and Pac died. (Sad to say but true) That and I had no clue Ice Cube was a part of N.W.A. for some odd reason."

Ah I can beat that, for years I had no idea he was a rapper but an actor with a strange name instead, mainly because Anaconda came out in ‘97 and I got into hip-hop around '99 hahaha.

"N.W.A. and the Posse: A solid debut. I always said that this album must have never aged well because while my older cousins love it, I thought it was good. Of course to be fair I already heard the best of N.W.A. as solo artists so I guess my expectations were too high. 7.5/10"

It's a decent debut as you said. It's funny though the amount of times that I come across people who think Straight Outta Compton was their debut as this album didn't receive half the recognition that their second album did. It's a good part of history though to hear everyone still trying to ‘find themselves' in the rap game – developing a style and working on their own individual personalities.

"Straight Outta Compton: There are some albums that deserve all the praise it gets. And this is like the Illmatic of gangster rap. The funny thing is I heard this album SO many times as a kid but didn't really notice its brilliance until I was maybe 12-13. The funny thing is my mom hated this album but loves Ice Cube don't get it 10/10 one of the few albums I can listen to with my pop front to back"

Ah I can imagine parents hating this what with the anti-police message going through it. It really brings back fond memories of that day my cousins introduced me to it, for a laugh actually, as they thought it would be funny for me to go around the house swearing for a while. Needless to say, something else happened and I fell in love with hip-hop music. Kind of a weird album to be saying that about.

Anyway something that has always impressed me about this album with repeat listens is that everything has held up really well over time. The production still sounds unique and interesting compared to today's glossy, over-produced, synth heavy environment and all the topics and content is mostly still relevant today. Racial profiling and unfair treatment by law officials still happens, no doubt about that.

"Niggaz4Life: At first I hated it. I was in my "anti-gangster rap" phase and only listened to self-conscious rap 24/7. Though now I think it's great a trip down memory lane of sorts…kind of. I believe N.W.A. was having issues back in 91 but I didn't give a shit given it was like 97 when I heard it. 8/10"

Ah I was disappointed when I first heard this because Cube had left and although they were united in their stand against him, internally, there were still problems and that's evident here as the chemistry from Straight Outta Compton isn't as obvious as it should have been. Still, I did like the fact that they didn't back down, even after receiving that letter from the FBI and continued to go hard on the album.

"N.W.A. are legends and its obvious for those who know gangster rap as opposed to those who uses it as a gimmick. They unleashed a phenomenon on the west coast. The good thing about the lack of censorship in 80-90s music videos was that it brought the message home without glamorizing it or seeming like a fuckin music video" - Jesuszilla son of Godzilla

I don't think it was just the West Coast even! N.W.A.'s kick-in-the-door attitude helped inspire others to rap in a similar fashion all over America. Straight Outta Compton has serious sentimental value (again, seems weird describing a N.W.A. album in such a way) for me and the rest of their albums too shaped my musical tastes and inclinations. If a ‘new' N.W.A. ever started up on the West, I'd probably be unbelievably critical of everything they did due to the fact that N.W.A. really were pioneers of gangsta rap, TRUE gangsta rap and that anyone else trying to leech off their legacy would be unworthy to me.

The Mini Rant





The big news this week, or so I see it, is the fact that Before I Self Destruct is projected to sell only 150-160,000 copies. That's a lot in this current musical climate but NOT a lot in terms of what 50 Cent has done in the past, nor what an artist attached to the Aftermath/Interscope/Shady Records family should be doing either.

Now I'm going to get a big shits and giggles kick out of seeing what kind of excuse 50 can come up with this time to explain the low figures as the G-Unit group album excuse, "they didn't ship enough copies out" really only works when you are an artist the label no longer has faith in. Does Interscope not have faith in the G-Unit label/brand/group anymore?

By comparison, Wale sold only 28,000 copies of his debut album, but given only 30,000 copies were shipped out, it's a fairly impressive total. Wale's defense also makes a lot more sense in that he's claiming that by releasing the music on a slow-burn process, you will build up a bigger fan base of dedicated fans as opposed to the fly-bys who buy your first album, but don't bother with anything else. Just look at the drop Soulja Boy saw for his second album sales compared to his first!

It's not as if 50 hasn't followed the same formula he did with his last albums either. Get a couple of tracks out there to start with, start some shit with another rapper to ensure the album is constantly in everyone's minds (as you KNOW that every time the feud is covered, the report is going to finish with "50 Cent's album, Before I Self Destruct is set for release on blah blah blah") and do some basic promotion for the album too.

And yet, here he is, looking at first week figures that aren't exactly that much higher than Jada's first week numbers (approx. 135,000). Sure, the 50 Stans can come out of the woodwork and say that nobody is selling at all anyway, so 150,000 is an accomplishment, but these are the exact same people who constantly claim that sales equate a Classic album (Get Rich Or Die Tryin' anyone?). 50 Cent himself FREQUENTLY boasts about the number of albums he's sold like it means something in the grand scheme of things. Yes it means that you have a lot of money, congratulations, but the albums pale in comparison to other mainstream albums that just don't get the backing from the labels.

Regardless of what you think of 50 Cent, the fact of the matter is he's losing popularity each week which is clearly evidenced by the sales. It's no wonder as he is always stepping on toes and causing problems. I was a Game fan when he first came out (still a fan, not as much, but I'll still be buying his new album next year when it drops) and downloaded about 20 different mixtapes, most of which I haven't actually listened to anyway. My moment of clarity came when 50 kicked him off G-Unit in an unnecessarily public and embarrassing way. I was a 50 Cent fan too until that point – I paid $100 to see him in concert, had heaps of mixtapes and all the albums, a throwback jersey and even the first generation shoes he released (which are incidentally, hands down, the most comfortable pair of shoes I have ever owned), but when I looked back, I saw an emerging pattern. 50 Cent burns damn near every bridge with other artists in the industry and as a result, isolates himself from other artists. I think that much like Game, many people lost faith in 50 when he started going after Nas, an established name and dare I say, almost legendary artist in the hip-hop industry. Why? Because Nas is the favorite artist of a LOT of people and to see someone like 50 going at him for the flimsiest of reasons just pisses you off.

It's like a kid in the playground who is constantly bullying other kids, eventually he ends up with some followers who enjoy the surplus of rewards (such as extra lunch money) that comes with hanging around him, but all the other kids hate him. If you think about it, a person who enjoys listening to 50's music, but also enjoys listening to say Ludacris' music MORE than 50's suddenly hears 50 going off at Luda for something trivial, well, maybe the fan thinks that he'll just stick with Luda from now on. The artists who 50 Cent is attacking are the favorite artists of some of his former fans out there.

Back to the album. It's not as if it's a horrific album as it doubled the score I gave Soulja Boy's albums. It's got some very good tracks like "Psycho", "So Disrespectful" (ok, a little bit hypocritical here, but 50 really stepped his game up on this one and it impressed me, despite the subject matter) and "Baby By Me" actually has a very good tongue-in-cheek vibe to it. It's the fact that there are so many average songs, songs that could be easily interchanged with something he recorded back in 2003 or even in the late 90s before he got signed, there's no artistic growth.

I knew he wasn't going to see big numbers like he has in the past, but only 150,000 in the first week? That's just over 20% of what Curtis did in the first week of sales! Honestly, I'm amazed and not surprised at the same time. It's a strange feeling.

To put a positive spin on things though, and if anyone talks to 50 Cent, feel free to let him use this excuse. The time he has been forced, due to the leak, to release the album isn't a good one. People are probably waiting for the Thanksgiving Sales or the Christmas Sales to buy an album at this point in time. I remember last year, Lil Wayne and T.I. saw increases of more than 50% their previous week's sales over the Thanksgiving week. I know I'm holding off buying things for a bit (although I bought Borderlands for the PS3 the other day and have been quite happily blowing the faces off Skags for a few days now) until the Christmas sales start to come through, so I'm certain that I'm not the only one in the world doing so.

So perhaps Before I Self Destruct will decrease, but see a sharp jump over Thanksgiving and Christmas. Who knows, it may actually hit Platinum by year-end.

The Signoff



Well, let the hate come in. I'm not a hater of 50 Cent in general, I'm just a hater of crap music. And if you read the review I wrote for it the other day, anyone who's read my 37th Chamber regularly will probably laugh as much as I did when someone said I'd much rather be reviewing the latest Black Eyed Peas album instead of 50 Cent's. To be honest, it's a tossup as to which I'd rather do more – listen to anything BEP related, or eat a light bulb.

With that, it's that time of the week again; I'll catch you all next week!

GUCCI!


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They need to bring back Celebrity Death match. A Soulja Boy vs Gucci Mane match would make my day.

Posted By: Da Lunchbox (Guest)  on November 21, 2009 at 01:08 AM

 
 
I almost thought of picking up the new 50, but I just can't...I know I'll be disappointed. While there are some occasional flashes of what made 'Get Rich..." great, I don't have enough confidence in 50 at this point to buy an album. I even downloaded that War Angel mixtape a few months ago, and just wasn't all that impressed. Stick to Vitamin Water, man. BTW, that Rakim/Maino track was heat...heard it on a mixtape (DJ Ski, maybe?) like 2 days ago. Definite headbanger...

Posted By: mr_carpenter1982 (Registered)  on November 21, 2009 at 09:30 AM

 
 
Dont know if anyone is aware, but they were gonna start N.W.A back up a few years back with Eazy E's son(Lil E) in his place. Fortunately, someone realized he sucks and now he's invisible again

Posted By: RED (Guest)  on November 21, 2009 at 11:38 AM

 
 
Quick question for all...what's the better Ghostface album--Fishscale or Supreme Clientele?

Posted By: mr_carpenter1982 (Registered)  on November 22, 2009 at 11:06 AM

 
 
I'd definetly eat a lightbulb. No Hesitation.

Posted By: Javier Garcia (Guest)  on November 22, 2009 at 05:54 PM

 
 
The difference between LL Cool J and Plies as a "ladies man" is that LL Cool J was a good looking man. Plus he has this little thing called "talent". He was good to both men & women for different reasons. He could spit of be sexy.

Plies songs aren't "sexy" per se just "sex". He has a song called Pretty P****. Look at that pic of him you used that shit had me laughing harder then the Ja Rule pic you used after the whole "Iphizzle" thing.


Posted By: Jesuszilla son of Godzilla (Guest)  on November 23, 2009 at 12:53 AM

 
 
I first heard the Roots when I was in my "concious rap" days. Things Fall apart was just released and it blew my mind away.

Organix: Some people LOVE this album and it was alot more relaxed and fun then the later releases. The best part of this album was listening to Questlove spit for the first time. 7.5/10

Do You Want More: The Roots were still finding themselves and this. I don't have this album anymore but I did like it. 8/10 a really good follow up

Illadelph Halflife: oh my God, for the longest I was calling it a classic but in retrospect I wouldn't go that far. With that being said I love this album. I remember thinking "this is the album that's gonna make them huge". the song with Common was sick. I will say this much I thought the first half of the album was better then the second half. but its still good and aged very well. 9/10

Things Fall Apart: One of my favorite Hip Hop albums ever. I knew the album was gonna be amazing when I saw the cover. I call this a forgotten classic because it seems like not many people remember this album. Of course to be fair after this album The Roots did alot of "mainstream" things (well thats what a friend of mine think I dont) so that probably expalins it. 10/10

Phronology: After what seemed like forever since their classic, I honestly didn't expect much. Thank God I was wrong. This album was creatize, funny, clever and the message still came through without being preachy. Also who doesn't like the hear Kweli and Black Thought go toe-to-toe. I remember replaying The Seed 1000 times its so catchy yet clever. 9.5/10 I wouldn't give it the full 10 because Quills and Water was kind of wack. Oh almost forgot I didnt even notice Nelly Futado on Sacirife.

The Tipping Point: With Phenology apparently they were trying to be more "mainstream" I can kind of see why. 7/10

Game Theory: A solid feautre heavy album I never finished listening to (borrowed it and never bought myself a copy) somehwere between 8-8.5/10 from what I heard.

Rising Down: Concept wise this album is pretty damn dark especially tracks 7-10. Another feautre heavy album where EVERYONE did their part. Style P shocked the hell out of me with his verse. Mos wasn't being lazy on the mic and of course Common did it. My favorite track tho is Rising Up. It was my first time hearing Wale and he held his won, and my Chrisette still looking beautful in the video (why no pics of her on HHH or 37th?) 9/10 its a great album that's dark so not for everyone

I love that their on Jimmy Fallon getting more exposure because they deserve it. Ever since then my younger Hip Hop friends who like Wayne, Plies etc have bought a Roots album and liked it.

Black Thought is one of the greatest lyricist ever.


Posted By: Jesuszilla son of Godzilla (Guest)  on November 23, 2009 at 01:13 AM

 
 
I just heard MURS & Slug Felt 3 (never heard the first 2) and its dope but it just proves my theory that Aesop Rock is a horrible producer.

I take "horrible" back but his production style bores me. He's a pretty good MC.


Posted By: The Rapper's Rapper (Guest)  on November 23, 2009 at 09:27 AM

 


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