The 411 Music Top Five 01.26.10: Top 5 Rebound Albums
Posted by Ben Czajkowski on 01.26.2010
From Radiohead's In Rainbows to U2's All You Can’t Leave Behind, Red Hot Chili Peppers's Californication to Johnny Cash's American Recordings, and Alice In Chains' Black Gives Way To Blue to Common's Be, the 411Music staff talks about their Top 5 favorite rebound albums! Stop in, read the lists, and leave your thoughts in the comment section!
Marshall Slayton
5. The Prodigy- Invaders Must Die.
There was a whole lot wrong with 2004's Always Outnumbered, Never Outgunned from The Prodigy, the worst sin being that it took 7 years to release it. It was the electronica group's most uninspired work to date, and clearly lacking most of the band members. Keith and Maxim were nowhere to be found, leaving Liam to make a solo album without a voice. Good thing he brought his guys back for 2009's Invaders Must Die, seeing The Prodigy back to healthier form and back to where they belong.
4. In Flames - Come Clarity. A disappointing In Flames album is like a burnt slice of pizza: you can still find a way to salvage it and consume the delicious parts. That's the way Soundtrack To Your Escape went, a rather slow album with some amazing fist-pumping tracks scattered about. Yet 2006's Come Clarity found In Flames at their most confident; it was a fully fleshed out album with no bad tracks, and turned out to be their first #1 album in Sweden. Even beautiful blue-eyed blondes know good music when they hear it.
3. Deftones - Saturday Night Wrist.
The self-titled Deftones album was perhaps the biggest disappointment in recent memory. That's not the kind of album you release after a masterpiece like White Pony, you either keep it on the cutting room floor or don't release it at all. The Deftones learned this lesson for Saturday Night Wrist, offering up some cleaner production, catchier songs, and some of the band's best lyrics in years. And Chino Moreno sounded more beautiful than ever.
2. Collective Soul - Youth.
After a long hiatus following disappointing albums like Dosage and Blender, Collective Soul should have continued their downward spiral, but something unexpected happened – they released a fantastic album with Youth. The four year break was exactly what the band needed to get themselves together and release an album that was great, through and through. It was an album for longtime fans as well as people unfamiliar with Collective Soul, and that's no small feat.
1. Radiohead - In Rainbows.
Radiohead was in question for a while after Amnesiac and Hail To The Thief, but the online-released In Rainbows laid all those concerns to rest. Radiohead was still capable of making a masterpiece of an album, even if it meant being liberated from their pesky record label. Songs like "Videotape," "All I Need," and "15 Step" show Radiohead at their best, which is a breath of fresh air since we hadn't seen them at their best in almost a decade.
Michael James
Honorable Mentions:
Jay-Z- American Gangster; Green Day- American Idiot; Nas- Stillmatic
5. Our Lady Peace – Gravity.
These Canadian rockers hit a pretty solid stride with their first two albums, Naveed and Clumsy, which spawned several modern rock hits, including "Superman's Dead." They lost their way a bit with albums three and four, before returning to form with 2002's Gravity. They reached their highest spot on the US album charts and added a few more hits to their track record, most notably "Innocent". Unfortunately the bounceback was short lived, as their next two albums have been terrible.
4. Raekwon – Only Built for Cuban Linx Part II.
Before 2009, most hip-hop fans had given up hope that Raekwon would ever release the long-promised sequel to his 1995 debut classic. I for one, was no longer sure if I even cared after his follow-up non-starters Immobilarity and The Lex Diamond Story. But release OBCL II Raekwon did, and he left his mark not only on hip-hop, but music in general. Thanks to a heavy dose of his familiar criminology, Raekwon found himself on nearly every Best of 2009 list (including #10 on 411's list, which is mighty solid in these metal-loving parts). While I actually don't consider OBCL II the artistic triumph of some of my peers (it was #26 on Best of list), there's no denying it re-launched Raekwon's career at a time when it seemed dormant.
3. Red Hot Chili Peppers- Californication.
By the summer of 1999, RHCP were in danger of becoming a modern rock footnote in the wake of the ill-conceived Dave Navarro experiment and the uneven album One Hot Minute. After being reunited with guitarist John Frusciante, the group reignited their career in a huge way with Californication and the monster hits "Scar Tissue," "Californication," "The Other Side," and "Around the World." Frusciante's guitar style remained a much better fit for the band than Navarro's darker stylings and the whole group sounded reinvigorated and in a happier place. With the recent news that Frusciante had again departed, it remains to be seen what comes next for RHCP.
2. Common- Be.
Two words explain why Common was in dire need of a bounceback when he hooked up with Kanye West for 2001's Be: Electric Circus. Another acceptable answer would be Erykah Badu, given her penchant for turning out rappers. Whether or not Badu is to blame for Electric Circus, Common really needed to get back in touch with his roots or risk possible irreversible damage to his credibility. Thankfully he got back together with his Chi-town homie Kanye West, and put together what may be his strongest album to date. Since then things have remained on an upwards trajectory, and the potential crisis seems to have been averted.
1. U2- All You Can't Leave Behind.
U2 spent most of the 1990s squandering the good will and star power they had amassed with The Joshua Tree and Achtung Baby on awkward explorations of electronica and dance music. Just as people were starting to forget how unbelievably talented they were, U2 released this 2000 juggernaut. The album was robbed of its rightful Album of the Year Grammy (Oh Brother Where Art Thou? Seriously?), but it nonetheless served to make U2 the biggest band in the world once again.
Lucas Wesley
I'm kind of using rebound and comeback interchangeably here, for I can only hope that's the point. And what is a comeback if not a prolonged rebound?
5. R.E.M. - Accelerate.
R.E.M. more or less stopped being awesome around 1998 when, for the firs time since they're early 80s inception, they suffered a line up change: drummer Bill Berry quit. After a dynamic that had been working for fifteen plus years suddenly shifts, its understandable that a little bit of adjustment time is needed. Aside from one really good single, R.E.M.'s adjustment period appeared to be about three albums (ten years). Finally, they made Accelerate, a rocking album that utilized guitar more than any of their albums (save Monster), but at the same time managed to find the catchy hooks that made them so popular in the 80s. Like many others, my faith is not completely restored, but at least now I know they can still make good albums on occasion.
4. Johnny Cash - American Recordings.
It's hard to call any album by a country musician a rebound. I considered a few Willie Nelson releases, too, but I had the same problem I'm having while trying to justify Cash: country musicians just make too many goddamn albums. How can I call something a rebound when its an impossibility for me to hear all of the albums that came before it? I'm not sure. But it's more or less an accepted fact that by teaming up with Rick Rubin and stripping down his sound to guitar and voice, the way it was at the beginning, Cash revitalized his career. And with great songs by the likes of Tom Waits, Kris Kristofferson, Leonard Cohen, Tom Waits and Loudon Wainwright III, Cash revitalized his career in style.
3. David Bowie - Heathen.
I wonder if chameleons ever make a mistake and show the wrong color at the wrong time. Okay, I've never wondered that until now, but when you have a guy called "The Chameleon of Rock," you make bad chameleon jokes. Bowie's recent chameleonic turns came close to dance music, industrial music, electronic music, and then finally easy listening music. I won't argue the pros and cons of all of these albums, but I will note that it's generally accepted that at least about four of them are awful. hours... in particular, though not the one that gets the most flack, is probably my least favorite. However, it was but one album later with Heathen that Bowie was kicking my ass again. I don't know if it was his return to doing a few covers per album or an attempt at a more traditional (for him) style, but this is a damn fine album, and it beats the hell out of anything he'd done in about 20 years.
2. Public Enemy - How You Sell Soul To A Soulless People Who Sold Their Soul???.
The longest career in rap is bound to have its bouts of stagnancy. It's possible that even the most ardent Public Enemy fans couldn't name a single song between He Got Game and this album, which has a very long title. But when PE come back, they do so in style. Particularly, there's the song "Harder Than You Think," which is more or less a dirge about just what it means to be the longest running successful rap group. Every song hits in ways PE previously had been failing, and it brings them back to their glory in spades. Public Enemy number one indeed.
1. Yoko Ono - Rising.
The most vilified woman in the history of music. Not really relevant, but something I always need to throw out there when I mention Yoko, as a preemptive strike against all the angry comments I'm bound to receive. Even as a fan of Yoko's music, I must acknowledge that shortly after John's death, she lost whatever good thing she had. It's understandable; her mind was elsewhere. But very little can explain Starpeace to me. Perhaps the cheesiest album of the 80s (what a feat!), Starpeace is the kind of album that creates the kind of reputation that Yoko has. After that disaster, she gave herself a ten year rest from the music industry. But when she came back, with the help of Sean Lennon's band, IMA, she was ready to rock out. Rising is perhaps Yoko's most accessible solo album, and I recommend it to everyone who hates her. You'll just hate her more, I'm sure, for that is your way, but at least now you have a reference point. Or maybe, just maybe, you'll see what I see in her and forgive all her imagined sins and let her into your heart. Peace and love, everybody.
Paul Hollingsworth
Honorable Mentions:
Neil Diamond - 12 Songs, Metallica - Death Magnetic, Kiss- Revenge, AC/DC - Back In Black
5. Tina Turner - Private Dancer.
After years away from the spotlight (and Ike), no one was really sure what to expect from Turner's 1984 release. As it turned out, it was one of the best albums of her career (with or without Ike) and a fitting showcase of one of the most powerful voices in rock and roll. Everybody knows the hits like the title track and "What's Love Got To Do With It", but there is no filler on the album. It's a complete work, and arguably the best thing Turner has ever done.
4. Loretta Lynn - Van Lear Rose.
Somehow in 2004, Jack White found time to rescue Lynn from oblivion and return her to her rightful place as the queen of country music. Lynn and White knocked this one out of the park. There aren't many records of any genre that are as personal, heartfelt and real as this one. Even people who don't like country can get into this album. If you can't, then I have to assume you just don't like good music.
3. U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind.
Most of the things U2 did in the 90's were interesting, I suppose, but bore little resemblance to the band who released Under A Blood Red Sky and Boy back in the early 80's. This album brought back the notion of U2 as a group who loved to play their music together. The experimental stage of their career was over, it seemed, and although subsequent albums have been hit and miss, they got this one right.
2. Johnny Cash - American Recordings.
In the 80's, lots of big stars had problems keeping up with the times. Drum machines, keyboards and synthesizers became the rage and suddenly a man with a acoustic guitar was reduced to being a relic. The country stars of the 60's and 70's fared even worse than the pop stars. Country radio was overtaken by pop-country, and legends like Cash were left behind. Then, this record happened, which featured Cash's voice and guitar and little in the way of studio trickery, and all at once, everybody realized that 'old style' country was a hundred times better than anything that had been on the radio in the last twenty years.
1. Alice In Chains - Black Gives Way To Blue.
I didn't expect to ever hear a new AiC song in my lifetime, much less a good one. So when an album full of good ones, with a new lead singer, no less, appears out of the blue (so to speak) its cause for celebration. AiC was my favorite of the grunge bands back in college, but when Layne Staley died, I figured, like 99.9 percent of the population, that the band was done. Somehow, Jerry Cantrell found another singer who could not embarrass himself singing the classic AiC stuff and add another layer to the new stuff. The music world is a better place for having a vibrant and relevant AiC.
The Final Word
As always, the last thoughts come from you, the reader. We're merely unpaid monkeys with typewriters and Wikipedia. Here's what you need to do: List your Top Five for this week's topic on the comment section using the following format:
5. Artist - Album: Why you picked it. 4. Artist - Album: Why you picked it. 3. Artis - Albumt: Why you picked it. 2. Artist - Album: Why you picked it. 1. Artis - Albumt: Why you picked it.
Saturday Night Wrist a comeback album? The Deftones self-titled album a major disappointment? Did we listen to the same two albums here?
I agree that their eponymous album wasn't on par with White Pony at all, but Saturday Night Wrist is one of the worst records I've ever heard from a band that I respect so much. Something apparently got lost in translation.
Posted By: LRoq (Guest) on January 25, 2010 at 11:18 PM
#1 Neil Young's FREEDOM.
#2 Kinks- Misfits
#3 Bruce- The Rising
#4 Rolling Stones- Some Girls
#5 Yes- 90125
Posted By: Jim (Guest) on January 25, 2010 at 11:26 PM
Death Magnetic FTW. These other albums listed suck compared to this.
Posted By: Guest#2586 (Guest) on January 25, 2010 at 11:31 PM
How about Metallica- Death Magnetic? A successful return to their roots after a string of poor albums (Load, Reload, St Anger).
Or how about Motley Crue- Saints of Los Angeles?
Posted By: Guy (Guest) on January 25, 2010 at 11:49 PM
5. Red Hot Chili Peppers: Californication
4. Bruce Springsteen: The Rising
3. U2: All That You Can't Leave Behind
2. Green Day: American Idiot
1. Bob Dylan: Time Out of Mind
Posted By: matt (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 12:10 AM
There's some interesting stuff here, but I feel like it's all too short, and there's no real criteria to define "rebound," leading to uneven and odd lists.
On a personal note, as much as I like Gravity, Our Lady Peace actually peaked with the two albums before it. Happiness and Spiritual Machines are just about masterpieces as far as modern rock goes.
Posted By: Guest#8532 (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 12:20 AM
Gravity was anything but a return to form for Our Lady Peace. As he usually does, Bob Rock ruined another great band with his shitty production and, unfortunately, Our Lady Peace has never recovered.
Posted By: Michael Tyner (Registered) on January 26, 2010 at 03:02 AM
5. Guns and Roses-Chinese Democracy
4. Guns and Roses-Chinese Democracy
3. Guns and Roses-Chinese Democracy
2. Guns and Roses-Chinese Democracy
and, number one
1. Guns and Roses-Chinese Democracy
Posted By: Guest#2268 (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 03:11 AM
5. Nine Inch Nails- Year Zero. After With Teeth, Trent needed to do something bold, and bold is what we got.
4. Tool- Lateralus. Only #4 because it wasn't so much a rebound as a 5-years-in-the-making followup to AEnima. Fucking brilliant.
3. Guns 'n.... HAHAHA sorry I can't even say it with a straight internet face. Let's go with NOFX- Pump Up the Valuum. After "SLATFATS" they needed a boost and we got it.
2. Metallica- Death Magnetic. Despite shoddy production (see: Loudness war column) this album is everything we should have been getting since 1991.
1. Alice in Chains- Black Gives Way to Blue. I gotta agree with the above columnist. Any band that takes 13 years off and puts out an album this good gets the #1 spot by default.
Posted By: James (Registered) (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 04:56 AM
1. Aerosmith: Permanent Vacation; jump started a brand new era for these guys. Amazed no one mentioned it.
2. LL Cool J: Mama Said Knock You Out
Believe it or not, back in the 90s rappers still worried about "street cred" and selling out. LL's Walking With a Panther killed him with the B-Boys of NYC. Mama brought him back.
3&4: Rolling Stones; Tattoo You, Steel Wheels.
The Stones desparately needed a jump start after Emotional Rescue and Tattoo You provided it. Then after Mick and Keith went their separate ways for a while in the 80s, Steel Wheels gave them another boost. It arguably began the era of "The Legacy Act" i.e. old bands that can get away with so-so cds and then take in millions on tour.
5. Mariah Carey: The Emancipation of Mimi. Glitter nearly killed Carey, but Emancipation put her back on top. (Of course right now she's back in a slump, so Mimi II might be necessary)
Honorable Mention: Dr Dre: Eminem, "The Slim Shady LP"
After leaving (escaping?) Death Row, Andre Young renounced gangsta rap and put out Dr Dre Presents..The Aftermath. Aftermath was a new label and this was a compilation meant to showcase his new signings. It flopped badly. Then he discovered this kid from Detroit...and the rest is history.
Posted By: Sethj88 (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 09:26 AM
Is In Rainbows considered a rebound album simply because the future of Radiohead was in question or because Marshall thinks Hail to the Thief was bad album? I thought Hail to the Thief was a great album so I can only assume the former.
Other ideas..
Rise Against - The Sufferer and the Witness. After they jumped to a major label Rise Against released "Siren Song..." which was a complete disappointment. It was good to see that they can still write some great music. Appeal to Reason is pretty solid too.
Definitely Death Magnetic.
Iron Maiden's Brave New World and Death of Dance are good rebound albums after the hit or miss X Factor/Virtual XI albums. Not as good as their 80s albums but still solid albums with some great songs.
Posted By: Billy (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 09:45 AM
Fuck Metallica. Shave your mullets and move out of your moms basements.
Posted By: Neo JJ (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 10:13 AM
The first Soulfly was by no means bad but the follow up to that one, 2000's Primitive, far exceeded anything that a fan could hope for from these guys, let's just hope they are able to bump back from 2008's lackluster effort, Conquer. With rumors circulating that a cover of Sepultura's Refuse/Resist is in the works, this looks to be interesting to say the least. I am still unsure how someone is supposed to cover their own song, but I am sure it will be good.
Posted By: Squid Vicious (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 11:57 AM
Here are some of my favs:
Meatloaf--Bat out of Hell 2: The ultimate in rebound albums (or would it be comeback albums), this reminded fans of why Meatloaf was so awesome to begin with. It's amazing that this album did so well in the MTV age, but it was a great album.
Iron Maiden--Brave New World: While I liked X Factor, many didn't b/c Blaze just wasn't Bruce--and Virtual XI was a mess. However, with BNW, Maiden truly showed that they were back with a force. While both Dance of Death and Matter of Life & Death are superior albums overall, BNW set the tone.
Metallica--Death Magnetic: I actually thought Load & Reload were serviceable albums that would have made for a truly awesome single album if they cut down on the filler. However, St. Anger was just plain shit. But in 2008, Metallica proved that they were clearly back, with an album that combined both the heaviness of their early days and the melody of the Black Album era. More than any album since Justice, it sounded like classic Metallica.
Kiss--Revenge: More than many, I liked Kiss in the 80's, but even I have to admit that their albums were hit & miss. However, Revenge showed that the band had its balls back, with the more ferocious sound since the 70's.
Posted By: Michael L (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 12:05 PM
Death Magnetic 1#
Posted By: Guest#5814 (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 12:53 PM
Death Magnetic for sure. I shudder when I hear St. Anger and rock out when I hear anything off of Death Magnetic. Relapse, while not Eminem's greatest was way better than anythng off of Encore.
Posted By: JM (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 01:49 PM
Chronic 2001
Posted By: Guest#6458 (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 02:23 PM
Radiohead has never ever needed a "rebound" recoud because they have never release a bad album. And thats the truth ..ruth!!!! lol
Posted By: Diablopepe (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 03:49 PM
in rainbows being on that list is a joke, if you don't fade away you can't have a comeback....
Posted By: jags (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 03:55 PM
wow i think Back in Black was a pretty big rebound album after Bon Scott's death...they came back swingin wit dat one
Posted By: Guest#3316 (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 03:57 PM
Machine Head- The Blackening
could go to empires, but it's more like that paved the way for their return after burning red and supercharger
Posted By: Jcon (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 04:30 PM
Deftones' self-titled album is better than SNW by LEAPS AND BOUNDS. Sorry, but it's not even close.
Posted By: Ib (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 04:51 PM
Electric Cirus was a great album.
Posted By: Chungles (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 05:19 PM
How was 'In Rainbows' a rebound album? 'Amnesiac' and 'Hail To The Thief' were both tremendous albums, and I dont thin that the validity of Radiohead was in any doubt at all.
Posted By: Guest#3911 (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 06:25 PM
I'm really having a hard time thinking of any bands that went from putting out great albums, going to crap, and then returning to near the level they used to be at. There's plenty that went the way of Metallica where they put out crap and then put out an album which is significantly better than the last few--but Death Magnetic absolutely pales in comparison to their best work.
The few I can think of--Chilis with Californication. Faith No More--Album of the Year. Fuel (didn't sell much with the new singer, but made their most consistent album yet, and WAY better than Natural Selection). Can't think of any others. If a band starts going downhill, their creative peak usually can't be repeated.
Posted By: Commie (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 06:56 PM
Saturday Night Wrist a comeback album? The Deftones self-titled album a major disappointment? Did we listen to the same two albums here?
^ i couldn't have said it better
5. Guns and Roses-Chinese Democracy
4. Guns and Roses-Chinese Democracy
3. Guns and Roses-Chinese Democracy
2. Guns and Roses-Chinese Democracy
and, number one
1. Guns and Roses-Chinese Democracy
Posted By: Guest#2268 (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 03:11 AM
^is he for real??
my personal choices:
5. radiohead-in rainbows
4. 311-uplifter
3. green day-american idiot
2. the black crowes-warpaint
1. jane's addiction-strays
Posted By: Csonkamaniac III (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 08:09 PM
Red Hot Chili Peppers- Californication was the sound of several elderly gentlemen giving up and selling out. A sad, pathetic piece of shit that the masses embraced with all their stupidity. Good work sheeple.
Posted By: Ebert Jr (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 09:02 PM
Either Lucas Wesley doesn't like country as a whole, or he's seven years old. Yes, Johnny Cash has a lot of albums out if you just go to Amazon and look at titles, but you have to consider two things - his career spanned 5+ decades (and counting) and even his "deep cuts" would be worthy of some artists' greatest hits albums. That's why, if you look at the track listings, you'll see a lot of those albums are compilations of songs that had already appeared on other releases. So it's not Johnny Cash's fault you "can't hear all of the albums that came before it" - it's a combination of his record labels milking his name for money and you're unwillingness to actually make an attempt.
Whew. Glad I got that out of my system, but you don't take shots at the most influential artist of all time and, worse yet, lump him in with the rest of an entire genre that's becoming steadily more diluted by the day (hello, Taylor Swift!).
That said, if "rebound" is stretched to mean "comeback", then yes, American Recordings definitely deserves to be on there, for the reasons mentioned by Paul Hollingsworth, who gets a double kudos for mentioning Van Lear Rose.
Posted By: Wyatt Beougher (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 09:12 PM
* Painkiller - Judas Priest. It well and truly apologised for Turbo and Ram It Down. Death Magnetic needed to be as good as Painkiller to apologise for St. Anger, Load and Reload. It's good, but it's not in the same league.
* Trash - Alice Cooper. This brought Alice Cooper back.
Posted By: WadeMcG (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 09:33 PM
To Michael L:
I agree completely with you about Meat, Kiss and Maiden.
I also forgot to mention Santana: Supernatural and Prince:Musicology.
Two old pros get their mojo back.
Posted By: Sethj88 (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 11:22 PM
Also two others:
Ozzy's Blizzard of Oz!
Yes it was his debut solo, but after the so-so last Black Sabbath albums he had a lot of image rebuilding to do.
And finally...Deep Purple, Perfect Strangers! Mark II manages to coexist long enough to get back on the metal charts alongside the young kids.
Posted By: Sethj88 (Guest) on January 26, 2010 at 11:25 PM
i'm changing my #1.
IN MY OPINION californication sucked commercial dick, and by the way was terrible. stadium arcadium is my favorite rebound album. john frusciante's best work and fitting swan song to his tenure with the band.
Posted By: Csonkamaniac III (Guest) on January 27, 2010 at 11:10 PM
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