411 Music Fact or Fiction 10.19.12: All I Hear Is Doom And Gloom
Posted by Joseph Lee on 10.19.2012
What did we think of The Rolling Stones' new single "Doom and Gloom"? Should the world move on from Chris Brown's attack on Rihanna? Is Eddie Van Halen the greatest guitarist ever? 411's Mikey MiGo and Jeff Modzelewski answer these questions and more!
Welcome to another edition of Fact or Fiction: Music. I'm your host, Joseph Lee.
This week we have Jeff Modzelewski against Mikey MiGo.
It sounds like a song that you've already heard a million times. I bet if you told someone this song was a thirty year old B-side they'd believe you. It has great rhythm and a nice full classic rock sound. It sounds a little like a Rolling Stone cover band covering a Vines song. It's still not bad at all though. It's nothing I'd write home about and it's not going to make me run out and buy any of their stuff. By the end of it, I'm ready to be done with it.
Jeff Modzelewski: FACT.
Surprisingly, yeah I did. Mick Jagger sounds pretty decent still, and I like the stripped down feel of Richards' guitar. I'm not gonna go out and buy the album, but I enjoy this tune more than I enjoyed the Stones' last effort. A little bluesy, a little garage-band sounding, and frankly a lot better than much of the music out there today.
I think we all have a general feeling about these kinds of lists. If we agree then they are right, but if we disagree then they are discredited. It's all subjective. The folks who put this list together think Eddie Van Halen is the top guitarist of all time. I don't agree. When I think of Eddie's playing I think of the same 80's solo style. Granted, he's AMAZING at what he does he's just not know for range. I tend to lean towards a blues rock based player like an Eric Clapton and Jimi Hendrix. It's a better balance of mind blowing skill and artistic soul.
Jeff Modzelewski: FICTION.
Not even close. Not even a little bit. Eddie Van Halen is a great technical guitarist who shoehorns his solos into songs. A great guitarist is just as comfortable ripping a huge solo as he is jamming on a single chord. Jimi Hendrix was better. Jimmy Page is better. I'd also take Keith Richards, Joe Perry, Dimebag Darrell, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Chuck Berry, Eric Clapton, the list goes on. Check out Duane Allman's work, and not just with the Allman Brothers. Van Halen is your guy if you enjoy musical masturbation, but frankly I can do without it.
When was the last time Pink was in a headline for something other than her relationships or big choreography moments at award shows (or in this video)? I actually sat down and listened to every Pink album and reviewed them in my "First Impression" series a while back. She has tons of talent and doesn't seem to stick to any specific style for too long. She's constantly evolving, but at the same time she sticks to the same themes of "struggle" and "rebellion" a bit too much. This new song sucks. The emotion behind it is apparent, but lyrically it's not that great and there is nothing musically about it that makes you care. The video is her and some ripped dude fighting and being passionate, but it's all done with crazy choreography and dance. It's really impressive and should be at least seen and appreciated once. As hot as she is and as talented as she is, the "Roller Derby Girl/'Punk Rawk' meets Cirque du Soleil" thing is getting tiresome.
Jeff Modzelewski: FICTION.
First off, I find it funny that you ask about the song for the Rolling Stones, but the video for Pink. Shows you who's actually making music. In response to the question, though, I actually thought they did a good job with the video. The dancing was impressive, and I'm a guy who really doesn't care about dancing. But this is just as good or better than a lot of the stuff I've seen when my wife makes me watch "So You Think You Can Dance." Plus Pink choakslammed the guy through a table, which was pretty cool. On top of that the song isn't bad either, at least for a Pink song. There certainly seemed to be some "artistic integrity" in the video, and I appreciate that, even if it's not my thing.
Seeing as I've never heard of Gucci Mane until now, I'm obviously not interested. In the Wikipedia article about this guy the "Legal Issues" section is almost as long as the Biography section. And he's releasing 10 albums in a year. Good luck with that, dude.
Mikey MiGo: FACT.
I'm not going to lie. I had to look up who Gucci Mane was. I take in A LOT of music of many genres, but Gucci Mane has never been on my radar. I know the name, but I couldn't pick the dude's face, voice, or any songs out of a line up. I skimmed through his wiki page and I STILL don't connect him to anything I've heard. Maybe he's great, who knows. Even the biggest of names in hip hop like a Jay Z, Kanye West, or Lil Wayne wouldn't be as bold to release TEN albums in one year. Does anyone appreciate the "quality over quantity" theory anymore?
Look, Brown didn't just push or even smack Rihanna in a heat of the moment type of thing. That would be bad enough, but at least it would be sort of understandable. He beat the holy hell out of this girl. If she wants to go back to him, that's her own stupidity, but screw this idea that everyone should just "get over" it. It's a free country, and if she wants to be with a guy who's already sent her to the hospital, then there's nothing that can be done about it. But don't expect there to be a bunch of celebrations just because she's making a stupid decision.
Mikey MiGo: FICTION.
The world can do whatever it wants. That said, so can Chris Brown and Rihanna. If she wants to live out the plot of a Lifetime movie then it's her business. At the same time, she can't put herself out there and expect people to not worry about it or even lose respect for her for putting herself in a very compromising position. No one knows what happens behind closed doors between these two. All we know is what the police reports said and the outbursts he has had in very public arenas. Things COULD be great for all we know and that one isolated incident is past them. Hopefully she realizes that things work out like that in only like 0.001% of all Lifetime movies though.
Why is Kanye considered a rap/hip-hop genius? There's nothing that good here. It's not bad, but it's pretty similar to everything else out there, and Kanye is supposed to be the top dog. As usual with this guy, I'll take a pass.
Mikey MiGo: FACT.
I'm starting to think the word "unimpressed" rhymes with Kanye West for a reason. There is nothing special about this song. In fact it comes off a bit bland and uninspired compared to how far he'd take himself and his art in the past. I can already imagine bland and uninspired douche bags sloppily singing along to the lyrics as if there is any substance at all. I'm fairly certain Kanye West is plotting something. He released some huge albums and made himself one of the biggest stars in entertainment. His antics would get him some flack, but in the long run all it did was make his name known to more and more people. Then it seems like out of nowhere that he decided to be the Robin to Jay Z's Batman. He seems to come off as if he lives to serve Jay Z. It's gotten really really sad. Kanye West lost his identity… or DID HE? He's not a dumb man by any stretch so one must wonder if he's up to something. Is he trying to sneak in there, see what Jay Z is doing, and then BAM! Takeover! Almost like he knows that Jay Z is the king right now so he's doing this grand "now the student IS the teacher" type of scheme. Hmmm….
Score Card: 6 for 6
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