411 Fact or Fiction Music 11.30.12: Rolling Stones, Rihanna, More
Posted by Joseph Lee on 11.30.2012
Is the Rolling Stones' new music video any good? Do we want to see Velvet Revolver get back together? Were we impressed with Rihanna's new album? 411's Tony Acero and Joseph Lee debate these questions and more in this week's 411 Fact or Fiction: Music!
Welcome to another edition of Fact or Fiction: Music. I'm your host, Joseph Lee.
This week we have myself against Tony Acero. It was supposed to be David Hayter, but he wasn't able to this week. You'll see him next week.
Man, what's not to like! Ya got a whole bunch of shit breaking, some puking, head-exploding, and a few tit shots. Atop of all this, you got Mick Jagger being Mick Fucking Jagger. I have always enjoyed watching that big lipped man do what he's gotta do. It's nuts how old these guys are and how well they can still pull this off. Sure, there were some political under(over?)tones in the music video but as far as enjoyment, I had it in spades. Bad ass enough to enjoy. Get em, Mick.
Joseph Lee: FACT.
Outside of a topless Noomi Rapace (who is just beautiful), I did like this video. It reflects the insanity of the lyrics of the song which really don't have much of a point. I like how the video literally shows every word of the verses coming to life. Mick mentions zombies, you see zombies. He talks about piloting a plane, you see Noomi piloting a plane. It's kind of silly but it works for this song and video.
No Rihanna album is anything special, and she churns these things out far too fast. I actually applauded her efforts on Talk That Talk. It had a lot of energy and was pretty fun, for at least half of the album. Yes, it was still pop fodder, but it was energetic. This album, however, is just meh. There's also the added element of the Chris Brown factor which isn't everywhere, but just blatant enough to bother me as a listener. If Rihanna wants to forgive him, that's on her; he's still a douche with anger issues. Back to the statement; yes, it wasn't anything special.
Joseph Lee: FACT.
Everything Rihanna makes can fit this statement. She's never really made any music that was special. She's generic pop at its absolute worst, and it gets bad that she won't stay out of the scene long enough to make anyone forget her. If she didn't have a turbulent personal life, not as many people would care. There are good pop musicians, but Rihanna is not one of them. She's too produced. I can never tell if the music is actually her or the studio, but I'm guessing its more of the latter.
I didn't know who the hell Corey Taylor was until I looked him up. Slipknot ain't my bag, baby, but that's irrelevant considering the statement - which I fully agree with. Dubstep is a growing trend in all music, as they tend to want to infuse it more and more. Heck, even Taylor Swift has a bit of it on her new album. The issue I have it is that it's more of a headache inducing "musical" attempt of synthesization than anything else, and comes off as both annoying and jarring to the ear. I have tried, time and time again, to give it a chance, but in short: it's ridiculously repetitive. Most songs are 6 minutes long due to the addition of one layer after another, with each as annoying as the one previous.
Joseph Lee: FACT.
I thought dubstep was tired when it first hit the mainstream. I would say when it first arrived but I don't' like it so actually have no idea when the genre began. I have liked exactly one dubstep track and that's the one that Muse did, because it tried something different and sounded more natural. I tend to not like techno either, and I think dubstep is just a progression of that. Maybe that sounds uninformed, but I do know that every time I hear the music I turned off whatever it's play on, if I can.
I enjoyed Outkast, and will likely enjoy seeing both guys continue their solo careers. I wouldn't call myself necessarily excited, but I will give it a listen, which is more than I can say for a large portion of hip-hop acts. It just isn't my thing outside of a handful of artists. Big Boi and Andre 3000 are two of those people.
Tony Acero: FACT.
In terms of Outkast, Andre 3000 is my boi! Nothing against Big Boi, I just like Andre's style a bit more. Regardless of such, I have heard a few snippets of the tracks on the new album, and yeah man, I'm pretty excited. His guest features seem notable, and I want to see what he can do with various partners. Just because I like Andre doesn't mean I dislike Big Boi, and after seeing him perform live not too long ago, I have a newfound respect for him. Anyone that sounds similar live as they do on their tracks gets an immediate high five by me.
Kravitz can actually sing, and he's not a bad actor, but I just don't know if he can pull off an entire full-length film on his own. Don't get me wrong, he's pretty good in Precious and The Hunger Games from what I can tell, but there's a difference between showing up in a supporting role and carrying a film on your own. I'm more than willing to give him a chance, but right now I'm going to say that the producers could have picked someone better.
Tony Acero: FACT.
Lenny has a few things going as a choice for the role; he can sing, he is not an actor that is recognized as anyone but Lenny Kravitz or Cinna, and he's got a similar build to Gaye. The singing aspect is important because - you know - Marvin Gaye was a singer. The fact that he is somewhat unrecognizable to a majority of the movie going public means they won't be depending on a caricature or casttype that a Denzel would give off. He's similar to casting an "unknown" for a musician. Lastly, I don't think he's given us any reason NOT to trust him in the role.
A lot of people like to hate on Velvet Revolver and I'm not sure why. Are they as good as STP? No. Are they as good as Guns and Roses used to be? Hell no. But they're a serviceable rock band in their own right, with Scott Weiland's unique voice carrying them over all of the pretenders that are in radio right now. I'd much rather listen to a Velvet Revolver album than the next Hinder or My Darkest Day release.
Tony Acero: FICTION.
Unfortunately for readers that expect an in-depth answer for this particular question, they're just not my type of music. I know i just said I enjoyed the Stones, and Slash is pretty bad ass on the ax, but I'd be a fool to attempt to pretend to know or care too much about Velvet Revolver. With that being said, I can't honestly proclaim that I want to see them get back together.
Score Card: 4 for 6
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