411 Fact or Fiction Music 12.28.12: Living In Excess
Posted by Joseph Lee on 12.28.2012
Is Frank Ocean's Channel Orange the best album of the year? Would it be silly to put The Beatles on British currency? Are we interested in a new album from Avenged Sevenfold? 411's Tony Acero and Joseph Lee debate these topics and more!
Welcome to another edition of Fact or Fiction: Music. I'm your host, Joseph Lee.
This week we have the guys with bizarre last names: Tony Acero against Joseph Lee.
A$AP Rocky is one of the weaker hip-hop artists out there, and he embodies everything that's wrong with the genre. Rap can be good to listen to. Big Boi, Kanye West (at times), Jay-Z (earlier in his career) and Eminem are all fairly big names with music I enjoy listening to. But then there are the rappers that do nothing but talk about their excesses. Kanye and Jay-Z even fall victim to this, but it's the lesser ones that do it all the time. It's old. We get it, you have material goods. This is what A$AP Rocky is, and it's not good.
Tony Acero: FACT.
I'm not a fan of A$AP in general, so it was rather difficult to enjoy the video. With that being said, I tried to watch the video on its own, without prior apathy for the artist involved and it's nothing groundbreaking or breathtaking. It's simply a video that I'll likely not watch again, meaning it did absolutely nothing for me. Since the question pertaining specifically to the video, then I'll simply say that no, I was not a fan.
Any musician, no matter how large, would be silly to add to currency. I get how big the Beatles are in the UK and how important they are to the culture. But I also know that WIlliam Shakespeare and Winston Churchill are also being considered. If It were me, I'd pick Churchill over Lennon. It'd be like America throwing Elvis Presley on a new form of currency. Elvis is important to our culture, but is as important as Lincoln or Washington to the country? I think not.
Tony Acero: FACT.
Although admittedly, I don't care. I liken this to American currency and how it is specific to American historical figures in a political ideology, not a celebrity. Then again, they also have sports stars on the list of possibilites as well. In the grand scheme of things, this is probably something that we really shouldn't care or worry about, but since the question is posed, then it seems silly to this yankee.
A7X are not my favorite band in metal or hard rock, but I do enjoy them. I really liked Nightmare and I'm one of the ones who like the newer, more refined sound over their early stuff. I'm interested to see where they go from here as their music continues to evolve.
Tony Acero: FICTION.
Avenged has never been my cup of tea, so I have no interest in a new album. I know more about them than most heavy metal bands due to them starting out in Huntington Beach, a city only about 20 minutes away. Still, that's about all I know about them. Judging by what I've read, people are excited about the album, but it's not like they've been out of the music world for a long time, with their last album coming out like only a year ago. I'm not interested, but there are those that are and I hope they enjoy.
This is about as surprising as me giving up Mountain Dew, but the fact is that Frank Ocean - in one album - not only separated himself from the atrocious pack that is known as "Odd Future," but also produced a great album while doing it. Channel Orange is a surprisingly soothing album that keeps the tone the same throughout while not sounding boring. It is deep when it needs to be and simple when it wants to be. I'm still in awe that this album is getting love and moreso that I'm one of those critics.
Joseph Lee: FICTION.
I enjoy Frank Ocean, don't get me wrong. I liked his work on Watch the Throne and I like what material I have heard from him. But I've unfortunately not listened to Channel Orange. I'm subbing for someone else, so I'm sure I would have listened to it if not doing it at the last minute. But even then, it's going to take a lot to knock out Jack White's Blunderbuss, which is my choice for #1.
Eh, I didn't mind it. I mean, it wasn't some AMAZING song that is going to turn Blink fans into Yelawolf fans and vice versa, but it's perfect song for an EP, which is exactly what it is. They experimented, and it worked out I think. Yela shows the issue that he somehow almost does and that's his difficulty to stay on the beat, but it's nice to see both groups leaving their comfort zones.
Joseph Lee: FACT.
I stopped caring about Blink around 2004, and never really got back into them. I think they lost "it", whatever "it" is. But that's neither here nor there as we're talking about the merits of them working with Yelawolf. I still don't think the two work together well. It starts out as a lesser Blink song and then Yelawolf comes in 2/3s through to throw out some generic rhymes. No thanks.
Although it sounds like a fun line up, I'm not impressed because I don't care. Although this is all for a good cause, and the film will hopefully shed some light on people who are wrongfully accused, the soundtrack is simply just...there. It's a mix of covers and older songs that we are familiar with, but a majority of them aren't for me.
Joseph Lee: FACT.
Yeah it's quite the impressive lineup. Nick Cave, Eddie Vedder, Bob Dylan...even Marilyn Manson's random cover of "You're So Vain" ends up on there. It's certainly an eclectic listen, but the lineup includes some talented individuals. Even Johnny Depp shows up three or four times. Bizarre.
Score Card: 3 for 6
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