411 Fact or Fiction Music 01.18.13: Bowie's In Space
Posted by Joseph Lee on 01.18.2013
Is the newly-released Jimi Hendrix song "Somewhere" worthy of being in his catalog? Are we excited for a new David Bowie album? What did we think of Justin Timberlake's comeback single? 411's Mark Radulich and Mikey MiGo debate these topics and more in this week's Fact or Fiction: Music!
Welcome to another edition of Fact or Fiction: Music. I'm your host, Joseph Lee.
This week we have Mikey MiGo taking on Mark Radulich.
I was trying to be as objective as I could but the best word I could use to describe this single was, "meh." It was just there. It felt like one of those songs bands put out because they have to, not because it is any sort of reflection of their talent. Maybe it's just me but I thought he was better than this effort.
Mikey MiGo: FICTION.
It's hard to judge a pop song on merit because they're often so disposable. Some of Timberlake's past work has crossed the line from being a "disposable pop song" to being a "modern pop classic". I don't think "Suit & Tie" measures up to be one of those songs, but that doesn't mean it's bad. I read on this very site that the song is his biggest sale debut ever. To most folks, if music makes money then it's successful. By that account, sure… it's a success. It's been six years since "SexyBack" came out. I remember when it came out that not many people took it seriously, but once it got popular it became the biggest thing at the moment. To say JT has more fans now than then would be an understatement. He has been in popular movies and has secured his place in the A-list. He proved he was more than a part of a boy band with a few hit solo singles. This all leads to higher expectations and blind followers. I think this is only part of the reason this track sold so much. The other reason is that pop music kind of sucks right now. I'm all about hearing this album, but this song was not my cup of tea. A dated sounding pop song with Jay-Z showing up for a called-in verse is all pop music fans need now to get excited.
Sure. They great when they were together and I know their music made a lot of people happy. Reunions are usually fun and it is a great opportunity to get some of the younger folks into the band.
Mikey MiGo: FACT.
I'm not a fan at all, but this is good. Beyonce has to be one of the most overrated pop performers of all time. She's talented and folks find her attractive, but what has she really done to blow anyone's mind? That song about putting a "ring on it"? I don't get the mass appeal. That said, I'm a fan of when groups I don't like get back together. Basically, it's the "two piles of shit" theory. The music of Destiny's Child is one big pile of shit. When it's not together it means there are one big pile of Beyonce shit to avoid and then two smaller piles from the other ladies to avoid as well. It's easier to avoid one big pile than smaller spread out piles. That said, this is going to be the worst Super Bowl Halftime show ever.
I'm not the world's biggest Sevendust fan but this was actually pretty good. It had a good, heavy beat that I head bang to. I found myself grooving to it, What more can you ask for?
Mikey MiGo: FACT.
Oddly enough, I've been on a Sevendust kick lately. I spent about a half hour last week attempting to convince a friend how underrated and awesome Sevendust has always been. LJ's voice is amazing and they're one of the best hard rock bands to come out in the past twenty five years. I'm a fan of this genre of music, but I always felt things were a little uneven. As much as I like bands like Godsmack, I always felt Sevendust was AT LEAST as good as them. It's just their songs don't sound as good in action movie trailers so it seems they never got their big big break. Regardless of their fame and regardless if I can convince friends to love them as much as I do… they rock. "Decay" isn't their best song or anything, but it's better than 99% of the "rock music" out there today. If there has ever been a time that needs good hard rock music with actual substance it's probably now.
Johnny Marr saying they "invented indie" is the least "indie" thing I've heard of in a while. Are they a big influence on "indie rock"? Sure. Are they responsible for anything other than their own work? Not at all. To pin point when a certain music scene starts is always subjective. No one can ever agree. Some folks think Nirvana was the start of "grunge", but other bands in the same vein were around first. This is the same for all genres. The Smith's musical style, ironic lyrics, and whole "too cool for school" image could easily be considered the roots of "indie rock". Instead their actual influence on "the scene" is cheapened by a blatant attempt at sucking in the hipsters to buy Marr's latest solo album.
Mark Radulich: FACT.
Sure. The Smiths were probably one of the most famous indie rock bands of the 80's and Morrisey is still big with the crowds of old Smiths fans that are around today. I can't really think of another band (besides Phish) that had as big a following or were more influential among college rock bands than The Smiths.
It's Jimi Hendrix. They're all "good ones". I could have sworn the Hendrix estate released this "unreleased new album" already. Not that long ago there was an "unreleased" and "new" Hendrix album put out there. It had some good stuff on it, but it didn't get nearly the attention it should have. This time around, they're pushing it more. They're tying it in to Jimi's 70th Birthday AND they're debuting tracks on a random episode of Hawaii Five-O. I wish I was kidding. The first place anyone can hear new music from one of the guitarists of all time is on a show starring Scottie Caan. I really hope this album is great and I want to appreciate it, but the way they're going about it is just really tacky.
Mark Radulich: FACT.
There's so much mediocre music out there that I am truly floored when I come across something as exquisite as this song. Hendrix reminds me what true musical talent sounds like. I cannot believe how incredible this is. What really gets me is how I can here several of his other songs in it like he took bits and pieces of different songs and mashed them together to create The Hendrix Song. It's a marvel.
I think the real question here is why would anyone not be excited for a new David Bowie album? I think the only logical answer to that is ignorance. If you're ignorant to Bowie's greatness then you're probably too young to know what an encyclopedia is or just too dumb. I'm not saying we all need to put on Ziggy Stardust make up and go watch Labyrinth" twice a day. If that's your thing, cool but it's not a necessity. Needless to say, I'm a Bowie fan-boy. I have a music-related bucket list that involves seeing Bowie in concert and a new album could make that happen. Of course I'm excited for a new album.
Mark Radulich: FACT.
My wife is a big Bowie fan and I asked her this question. She in turn asked me who he was collaborating with this time. Look, Bowie is a great talent and he almost always puts out something worth listening to I'm curious to see what a BOWIE album sounds like in 2013. It should be very interesting.
Score Card: 6 for 6
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