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411 Music Fact or Fiction 08.23.13: Insert Inappropriate Michael Jackson Joke Here
Posted by Joseph Lee on 08.23.2013

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Welcome to another edition of Fact or Fiction: Music. I'm your host, Joseph Lee.

This week we have Robert Cooper against Stewart Lange.

Round 1
1) You're looking forward to a new Foo Fighters album.
Robert Cooper: FICTION.

Looking forward to is a big strong for me, because while I like the Foo Fighters just fine, I'm not really all that stoked for the new album because it's really away from my radar in terms of new music to listen to. I wouldn't mind hearing a few new singles off of the album, but a whole Foo Fighters album probably wont be anything that I look forwards to, because it's just on my mind right now.

Stewart Lange: FICTION.

I've never been a big Foo Fighters fan. Their first couple of albums came out at at time they "weren't heavy enough" for me, and nothing I've heard since makes me really want to listen to them at length. I know the songs from the radio and all, but the new one is just standard Foos and an album won't be getting picked up.

Score Card: 1 for 1

Round 2
2) Kendrick Lamar's "Control" is getting more controversy than it should.
Robert Cooper: FACT.

I think it's been blown way out of proportion, I see it as a challenge, rather than an insult. I don't really get the whole thing with dissing people it might get your name out there as, "guy who dissed big name", but if you don't have the talent to carry your career past the dissing stage, you really aren't worth anyone's attention. I think that Kendrick Lamar was doing something that I see in metal quite a bit, calling yourself the best, and laying down the challenge to take that self proclaimed title from him. I say that instead of laying down useless diss tracks, that the other guys need to focus on crushing him in quality and making everyone say that they're better, instead of matching boast with boast.

Stewart LangeFICTION.

Because of this. Anything else I could give a crap about.

Score Card: 1 for 2

Round 3
3) There's not a performance MTV can find that would get you to watch the VMAs.
Robert Cooper: FACT.

Not at all, you could go into hypotheticals and say, "Well, Coop, what if they got Megadeth to perform there?" (I love Megadeth, by the way), and then my answer would be that I could watch it some other time, or probably watch it done better, and not in front of a crowd who doesn't give the back side of a rat's ass about the band. The VMA awards are pretty much the most shallow awards show that you can find, and I really don't see anything changing my mind and tuning me in, because quite frankly I despise the show, if only for the reason that MTV doesn't even do music anymore.
Stewart Lange: FICTION.

I mean, of course there is. They get Salma Hayek to give Emily Browning a lesson on girl-on-girl on stage? Sure, that'd get me watching. Sorry, music related? Okay, so then what if Combichrist take on One Direction in a electric cage death match? Realistically, though, I'll not watch, but they could do SOMETHING that I'd change my mind, despite it being completely unrealistic.
Score Card: 1 for 3


Round 4
4) The Michael Jackson/Justin Bieber "collaboration" was terrible.
Stewart Lange: FACT.

Absolutely. (Insert inappropriate Michael Jackson joke here).

Robert Cooper: FACT.

This gets a fact just based on the fact that Justin Beiber is a twat, and no amount of King of Pop can really save the fact that he is an ass, and not really performing with the real Michael Jackson.

Score Card: 2 for 4

Round 5
5) You weren't a fan of Eminem's new song "Survival".
Stewart Lange: FICTION.

I like it. I find it's pretty hard for me to dislike Eminem and it's hardly his best work, but it's cool. I think Eminem is maybe getting to a stage he should move into production or similar but he's still got it, so I'll be happy to hear a little more from him.

Robert Cooper: FICTION.

Maybe saying that I'm a fan is a word stronger than what I would usually subscribe to, but for this I think I can give it a slight yes. I've always been an admirer or Mr.Mathers, and I feel like he's still going pretty well in terms of quality, and I think this song at least maintained that quality.

Score Card: 3 for 5

Round 6
6) You're disappointed to hear this may be the last Black Sabbath tour.
Stewart Lange FICTION.

I've seen Black Sabbath, it was great, but there comes a point when these guys can't put on the same show any more. Have you seen Motley Crue in the last 8 years? When members of a band need to be propped up on stage, it's time to give it up. I'm just glad Sabbath are doing it while they can enjoy what's left afterwards.

Robert Cooper: FACT.

More for selfish reasons than anything else, I've still not seen them in person, and while they have been to North Carolina before, many times, I'm sure, they didn't come on this last tour, and I'm lucky to get out for concerts in my own state, so there is no real way I could see them. If they weren't going to tour again, I wouldn't be too hurt, because I think we're lucky to see the three original members of Black Sabbath together for a tour a the age they are all at. But while I am disappointed to hear the demise of Sabbath's touring, I can't be too surprised, everyone has to hang up their boots every once in a while, I guess.

Score Card: 3 for 6

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