411 Music Fact or Fiction 08.30.13: The Ghost With The Most
Posted by Joseph Lee on 08.30.2013
Is the outrage over Miley Cyrus' VMAs performance overblown? What did we think of Pearl Jam's latest music video? Did we like Eminem's new single? 411's David Hayter and Mark Radulich debate these topics and more!
Welcome to another edition of Fact or Fiction: Music. I'm your host, Joseph Lee.
This week we have Mark Radulich against David Hayter.
I'd like to take this time to say that I hate that I now know what twerking is. This is what happens when you marry a woman 7 years younger and somewhat in tune with pop culture. Anywho, I've watched the "performance" a few times now and I really don't know what everyone is getting all excited about. First of all, in my opinion, the performance was terrible. It wasn't shocking. It wasn't groundbreaking. It was just distasteful (to me). That in and of itself shouldn't cause the vast majority of people to become distracted from important events in the world. She's a dumb kid having fun rebelling against her former Disney image. Who gives a hoot? Hopefully this will pass without her turning into Lindsey Lohan.
David Hayter: FACT.
Of course it's overblown, but that's the whole point. Miley Cyrus and her team make a calculated move (it's not like these performances are spontatenous) and the press eat it up and turn it into a running story. The VMAs have always done this (remember Madonna and Christina?), it's a win win. The press get a juicy story that the gossip rags can run and the moralists can moan about, while Miley gets to continue her good-girl-gone-bad narrative in the public eye.
Personally, while I'm no fan of Robin Thicke and I think the culture appropriation does grate at times, I love the overall concept. Miley's a young lady and she's doing exactly what she should be doing. Experimentation, breaking rules and having the time of her life – god knows I was at her age. I also enjoy that fact she's simultaneously enraging dusty white opinion and slyly mocking the overly masculine hip hop culture. It's all in good fun I say.
Yeah, it's fine. It's a fun, punky song with lots of stuff going on in the video. I like the clips of different disasters throughout the video. We see lightning bolts, bombs, environmental crises, etc. I find it interesting that "Mind Your Manners" alludes to tragedies like September 11th, global warming and Hurricane Sandy while Eddie Vedder bemoans, "Tried my patience/Patience tried." Pearl Jam isn't my thing but if forced to listen to it, this song ain't half bad.
Not remotely, Pearl Jam are an excellent live band but they never actually look interesting when they are being filmed for videos. Eddie's rock moves look stale, the imagery is cliché to the point of parody, and with the exception of the neat use of his mouth against the graphics, this is a pretty unremarkable vid. It's not bad per se, but I won't be clicking again just to watch the video.
All things considered I dug this track. It had a lot of energy, it was totally crude and insulting and it had a great tempo. Eminem is one of the few hip-hop artists I actually like and even he puts out stuff I can't stand at times. This was not one of those times. It had a nice combination of his anger and aggression mixed with a danceable and fun beat.
David Hayter: FACT.
While Eminem isn't the kind of artist I'd listen to in 2013, I did have a whale of a time watching him headline Reading and Leeds Festival and am certainly intrigued by his new material. Rick Rubin and Dre are back in the hip hop production game, and they seem intent on turning the clock back. The references to LL Cool J's Radio and The Beastie Boys are obvious and Em appears to be employing a typically British rhyme pattern.
I've never been a fan of retrospection, I prefer modernity and if Eminem is going to look backwards he's going to have to bring some serious mic skills, and well he just doesn't. Other than watching Em go through a series of cute references there isn't much meat on this track's minimalist bones. Perhaps spending a week listening to Earl's dense internal rhymes has soured me to brain dead hip hop, but this track just doesn't do that much for me. Solid chorus though.
Blink-182 are arguable a more interesting musical proposition in 2013 than they were during their prime (Neighborhoods was deceptively deep) but I've seen little evidence that Tom, Travis and Mark have much to offer. They seem incapable of surprising me and at their age I can't see an artistic breakthrough on the horizon, a solid selection of adult songs certainly, but nothing to make me sit up and take notice.
Mark Radulich: FACT.
I always make fun of my wife for her music taste. Considering she's a big fan of Sister Hazel and The Dave Matthews Band, I think I'm justified. However, to her credit, she's the reason I saw Blink 182 in concert a few years ago and they were fantastic. For a mainstream party pop punk band that specializes in crude humor, I had a great time and would very interested in what kind of music they would put given that the band has matured quite bit.
Well this is a tricky one. I have no real desire to see Getaway based on the reviews and trailer, but if this is about whether I'm interested to see Selena Gomez act in films, then the answer is yes. She's young, she's not terrible, she's likely to improve, and her acting has shown more promise than her music career at this point. Selena Gomez's name on a film poster won't sway me either way, but I'm not going to reject a film just because she's in it.
Mark Radulich: FACT.
What is a "Selena Gomez?" For that matter, what the hell is Getaway? I suppose I could look this up but that's how I ended up knowing what twerking was and I'm not taking any chances.
I trust Justin Timberlake's judgement. He's always got one eye on marketing and he wouldn't associate himself with a complete dud at this point, so I'd expect his team of super producers to lead the project, but I really just don't see the point. I can't imagine it being any kind of NSync album, it would surely just be Justin and his back up dancers? He wouldn't seed control, and other than a novelty sales boost, I don't see why JT would go for it.
Mark Radulich: FICTION.
Nope. Apparently every girl I know between the ages of 20 and 40 would vehemently disagree with me but NSYNC is not really my cup of tea.
Score Card: 2 for 6
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