411 Music Fact or Fiction 09.20.13: The One Where People Think A Miley Cyrus Song Could Be Good
Posted by Joseph Lee on 09.20.2013
Is there any chance a Kanye West/Miley Cyrus collaboration will be good? Will we tune in for Arcade Fire's concert special? What did we think of Drake's "Wu Tang Forever"? 411's Jeremy Wilson and Tony Acero debate these topics and more!
Welcome to another edition of Fact or Fiction: Music. I'm your host, Joseph Lee.
This week we have Jeremy Wilson against Tony Acero.
Look, if Billboard wants to give Pink an award, that's fine with me. I actually quite like Pink (both personally and musically) and she's had a good enough career to be recognized, especially when you consider who Billboard have given this award to in past years (Katy Perry, Beyonce, Taylor Swift). She may not be the biggest pop star out there, but she's among the upper echelon and she's not only been fairly consistent since starting out, but may actually be getting better as time goes on.
Tony Acero: FACT.
Sure, why not. I mean, what other woman in the music industry can take it right now? Not to say that Pink is deserving, or even an option of mine had someone asked, but upon looking at Pink as an artist, she has been able to both break the shell she created for herself yet stay true to herself the entire way through. Her last album was probably the only I actually listened to in depth, and not only can the girl legit sing, she also has some depth in her lyrics that is different than most pop fodder given to us. While Miley is out there with her tongue out, Pink is sitting quiet, and enjoying the lime light.
I couldn't give a shit about rap. So yeah, you can say I didn't care for it.
I'm on my third consecutive listen of Drake's new album and although this song was chosen as his third single, I can't really see why. In Drake fashion, it feels like he's trying just a bit too hard here to capture a past feeling and make it his own. The song isn't bad by any means, but I continue to find Drake's incessant need to sing on his tracks to be annoying beyond all else. The album, so far, is lyrically better than anything he has done in the past, and he raps way more compared to his last album, but "Wu-Tang Forever" lacks anything new from beginning to end.
I'm a Killers fan (A Dustland Fairytale is the shit), although I'm not exceedingly amped for a greatest hits album, nor am I totally in love with "Shot at the Night," one of two new singles on the upcoming album. It's not terrible, but it lacks the urgency and punch that the best Killers songs have. It has a very '80s arena rock feel and is relatively catchy (as most Killers songs tend to be), which I still sort of like, but I don't think it'll be mentioned in the same breath as "Dustland," "Mr. Brightside" or "Somebody Told Me.".
Tony Acero: FACT.
Maybe it was the fact that youtube took forever and a day to load this fucking song, but once I finally got to hear it, I really enjoyed it. The Killers have always been hit or miss with me, and that's probably because I haven't actively pursued their entire catalog. Seriously, this shit took forever. What's with YouTube being such a dick nowadays? Anyways, the song...It starts with a bit of a Chromatic feel to it, but once the vocals hit, it's like we've stepped into the backside of the soundtrack of The Breakfast Club and I ask you, is that so bad?! No. The answer is no. It's a union of a newer sound with the comfortable feeling we are known for from The Killers.
If you've heard Miley Cyrus in the past, you know that she is another in the long line of pop artists who's voice can be so altered that she'll sound like completely different people from one track to the next. With that being said, I can see a Kanye and Miley track doing just fine in terms of quality. We have to separate our disdain for the person(s) before truly taking a stab at whether or not the track would be any good, and considering Kanye will be involved, he may very well be able to do something with it all.
Jeremy Wilson: FICTION.
You're kidding, right? This would obviously be the greatest musical collaboration in the history of time. You're talking about someone who has become almost masterful at pushing buttons and playing the media like puppets. pairing up with someone who is unintentionally masterful at pushing buttons and has no genuine perception on how people actually view and react to him (and perhaps doesn't even care). I mean look at what happened when Miley performed with Robin Thicke. I can't begin to imagine what a Miley/Kanye collaboration would look like...only that it would break the Internet and launch about a dozen Buzzfeed "Top 32 Greatest Things About The Miley/Kanye Collaboration" pieces. The music doesn't even matter (reportedly a remix of West's "Black Skinhead"). It's the video we all want to see anyway. And if it manages to upset the PTC or Catholic League or anyone half as much as her MTV performance and video for "Wrecking Ball" did, it should be entertaining for us non-invested observers (neither fan, nor critic).
I can appreciate Arcade Fire and their crazy Canuck ways. I remember their Album of the Year win, and how both myself and 411 really applauded them for such a feat, but after that, I didn't really actively listen to them again. With this being the case, it's highly unlikely I'll be catching the NBC concert special. Hell, I hardly ever catch the Mania specials NBC puts on, and I have way more interest in that.
Jeremy Wilson: FACT.
I'm almost always up at that hour anyway and while I don't routinely watch SNL, I'm a big Arcade Fire fan and I don't mind spending a half hour watching them. Reflektor is going to be awesome and getting a taste of it on both SNL and the special will only makes us want it more. Call me a hipster if you want, but more Arcade Fire is a good thing. Even on NBC.
Nope, not doin it. I don't hate Britney. In fact, I think she had her moment in the sun and it lasted much longer than it should have. I have friends that still swear by her, calling her a bad bitch and I guess Britney has heard, because that seems to be the direction she is heading with her music. It's not a bad look, as it will capture her old-school fans and give the new ones a "rebel-like" attitude towards liking the Queen B. This all seems to be surrounded by the efforts to continue to be bad ass in Vegas, and I suppose that's not so bad. However, I'm not at a pool party in Vegas with boobs, bikinis, and beers surrounding me, so this song does nothing for me.
Jeremy Wilson: FACT.
I've always had a certain affinity for Britney Spears and not just in a pervy way. I felt sorry for her and I've rooted for her to get her life in order and get her career back on track. I've even liked some of the more recent singles she's put out, but I'm just really blah on this. I don't hate dance music, but there's just nothing here that captures my attention (other than, maybe, the title) and it doesn't feel like a single that will stand the test of time, especially compared to a lot of her other hits. I'm just so tired of the over-synthed, over-autotuned sound...it's just tiresome. Although, I will say the fake British accent is humorous.
Score Card: 5 for 6
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