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 411mania » Politics » Blog Entry
Winging It
Posted by Paul J. Amore on 05.07.2009



The concept of left-wing and right-wing comes from the French legislature during the time of that nation's late-18th-century revolution, where those in favor of keeping things generally the way they were sat on the right side of the chamber, and those in favor of sweeping change sat on the left side. This is essentially a point of epistemology as applied to ethics: is the good achived by examining the past, or the future? Is utopia a steady state, or a steady rise?

Today, in the US, neither side is so simplistic. Each wing has their issues they want changed, and those where they want the status quo. The beautiful thing is to put yourself in their shoes and enjoy the righteousness. One wishes for total honesty from either side, just for clarity. Something along the lines of this:

Hey, Miss California, you're a bigot, not because you said you think marriage is between a man and a woman, but because you think it. And the only reason you think so is because some old men thousands of years ago came up with some stupid idea that there's a ghost in the sky who likes it when you treat others like crap, only you're stupid and selfish enough to believe it. You want to think you're superior to gays just for an ego boost. Well, I got news for you, honey, you're not better than anyone. The only way you achieve good in this world is to love and support others, not step on them.

Or this:

Hey, guy with too many names and a weird beard and a rag on your head, watch your rear end because I am just waiting to get you in a torture chamber where I can hear you scream and hopefully get some info out of you that will stop a terrorist attack. Because even though you have some good people, my culture is superior to yours and you are going to learn it the hard way. If you had just been sensible and dressed normal and talked English, you could have been ok, Achmed. Now, it's the water board for you.



However, just to talk about right and left wings is limiting us to one dimension. There are other wings out there. How about a South wing, comprising the post-9/11 security voters, who favor aggressive foreign policy but are also social and fiscal liberals? And we need a North wing, for their antitheses, being the Ron Paul supporters who want less government and less military intervention. There's a down wing, for pure collectivists, who want control both by government and by religion, both making sure each person stays in lock-step with the correct ideals. For me, I'll take an up wing, where those of us who worship individual choice, even when it damages society. And a completely-outside-the-box wing for your actual anarchist.

Here's where it gets tricky though. Some of these wings are for freedom, and some are for security, and some are for control, and they all might have inherent flaws, and superficial flaws, but even the worst one is still superior to a certain group.

Moderates.

Centrists, middle-of-the-roaders, pragmatists, and those who don't subscribe to any ideology. The people whose political idea is to operate on the spur of the moment, with no rhyme or reason, who can't be argued against because by the time the argument is put forth, they're on to a new position.

In the first place, it's dirty pool to play politics with no objective in sight, just trying to take down—or steal, which is worse—the ideals of others. Moreover, it's a sad state of affairs when you subsume yourself to the issues. Are we to be the masters of our own lives or the servants? It might be excusable for a youth, still reading his way to competency, to be rudderless and not know where his values lie, but it is inexcusable for anyone claiming the title of adult to not have a philosophy that governs his life.

By what right do the plurality (sadly so) of citizens claim to have their stake in government when they don't know what it is they want? By what right to they tell me, who has ideals, that I cannot follow them? What is the justification for the concept that merely by drawing breath for 6,574 days (anyone checking my math, don't forget leap years) you get a say in ruling other people?

But beyond that, what irks me is every two-bit blogger or talking head who claims that the Republicans are too far right, four years after another shift claimed the Democrats were too far left. (Aside: it's not the same group. The right-wing are the ones claiming "too far left" and vice versa. If I didn't know any better I'd say this was not a sincere desire to improve society but a wish to eliminate the ideology of the other side.) The right answer is in the middle? Who says so? What makes you think it? Maybe the right answer is to let the sides fight it out. Maybe the right answer is to split up the world into mini-states and let each person choose his own, based on his values.

Claiming you don't know what's right but want to guess anyway is the tertiary sin of politics. Claiming that right is to be found in a Chinese menu of positions is the secondary sin. Claiming there is no right is the primary sin. For the sake of whatever is good, call something good! Establish values, come up with a philosophy, think!


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The problem is that rarely are people in lockstep with the full notion of what one of your "wings" deals with. Many "social liberals" support gun ownership, for example.

"Moderate" doesn't mean "no values." It means having opinions that may not always fit comfortably in a box. We need to learn not to box people in.


Posted By: Zack (Guest)  on May 07, 2009 at 01:00 AM

 
 
Both political parties play the same pandering/PR game. All it is now is a game. Much like most things in life now. The hype itself is more important than the actual action.

A problem is that you have people who call shows who "Agree 100% with the host." That's scary and dangerous. It says to me that this person isn't thinking for the self. People need to take time to read from multiple sources and come to their own conclusion on things.

The reason to check multiple sources is that every media outlet has a slant and an agenda to push. It's a myth that the media is impartial. This isn't new, it's just had the light shed upon it. Heck, Capone had some of the Chicago Media on his payroll back in the 1920's.


Posted By: CK from LV (Guest)  on May 07, 2009 at 06:24 AM

 
 
"Centrists, middle-of-the-roaders, pragmatists, and those who don't subscribe to any ideology. The people whose political idea is to operate on the spur of the moment, with no rhyme or reason, who can't be argued against because by the time the argument is put forth, they're on to a new position. "

You appear to be confusing moderation with schizophrenia.

A "middle of the roader", as you are describing it, chooses between what they view as "right" in each of the two primary sides. You discussed a number of possible positions this may take you in (your North, South, Up, and Down wings). All of these positions would fall under "moderate".

Or, to put it another way, by saying that you would be "up wing" pretty much says you're moderate...


Posted By: J. Alexander Mitchell (Registered)  on May 07, 2009 at 09:11 AM

 
 
I always read the word "moderate" as not completely agreeing with either the traditional conservative (Republican) or liberal (Democrat) viewpoints. What I had always thought of as moderate to you would be in one of the North, South, up, down wings.

Glad to know how you are defining the word though, as it was definitely one of the things in your columns that gave me pause, and as it turns out was just a semantic issue. I completely agree that people need to inform themselves on the issues and take a stand, or else abstain from participating.


Posted By: Michael (Guest)  on May 07, 2009 at 09:51 AM

 
 
So I MUST subscribe to one political ideology? I can't disagree with whatever wing I happen to be assigned to? Whether its Right, Left, North, South, Chicken or Hot...I must subscribe to one? You are basically saying that all Moderates are "Flip-floppers" and "wafflers". Your wrong. They take some from column A and some from Column B and some from Column C.

Posted By: MydniteSon (Guest)  on May 07, 2009 at 09:59 AM

 
 
Doesn't seem that Mr. Amore really understands what a "moderate"/"middle of the roader" is based on this article.

Your other points seem pretty sound..but the whole rant on moderates seem pretty uninformed.

A moderate is NOT someone who has no view or takes no viewpoint, but is rather someone who's has some ideas that lean left and others that lean right and therefore do not fit into the category of Left or Right wing.


Posted By: saywhat (Guest)  on May 07, 2009 at 10:42 AM

 
 
I prefer pragmatist.

Posted By: AdmChesterMynuts (Guest)  on May 07, 2009 at 12:40 PM

 
 
If you replace the word "moderate" with the word "undecided" this would read much better. Those fickle mushheads who hear twenty debates and walk into the voting booth STILL not knowing who they will choose, now those are the ones who should abstain from the process.

The point of a society is that we all benefit from a shared existence, which means trying to please as many people as possible is a perfectly valid goal. If any compromise is unacceptable to you, you might as well be a hermit.


Posted By: Shockmaster (Guest)  on May 07, 2009 at 02:01 PM

 
 
"Left wing" and "right wing" are relative. I'm Australian, and some of my friends who follow US politics feel that the US doesn't have a left-wing party - "The Democrats are right-wing, and the Republicans are loony-right-wing."

Posted By: Laevatein (Guest)  on May 07, 2009 at 06:17 PM

 
 
I think that this article is too simplistic in labeling someone "Left" or "right" - it really is putting the cart before the horse.

I think more people agree on more basic topics than we think, and that much of the argument comes in how to achieve them.

And if we can see that, it would be the first step toward having civil discourse, and also understanding why the different viewpoints in this argument are so passionate about their ideas - because we are all basically trying to achieve the same thing!


Posted By: Stephen (Guest)  on May 08, 2009 at 10:51 AM

 
 
Amore, you're such a hilarious little chimpanzee. I bet you're one of those guys who goes around with a big jug of Kool-Aid screaming "We don't need no dayum moderates in this here party!"

Just because someone's a moderate doesn't mean they have no positions. It means they have moderate positions as opposed to extreme lunatic fringe ones.


Posted By: EPIC CAT (Guest)  on May 08, 2009 at 10:23 PM

 
 
How is having positions that both sides can agree with not itself a position besides the completely arbitrary construction which puts it outside the pale?

Posted By: Andrew Tobolowsky (Registered)  on May 09, 2009 at 12:21 PM

 
 
So its wrong to not want to be part of the lunatic fringe on either party? Uh...yeah.

Posted By: Josh (Guest)  on May 10, 2009 at 11:58 AM

 
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