Going Green is Good
Posted by Paul J. Amore on 06.19.2009
The unconsidered consequences of switching to renewable energy
I'm in favor of renewable energy. . . well, no, that's a poor term, energy isn't really renewable per se, what with entropy and all, but you know what I mean. Non-fossil-fuel energy. Green energy. Hydroelectric. Geothermal. Solar. That's the one we all want. Big shiny solar panels covering the Sahara and the Gobi just sucking up the UVs and turning them into electricity or hydrogen or gasoline. Or maybe a Dyson sphere out in space, rotating with the earth so the sunny side stays sunny. That's the green dream. And I'm for it.
Because here's the consequences of that kind of energy production:
Electric bills will be a thing of the past. No one will ever be told in the winter to put on a sweater, not when you can just raise the thermostat to 80 Fahrenheit. Conversely in the summer, when you come in from the outdoors, you can have your air conditioner pour out air the same temperature as your freezer until you're comfortable, then return it to room temperature. Why bother being efficient? We've got enough energy. In fact, you could just leave your freezer door open all the time. No sense having to waste time and effort closing it when we can just use more energy.
Let's talk about vehicles. With all this energy, we can build engines as powerful as we like. No more mpgs, no more gas stations with big prices on display. You'll be able to get a giant machine that seats ten comfortably, goes from zero to 100 mph in 2 seconds, and can be driven at that speed safely, since the side panels can be made extra robust—we don't care how much the thing weighs, just add more horsepower—and in the event of a catastrophic collision, just load the thing up with energy absorbing cushions between the cabin and the hull. In fact, once that's done it'll be perfectly acceptable to drive while talking on a hand-held cell phone while eating with the other hand and peeking at SpongeBob out of the corner of your eye on the dashboard TV .
This is just the consumer side. Think about what that amount of energy would do for businesses. When a factory's energy costs are none, it makes far more sense to use machine labor than human labor, which is a cost-cutting double whammy. Plus they can produce products that are bigger and bulkier since transportation and storage also cost less. Give us the green energy, please, so that profits can skyrocket across the country.
I'm deliberately being extreme here; obviously a few thousand mirrors aren't going to usher in this sort of lifestyle. But I do have a point with this. Energy is the means to an end, that end being human utility. People doing what they want to do and enjoying themselves for it. Not gathering around an arboretum and gazing at the flowers and enjoying their self-righteousness for being good stewards of the planet.
So here's a question and a bit of food for thought. Does the outcome of green energy I described disturb you? If so, then consider if it's really the concrete issue of energy you're concerned with, and not whether you simply don't like the jerk in the SUV. And if that's the case, then question whether that dislike is really worth political correction.
Post Script: Someone did answer the last article's trivia question correctly. . . and posted as a guest! I mean what is the point of that? Well, congratulations #2358, John Adams is the answer.
I agree with alot of what you said. But the ability to make what you said into reality is still about half a century away and will cost alot of money to implement.
I'm all for renewable energy like solar, nuclear, hydrogen and fusion energy. But I don't see the harm in a cost-benefits analysis to see what is worth implementing now and what needs to be done gradually.
Posted By: DeimosMasque (Guest) on June 19, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Paul Amore: Post Script: Someone did answer the last article's trivia question correctly. . . and posted as a guest! I mean what is the point of that? Well, congratulations #2358, John Adams is the answer.
You are wrong, Paul. Thus was my answer to your question: -"Of all the US presidents (Constitution-era, none of this Articles of Confederation crap) who did not die in office, nor ascend to the office on the death or resignation of another man, who served the shortest term?" -
Answer: David Rice Atchison
Democratic United States Senator from Missouri. He served as President pro tempore of the United States Senate for six years. - served the remaining day after James K. Polk's term expired. This is not officially recognized.
Posted By: Independent4Obama (Guest) on June 12, 2009 at 07:20 PM
** the key word is: AFTER President Polk's term expired: Some historians state that President pro tempore of the United States Senate, David Rice Atchison, served the remaining day after James K. Polk's term expired.
Posted By: Independant4Obama (Guest) on June 19, 2009 at 02:29 PM
This is a perfect example of where the private sector should be allowed to thrive. Let private companies and investors cover the R&D costs of developing green energy technology, with the carrot being a government contract to the best bidder for efficient solar panels, etc. Let competition breed innovation, rather than contracting a company on the front end and hurling billions at them for modest results.
Posted By: Shockmaster (Guest) on June 19, 2009 at 02:55 PM
Shockmaster, you have to stop making so much sense.
Posted By: gwpbrian (Guest) on June 19, 2009 at 03:17 PM
Shocky is correct.
The military runs its aquistion process the same way descibed and it is very effective and profitable.
If the military wants/needs a new capability it turns to industry to compete on the best technology for the money.
The government does not build anything- but pays for the capability.
Why not look to energy to compete the same way. We have a need for alternative energy, open up to industry competition to produce solutions- then pay the one that is either cost effective or best result.
It is a sound economic process. Hell, you could even regulate it to avoid another Enron type disaster...
Posted By: The Spook (Guest) on June 19, 2009 at 04:38 PM
The best way to usher in wholesale replacement of fossil fuels with renewable ones is to allow the private sector to develop cost effective methods that all of us can embrace.I'm in the roofing trade and there are solar cell shingles that are easy to install and utilize.
The wrong way to do it is to let looney-tune left-wing tree-fuckers scare pansy ass politicians into forcing us into compliance using an unproven, unrealistic, and down right untrue "theory" that will only breed distrust and rejection.
Posted By: Mikel (Guest) on June 19, 2009 at 07:04 PM
I would love to see some sort of X-Prize like contest for power creation. There is tons and tons of money to be made, but the will just isn't there when energy from overseas is still relatively cheap. Put a 25 million dollar bounty on it. Something like that.
I'd also like to see a more regional approach to energy. People seems to want ONE solution, but I don't see why that has to be. We could be energy independent now. Use geothermal, hydro, solar, and nuclear where they work best in America. Most of the nation doesn't need any more range on a daily basis than the electric cars available can go. If most of us bought an electric car as our next vehicle, then all the oil that we produce here could be used for truckers transporting goods and the like.
Even coal is a better solution than sending our money away to nations that we would rather not be dealing with. I'd rather have one fairly efficient coal plant generating electricity that then goes into powering house and cars, than have gas plants and gas powered vehicles. At least then the pollution is concentrated in one location, and people can work on that problem specifically. Easier to find the solution to one mess than 3 million little messes.
Living here in California, I'm seriously thinking of buying an Aptera car in October. It goes 100 miles on a charge, and that's all I need. I'll still have my truck for hauling things and traveling vast distances if the need arises, but the car payments for my new car our roughly equal what I spend in gas, so it's basically like a free electric car. Win for me, win for the environment.
Posted By: xjuggernaughtx (Guest) on June 19, 2009 at 08:13 PM
Shorter Amore: "Change is scary, let's go back to the 1920s."
Posted By: EPIC CAT (Guest) on June 19, 2009 at 08:45 PM
Shorter Amore: "Change is scary, let's go back to the 1920s."
Posted By: EPIC CAT (Guest) on June 19, 2009 at 08:45 PM
If the environmental left had their way, that's what we would do. Get rid of the environmental left and the fringe religous right, and at least 75% of our problems would be solved
Posted By: gwpbrian (Guest) on June 19, 2009 at 09:55 PM
here's the problem though with reneweable energy, is whenever the private sector does come up with a fuel-effecient alternative, it get's scrapped becuase of government meddling, take for example gm, who had a hybrid that would've run on either hydrogen or water i don't remeber which, it was a story glenn beck had on his show on hln, that would've gotten 100 mpg, and it was set to hit the market next year, but the gm ceo, said the reason we can't get it on the market is because we don't know which way the government is going, and oh yeah, guess what the government scrapped this hybrid idea, that gm spent over 100 billion on, and glenn even drove the car for a week and he loved it. Look the problem is with the greenies themselves, they won't let a wind farm be built in massachuceettes becuase of the kennedy's, i mean even with the green projects there opposed by green's
Posted By: coby preimesberger (Guest) on June 20, 2009 at 12:56 AM
"Big shiny solar panels covering the Sahara and the Gobi just sucking up the UVs and turning them into electricity or hydrogen or gasoline"
That is probably the DUMBEST thing I ever read ANYWHERE. Please stop writing about things of substance and start doing Hollywood gossip rags.
Posted By: CM Wolf (Guest) on June 20, 2009 at 03:53 AM
Cody - can you send a URL on GM's hybrid? I'd really be interested in reading about that.
I think the real problem with this as well as most issues that we are dealing with is the insane need to label the problem the fault of the right... or left... or private sector... or the government... or any one particular group.
Real solutions to real problems will be a function of many parts working together. People's lack of desire to work together is the real problem.
How about government mileage minimums to help spur the car companies to create more efficient vehicles? Government and private sector working together... CRAZY!
Posted By: J. Alexander Mitchell (Guest) on June 20, 2009 at 09:34 AM
inb4 someone calls someone else a cockgobbler, but it's still surprising to see an issue where we're pretty much all on the same page here.
Of course, we're all going to be dead within the next 3 years, but that's neither here nor there.
Posted By: Hank (Guest) on June 20, 2009 at 04:41 PM
This is a perfect example of where the private sector should be allowed to thrive. Let private companies and investors cover the R&D costs of developing green energy technology, with the carrot being a government contract to the best bidder for efficient solar panels, etc. Let competition breed innovation, rather than contracting a company on the front end and hurling billions at them for modest results.
Posted By: Shockmaster (Guest) on June 19, 2009 at 02:55 PM
No doubt. I've been saying this for years.
Posted By: MattL (Guest) on June 21, 2009 at 10:00 AM
I agree that there is a need to develop non-fossil fuels for energy purposes. I have no problem with the free market moving towards green.
I do have a problem with NOT drilling for oil and NOT using the resources we have while the green technologies are developed. Because the green technologies are still being developed into something that is affordable, it is irresponsible to not use the technology we have while we move towards green techonology.
Posted By: Stephen (Guest) on June 21, 2009 at 07:41 PM