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 411mania » Politics » Blog Entry
Help Stamp Out Infidelity – Have Sex with Your Husband
Posted by Enrique on 07.02.2009





The tawdry tale of South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford and his Argentine paramour has reignited the usual schadenfreude-licious public discourse that inevitably follows the adulterous downfall of a sanctimonious politician. All patriotic Americans seem to agree when an elected official cheats on his wife, he's both a fool and a disgrace. In Sanford's case, there's some debate as to whether he should be given some leeway, inasmuch as he may be genuinely "in love" with his South American mistress – as opposed to the likes of Eliot Spitzer, who merely had loveless intercourse with a high-priced callgirl.

Very few Americans are assigning any blame to Sanford's wife, who is portrayed as an innocent bystander to the unraveling of her own marriage. Fair enough, but when asking ourselves "How could Sanford have been so stupid?" maybe we shouldn't be so quick to dismiss a perfectly reasonable explanation – his wife probably wasn't putting out. As we all know, lack of sex can lead married men to recklessness. In this era of gender equality, isn't it about time women started taking some responsibility for driving their husbands to adultery?

The story so far…

After the Sanford affair was revealed, many people scoured the internet to find a photo of his objet d'fornication, presumably to see what a girl worth ending your career and marriage over looks like. Based on the available evidence, I'm sure she's a delightful person, especially if you're attracted to healthy eyebrows. Sanford immediately resigned his role with the Republican Governors Association, and a majority of South Carolinians don't want him to stop there. It's safe to say Sanford's untoward dalliance has substantially altered his career arc.

When a politician is involved in this type of sex scandal, the MSM typically doesn't make excuses for him. But for some reason, there has been a "true love" meme developing over the last week, raising the question – Is it less appalling for a man to commit adultery out of love rather than simple libido? According to this piece of news analysis from the Associated Press, the answer is maybe:

Could the "love factor" ultimately play a role in helping get this governor the forgiveness he seeks?

To family therapist Elana Katz, the fact that Sanford displays passion, be it true love or mere infatuation, doesn't make his behavior more excusable or forgivable. But it might make it more explainable.

"All those things they say about love being blind — well, it's true, love changes us chemically," says Katz, who counsels couples and families at New York's Ackerman Institute. "People get into complicated situations. The sad part is that when there's no one to talk to about it, you can really lose your way even more. The secrecy adds a whole level of confusion."

Still, says Katz, "it's his wife and his family who will ultimately decide if he is forgivable."
It's certainly generous (and sort of bizarre) for the AP to give Sanford such wide latitude, especially since he's not a Democrat. But if the general public is expected to overtly sympathize with Sanford, that's a tall order. As columnist Steve Chapman notes, a recent Gallup poll found 92% of Americans say adultery is "morally wrong," compared to 40% who think premarital sex is immoral. All decent people seem to agree that cheating on one's spouse is very, very naughty.

With all due respect, it can't be that simple. I'm not married myself, but I know several married men, and I can't help but notice none of them complain about their wives' limitless sexual appetites. In fact, it's pretty much common knowledge that married women stop putting out after they have children. My impression is the vast majority of married men find themselves in the unenviable position of having to constantly beg their wives for sex, only to have their requests repeatedly denied. And yet over 90% of Americans think adultery is immoral? Methinks a lot of married men tell pollsters what they think they want to hear. Or maybe they say adultery is immoral because they think they could never get away with it.

Obviously I have no way of knowing how often Jenny Sanford permitted her husband to make love to her. I do know the Sanfords have four children, which by my calculations means they haven't had sex since the Mesozoic Era. And while I realize it may be in poor taste to speculate on the intimate affairs of people I've never met, someone needs to stand up for men whose wives' emotional cruelty drives them to infidelity. Perhaps Jenny Sanford isn't a willfully malicious person, but let's uncharitably analyze some of her recent comments on the affair:

"His career is not a concern of mine," she told reporters as she departed the family's vacation home in Sullivan's Island, South Carolina. "He's going to have to worry about that. I'm worried about my family and the character of my children." […]

"I don't know if he'll be with me, but I'm going to do my best to work on my marriage because I believe in marriage. I believe in raising good kids is the most important thing in the world," she said.
I have no doubt Jenny Sanford thinks raising good kids is important, and that may be the problem. Many married women seem to think being a good mother is more important than being an attentive spouse. I've heard married men describe how they feel they have to compete with their own children for their wives' affection – a heartbreaking situation that could be cured with regular doses of inoffensive marital relations. And yet many married women behave as if being a good mother and having sex once a week are irreconcilable lifestyle choices. It doesn't have to be this way.

While there are some licentious men who are always on the make, my guess is most married fellows are decent guys who just want to make their wives happy – not out of fear of reprisal, but out of genuine affection. So when these generally decent men are repeatedly refused sex, it makes them despondent, and thus more likely to engage in destructive behavior. Ms. Sanford's sense of betrayal may be well founded, but it wouldn't exactly be wild speculation to assume she just maybe made the same choices many married women do, and those choices just maybe contributed to the sordid affair before us.

Instead of asking "Why would anyone be so stupid?", perhaps a better question is "How could this have been avoided?" I would respectfully suggest in many cases adultery could be easily prevented by married women making a better effort to love, honor, and cherish their husbands. Married men won't fall in love with other women if their wives love them, and regular sex is the only way to demonstrate that. If women want to keep their husbands honest, it's not complicated – just sleep with them. Even if you're not in the mood, even if you don't think he "deserves" it. If you don't, then don't bother being outraged when he looks elsewhere for a soul mate.

In fact, if any married women are reading this, go get your husband right now and ravish him. The quality of your marriage will immediately improve, I assure you. If nothing else, do it for the children.


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You are now the hero of every married man in America. I'm emailing this article to all my married friends (who by the way bitch about this very subject).

Posted By: BKeeper (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 12:33 AM

 
 
The only thing this column was missing was a declaration of "that's right, I said it!"

Posted By: KanyonKreist (Registered)  on July 02, 2009 at 12:40 AM

 
 
Valid point

Posted By: amusing comments (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 02:23 AM

 
 
As KanyonKreist alluded, Chris Rock already beat you to the punch by blaming Hillary for Lewinsky...

Posted By: J. Alexander Mitchell (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 02:30 AM

 
 
Ummm... the second you say "I've never been married" you lose the credibility to make these statements. You could be 100% correct... but without credibility it is moot...

Posted By: J. Alexander Mitchell (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 02:37 AM

 
 
100% the truth. Well said.

Posted By: marriedGuy (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 02:52 AM

 
 
If you don't have sex with your husbands, the terrorists win!!!


-GWB


Posted By: Ben S (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 02:53 AM

 
 
You have to be kidding, right? I was married to a man I had to chase around the house for sex. He claimed I was over-sexed.He was happy with once I week, I was not. After my divorce, I was engaged to a man who met my drive and it was amazing! But, he also needed to have other women in his life. He said it was an ego thing. My girlfriends in the 40's and 50's say their husbands don't want sex as much as they do. Put all that together and I think your observations are off kilter. Your comment: "Even if you're not in the mood?" What, are wives just legal prostitutes? Lay still honey and just let me..... yeah, that's a great relationship.

Posted By: Susan B. (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 04:13 AM

 
 
I'm going to agree with Enrique for once.

Posted By: Finn (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 08:23 AM

 
 
I find it odd that I read this article and there's an ad at the bottom for a chinese mail order bride website.

Posted By: Guest#2085 (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 09:43 AM

 
 
So much truth in this article. However this is nothing new and the sexes have been playing this game forever. This is the "politics" of sex. Unfortunately with the growth of female power and leveling of the playing field, men have been the ones yielding ground. But then again that's because men think mostly with what's between their legs! Maybe the disgruntled men should all move to Afghanistan. There I believe, they just passed a law guarateeing at least 3 or 4 times a week sex.

Posted By: stiffed (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 09:51 AM

 
 
This is one of the most pathetic editorials I've ever read. 411mania should be ashamed they let this stuff go up.

So Larry Craig's wife should have been a man so her husband wouldn't go into men's bathrooms looking for gay sex? Mark Foley should have married a woman who would get him young children so he could be a pedophile? This is one of the dumbest articles ever.

GROW UP. There's more to a relationship than humping. Then again, maybe that's why you're single.


Posted By: GaryML (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 10:47 AM

 
 
I think you're heading into dangerous waters here by claiming that adultery is the fault of the wife, rather than the husband.

"In fact, it's pretty much common knowledge that married women stop putting out after they have children."

This is a pretty one-sided view of things and if you were to go around and actually talk to some of these married women, you'd find many of them have huge libidos and uninterested husbands. Your sample group of your friends may be affected by all sorts of cultural factors that skews your data.

And women who are uninterested in sex after having kids may have good reasons - which would vary from woman to woman. You're sort of assuming this generic biological switch that turns all women off after kids - which I've never seen any evidence of.

If there's infidelity in a marriage, it can be based on -any number- of reasons. It can be the fault of the husband, it can be the fault of the wife, it can be the fault of circumstance.

I understand you want to try and point out that there's a possibility Sanford isn't all that bad, which is quite reasonable, but you can't fault one hazy premise, and then claim your own hazy premise is therefore the only valid explanation.


Posted By: DaveP (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 11:12 AM

 
 
so its the wife's fault for not giving it up that caused him to go to another country and cheat? Wow just Wow...just a little male Chauvinism don't ya think

Ive been married to my wife for 15 years (since high school) and I TOTALLY CANNOT relate to anything you have said about married life in this article that was not sarcasm but the honest to god truth.

anyone who cheats because their wife doesn't put out is simply a poor excuse for a human being, and trying to blame the wife for their actions is frankly irresponsible and just shows how sexist society still is in some circles


Posted By: saywhat (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 11:37 AM

 
 
This may be true in some cases, but the right thing for the man to do would be to break it off. Most of them don't do it when they're unhappy because they're too scared.

If she isn't what you want it's your responsibility to make it right. Two wrongs...


Posted By: Guest#9011 (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 12:16 PM

 
 
Wow...nobody came out an blamed Obama and his overspending and/or the Liberal Agenda for this one.

Posted By: MydniteSon (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 12:18 PM

 
 
Ah Sitcom logic, "Woman hate sex."

Posted By: DeimosMasque (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 01:00 PM

 
 
you said: "I'm not married myself, but I know several married men, and I can't help but notice none of them complain about their wives' limitless sexual appetites."

that ended all credibiltiy you had to speak about this topic...i mean really, what is this supposed to be, the mindless ramblings of a teenager?
i have to agree with another commenter...411mania should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this mess to be posted. get some experience, then talk. no wonder you're single dude, and i have a feeling that after some women read this, you're gonna be single for a long time, lol.


Posted By: hartfan (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 01:14 PM

 
 
Great editorial! For possibly the first time, I agree whole-heartedly with a 411mania op-ed. This one even has a biblical context: 1 Corinthians 7:5

Posted By: lafonte (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 01:21 PM

 
 
Peg, if you want to have sex, the kids have to leave, and if you want it to be good, you'll have to leave.

Posted By: Al Bundy (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 01:24 PM

 
 
My experience is that the married dudes are the ones getting the most single trim. I used to think that I would have to get married in order to be able to have a steady girlfriend.

Posted By: AdmChesterMynuts (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 01:24 PM

 
 
funny to see all these pussywhooped marks on here try to defend their relationships.This article is good and true and any man that doesnt have his balls in his wifes purse will agree...

Posted By: Guest#8240 (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 01:26 PM

 
 
Saywhat,

What if I tell my wife that sex was an important part of our life when we got married, still an important part of my life now that we are married, given she has unilaterally decided to stop having sex, I am going to unilaterally decide to not stop having sex by having it outside of the marriage.

Am I still a miserable excuse for a human being for seeking to fulfill this aspect of my humanity?


Posted By: AdmChesterMynutz (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 02:18 PM

 
 
J.,

Do I have to commit a murder in order to comment on who is responsible for the circumstances of a murder?

I get it, only murderers have the experience to credibly comment on murder.

Or only people on the dole can credibly comment about people on the dole.


Posted By: AdmChesterMynutz (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 02:23 PM

 
 
Just because he's not married doesn't mean he has no credibility to talk about marriages. That's like the people who claim that if you haven't played in the NFL, you have no right to criticize a quarterback or a team ("Oh yeah, how may Super Bowls have YOU won, pal?" Give me a break). People who write editorials, online or otherwise, can talk about whatever the hell they want. We all, of course, have the right to completely disagree with them. As for his points, I would say he over-generalized some, but it is very true that we hear far more cases of women losing their sexual appetites once kids come along than we hear about husbands losing theirs. Of course that's not always the case, and if you're married, have kids and your wife still jumps you on a regular basis, more power to you, and for heaven's sake, keep her happy, unless she has some other major issues that nullify the positive of regular sex.

I also don't think he was saying that a wife losing her sex drive makes it okay to fool around. It doesn't. But it certainly does put the thought into the guy's head of "Well if I can't get it from her, I'll get it somewhere else." He was also surely not applying this thought to cases of pedophiles or men soliciting gay sex in restrooms. Those are completely different issues and to compare cases like that to a man and a woman having an affair is ridiculous. Yes, there is a lot more to a marriage than sex, but sexual problems and money problems are probably No. 1 and 2 among reasons for marriages breaking up. An affair shouldn't be a person's response to a spouse's vanished libido, but a lot of people probably consider it more fun and less work than trying to get their partner's hormones going again.


Posted By: rodnumber6 (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 02:32 PM

 
 
"Am I still a miserable excuse for a human being for seeking to fulfill this aspect of my humanity?"

---

Yes you are....if you aren't being fulfilled at home then end the marriage and go about your business after that. I don't see why anyone would want to continue a sham of a relationship if you aren't being satisfied in whatever way that is, sexual, emotionally, etc..


Posted By: saywhat (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 02:42 PM

 
 
First, big credit to Enrique for taking what looked to be one of his silly assertions meant to stir the pot, and instead making some serious points.

I've never been married, but here is what I know. When I'm around married or divorced men with no women nearby, I can't get them to shut up about how dissatisfied they are (or were) with their sex lives. I have never once in 32 years heard a man say he was happy with his wife's level of output. Of course, one could theorize that married men who are happy don't vocalize the intimate details of their marriage, so maybe the feedback I get is skewed.

I think Sigmund Freud wasn't that far off in a sense. Men want a woman who is like their mother in the sense of being affectionate, loving them unconditionally, and caring more about their happiness than anything else.

Every year I get my mom a Mother's Day card so affectionate she cries. When I choose it I'm thinking no other woman will ever treat me as she has, and it makes me both grateful and sad.

To see women interact with their children, to see what they are capable of, and then see them put none of that effort toward their husbands makes me think I may be better off alone. Surely it must make their husbands think they would be better off elsewhere.

Men are not allowed to be emotionally open with women. The only way they can experience intimacy is through sex. When a man plays the tough guy, which is how he attracts a woman to begin with, it gets tired after a while. The emotional distance it creates leads to the woman locking her legs together, which leads the man to either accept it or look elsewhere.

The net result is a pattern where women choose a relationship that can't possibly make them happy in the long term. They then give their affection to their children instead of their husband. Some men accept it, others crack. And in fairness, some men are just selfish jerks who would cheat no matter what.

I have gotten a lot of criticism for being too picky. All it comes down to is the moment I see signs of a woman who won't prioritize me, I lose interest. I'm terrified of ending up one of the lonely, unhappy married men I know.


Posted By: Shockmaster (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 02:44 PM

 
 
Anyone who stays in a sexually void relationship...should just get out of that relationship end of story. If you made a vow to your wife to be faithful then you should be that way, if your not happy...get out and then find someone who will give you what you want...simple as that.

No if you guys have an arrangement where she says its ok...well then thats a different argument in which case go for it ;-)...no problem with ya there!


Posted By: saywhat (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 02:50 PM

 
 
More asinine comments from an ass.

Posted By: Joe (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 03:14 PM

 
 
There is no sham in full disclosure. There is only one kind of marriage, which is your marriage, any other kind of marriage is a sham. Thank you for your judgement.

Respectfully,

A miserable human being


Posted By: AdmChesterMynutz (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 04:05 PM

 
 
im not usually a fan of Enrique, but I enjoyed the article, keep it up.

Posted By: mike (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 04:48 PM

 
 
As a woman who enjoys sex, I must say I agree with you. Women need to do more for their husbands!

Posted By: guest (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 05:40 PM

 
 
Maybe, instead of cheating, men should get a fucking divorce like an adult. Or how about some therapy?

Posted By: Andy (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 05:42 PM

 
 
"Thank you for your judgement."

----

Well if your going to be like that your welcome...opinions are like assholes everyone has one and that is mine

you disagree thats fine, live your life anyway you see fit, i'm all for personal freedom. just don't expect me to feel sorry for you and think what your doing is right, its called respecting your partner in my book, but hey to each is own

then again that's MY personal feelings...others personal feelings may vary of course and yours clearly do.

So if your wife wasn't getting it from you and she went out and started banging other guys thats ok? Of course you are going to say it is...why am I asking. I would have a problem with that so I wont be a hypocrite here and say its ok for me and not for her because that's not how I feel.


Posted By: saywhat (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 05:49 PM

 
 
"
This is one of the most pathetic editorials I've ever read. 411mania should be ashamed they let this stuff go up.

So Larry Craig's wife should have been a man so her husband wouldn't go into men's bathrooms looking for gay sex? Mark Foley should have married a woman who would get him young children so he could be a pedophile? This is one of the dumbest articles ever.

GROW UP. There's more to a relationship than humping. Then again, maybe that's why you're single.

Posted By: GaryML (Guest) on July 02, 2009 at 10:47 AM"

Did you forget to take your midol today? Jeez, GROW UP and accept the fact that things are possible outside of your pristine life. Stop yelling at 411mania, which is a website...not a person. Go back to beating your meat while some married dude takes your wife.


Posted By: Guesticles (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 06:41 PM

 
 
Enrique, dude, it seems like you didn't learn from last time. I told you that you'd get attacked for having a fair opinion, and now you're going to get attacked again. It doesn't matter how logical you are or what evidence you have backing it up, if you mention ANYTHING in the US about women where you're not kissing their asses, you're going to get attacked. Hard. Mostly by men, but also by some shrieking women.

The comments you'll see now will mostly be from men that will claim you are sexist or you're promoting marital rape, or women that claim that it's their husbands faults and that they actually do want to have sex. It's all a pile of bullshit. White males have become complete pussies and are trying to enforce that same pussy mentality on every other race of man. Fortunately, minority women generally actually like men, so it hasn't become as much of a problem yet for other races. But maybe it's just a matter of time.

Funny stuff. I'm gonna get attacked too now, it's just I don't really care. I guess you don't care either, which is awesome, because I like your columns. Keep it up!


Posted By: Serp (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 06:55 PM

 
 
As a married man in a loveless relationship that involves teenage children I must agree.

What is a man to do when the woman he pledges his undying love for turns on him and actually tells him "I don't love you anymore".

Sex is an important part of marriage - if you don't think it is you are either a virgin or pussy whipped.

A woman knows how to control a man - most of my married friends that actually talk to me about these things all say the same thing - when she wants it it's ok, when the man instigates it, it's usually met with a no - or not now or some other excuse.

The problem is that going into marriage most women want a fairy tale and a man is willing to pretend he can give that in order to secure the woman he loves.

The reality is that once you are married and she turns into a bitch and won't stop arguing and telling you the million things she thinks are wrong with you - well those are the same gd things she told you she loved about you.

Men aren't complicated - women are.

I guess it's God's cruel joke on humanity.

And lemme tell you this... If this 30 something male could go back and talk to the 19 year old that married the women he currently is with, he would tell him to wait - and to find someone who he had a lot in common with and not the stupid "romantic love spell" we ALL fall into.

Men cheat because they don't feel fulfilled at home - sexually or otherwise... deal with it.


Posted By: Guest#6430 (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 07:16 PM

 
 
Wow. I'm almost amazed this is a serious article. Almost.

If you're in a committed relationship and can't vocalize your needs then you're the one at fault. If you want more sex but can't find a way to ask and then cheat...you are in no way a victim.

That said, if you vocalize your needs and your partner is unwilling then you need to either find a middle ground or end the relationship. It's going to most likely end if you cheat. The excuse of staying together for the kids is a sham. It hurts far worse to see a marriage end because one parent cheated/lied than to see a relatively amicable split.

The point here is communication. Whichever poster claimed that men aren't allowed to be open was either raised to be emotionally-stunted or has issues he needs to work through. You need to communicate. This relationship ended not because of sex but because these two people no longer were able to properly communicate. This in many instances is what leads to one partner withdrawing from sex -- they don't feel the connection they once did. Why? Because many people stop trying to impress after they get married. They let themselves go physically or withdraw emotionally. So the other partner feels unwanted or detached which is why they invest themselves into something else like children or a career. How is sex alone going to help that?

Sex isn't a magical relationship fix-it like you seem to be positing. The argument here is akin to blaming a rape victim because she dressed "too sexy." There's a problem that caused the situation to exist beyond the physical layer. With rape, it's a power/domination issue on the part of the rapist. Here the infidelity is a result of a lack of communication on the part of one or both partners. I understand what you're doing, but I find your logic slightly off.


Posted By: Guest#1174 (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 07:23 PM

 
 
Blame the wife for the husband's sexual immorality?

As long as he doesn't have to take responsibility for his own fucking stupidity, why not.


Posted By: Mikel (too lazy to log in) (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 08:21 PM

 
 
Enrique, you're just such a sad, pathetic little man. Foisting the blame on the woman? For shame.

Posted By: EPIC CAT (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 08:28 PM

 
 
Another good article 'E'. But consider:

Marriage is a choice. And with that choice, comes obligation. To yourself. Your partner. And to God.

If you feel you can no longer fulfill those obligations, for whatever reasons, fair enough. End it. And pursue alternatives.

But DO NOT betray yourself, your children, and your spouse, by pursuing those alternatives still bound by the word of your vows.

How much is a clean conscience worth?

Everything.

On passage, you want to be welcomed as an equal. Vice crawling on your belly, full of fear, begging for forgiveness.

The choice, is yours.


Posted By: RazorLight (Registered)  on July 02, 2009 at 08:31 PM

 
 
Wow!! This is bold.

Writing an article like this is bound to attract both support and distaste (as we can see, it already has). The author must be aware how he will be carried on the shoulders of some for finally speaking the truth, while others will undoubtedly do all in their power to shame you and cry their disgust.

Very bold, indeed. I approve. Keeping whatever personal opinions I have to myself, I hold the writer of this daring column in high esteem.

Mr. Enrique, from this day forward, let it be known that the world should never underestimate the size of your cajones!


"I have gotten a lot of criticism for being too picky. All it comes down to is the moment I see signs of a woman who won't prioritize me, I lose interest. I'm terrified of ending up one of the lonely, unhappy married men I know."

Posted By: Shockmaster (Guest) on July 02, 2009 at 02:44 PM

Shockmaster, I want to tell you a quick story. My brother was dragged by his ex-girlfriend (don't ask me how or why) to the movies to see "Sex and the City" last year. He told me later, that when he went into the theater, there was another man around his age who was sitting next to his girl and looked like he'd rather watch paint dry than be where he was at that moment. This is the classic "guy" moment, and my brother, having never met this man before, proceeded to give him a fist pound in understandment of the undesired situation.

I would like to offer you my own cyber-fist to be pounded at this moment. I'm sure their are many other guys who would do the same, cause we all know what you mean.


Posted By: Guest#4852 (Guest)  on July 03, 2009 at 01:03 AM

 
 
It is the husband's fault for choosing that person. So many people get all happy about getting married, but they don't realize that that is the easy part. After marriage, that is when the real work begins....

Is there any information that Mark was anything but a cheeting dude? How do you know he wasn't a totally douche to hsi wife?

Furthermore, you've never been married; so, who gives a damn about your opinion? You don't know anything!


Posted By: David (Guest)  on July 03, 2009 at 07:45 AM

 
 
Ummm, or just get a divorce. Yes, they had kids. But whats more damaging? a)m0mmy and daddy getting a divorce? b) daddy flying to Argentina to bang his bushy browed paramour and having it all over TV and the papers?

Posted By: Ed (Guest)  on July 03, 2009 at 10:04 AM

 
 
I'm troubled by the men who claim this is "the truth." This is only one perspective, and to say this is the only truth neglects to acknowledge that this is actually a fairly draconian view of sexual politics. When relationship therapists began to emerge in the '50s and '60s this was actually one of the reasons given for why men strayed -- because the wife wasn't doing her "job." This lead to suggestions that women offer more sex. It didn't work. People found other reasons to cheat. Be it boredom or the fact that people can fall out of love/lose their attraction to someone.

This is a fairly old, and flawed, view. I wouldn't go around high-fiving each other. If you're at the point where you're willing to cheat then there's a bigger problem than sex. I realize old ideas tend to get recycled but let's leave this one back in the last century where it belongs.


Posted By: Guest#0932 (Guest)  on July 03, 2009 at 12:23 PM

 
 
This article really brought out the anger in people, on either side.

1) His comments are generally right on. Marriage is not ALL about sex, but a majority of the time, it is WOMEN who keep sex from MEN in marriage, and use sex as a weapon.

2) If a man commits adultry , it is HIS responsiblity and HIS actions, so it is HIS fault. However, you cannot divorce his WIFE'S actions from HIS, just like most WOMEN will blame their HUSBANDS for getting them angry or for "not being romantic enough" to get them into sex. So which is it? Do your husband's actions play into how you behave, or is it compeltely your responsiblity? Likewise, if you are honest, a wife's actions play into her husband's behavior as well, giving them rsponsiblity for the adultry committed.

And herein lies the problem that most people who don't acknowledge that will run into.

What do I mean? Well - a marriage is a relationship between two people, and adultry, most of the time, is not something that just happens. It is a process that happens over a long period of time, in which BOTH people involved in the relatinship make mistakes and do not attempt to correct them.
Guess what - one of the biggest mistakes made by women in marriage is NOT HAVING SEX with their husbands. It happens all the time, and those of you who want to call this a teen-age infatuation thing, are simply ignoring the reality, or trying to justify holding back something from their mates that is a vital ingredient in making an intimate relationship work.

3) Personally, divorce is not an option for me, and neither is adultry. So, for someone in my position, if my better half doesn't want to have sex, I am then a man who is not having a large portion of himself satisfied on any level. Where does the responsiblity lie in that? If you are honest, it lies just as much with my wife as it does with me.

This does not speak to issues with communication, money, family goals, or many other problems that might pop up in a marriage - but a lack of sex in a relationship is it's own problem as well as a symptom - but you'd be amazed at how much more agreeable a sexually satisfied man is than one who is constantly horny.


Posted By: Stephen (Guest)  on July 03, 2009 at 05:27 PM

 
 
If my wife sought sex from outside the marriage I would be thankful for the extra free time.

Posted By: AdmChesterMynutz (Guest)  on July 04, 2009 at 04:31 PM

 
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