So Explain This: The Myth Of Post-Racial America
Posted by J. Alexander Mitchell on 07.23.2009
“What would you do if someone tried to f--- with you in your own house?”
"What would you do if someone tried to f--- with you in your own house?"
"Wha… wha?"
"I said ‘WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF SOMEONE TRIED TO F—WITH YOU IN YOUR OWN HOUSE?!?!"
"I'D BUST SOME CAPS!"
"'Bust some caps!'… Give that man a gold star!"
-Paris and Cisco, as portrayed by Avery Brooks and Lou Diamond Phillips, "The Big Hit"
Every time I think about the Henry Louis Gates arrest on disorderly conduct in his own home for more than five minutes, this quote pops into my head, and I find it hard not to laugh inappropriately. For the record, anyone that likes good movies should probably avoid ‘The Big Hit", but this exchange summarizes my feelings on the subject matter. For the uninitiated, Professor Henry Louis Gates, a Harvard professor and director of the W.E.B. Du Bois Institute for African and African-American studies, had just returned home from a trip to China when he discovered his front door jammed. With the help of his driver, he forced his way into his home, but not before a neighbor saw them and called the police, reporting that two Black men were trying to break into a house. An officer arrived, and asked Dr. Gates to come outside. Though he initially resisted (I have read the quote "Yeah, I'll talk to ya mama outside!" attributed to Dr. Gates, though I haven't found any proof that he said it), he eventually showed the officer both his driver's license and his Harvard ID. The officer, who had followed Dr. Gates into his home without permission, continued to question Dr. Gates, at which point the professor began asking to see his ID and became even more agitated. The officer decided to leave, and Dr. Gates followed him outside – still on his own property – and kept yelling at the officer. At this point, he was arrested for disorderly conduct. The interesting part is whether or not race was involved and, more to the point, how can we apply this situation to the thought that we are in a "post-racial" society. In my opinion, many people want desperately for our country to be "beyond race", and point to the election of President Obama as evidence that we have moved beyond it. However, I would submit that we are merely in the second leg of a multi-part relay race, and that to assume that we are "post-racial" is both disingenuous and gets in the way of continuing the incredible progress we have already made.
First off, a disclaimer – this article will speak specifically about Black experiences, and skews heavily towards events in Texas and Louisiana. The reason for this is that I am Black and I live in Texas. As such, I have ready access to this information. I believe most of my points have parallels across varying minorities. Again, though, for ease of demonstration I am sticking mostly to "Black" and "TX/LA" issues.
There are two things that need to occur, in my opinion, before we can move to a post-racial society. The first is that the barriers of entry across class lines (which happen to trend along racial lines as well) must be destroyed. We have made huge strides toward that (as we have in most aspects involving race), and new factors such as increased Pell grants and the imminent health care packages show that we are working well in that direction. The second thing that is needed is a cultural shift in our attitude toward race. I believe we need to be able to have honest discussion about race and subculture tied to race. We have made huge strides in that direction as well, with the election of President Obama serving as obvious evidence of our growth.
However, it is this area that I find the most difficulty. Again, we want to declare the relay completed, when we have just started. I find the fact that many in the majority want to say that we have no more racism troubling; I think that the differences in viewpoint between the majority and minorities merely highlights that we have more work to do. Dr. Gates' arrest provides a wonderful example of this - Most commentary that I have received from (mostly White) friends that I have discussed this with that argue race was not an issue revolved around a single argument: Professor Gates should not have kept yelling at the officer. Most commentary that I have received from (mostly non-White) friends that I have discussed this with have argued that the officer should not have followed him inside his home and should have ended things as soon as Dr. Gates proved that it was, indeed, his home. Ultimately, there is no concrete way to prove whether or not this is indicative of racial profiling or not.
That is the key difficulty – most racism in the 21st century is not overt. Gone are the days when Black people were hung or berated with the N-Word in a sign of what is obviously racism. Yahoo news put up an article about Dr. Gates' subsequent release (the charges have since been dropped), and I found the observation of one statistician very interesting:
Racial profiling became a national issue in the 1990s, when highway police on major drug delivery routes were accused of stopping drivers simply for being black. Lawsuits were filed, studies were commissioned, data was analyzed. "It is wrong, and we will end it in America," President George W. Bush said in 2001.
Yet for every study that concluded police disproportionately stop, search and arrest minorities, another expert came to a different conclusion. "That's always going to be the case," Greg Ridgeway, who has a Ph.D in statistics and studies racial profiling for the RAND research group, said on Monday. "You're never going to be able to (statistically) prove racial profiling. ... There's always a plausible explanation."
The emphasis was mine in this quote. Again – the nature of racism in the 21st century is not overt. If one chooses to ignore race in a situation, one often can. If one chooses to see race in a situation, one often can. This can lead to a lot of failures in communication.
I will give an anecdotal example. I live in Dallas, TX. There is a "section" of Dallas, Highland Park, which is its own city surrounded by Dallas. Highland Park was a very affluent neighborhood in Dallas that decided they did not agree with many aspects of Dallas and had enough wealth to incorporate the neighborhood to become its own city, complete with its own police force, fire department, school district, etc.. The first four times I drove through Highland Park I was stopped by the police and questioned. I was never ticketed – merely questioned. The first two times my registration had expired. The third time I was going two miles over the speed limit. The fourth time there was a warrant on my car for an ex-girlfriend that had run up a number of tickets in Dallas while using my car (Writer's Note – Don't date ghetto chicks… particularly if you are an IT consultant that is constantly travelling and have a car you can let them use while you are out of the state. That doesn't work out well). What makes this story interesting was that each stop occurred at night – it was convenient for many of my hang out spots to cross Highland Park to get to my home. In Texas, your registration sticker is on your windshield. So, whereas there was something "worthy of stopping me" in each situation, I later wondered how in the cop was able to see my sticker while my car was moving at night without any external lighting that I can recall beyond street lights. In Louisiana it makes sense – your sticker is on your license plate, so anyone following you can see it. However, at night it is difficult to believe they saw my tag on my moving vehicle when they were stationary. Moreover, I had done nothing wrong and everything was in tip-top shape when I was stopped due to my ex-girlfriend's warrants. This required that they ran my license plate through their computer system. The questions became "Do you run everyone's license plates through your computer? If not, why did you run mine?" Of course, this question was a mental one, as I did not verbalize it because, as you can guess, I did not want to go to jail. I'm not even going to get into pulling someone over for going two miles an hour over the speed limit. When one looks at this situation, if one chooses to see racial profiling, one will. If one chooses to see someone that has bad luck with one particular area, one will.
Ultimately, the cultural side of our walk towards post-racial society is two-fold. On the majority side, understanding that there are issues of race that one may not understand is crucial. If you have never experienced racism, you must accept, embrace, and, most importantly, respect the fact that others that have will come to vastly different yet equally valid viewpoints than yours. On the minority side, we must recognize that we see race where others don't, then learn to speak and act with so that others that do not have our experiences will understand.
I recognize that I see race. The Highland Park episodes were not my first time dealing with what I perceived as profiling; as a young man on the West Bank of New Orleans, I was stopped while walking on a random dirt road because I fit the description of a criminal. When asked what this description was, I was told "talk Black kid with short hair". Now, I am unfamiliar with what you as the reader may picture as a New Orleanian in the late 80's/early 90's looks like, but trust me when I said that this description fit a lot of people. Unfortunately, I continue to see race, and that is often the differing point between my views and many majority friends and associates. For them, racism is something that happened decades ago that we are well beyond. However, here is what I would counter that with:
I still do not drive in non-highways in Texas because of this.
2006 - Shaquanda Cotton is given seven years jail time for shoving a teacher's aide. Note – not punching the teacher aide… not stabbing the teacher's aide… not shooting the teacher's aide… shoving the teacher's aide. To contrast, a White girl the same age was given probation by the same judge for arson - specifically, burning down her family's house.
2008 - Brandon McLelland is run over by two White "friends" (the extent that they were friends has varied in reports, but, in my opinion, friends don't let friends drag each other to death) after they got into an argument over drinking and Brandon's dating of a young lady that just happened to be White.
2008 - A high school in Charleston, MS has it's first interracial prom. You read that year correctly - not 1948... not 1968... not even 1988... in 2008. Actor Morgan Freeman - who is from the area - offered to pay for an interracial prom every year since 1997, and the school board only accepted it in 2008. The reasoning? The White parents did not want an interracial prom. According to Canadian Director Paul Saltzman, who recorded the event for the documentary "Prom Night In Mississippi", "When I was doing the research and asking people 'What was the problem in having the prom together?' what whites usually said is, 'You know, blacks are into drugs; they're into violence' and on and on and on,"
Though this groundbreaking prom did occur, there were still enough White families that resisted the idea to create a separate White prom.
Each of these has a plausible, non-racial explanation; for example, who can really defend a six-on-one beatdown? Shouldn't families be allowed to have a separate prom? Can we say concretely that Brandon McLelland's "friends" killed him due to racial bias? Is it any wonder why, why we hear of Henry Louis Gates' arrest, some people ask "Why do people see race in everything"? Conversely, every event mentioned with one exception occurred in the last three years. The issues being dealt with are not part of some far-flung, shameful past, but are current events. Is it any wonder why some people choose to still see race?
So explain this to me: Is this really a post-racial America? If it is not, how can we continue our path to a post-racial America?
I think in situations like the professor here had, we misplace the racism. The incident seems to focus on cop/Gates interaction, but it's the neighbor's call that bothers me. What, you don't recognize your neighbor trying to get into their house?
The thing with cops is that that people that often go out for those positions are people that are mentally fulfilled BY the position. They want that respect and power, and when you challenge that, they get very pissy and try to get it back by running you in. Once Gates showed his ID, the officer should have given an apology for the situation and left, even if Gates was still insulting him. But he couldn't do that because his pride was hurt. I'M A POLICEMAN, YOU DON'T TALK TO ME THAT WAY!
As for racial profiling, I think that is the wrong term. It definitely happens, but I don't think it's racial. I had a mohawk for 14 years. I have tattoos, spikes, fucked up T-shirts, the whole nine. I get followed by cops and security guards. I get detained at airports. I was once escorted off a college campus by the Secret service when Chelsea Clinton went there. Authorities target who the think could be causing problems by appearance, and often times that IS race, but that is a smaller part of a whole. APPEARANCE is the real identifier.
That doesn't excuse it, though. I wasn't doing anything wrong in those situations. I was just going about my business, but daring to LOOK DIFFERENT. How audacious of me. But the fact is, I can change my hair and my clothes, but people are pretty much stuck with their race.
Posted By: xjuggernaughtx (Guest) on July 23, 2009 at 01:12 PM
I was thinking about this issue last week when that guy on Fox News (his name escapes me right now) was saying there's a problem in America with people dating "different species". My specific thought (besides him being scum) was that every time I want to think we are past race, I hear something like that and am reminded of the ugly truth.
When it is pointed out, accurately, that race is still an issue, the majority can't help but feel we are all being accused. We too know what it's like to be viewed through prejudiced eyes, even though that prejudice can be based on very real experiences and understandable judgment.
Then there's the petty stuff. Moments where we see certain behavior and have a conscious thought not to draw a stereotypical conclusion. The black man stopping in his tracks on the street to turn 180 degrees and blatantly stare at a woman who walks by, as if he has never seen one (of any color). The teens on the bus yelling and cursing loud enough to be heard from two blocks away. Is it racist to see a certain behavior many times, seemingly isolated to people of one color, and attribute it to their race? Are there simply cultural differences between races that we just need to accept?
Why is openly mocking and stereotyping white people an accepted part of black "comedy"? Aren't stereotypes all wrong and counterproductive to race relations? Some of us can dance, most of us are not rich, and we don't have very nasally voices. It's petty compared to false arrests and violence, but it doesn't help. That theme of PERCEIVED racism cuts both ways. Maybe the jokes are wrong, maybe the majority needs to learn to laugh at itself. Your own experiences will likely form your conclusion.
Those of us who rarely or never experience racism, because we don't practice it and don't see ourselves as victims of it, form a belief that it's over because that's what our own experience tells us. That leads to a false conclusion that we can all relate to each other, when in reality we still have to try to place ourselves in another man's shoes to understand where he has been.
What if a post-racial America is impossible? Is it even the right goal? In Chicago I get to see and experience many cultures, and it's far more interesting than homogenous communities. The differences are good because they spice up our lives. Instead of insisting we're all the same, maybe we should accept that we are different and see it as something to celebrate. Acceptance is a far more realistic goal than agreement anyway.
Posted By: Shockmaster (Guest) on July 23, 2009 at 01:55 PM
People should respect the authorities and realize that if something didn't look awry they wouldn't be called. Police Officers don't go to work to be openly insulted, Gates should never have followed the Sergeant outside. It's just a job, verbal abuse is still abuse.
Posted By: Guest#2689 (Guest) on July 23, 2009 at 02:06 PM
I'll agree with this.
The man was in his own house. Sure the cop can say that he was protecting the professor simply by responding, but I guarantee you that it took a GREAT DEAL of belligerence by the police officer to make the head of the WEB Dubois institute to act out in rage. Plain and simple. This is a case of a cop's feelings of superiority being hurt and lashing out in the only way that wouldnt get him canned: breaking out the cuffs...'just in case'...
I remember evacuating to Highland Park after Rita. I hate Dallas in general because of my experiences there. I'm a tan white guy, got pulled over 3 times, and was asked in Spanish whether or not I spoke English ALL 3 TIMES.
I'm normally not a fan of the 'racial profiling' card, but you hit the nail on the head with this one. Although the ghetto ex getting warrants does not help your cause any...lol
I can't (nor would I try to) argue with the listings after your main article, but you certainly aren't playing both sides of the coin, which is unfair. Every year there are numerous grotesque acts of violence by a group of black people on one or more white people. The gangrape, and subsequent burning, of a white couple on a date in North Carolina comes to mind quickly, along with all of the stories of white kids getting jumped at inner city schools on the grounds that they are white.
There is still a race issue in this country, and to deny it would be stupid, not naive. But to highlight the crimes perpetrated on blacks by whites while not flipping the coin is a bit juvenile.
And that's a problem across the board in the media. Black violence perpetrated on whites because the victims are white does nothing but swell the ranks of the KKK, which of course then results in more James Byrd type situations. It's a chicken or the egg analogy that needs to be destroyed altogether
Posted By: The Man (Guest) on July 23, 2009 at 02:25 PM
Shockmaster said "Those of us who rarely or never experience racism, because we don't practice it and don't see ourselves as victims of it, form a belief that it's over because that's what our own experience tells us."
That does lead to an interesting question I have. Among the recent experiences I bulletpointed in the article, how many had you heard about? I often wonder whether or not the majority is even aware of the sorts of things I mentioned in the article...
Posted By: J. Alexander Mitchell (Registered) on July 23, 2009 at 02:52 PM
do you feel better now that you got to rant. there, there, let it out...
Posted By: anti-messiah (Guest) on July 23, 2009 at 02:55 PM
I actually agree with xjuggernaughtx. I don’t think this is a case of racism as much as it is a cop getting off on his authority. I’ve seen it in all the places I’ve been to, not only in America, but all over the world.
I don’t see the problem with the police being called in the first place. Someone saw two men trying to forcibly enter a house. Seems like pretty good reasoning for me. Once the professor showed the cop his ID it should have ended there…on both ends. The cop should have left and the professor should have kept quite.
Both sides I think are a little wrong but as with all things in America it’s going to get blown out of proportion. Sometimes you people need to stop sensationalizing events like these so they’ll stop making front line news. Obama definitely should not have made mention of it. His acknowledgment just gives everyone else permission to beat it to death or whine and cry about how unfair the world is. Meanwhile the rest of us have to listen to this crap on a daily basis when there are more important things in the world to worry about.
Posted By: Un-American (Guest) on July 23, 2009 at 03:07 PM
Wow you really feel strong about what happened. I do too. I think it was a misunderstanding by the Officer. Maybe he was a rookie but he should of known not to do what he did. I think the cop got more worked up than Dr. Gates. All I know is President Obama got elected to president to make him the first black president ever. He didnt get into office by accident. Racism will always exist and it makes us all very angry, myself included. Obama cant erase racism. There's always going to be people that are jealous or for whatever reason, hate people for very bad reasons. I hate it and i want it to stop but it wont ever stop until we all realize we are all equal no matter what.
Posted By: Matt (Guest) on July 23, 2009 at 03:25 PM
The 2009 incident involved around 200 black activist and Black Panthers and roughly a dozen skinheads. There were no Klansmen there. The East Texas Klan decided not to be there. (From MSN)
As far as Gates goes, He was arrested because he followed the police officer outside yelling at him and then started yelling at people passing by. The officer was doing his job; investigating a possible break in. In the beginning he had no clue if the home was Gates'. Gates refused to show any ID initially. Even after the ID was shown and he had reason to believe the home was Gates', there was still the act of running him through the system, that is SOP. The officer does not know if Gates is wanted, has an OOP, or is a clean citizen.
Gates just wanted to be an ass because he was questioned. Obama had no right saying what he did to defend his friend. He admitted he did not know the whole story. This is a scholar at Harvard who follows the teachings of DuBois and wants to start trouble by seeing racist who are not there.
I have listened to people all day say that if Gates was white this never would have happened. Bull. If Gates was white, this would not have made the news, no one would have apologized, The President would not have commented on it and the white Gates would have to show up in court to plead on his Disorderly Conduct charge, and possibly more charges.
Posted By: Jim (Guest) on July 23, 2009 at 03:30 PM
I think the fact that the President responded to this incident publicly without knowing the facts of the case is a disgrace and proof that a race issue still exists in America (as if we needed one).
If anyone has read the police report, it seems that this guy just went nuts because the police came to his house, even though the heart of the situation was the police TRYING TO PROTECT HIS HOUSE FROM AN INTRUDER.
Besides - we all know the old white lady who called the break-in attempt in to the police was the real racist.
Posted By: Mitch Michaels (Registered) on July 23, 2009 at 04:05 PM
Please report accurately when making these accusations. "he eventually showed the officer both his driver's license and his Harvard ID". He only showed his Harvard ID at first and is NOT a proof of residence. Gates was also belligerent from the get go. Gates was LOOKING TO BE OFFENDED and LOOKING TO PLAY THE RACE CARD. The cop did nothing wrong in this case. When a police officer gets a call that there is a break in they don’t know what they could be walking into. I’m sure with all the cop killings these days that’s on their minds. All Gates had to do was be respectful and give the officer the information he needed for proof of residence from the start. Another thing conveniently missing from your article is that there were BLACK COPS on the SCENE. You want to know the real reason we can’t get past racism in this country is because people like Professor Gates, Rev. Al Sharpton, Rev. Jesse Jackson and YOU won’t let the country get past racism.
Posted By: Bill (Guest) on July 23, 2009 at 04:45 PM
I like how all you morons immediately accept the police report as gospel. Of course Gates is lying about what happened. What incentive would a police officer have to lie? The police department simply dropped charges out of the kindness of their hearts. We all know officers never lie, ever, about anything, to make themselves look in the right.
After all, that's why courts accept police reports as evidence right? Oh what was that, no they don't for the most part? Generally police reports are used by defense counsel to impeach credibility?
Posted By: Guest#7170 (Guest) on July 23, 2009 at 04:52 PM
Personally I had heard about James Byrd and the six involved in a battery. For me, there's the same sort of veil on such stories as the latest suicide bombings in the Middle East. If it didn't happen in my back yard, it has this distant and almost surreal quality. I know it happened, but there's a "things like that don't happen HERE" aspect that seems to keep it from impacting my world view.
Even six serious cases in a few years in a country of 300 million doesn't prove a trend. That Fox News guy had more of an impact on me first and foremost because I saw the clip of what he said with my own eyes and ears. But there's another element. It put on full display your point that racism is less overt today, which opens the door to it in fact being in my back yard, hiding out of plain sight. With that context, it becomes much easier to believe there is a more widespread problem than I realize.
Posted By: Shockmaster (Guest) on July 23, 2009 at 04:58 PM
In May of 2009, around 10:00 p.m. I was hitting golf balls in my outdoor driving range which cannot be seen from the street. I notice a search light's reflection as it was panning across the lawn and garage walls. It was a police officer. I thought they were looking for someone running through yard. Rather than immediately getting my gun, I peeked around the corner and was greeted by the search light in my grill and the proverbial "freeze, police, come out with your hands up". WtF! He was about forty yards away with right hand on holstered weapon. I yelled my name and that I owned the property. Blocking my eyes from light with hand, he tells me to walk slowly towards him with hands-up. I asked why, this is my property. He tells me to do it now as two more rollers enter drive way. I decide to comply but kept running my mouth. When I got within ten feet he asked for my ID. ID was inside house. I asked again why do I have to show ID while on my property. He told me to get the id and followed me to my door. I am starting to get pissed and raise my voice. The ID was right inside door so he and three other officers didn't have to enter. I came outside, they ran and returned my license. Agitated, I again asked where they get off harassing me on my property. The officer finally barked back, "look, I heard loud suspicious noises from the back of your house like someone may be breaking-in. When I pointed the light at you, you wouldn't take your hand from your face and were hiding behind the house."
So I escorted the cops behind the house to clearly and sarcastically demonstrate the noise he was hearing was me hitting golfs balls.
As they were leaving I was still mouthing off about the hub-bub when the officer turned and said, "Sir, we are not here to harass you, but to protect your property." It dawned on me that I should be grateful that they were actually looking after my property and apologized.
Although there is clearly a misunderstanding, nowhere do I hear anyone commending the police for quickly responding to a report that someone was trying to break-in to Mr. Gates' property and that he is lucky enough to have neighbors that give enough of a shit to call the police when they believed someone was damaging Mr. Gate's property.
Being suspicious of people who look different than you is hardwired into the human experience. If you judge our society against the never before realized in human history ideal of a post-racial society, America and every other culture will fall short; thereby determined a racist society.
Besides, much like my wife, Gate's is only three-fourths "black". He should be more accurate when pretending to be an oppressed black man.
Posted By: AdmChesterMynuts (Guest) on July 23, 2009 at 05:32 PM
Why are the only victims of racism you listed are black people?I have a couple more for your list I'm sure you might have missed.
Feruary 27th 2001 Kevin Kime killed by several black gang members at a downtown fat tuesday celebration that turned into a race riot in Seattle, WA.One of the criminals admitted it was a "race war"
Killeen, TX - A white couple, Todd and Stacy Bagley are
kidnapped on the way to church, lit on fire, burned to death and shot
in the head by four blacks.
Alexandria, VA - An eight year old white child, Kevin
Shiffiet, is killed when his throat is slit by a black who also stabs
his 80 year old great grandmother and punches her in the chest.
Police find a hand rambling note stating. "Kill them raceess whiate
kidd's anyway".
Alton, Illinois - A white male, Richard Skelton, is
attacked and stomped to death by a group of 25 blacks while black
onlookers yell, "Kill the cracker".
I have several more J.Alexander, I got those from martinlutherking.org. Racism goes both way yet you only focus on crimes when its black people that are the victims.
I guess we havent come along way at all. Have we?
Posted By: John (Guest) on July 23, 2009 at 07:19 PM
I think your article is hitting on some good points J, but your evidence as it were is rather weak. You were pulled over four times for stuff cops pull you over for.
I was pulled over not long ago because there was some dirt buildup on my tags and the cop thought my tag was expired.
I was pulled over a year or two ago for speeding and the cop harassed me about smoking weed, which, I hadn't.
I was lost a few years ago and got turned around in a neighborhood and the cops pulled me over, AT GUN POINT and searched my car. They were all over me, wondering what I was doing. Did I get ticketed for anything? Hell no, I got directions to where I was trying to go. That doesn't mean that I wasn't harassed for 45 minutes AT GUN POINT, because I drove around a neighborhood two or three times.
Race had no factor in ANY of these instances. It was just crappy Police work. The cops never had anything on me, I had never done anything (sans some really minor speeding) and the cops felt they were "protecting" their neighborhoods by harassing me.
If I'd back talked them in any of those instances, I would have been arrested. In fact, in the one instance I'd probably been SHOT... And none of it would have made the local news, much less the National dialogue.
I think Gates got a raw deal and the Police did in fact act as President Obama said, "Stupidly". Unfortunately cops act stupidly all the time. But we still call them when burgulars are at our door.
Just because the cops are stupid, doesn't mean they are racist.
Oh and every situation you linked above, I had heard about. I think you sorely misrepresented many of them however. Despite what you listed, it is VERY hard for white victims to get hate crime charges against black offenders, even if the attacks are clearly racially motivated and provoked. The door swings both ways with that one.
I do think your overall point is valid, but I think you're missing some bigger key issues.
Posted By: Jake G (Guest) on July 23, 2009 at 09:22 PM
This will never end.
People like to belong to clubs, and like to fit into groups.
Posted By: Ant-LOX (Guest) on July 23, 2009 at 10:27 PM
J. Alexander
I don't want you to think I hang out on martinlutherking.org often.I googled black crimes against white people and the site came up.I thought it was a positive site about the reverend.Only later did I find out it was a front for hateful dickheads.
I did check and everything I listed happened.The Seattle thing hit close to home.
It might surprise you I actually agree with you when it comes to the professor from Harvard. I am sorry for not checking my source better. I guess thats why I comment and you write.
My apology.
Posted By: John (Guest) on July 24, 2009 at 12:30 AM
Overt racism for a white Texan's perspective: I'm concerned about Obama's "leadership" and the way he and his administration are fostering racism. Beginning with his inauguration (final prayer -- "whites do what's right" , then statements by Holder, and now, leveling personal accusations against a cop regarding an altercation he knows little about, Obama is encouraging blacks to keep chips on their shoulders for unsuspecting whites to knock off. This is racist to its core.
I've had to deal with these "race baiters" who assume that any criticism leveled at them is racist, even if it's a justifiable criticism. (I think this is part of the reason blacks have higher unemployment - I know for a fact that HR people have steered clear of blacks with even a hint of that chip on their shoulder because hiring a race baiter opens the door to strife and law suits).
Obama will squander the opportunity, I expect, but he should apologize to the officer and the nation. To the officer for leveling an unfounded accusation. To the nation for demeaning the office of the president (Imagine: the most powerful man in the world, during a prime time press conference before an audience of millions, publicly accusing a police sergeant of acting stupidly!). Gates should also publicly apologize to the officer as his actions clearly undermine the cooperation between law enforcement and the community. If Obama and Gates were to acknowledge that they over-reacted then they would be setting the stage for meaningful dialogue. Their admission that it is possible for blacks to foment racism just as any white supremacist would go a long ways toward resolving the race problems we have. This boil needs to be lanced.
Posted By: Randall Hilton (Guest) on July 24, 2009 at 02:20 AM
How about a show of hands for everyone that was at the scene? That’s what I thought………
Posted By: anti-messiah (Guest) on July 24, 2009 at 09:03 AM
wasnt the 1995 aquital of OJ proof racism is a dead issue? Heres a guy who killed whitey, got away with it, then wrote a book saying how he would have done it. quite impressive.
Posted By: Bryan Jones (Guest) on July 24, 2009 at 11:34 AM
"Racism goes both way yet you only focus on crimes when its black people that are the victims."
HAHA! Because of all the white guilt shoved down everyone's throat, anytime ANYONE brings up the fact there are more racial attacks on whites by blacks, they get labeled an evil white racist.
Posted By: Guest#9621 (Guest) on July 24, 2009 at 07:25 PM
Please note that, for things to get better, there needs to be more understanding from both sides - Minorities need to understand that there is usually an explanation for most things that is not race-related, while the majority should understand that there are very valid reasons why one may see race.
I was specific in where my examples came from for a reason that was cited - this is what I was aware of. Reading John G.'s list was very enlightening; I think we both need to know what is going on. However, these examples only go to further show my point - whether it is white-on-black or black-on-white, it is obvious that racism is still an issue that we need to work on in this country.
Posted By: J. Alexander Mitchell (Guest) on July 25, 2009 at 08:10 AM
J.Alexander,
We agree on something.You said it well on your last comment.
When I was in college, I was riding with a teammate of mine, he was black in a small town were the population was 95% white. He got pulled over 3 times in 10 minutes.Twice by the same cop.We complained to no avail. It made me sick.
While I can not say I have walked in your shoes, I have seen ignorant behavior.I am glad that you see it goes both ways. With the professor case, the cop should have kept walking.Late.
Posted By: John (Guest) on July 26, 2009 at 03:14 PM
"The interesting part is whether or not race was involved and,..."
It sounds like race is involved with every aspect of the esteemed Professor's life. A neighbor calls 911. Cops respond. Professors just KNOWS they respond because he's black. Riiiight. If they didn't respond then it would be racist because the cops don't care if a black home is being burglarized. Chip this is my good friend Shoulder.
Posted By: demOcratic (Guest) on July 27, 2009 at 03:21 PM