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An Open Letter To Liberals and Democrats
Posted by J. Alexander Mitchell on 09.02.2009



President Obama's plans for health care reform are in trouble. Those that want to see the plan succeed and would argue this point are fooling themselves. The public's opinion – specifically, the opinion of the independent segment of the population that was key to his election - on both health care reform and Obama's handling of domestic issues have both plummeted, and, as mentioned on this site, the majority of Americans are confused as to what is and is not on the table in the debate. The latest reports say that the President is willing to hit a "reset" button on the debate, this time laying out specific plans rather than simply allowing Congress to write legislation following his criteria. Like the President, I believe now is the time to hit the "reset" button on how those that support health care reform engage in our discussions about the matter. It is rather obvious that the current strategies are not useful, so it is time to modify the battle plan. As such, I have written, as inspired by Joshua White's "A Letter From A Conservative", my thoughts to the supporters of health care reform.

The first, and biggest, note I would make is to ensure that you have a discussion about health care reform. There are huge differences between an intellectual debate and an emotional argument. Many detractors to health care reform have viewpoints that originate from an emotional standpoint, and that is understandable. If you are 65, are on Medicare, and feel that the program is problematic already, are you going to want to chance any huge or sweeping changes, even if they are made in the name of efficiency? People's feelings are valid no matter what – that is what makes them feelings. It is very important to say "Yes, I understand your viewpoint. Moving in this direction does require a certain level of trust in the government".

Of course, that begs the question "How do we gain that trust"? It is at this point that we can begin an intellectual debate, and, in that arena, I firmly believe that proponents of health care reform will prevail. If we are yelling emotional talking points parroted by our favorite partisan talking head – be it Chris Matthews or Bill O'Reilly – reform will never take place. However, if we are in the midst of a genuine discussion about the facts ("No, the ‘end of life counseling' only lets those people that want to talk about options like living wills and potential funeral costs get that advice if they want it. It does not involve trying to decide who gets to live or die. It's just like counseling before you get married – letting you know the facts so you can make your own decision"), I firmly believe that reform will occur.

This segues into another huge point – it is very possible to inform someone that they are incorrect without insulting the person, and there has never been a better time to do so than now. Again, there is an emotional aspect to this. Calling someone that does believe that they will never be able to buy private insurance if they lose their private insurance after the bills get passed "an idiot" does not win over the hearts of the public (and that includes the behavior exhibited by Representative Barney Frank when confronted by a protester that compared Obama to Hitler).

As well, we should not be afraid to enter into fierce but respectful conversation about valid questions that the opposition wants answered. I greatly look forward to the President offering a specific plan towards reform, as I hope it will answer many of the very valid questions the opposition has (specifically, how we will pay for it without increasing the deficit). One very frequent question I have seen is "What is so great about the health care reform bill?" I think we, as proponents of reform, should be able to answer that question. I like to begin by establishing that both sides of the aisle want reform – this is evidenced by the Patients Choice Act sponsored by US Senators Coburn and Burr and US Representatives Ryan and Nunez, all Republicans. I would then mention that there is not one specific bill, so it isn't helpful to ask what is so great about it. Instead, the conversation should be about what aspects of the varying bills, including the PCA, would work best. There are many aspects of health care reform – such as the removal of limitations based on pre-existing conditions and the establishment of health care exchanges in each state to serve as "one stop shops" for information in the state – that both sides agree are great ideas that would help reform our system for the better. In addition, it is difficult to argue that the removal of inefficiencies in Medicare and Medicaid are problematic. I continually cite many things both sides of the aisle agree on because, to be honest, much of the reform packages include things that both sides agree on. I personally prefer to avoid discussion of having a public option because I believe, like CNN Senior Analyst Gloria Borger, that President Obama will drop the public option in favor of being able to say that the Democrats attempted bi-partisanship and the Republicans stonewalled it. This is a matter of conjecture at this point; however, if President Obama truly did not want to attempt bi-partisanship, he could have had Congress ram an incredibly liberal package through the Senate, provided the plans allow them to utilize reconciliation in the Senate. As a whole, though, I think that the public option is a radioactive topic that polarizes audiences and prevents true discussion – and, as such, keeps opinions on reform negative. Note that I am not saying that I am against a public option – I do believe it is a great idea and that our public/private universities, long distance mail carriers, hospitals, and even military (Blackwater anyone?) show that we can have a public option for our needs while still maintaining a viable, profitable private system. However, I recognize reality, and the reality is that, if one is going to sell reform, it is easiest to avoid the single biggest non-essential polarizing aspect.

As an aside, please do not be afraid to be wrong. Listen to the other side. There are solid arguments against individual aspects of reform that should be acknowledged. If you want someone to listen to you, you should begin by actively listening to them.

Finally, and this is perhaps the biggest point, ensure that discussion of health care remains discussion of health care. Many opponents to health care reform seek to defeat health care reform by making opposition to health care reform equivalent to opposition to the bailout, stimulus package, cap and trade, etc.. These issues have nothing to do with health care reform. Again – both sides of the aisle agree something must be done, and nothing will get done about health care reform as long as it is associated with a number of other controversial topics that aren't relevant to the debate at hand.

As I mentioned, I am very pro-health care reform as presented by President Obama. In the discussions I've had with conservative friends and associates, I have come to the conclusion that both conservatives and liberals want change in the system, and want a streamlined, efficient, cost-effective health care system. In fact, I would dare say that the difference between my viewpoint and those of the conservatives with which I've exchanged ideas is that I – like the President – also want to see coverage of some sort extended to the uninsured and underinsured, whereas those I've met that oppose President Obama's plans believe that it simply is not cost-effective to do so. If viewed from this slant, we can still get a considerable amount done to make health care more affordable for all and, while we are at it, have a true debate on the direction to move in. However, we – as those that seek reform – need to be very careful about how we pitch this reform if we want to see true change made.

Other thoughts:
Ashish has officially put the call out to new political bloggers. Shockmaster, JWestmoreland, Da Man, AdmChesterMyNutz, Chris Connolly (yes, I know you used to write for the site… wassupwitdat?), and the Spook… I am now officially waiting to read your new columns.


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Shockmaster and The Spook rule the World!!!!!!

Posted By: danman (Guest)  on September 02, 2009 at 04:15 PM

 
 
How I missed danman and gwpbrian is beyond me. Clearly I'm still getting back up to speed from my writing break...

Posted By: J. Alexander Mitchell (Guest)  on September 02, 2009 at 04:27 PM

 
 
i would be willing to bet that all these psople that hold up the military's medical care program as an example that can be used nationwide have never actually been treated by the military medical system. as someone who has, I can say it is not that good. Case in point, when i was in training, one of my squadmates had an ingrown toenail. he went to see a doctor, showed said doctor the toe, and the doc gave him motrin and sent him back to duty. quality medical care wouldn't you say?

Posted By: dan (Guest)  on September 02, 2009 at 05:02 PM

 
 
I don't need to read any column by the Spook. If I want that much insane right-wing invective I'll just watch Glenn Beck.

Posted By: EPIC CAT (Guest)  on September 02, 2009 at 05:13 PM

 
 
I have issues with paying for the healthcare of others. The elderly and disabled, I have no problem with, but to pay for the lazy and the ones who choose not to cover their family is not my responsibility. There is no mention in the Constitution where Congress has the right to take my money to provide healthcare to the lazy.

Now if the government were to force insurance companies to lower premiums and let people choose what coverage they get is one thing, but for the government to 1) compete against insurance companies with our tax dollars 2) force citizens to either pay an outrageous price from insurance companies or an outrageous price from the government are beyond the scope of the government and unconstitutional at best.


Posted By: Jim (Guest)  on September 02, 2009 at 05:38 PM

 
 
Aye, Aye, Matey.

Reconciliation occurs in both houses of congress as it is designed to reconcile individuals spending bills from appropriations committees (bottom-up) with the Budget Committees budget outlook (top-down). Created in Budget Reform Act of 1974 as a method to get a handle on runaway spending of Great Society and impoundment of appropriated funds by Nixon.

All the topics you list are relevant in that they are all based on OPM. If health care reform results in more of my money being confiscated to service debt and fund spending programs, they are similar and therefore relevant.

J. I truly appreciate your gracious offer. Hopefully a better solution will emerge.


Posted By: AdmChesterMynutz (Guest)  on September 02, 2009 at 06:02 PM

 
 
Hold on, I'm assuming you are taking the conservative side of the health care debate are you are actually saying you want the government to FORCE insurance companies to lower their rates, isn't this some form of liberal communism, or liberal socialism, or liberal anti-capitalism ideas, Spook which one is it.

Posted By: RIKegger (Guest)  on September 02, 2009 at 09:23 PM

 
 
thanks for a well written, thoughtful commentary, even though I'm on the opposite side of the argument. One concern I have, aside from the obvious one of cost, that I've heard mentioned but never really addressed, is preventative care. It's been stated that if the uninsured had access to everyday health care the incidents of emergency care would go down. I agree completely, but what about the flip-side?

I'm not comfortable with the government forcing me and others to pay for the treatment of those who choose not to take care of themselves. Obesity, for example, is a major problem in this country, and it's primarily due to behavior.

How would you, or anyone, propose we handle the situation of people who just won't help themselves?

And to be clear, I'm not referring to anyone with genetic problems. Just those who choose to unhealthy.


Posted By: Guest#8694 (Guest)  on September 02, 2009 at 09:44 PM

 
 
I appreciate the offer, but I work many odd hours, and don't have time. I would like to point out, I'm not one of the ones that complain that this site is too "left leaning". I actually like the fact that I can get a sample of what the left thinks about things, and would probably get along just fine with any of you at a ball game or at the bar, even Zimmer.

Posted By: gwpbrian (Guest)  on September 02, 2009 at 11:18 PM

 
 
Discussion? Ha! Just call those who disagree stupid or crazy so as to not to disturb your intellectual narcissism. Oh, and quote them in a funny voice.

Posted By: C (Guest)  on September 03, 2009 at 09:00 AM

 
 
Guest#8694 - I will answer your question with a question: How do we differentiate those for whom obesity is a medical issue from those that are lazy? I, for example, happen to have a very fast metabolism, so I can stay in shape by making simple day-to-day adjustments to work exercise into my schedule (taking the stairs instead of the elevator, parking on the far side of the parking lot, etc.). However, if someone has a naturally slow metabolism, does it make them lazy if they regularly exercise and still don't lose weight?

I have an issue with opinions, such as Jim's, that say that those that can't get healthcare are "lazy". There are lazy people out there. However, there are also those out there that simply can't afford or don't have access to health care. I know of someone that was a college educated (degree in Computer Science) programmer that lost his job due to the tech downturn and then found out he had Lupus. He was fortunately able to get on his wife's insurance but if he would have been single, he would have been screwed. He's far from lazy, but would have been financially ruined if he were not fortunately married.

In both of these scenarios I find myself asking "How do you manage to avoid throwing out the baby with the bathwater..."


Posted By: J. Alexander Mitchell (Guest)  on September 03, 2009 at 10:48 AM

 
 
I think the key to this whole health care debate is this: the system we have now with private (CORPORATE) health care companies DOES NOT WORK. Period. It is just a dismal failure. There are very few people who would argue that this is incorrect (and to those who would say it's fine I have to wonder when the last time you were sick was). That said, Republicans seem to want to block EVERYTHING reforming healthcare. They know it doesn't work and still DO NOT want to work on changing things (or, if they do, they want to give the insurance companies MORE power, which is exactly what we should not do: the idea that they can drop you for getting sick because it effects their bottom line when their JOB IS TO INSURE YOUR HEALTH is utterly insane).

Posted By: Madcap Unlimited (Guest)  on September 03, 2009 at 12:21 PM

 
 
J. Alexander Mitchell:

FYI - I have just sent a sample blog to Ashish, so we'll see how it goes.


Posted By: Shockmaster (Guest)  on September 03, 2009 at 01:21 PM

 
 
Kick ass, Shockmaster!

Posted By: J. Alexander Mitchell (Guest)  on September 03, 2009 at 01:36 PM

 
 
How about doing something sensible like establishing large risk pools and offering major medical policies with a $5,000 deductible at an affordable price? This would keep people from being beggared by a major illness and disincent people from running to the doctor twice a week for trivial matters. And also pre-empt state laws on medical malpractice, establishing review of malpractice cases by people who actually know something, rather than moron judges and dufus jurors. This would allow diagnosis an treatment to be based on rational criteria rather than the arbitrary and idiotic caprices of our courts.

Posted By: Chuck Cardiff (Guest)  on September 03, 2009 at 01:51 PM

 
 
Chuck: Whereas a large pool situation would be helpful in terms of reducing the month to month costs of care, I can't see how it would be helpful in increasing either quality of care nor overall costs. How does that scenario help people pay for preventative care (i.e. "let's get some help BEFORE you get obese, break your leg, or get cancer")? It is a lot cheaper to catch things early than to wait for it to be catastrophic and then see a doctor.

I know the PCA has provisions similar to the one you are mentioning about having doctors judge themselves in reference to malpractice, though I can't recall off the top of my head whether or not it is in the House bills. That does seem like an idea worth researching.


Posted By: J. Alexander Mitchell (Guest)  on September 03, 2009 at 02:32 PM

 
 
I'd really like to see two things come out of this healthcare debate:

1) I'd like to maintain a healthy level of private companies, but with aggressive government oversight. We need to know WHY all of this healthcare costs so much. Is it malpractice insurance? Is it corporate bilking? Is it to help fund future research or make up for past research? We've had doctors since the beginning of technology. We always paid for it before. How is it so out of control now? And funny that it somehow began getting totally out of control when we began corporatizing it with HMOs and the like. My money is on insurance. Once you take money out of the equation, people don't mind paying and doctors don't mind prescribing. I mean, WHY NOT have that $10,000 battery of tests, YOU aren't paying. If you were paying again, doctors would think twice about asking for them.

2) I'd like to see a bare bones public option that covered low level things. Physicals, minor emergency, cold and flu. That way, the average person would have something to turn to if they didn't have health insurance. It wouldn't be great, but it would be there. On top of that, you could get better health coverage if you joined a private plan. It's like having the Post Office and UPS. No one goes to the post office for critical Next Day Air packages. They go when they need to mail a little letter for cheap. The public healthcare should be a cheap, easy to use option, but nothing spectacular.

I don't really see how this is much different than many of our other services. If I want to get downtown, I can take the publicly funded bus, or I can drive myself. The bus is slow and crowded, but cheap, and I don't have to find a place to park. My car is fast and tailored just for me, but more expensive. I have the option of either, and I like that.


Posted By: xjuggernaughtx (Guest)  on September 03, 2009 at 05:56 PM

 
 
Guest#8694 - I will answer your question with a question: How do we differentiate those for whom obesity is a medical issue from those that are lazy? ...

Posted By: J. Alexander Mitchell (Guest) on September 03, 2009 at 10:48 AM

That's part of the problem, isn't it? First we have to accept that most obese (not heavy, obese) people are that way by their own actions, not genetics or society or whatever. Sure, a small percentage have conditions that a doctor should be able to diagnose, but the last two generation didn't suddenly get an excessive dose of "slow metabolism" or "thyroid problems".

And that was just an example - smokers, heavy drinkers, drug users, etc. are others.

The point is that it's not easy to convince people to help those who refuse to help themselves.

Preventative care should be a cornerstone of any health program (ask any doctor), but if it's not going to be effective then selling the plan becomes a lot harder.

BTW - I don't have an answer. You can't force people to be healthy in a free society, and you can't charge people who have no money.


Posted By: Guest#6499 (Guest)  on September 03, 2009 at 07:23 PM

 
 
To Guest: There was a recent cover article in Time that suggests that exercise is not nearly as helpful in terms of pure weight reduction as other factors, particularly diet: http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1914857,00.html . If this is the case, then the equation changes dramatically. Unhealthy food is cheap; therefore, eating healthier becomes a budgetary issue. As well, one must know HOW to eat healthy; that becomes an educational issue.

I think that verbiage in the legislature to further promote health education would go a long way, but that suddenly has the federal government sticking its nose further into education, which many people have issues with.

It is easy to say "I don't want to pay for lazy fat people", but the root of the issue of obesity in the United States is not nearly that cut and dry.


Posted By: J. Alexander Mitchell (Guest)  on September 04, 2009 at 08:37 AM

 
 
" I'd like to see a bare bones public option that covered low level things. Physicals, minor emergency, cold and flu"

If its the same in the US as it is in Canada, the hospitals are overrun with hypochondriacs and wimps who waste time on minor problems that could easily be taken care of a family doctor or neighborhood clinic.

How about a fee for a visit that is refunded if the doctor diagnoses a condition that is deemed medically necessary.

And get those drug ads of the air. They feed the hypochondriac.


Posted By: Mikel (Guest)  on September 04, 2009 at 10:06 PM

 
 
" I'd like to see a bare bones public option that covered low level things. Physicals, minor emergency, cold and flu"

If its the same in the US as it is in Canada, the hospitals are overrun with hypochondriacs and wimps who waste time on minor problems that could easily be taken care of a family doctor or neighborhood clinic.

How about a fee for a visit that is refunded if the doctor diagnoses a condition that is deemed medically necessary.

And get those drug ads of the air. They feed the hypochondriac.

Posted By: Mikel (Guest) on September 04, 2009 at 10:06 PM

No visit to a public plan doctor should be free. It should be cheap. That way the people that don't really need it but show up anyway are sharing part of the load. I'd love to see a $25 per visit charge, but $10 of that goes to cover prescription cost if you need it. If you show up to the doctor and you don't need a prescription or medical treatment (stitches, etc.), they you just had a $15 penalty for wasting people's time. That would help offset these morons that think every case of the sniffles is life-threating. I have a friend like that. It's irritating.

As for the drug ads, I agree. It's not something that people need to hear about. The average person is WAY to uneducated to make informed choices on drug treatments.


Posted By: xjuggernaughtx (Guest)  on September 05, 2009 at 04:24 PM

 
 
Oops. I meant a $10 penalty. And a public plan in my opinion should BE like going to a neighborhood clinic or family doctor. Major medical should be taken care of in private hospitals. I don't believe that the government should fool with heavy duty healthcare, but should have doctors that would refer patients to these major medical facilities if treatment is needed. Then the major facilities can bill the public facility.

Posted By: xjuggernaughtx (Guest)  on September 05, 2009 at 05:35 PM

 
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