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 411mania » Politics » Blog Entry
Have We Put 9/11 Behind Us?
Posted by Enrique on 09.11.2009





Happy Patriot Day, dear readers. As you are no doubt aware, today is the eighth anniversary of the terrorist attacks that changed America forever for a few years. Those of us who were alive that day will never forget the feelings of despair and powerlessness we experienced as we watched the footage of the twin towers collapse. Needless to say, anyone who knew someone who perished in the terrorist attacks that day experienced a loss few of us are able to comprehend. It is not a day any American will recall with fondness.

With each successive anniversary, the tragedy of that day grows more distant, and expressions of grief become more pro forma. Surely it must still be a powerfully sad day for New Yorkers, for whom it was a local event. But eight years on, national remembrances of 9/11 are fairly understated. President Barack Obama wrote an muted op-ed in the New York Daily News about how "today we are all New Yorkers," which is little more than a brief tribute to the victims with a little rah-rah about the Afghan war thrown in. The future of the Republican Party, Sarah Palin, issued a brief statement on her Facebook page calling for national unity and asking us to support the troops. Unlike past years when the GOP and its surrogates would flog the 9/11 horse vigorously, the right seems fairly sedate today (although I haven't heard Limbaugh or Beck yet). Fox News' coverage this morning was staid, as was CNN's. In fact, MSNBC was the network most gratuitously milking America's heartache, replaying the entire Today Show from eight years ago.

There's one person for whom every day must be 9/11, former VPOTUS Dick Cheney. Recently, Cheney has given several interviews criticizing the Obama administration's approach to dealing with the interrogation of suspected terrorists. He invariably claims Bush administration policies have been responsible for preventing another 9/11, as he did in this interview with Fox News Sunday's Chris Wallace: "Those interrogations were involved in the arrest of nearly all the Al Qaeda members that we were able to bring to justice. I think they were directly responsible for the fact that for eight years, we had no further mass casualty attacks against the United States."

Well, that's one way of looking at it. Another way of looking at it is a terrorist attack on the scale of 9/11 was an extraordinary event that only succeeded through the brutal tenacity of its authors, aided by the usual ineffectiveness of government officials. Simply put, it was a one-shot deal. There is no way a terrorist can ever again take over an airplane with a box-cutter. Although horrific, 9/11 was an anomalous event. With all due respect to Cheney, it isn't waterboarding that's forestalled another 9/11 – it's the fact 9/11 was an incredibly rare occurrence that's very unlikely to be repeated.

This morning, President Obama participated in some local 9/11 commemorations, where he's using the occasion as an opportunity to call for national service. While Obama says in his Daily News article he wants to continue to "take the fight to the extremists" in Afghanistan and Pakistan, by and large he's not using the occasion to rally American bellicosity. It may be a sign that the emotional resonance of the terrorist attacks has receded, and, for the most part, we've put 9/11 behind us. Maybe that's not a bad thing.


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Good post, Enrique.

On a somewhat unrelated note: Am I alone in thinking that labeling it "Patriot Day" is tacky?


Posted By: Zack (Guest)  on September 11, 2009 at 03:22 PM

 
 
The odd thing is that whenever I think of 9/11, I think of a Barenaked Ladies song called "Helicopters". The song was released before 9/11, yet explains the people's perception of it more and more accurately as time goes on.

Posted By: Chris Scott (Guest)  on September 11, 2009 at 03:25 PM

 
 
Enrique. Maybe I'm wrong but weren't some of the Terrorists based in the US,if so,they wouldn't NEED an airplane to commit another atrocity.

Posted By: Propagandhi (Guest)  on September 11, 2009 at 04:42 PM

 
 
We're at war? I thought the messiah would have seen the end to that.

Posted By: mr. x (Guest)  on September 11, 2009 at 04:47 PM

 
 
Anomalous event? Folks in Indonesia, London, Spain, Bali, and Bombay may beg to differ.

Posted By: AdmChesterMynutz (Guest)  on September 11, 2009 at 04:58 PM

 
 
Anyone who wants to diminish the importance of that day is a fucking scumbag through and through.

And to ENRIQUE, I don't believe I saw you cross out "forever" and replace it with a "few years". Those people are still dead, their families are still suffering and WE have not forgotten.

I would be happy, ENRIQUE, to give you my personal information and a place to meet up, if you get my drift you pussy.


Posted By: El Sexorcisto (Guest)  on September 11, 2009 at 05:15 PM

 
 
"We're at war? I thought the messiah would have seen the end to that."

I was waiting for someone to tie obama into this somehow. GOOD JOB!


Posted By: Jamal (Guest)  on September 11, 2009 at 05:32 PM

 
 
Hey 9/11 might not be repeated, but look at Iran and North Korea nuclear weapons program. You are as naive as any jackass in D.C. You wait and see, but you probably won't due to the fact that you won't have 1,000,000 degree sun block you dumb shit. You must not pay any attention to foregin current events. Get a clue and write a real article. 9/11 will always be remembered, just like Pearl Harbor. Wake up you fool.

Posted By: U.S. Veteran (Guest)  on September 11, 2009 at 05:37 PM

 
 
I want free Obama healthcare because I'm illegal alien. 9/11 was the only terrror act to ever happen. I'm the biggest dumbass on the face of the earth.

Posted By: Enrique (Guest)  on September 11, 2009 at 05:38 PM

 
 
I'm guessing that all of you buy the official story whole-heartedly and dismiss any question as "conspiracy theory." Just go ahead and read Charlie Sheen's letter to Obama that he just published. Even main stream news networks are treating it with respect.

Posted By: Dillrock (Guest)  on September 11, 2009 at 05:54 PM

 
 
A bad economy trumped the 9-11 tragedy as a focal point.

Posted By: Mikel (Guest)  on September 11, 2009 at 06:03 PM

 
 
I didn't forget. I just moved on with my life.

Posted By: Nick (Guest)  on September 11, 2009 at 06:13 PM

 
 
You are the biggest piece of shit Enrique for saying crossing out forever and putting in for a few years. Tell that to New Yorkers, Veterans from Pearl Harbor, and any other cities that have had acts of terror happen. You are the lowest piece of shit next to the person that original posted that they wished america to be blown up because they were canadian. I see that post has been taken down, but I remember seeing it here about an hour ago. You are a scumbag and I hope you rot in hell like Osama Bin Laden and the rest of the terrorist scumbags out there. You are a trader to humankind and you should be locked up and treated like a terroist. People are still dead and you have the adacity to write this. I'm surprised 411 has not fired you. Next time, don't do it. 9/11 will never be fogotten and never should be, nor any other acts of terror. I served my country shortly after 9/11 and have brother-in-arms, still serving. Tell them that we will eventually forget 9/11. I garantee you will never write trash like this again.

Posted By: Global War on Terror Vet (Guest)  on September 11, 2009 at 06:14 PM

 
 
"I didn't forget. I just moved on with my life.

Posted By: Nick (Guest) on September 11, 2009 at 06:13 PM"

Well said.

BTW,calm down Global War on Terror Vet. Opinions are like assholes,everybodys got one.


Posted By: Propagandhi (Guest)  on September 11, 2009 at 06:19 PM

 
 
Sad thing is civilains take their freedom for nothing. Pretty much we deserve everything hile the men and ween of the armed forces deserve shit. Don't take this out of context. Men and women of the armed forces deserve more freedom then civilans, because without them, you would have no freedom.

Thank a Soldier, Airmen, Seamen, or Marine the next time you see one. Let them know how much you appriciate them sacrificing their lives so you can still enjoy yours.

Here is a shout out to all the men and women in the U.S. Armed Forces, THANK YOU and you will never be forgotten.


Posted By: Thank You Armed Forces (Guest)  on September 11, 2009 at 06:21 PM

 
 
I have not forgotten.

Posted By: Ant-LOX (Guest)  on September 11, 2009 at 06:45 PM

 
 
What is with all the angry vitriol directed at Enrique for pointing out that the high angst and uber impact of 9/11 is slowly fading away from us?

Is there anything not factual about that?

9/11 was a tremendous tragedy. We lost a ton of innocent lives. It will live in many of our memories and our hearts for years to come.

But all tragedies eventually distance. The shock and pain of a parent's death grows more distant on year 8 than its impact on year 1.

Pearl Harbor's attack...you know, "a day that will live in infamy [forever]...didn't. Do we, as a country, still feel the same shock and awe on on 12/7/2008 as we did on 12/7/1942? Did we even feel the same high impact on 12/7/1949 for that matter?

All things fade in time. We may remember, but the impact is not the same.

Relax. Chill out. There are some real issues that deserve your anger and energy. The fact that an event which occurred 8 years ago no longer resonates as deeply as it did 8 years ago is not one of them.


Posted By: Crow21 (Guest)  on September 11, 2009 at 07:03 PM

 
 
I forgot after the United States murdered about 10 times more civilians in my home country than were killed in 9/11

Posted By: Jamie LeFoi (Guest)  on September 11, 2009 at 07:06 PM

 
 
Canada hates the usa

Posted By: Guest#3025 (Guest)  on September 11, 2009 at 08:47 PM

 
 
"Sad thing is civilains take their freedom for nothing. Pretty much we deserve everything hile the men and ween of the armed forces deserve shit. Don't take this out of context. Men and women of the armed forces deserve more freedom then civilans, because without them, you would have no freedom.

Thank a Soldier, Airmen, Seamen, or Marine the next time you see one. Let them know how much you appriciate them sacrificing their lives so you can still enjoy yours.

Here is a shout out to all the men and women in the U.S. Armed Forces, THANK YOU and you will never be forgotten."

As a member of the Armed Forces, I have to say -- your post makes no sense.

How do I deserve more freedom than someone I'm defending? If I'm given more then the person I'm supposed to be protecting that breeds resentment. That also completely negates the point of my job in the first place -- to defend freedom, regardless of who has it. If you start deciding who deserves more freedom than others then you've already sacrificed that freedom for comfort.

Also, not to sound ungrateful, but please don't thank me in person. When I'm in an airport for a PCS, TDY, or deployment, it gets to be seriously fucking annoying having sixty different people wanting to shake my hand. I get it. You're grateful. Just tell your Representative or Senator to not cut funding to the VA, and I'll be just as grateful as if you shook my hand. Probably more so.


Posted By: Guest#9495 (Guest)  on September 11, 2009 at 10:16 PM

 
 
I didn't forget because the shit is on non stop of my tv! Let's get over it. Stop living in the past.

Posted By: Trent (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 12:58 AM

 
 
**********
There's one person for whom every day must be 9/11, former VPOTUS Dick Cheney.
**********

Don't forget Rudy Giulianni. That scumbag was making the talk show rounds today. He gets down on his knees every night and thanks his maker for 9/11, as it made America forget what a corrupt dirtbag he was on 9/10.


Posted By: Scott B (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 01:05 AM

 
 
not to mention that 4500 babies were killed that day, the day after- and every day including today since then. Wake up, people.

Posted By: .. (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 01:30 AM

 
 
I wonder how many people have just forgot. None of the websites I visit on a daily basis had ANYTHING about 9/11 on them.

Now granted, these are forums that typically don't discuss politics at all, but occasionally they'd come up. You'd think some folks would at least post minor blurbs in memorial of 9/11, etc... But no, nothing.

I'm a bit surprised honestly.

But I guess after years of politicians milking it, movies milking it, etc, etc, people are just tired of it.

I know the morning gave me odd chills, remembering the horrific event.

I do think it was a chance event. Much like Pearl Harbor, it's unlikely that anything of that scale will happen anytime soon. It's not impossible, but much less likely.

If someone tries to takeover a plane now, be it with a box cutter or a machine gun, EVERYONE will fight back. Why? Because everyone will remember 9/11...

So in that sense, it's very unlikely to happen again. Give it 40 years and when people get complacent again we could see another incident.


Posted By: Jake G (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 01:55 AM

 
 
The military wouldn't have shit if the civilians didn't pay taxes.

Posted By: Propagandhi (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 02:35 AM

 
 
I actually am on welfare, thanks for the free hand outs. What is 9/11?

Posted By: Guest#9495 (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 02:49 AM

 
 
This article has as much taste as Chris Benoit supporters. I lost a family member during 9/11 at the Pentagon. Tell me and the thosands of others that lost family members that 9/11 can be forgotten. Brainwashed losers. Let Obama pull us out and then all of it was for nothing. Leave it to a liberal wuss to do so. It's easy to vote for a war, and its not like we are looking for WMDs. Come on. A pull out of Afganistan is just what they want us to do. All for nothing.

Posted By: Guest#123 (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 02:56 AM

 
 
Pull out of all wars, raise taxes and lets forget 9/11 ever happend.

Posted By: Propagandhi (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 03:02 AM

 
 
You all are losers. Poor americans. You can't even find 1 man in the mountains. Sad with all the funding that they gave the service. Such a waste. Pull the plug on the war and lets move on. The Armed Forces have proven they cannot find Osama Bin Laden. How hard is it to find 1 guy? I hope congress pulls the plug on the armed forces like they will with grandma and grandpa, when Obamacare starts.

Posted By: Pelosi Rules (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 03:19 AM

 
 
Armed Forces people, how long is it going to take you to find Osama? Taking long enough. Sad thing is, we will be pulled out of Iraq before they even get close to finding Osama Bin Laden. What a waste of funding. Service Memebers, get a real job.
Seriously, you can't find any WMDs, you can't find Osama Bin Laden, why are we paying you again? Or rather, what are we paying you for? Your all equally worthless. Cut the VA and funding of the armed forces and spend it or real things for America, like Obamacare for illegals. Atleast we could be saving lives instead of wasting them.


Posted By: Wasteful Spending (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 03:35 AM

 
 
I earned my liberties, what did the rest of you do to earn it? Jack shit I bet. Now, que the flames comments.

Posted By: Ex Service Member (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 04:39 AM

 
 
Crow21 and the vet that disputed the thought of having more right to freedom than anyone else, thank you. That's the America I grew up in. Right-wingers are making it a scary, scary, unrecognizable place.

Posted By: Dr. Venkman (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 05:10 AM

 
 
Also, Guest 9495, don't take this the wrong way, but that was one of the few correspondences from a vet I've ever read that didn't sound like he or she had been brain-washed by the military. I judge politicians on a lot of things, but one thing that drove me crazy about Bush (though I could write a book!) is that he talked so tough about vets, and he slashed the shit out of your benefits. I was appalled, and yet some people just don't pay attention to things like that. You seem like a great American, and while I won't shake your hand, and may have offended you, I am glad to finally know there are people like you put there protecting me. You seem like a great American.

And to people who keep attacking Obama for being a "messiah", why don't you give him more than 200 days to clean up your guy's epic mistakes. Or, you know, how long we'd all give a white male.


Posted By: Dr. Venkman (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 05:18 AM

 
 
**********
You are a trader to humankind
**********

What does he trade? Baseball cards?

It's amazing how the supposed "true patriots" (a.k.a. Republicans) usually turn out to be illiterate mouth-breathers.


Posted By: Scott B (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 09:51 AM

 
 
Why is Cheney never asked a few simple logical questions?


Interviewer -

"So if we are attacked tomorrow, who's fault is it?"

Dick -

"Obama....grrr....grrr....."

"OK then by that logic, when we were attacked on 9/11/01, it was Bush's fault, correct?"

"NO! It was the previous administration's fault.....GRRRR....GRRRR"

"OK I can follow that logic. But then, wouldn't that mean if we are attacked tomorrow, it would be the previous administration's fault? Your Bush administration?"

"GRRRR....SOCIALISM.TERROR.WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.OIL PROFITS, errrr..."

BOOM. Heart attack number 77.

The End.


Posted By: SeanS (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 11:46 AM

 
 
I lost a family member that day due to the events of 9/11. Thank you for the numerous cold hearted comments. I hope you all die like my loved one did.

Posted By: Life is not the Same (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 12:27 PM

 
 
Wow, I don't envy you Enrique. You said "9/11" that's one of those emotional things that just make some people crazy no matter WHAT you say about it.

If I said "9/11 was not about whoopie cushions and joy buzzers!" I'd get flamed for claiming 9/11 was a joke. People these days think they are too good for context. It's sad really.


Posted By: Madcap Unlimited (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 12:59 PM

 
 
First and foremost, I have been reading the political section of this site for a year or so. Even when I disagree I never felt the need to comment because the majority of these comments are never read by the author...but in this case I felt the need to comment on this article.

First, the statement: "today is the eighth anniversary of the terrorist attacks that changed America forever a few years." is despicable. Whether you feel you are unaffected at this point is your own personal feelings but to say the nation no longer feels the pain of the day is not true. That is a generalization and when we speak generalizations we hurt the arguments of the case we are building.

As time goes on, yes, the day becomes more distant but we as a nation have not forgotten. At this time, we are fighting two wars: one that people may not agree with and one that was the direct result of this event. The lives lost are a constant remind of that awful day.

The next thing that caught my eye was the "Anomalous event" statement. I understand you meant on U.S. soil but this attack was an attack on the ideas of a wide variety of nations. We are told by the current administration that we are a global community and as AdmChesterMynutz said those attacked in Indonesia, London, Spain, Bali, and Bombay have been affected by same terrorism we felt on 9/11.

It is important to live our lives. I understand many on this site despise our former president but he made a statement that hold true: "Americans are asking: What is expected of us? I ask you to live your lives..." (Address to a Joint Session of Congress Following 9/11 Attacks). If we fail to live then those who perpetrated the attacks got the result they wanted.

Finally, I know this is a political section but for God sakes don't attempt to politicizes this event with the Dick Cheney talk. Enough is enough.


Posted By: TLM3066 (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 01:41 PM

 
 
Canada hates the usa

Posted By: Guest#3025 (Guest) on September 11, 2009 at 08:47 PM

I need to expand on that, being Canadian and all.

Loonie left wingers, pansy-ass liberals and tree hugging nuts hate America.

The rest of us don't.


Posted By: Mikel (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 02:35 PM

 
 
What is with all the angry vitriol directed at Enrique for pointing out that the high angst and uber impact of 9/11 is slowly fading away from us?

Is there anything not factual about that?

9/11 was a tremendous tragedy. We lost a ton of innocent lives. It will live in many of our memories and our hearts for years to come.

But all tragedies eventually distance. The shock and pain of a parent's death grows more distant on year 8 than its impact on year 1.

Pearl Harbor's attack...you know, "a day that will live in infamy [forever]...didn't. Do we, as a country, still feel the same shock and awe on on 12/7/2008 as we did on 12/7/1942? Did we even feel the same high impact on 12/7/1949 for that matter?

All things fade in time. We may remember, but the impact is not the same.

Relax. Chill out. There are some real issues that deserve your anger and energy. The fact that an event which occurred 8 years ago no longer resonates as deeply as it did 8 years ago is not one of them.

Posted By: Crow21 (Guest) on September 11, 2009 at 07:03 PM

Well said imo


Posted By: da juice (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 03:14 PM

 
 
"Just go ahead and read Charlie Sheen's letter to Obama that he just published."

LMAO. Yeah, because b-list actors know about shit like this, right? Charlie Sheen's going to bring the whole system down!!! Moron.


Posted By: Guest#4098 (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 04:12 PM

 
 
911 was an inside job

Posted By: Guest#7662 (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 05:21 PM

 
 
I bet if you all lost a loved on in the 9/11 attacks you would all be singing a different tune. I lost my brother and wife that day because of it. Thanks all for wanting to forget about it, but its still hard for some of us.

Posted By: Victim (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 05:26 PM

 
 
Who ever said you have to shake a soldier's hand in the comments? In my book you are both equal. I mean equally retarted. Arguing about the military crap on a 9/11 forum. SOund like a bunch of kids. Grow up and quit drinking the Kool-Aid.

Posted By: Dr. Venkman Is A Loser Too (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 06:00 PM

 
 
Dr. Venkman, you come off like a complete racist. White Man. Caucasian might be the politcally correct term. We don't call African Americans people of color, black, or any other dirogitry names. Go back to cave you came from.

Posted By: Get A Clue (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 06:03 PM

 
 
Barrack Obama and Osama Bin Laden are the same people. Hollywood can do great things with special effects.

Posted By: Right (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 06:05 PM

 
 
Service Memebers suck and are the reason for higher taxes. Spending money on your retarted wars. Maybe if the money was spent in Obamacare we would be a little better off. F the service and everything you people represent.

Posted By: Dr. Venkman (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 06:24 PM

 
 
Yep.

Posted By: Mr. Venkman (Guest)  on September 12, 2009 at 11:08 PM

 
 
"The military wouldn't have shit if the civilians didn't pay taxes."

And we'd also have no roads, a very tiny number of schools, far fewer hospitals, and no cops. What's your point? It's a two-way street. People pay taxes for services that benefit the public interest. The military benefits the American public. I'll exclude the defending part, and point to the fact that all stateside military bases pump money into local economies by providing jobs to civilians. They also provide the military personnel stationed at the bases that spend money in the local economy through rent, taxes, bars, retail, and so on.


Posted By: Guest#5089 (Guest)  on September 13, 2009 at 12:10 AM

 
 
What exactly do you want? Round up every brown person you see, accuse them of being terrorists, then kill, beat, or otherwise injure them? We moved on from that and are busy trying to get the people that actually attacked us. I'm sorry you are in a hate mongering minority but there are tons of people like you right in Suffolk County and in the mid-west, and every other place that has a large KKK contingent.

Why do you want to "celebrate" a national tragedy? Do you celebrate the assassinations of JFK and Lincoln too? Does it piss you off that we don't throw parades on those days? What about Pearl Harbor, do you cry every year that we don't have dances in the street commemorating Pearl Harbor?

Terrible article. Written solely to get a rise out of those that have lost family or have otherwise been negatively impacted by 9/11. I'm sure you're not from NY, where the impact was the worst. Incidentally, we're not the ones that gave Bush the second term on his terror campaign, we wanted to move on back then but the rest of the country decided Bush deserved a second term on something that impacted us the most.

I'm glad we're moving on. That was a terrible time for everybody except the terrorists. We're finally recovering. Nobody has forgotten anything, we've just moved forward. You're like some rape victim that brags about being raped everywhere she goes for 10 years. Yeah we sympathized especially at first, but we don't want to be anywhere near you if you can't fix your life and move on.


Posted By: Guest#1572 (Guest)  on September 13, 2009 at 02:54 AM

 
 
9/11 should never be forgotten,
I was down there with wearechange,
a org 4 9/11 1st responders family, over 50 of them died last year from related illnesses. if we can invest in war, we better be investing in our heroes after the dirty work is done.. ae911truth.org (architecs n engineers) is a great sight for scientific data on 9/11. In a world where nothing is black and white (don't for get that) in politics, history; the only thing you can count on to be black n white is science -mosshady.com


Posted By: mysterioshow (Guest)  on September 13, 2009 at 11:30 AM

 
 
I love it when people spell "retarded" incorrectly.

Posted By: Owain J. Brimfield (Registered)  on September 13, 2009 at 01:34 PM

 
 
To the people that think 9/11 was an inside job--you're morons. I think Dubya was a horseshit president but even I never believed for a second he'd be part of some big conspiracy where something like 9/11 could have happened with his knowledge.

Posted By: Zingy (Guest)  on September 13, 2009 at 02:17 PM

 
 
I love it when the morons comments from are for grammar errors. Stay classy. What nothing to say about the article? Shut up you fool.

Posted By: Owain J. Brimfield(Registered) (Guest)  on September 13, 2009 at 03:41 PM

 
 
"To the people that think 9/11 was an inside job--you're morons. I think Dubya was a horseshit president but even I never believed for a second he'd be part of some big conspiracy where something like 9/11 could have happened with his knowledge."

What gets me about the conspiracy theorists is that they gloat that Dubya was some inept jackass that nearly killed himself eating a pretzel and then try to tell me he was the same evil genius behind 9/11. I don't see how someone that inept could be capable of pulling off something like that without any sort of leak breaking through at any point during his Presidency.


Posted By: Guest#0032 (Guest)  on September 13, 2009 at 03:55 PM

 
 
I havent forgotten, and no one else should, either.

It would be nice, though, if this would be the last tragic thing ever, but of course, it wont.


Posted By: Clyde (Guest)  on September 13, 2009 at 11:07 PM

 
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