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 411mania » Politics » Blog Entry
Surprise – Government Jobs Growing Much Faster Than Productive Jobs
Posted by Enrique on 12.16.2009





An underemployed American workforce received some rare encouraging news earlier this month. Employment data from November suggests the nearly two-year long recession may have hit bottom – the unemployment rate dropped to 10.0% and the number of jobs lost was 11,000, much fewer than expected. Although hope can be a dangerous thing, you could be forgiven for thinking the economy might be turning the corner. There's nowhere to go but up.

As you are no doubt aware, the last two years have been dispiriting for all patriotic job-seeking Americans. Many of you reading this have lost a job, taken a pay cut, and/or had your benefits reduced. The current recession has touched nearly everyone – in the private sector. If you're a government employee, you wouldn't know there was a recession unless you read about it on the internet. For our story this week, let's have a look at how public sector employees have gotten richer at the expense of an underemployed American workforce, and pose the vexing question – do public servants just not like America? Or do they hate it?

The story so far…

Last week, USA Today proved again why it's America's newspaper with a chilling report that exposed the obscene level of compensation government workers receive. Your tax dollars are working overtime:

The number of federal workers earning six-figure salaries has exploded during the recession, according to a USA TODAY analysis of federal salary data.

Federal employees making salaries of $100,000 or more jumped from 14% to 19% of civil servants during the recession's first 18 months — and that's before overtime pay and bonuses are counted. […]

The growth in six-figure salaries has pushed the average federal worker's pay to $71,206, compared with $40,331 in the private sector.
Other than the folks who are paid to defuse IED's, I can't imagine most government workers are providing $70,000 worth of social good annually. Especially since many of them abuse overtime. (In fairness, I have no proof most public servants abuse overtime. Call it a hunch.) To really drive the point home, USA Today provides this helpful graph:


Welfare Queens

While you and me and the other peons are trying to make the most of our $40,000, federal workers are lighting their fireplaces with $100 bills. I imagine if one were to ask President Obama about this naked injustice, he'd blame Bush somehow. And as usual he'd be right. As Reason's Matt Welch points out, Bush was the first president since World War II to preside over a federal workforce that grew at a faster rate than the private workforce. As we now know, the problem with compassionate conservatism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

One thing Obama couldn't blame Bush for is the $787 billion stimulus passed in February. That would be the stimulus that allegedly saved or created over 650,000 jobs, a figure believed by absolutely no one. Not even Joe Biden. There's no doubt some jobs were saved by the 2009 stimulus. There's also no doubt a lot of people who benefited from stimulus funds were never going to lose their jobs in the first place. If this story from Ohio sounds familiar, it's because many states have used stimulus money this way:

The Obama administration announced Friday that federal stimulus money had created or saved about 7,200 education jobs in Ohio as of Sept. 30.

Although a couple of hundred of those jobs were in Columbus City Schools, the district acknowledged yesterday that many of the "saved" jobs definitely wouldn't have been lost in the first place, and others might not have been lost at all. [...]

Federal Education Secretary Arne Duncan said in a conference call with reporters yesterday that the country has "325,000 who would literally not be in the classroom today if not for these funds." But not in Columbus, where the district's finances looked pretty solid before the stimulus. Voters passed a levy last November that should keep the district's books largely in the black until 2012.

Of the 212.5 full-time equivalent jobs the district said were funded with part of the $64 million in stimulus it expects to receive, about 65 percent were "saved," including 36 principals and assistant principals.

So was the district on the verge of laying off 36 school administrators?

"No," [the director of federal programs for Columbus schools] said, explaining that the reporting choices were "created" and "saved."

"They weren't 'created,' obviously, so our only other choice was 'saved.'"
I don't mean to appear ignorant, but based on what I've observed during the course of my relatively short life, it seems to me no one is better protected than public school workers. As the Dispatch notes, voters recently passed a levy to ensure those public school workers wouldn't lose their jobs. This happens every year all over the country. Local school districts always ask for more money, and voters are typically very generous, because the idea of cutting education spending just rubs people the wrong way. Sometimes conservative voters will defeat these kinds of referenda, but even so, the trend of education spending always goes in a positive direction.

The idea that there would have been some kind of mass layoff of public school teachers without the stimulus is unadulterated 24-karat bullshit. In many school districts, it's essentially impossible to fire teachers even for gross incompetence. In New York City, teachers who have been accused of malfeasance including sexual harassment of students get paid to sit around and do nothing. It is simply not plausible that 325,000 educators would have lost their jobs if not for the stimulus.

In fairness, it's possible some public servants would have been laid off without the stimulus (in the sense that it's possible I will be struck by lightning several times before this afternoon). My hometown Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported that our local school district claimed almost 1,000 jobs were saved by stimulus money. Like the Ohio situation, it's unclear if those jobs were ever in jeopardy to begin with, although the local bureaucrat assured the general public the situation was probably dire:

Without the boost in funding, MPS [Milwaukee Public Schools] would have faced a budget shortfall, but it's unlikely to have been resolved exclusively through staff layoffs, MPS finance director Ron Vavrik said.

"We would have had to make severe cuts both in personnel and programs," he said. "No matter what would happen, there is no way we could have avoided cutting positions. It might have been more; it might have been less."
It might have been a lot less. Maybe if public school teachers and administrators were paid at the same rate as similarly-qualified FTEs in the private sector, there wouldn't be a need for hollow threats of layoffs. What would be so bad about public servants being compensated at the same level as the rest of us? In the private sector, employment only exists as long as something of value is being created. Unless a business is providing a product or service people are willing to pay for, they can't create new jobs.

In the public sector, jobs can be created on a whim since governments obtain their revenue by force. You can choose to shop at Whole Foods or boycott Walmart. You can't choose to not pay taxes. The public sector essentially steals money from the private sector to overpay its workers to the tune of $70,000 at the federal level, and we're the assholes for preferring spending cuts to tax hikes? Man, what a world.

At the same time, I can't judge public sector employees too harshly. We're all motivated by self-interest, and if I found myself in the position to take a cushy government job, I'd be a fool not to accept it. My criticism isn't of individual public servants, whom I assume are mostly decent, well-intentioned people. My complaint is with a system that privileges the least productive sector of the economy at the expense of the most productive. Next time your local candidate for elective office portrays budget cuts as catastrophic measures that could result in social upheaval, I would argue that asking public servants to be compensated differently isn't outside the realm of polite…holy shit, they want us to subsidize their healthcare when they're retired, too?

The Milwaukee School Board has spent 20 years ignoring a "fiscal time bomb" in the form of generous and unfunded health insurance benefits for retired MPS teachers and staff that will cost the district $5 billion by 2016, according to a new report by the Wisconsin Policy Research Institute. […]

Last year, the Wisconsin Policy Research Institute identified similar unfunded liabilities in a variety of Wisconsin's large government employers. That report said that MPS would be on the hook for paying $2.2 billion for the future retirement benefits of employees - not including pensions - and that if it were setting aside the full amount needed to pay that each year, the figure would total more than $2,100 per student.
On second thought, I think I can judge public sector employees too harshly.


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If you want to bitch about public servants, go bitch about the thousands or so at the middle level, but not school teachers. Are some of them incompetent and unqualified? Of course. However, half of the reason why I decided to stay at the university level rather than go into public education is because the money just isn't there for a decent living. (The other half is the horrendous state of the schools these days--thanks to No Child Left Behind). The problem isn't that we have too many teachers--it's that we don't have enough, and certainly not enough good ones because we have a society with some really screwed up values.

Posted By: Michael L (Guest)  on December 16, 2009 at 09:19 PM

 
 
Have you ever actually tried to get a government job, especially a federal government job? You pretty much need perfect security checks, lots of experience, and lots of consistent time and effort.

If you're making 6 figures at a federal government job you're likely risking your life overseas in a war zone, or have a higher education degree and experience, including but not limited to law school and practice as an attorney. Of course, doctors are included too in this, and doctors generally are paid well.

Everyone knows government employees generally take less pay for less hours. But everyone still wants that type of job, it's just very hard to get.

If you really want to complain about wasted tax dollars, your real problem should be with the police force, as that is funded by taxpayer money but they frequently ignore civil rights and bully the citizenry. There are some really bad cops out there and with the cell phone age lots of it is being recorded. What do you people think happens with that? Lawsuits against the municipality that pay out, because officers ignore the Constitution.


Posted By: Guest#8135 (Guest)  on December 16, 2009 at 09:37 PM

 
 
"You can't choose to not pay taxes. The public sector essentially steals money from the private sector to overpay its workers to the tune of $70,000 at the federal level, and we're the assholes for preferring spending cuts to tax hikes? Man, what a world."

Enrique, that is the best line ever on the history of 411 politics.


Posted By: Guest#1915 (Guest)  on December 16, 2009 at 10:04 PM

 
 
One more reason why America will break at the foundations and it will all come tumbling down.

Posted By: AG Awesome (Registered)  on December 17, 2009 at 06:52 AM

 
 
"If you're making 6 figures at a federal government job you're likely risking your life overseas in a war zone, or have a higher education degree and experience, including but not limited to law school and practice as an attorney. Of course, doctors are included too in this, and doctors generally are paid well."

"Everyone knows government employees generally take less pay for less hours. But everyone still wants that type of job, it's just very hard to get."

Posted By: Guest#8135

Based on my own experience as a municipal employee, I can attest to all of this. The government doesn't hire cashiers and stock boys, so obviously there's going to be a disparity when comparing averages. A comparison between public and private workers in the same profession would be much more telling. On average the private sector makes more, but public workers' benefits and relative job security more than make up for it. I wouldn't take a private sector job even for double my current salary.

For what it's worth, Chicago has imposed large scale layoffs and massive furlough on its employees to help balance its budget in lieu of local tax increases. Well, that and the leasing of public assets for quick infusions of cash at the cost of seriously diminishing future revenues. Since it's illegal for local governments to operate in the red, they just ignore their future obligations instead. But that will be some other politician's problem. It is this behavior, not compensation levels, that has placed a doomsday scenario on the horizon. In my experience, it's not what we are paid but the number of us that are hired to do the work that is excessive. The current crisis is forcing that issue to be addressed, and I only hope we don't slide back to normal when it's over. My office has gone from 33 employees down to 24, yet somehow the same work still gets done in the same amount of time. I wonder if that's the case in the private sector?


Posted By: Jason Douglas (Registered)  on December 17, 2009 at 10:08 AM

 
 
I sent Enrique this. For disclosure, I am a federal economist. I like my job, and I could make tens of thousands more in the private sector but the extra money isn't worth the stress induced nor the extra time away from my family.

You're citing figures on 411mania without understanding what they are. It is typically true that most government positions are paid roughly 15-20% less than their private sector counterparts. The study you cited compare average salaries in the public and private sector. The problem with that is the composition of careers and jobs are slanted to more skilled (ie: college degree needed) labor in the government workforce. It has a different distribution. The other problem is that the government work force is heavily skewed towards older working adults. Demographically, this means that they're much more likely to be in the peak of their earning potential (a 50 year old vs. a 30 year old, for instance)

Before you go on a rant with statistics, it would pay to actually understand the statistics you cite.


Posted By: jerichoHill (Guest)  on December 17, 2009 at 11:25 AM

 
 
I contend a government job is not a real job...more of a handout with no bottom line. Also I wonder just how many of these jobs could be done cheaper and maybe better in the private sector, but hay I first heard about this watching Glenn Beck so that's just crazy talk right?

Posted By: guest (Guest)  on December 17, 2009 at 11:31 AM

 
 
We do not have a teacher shortage nationwide. In fact, where I live it is damn near impossible to be a teacher. I have been a sub for 3 years, and since then there have been 5 position openings for teachers within a 30 mile radius. Those were taken up be people with more tenure.

Police as well, and almost any government position. It is very hard to get a government job, and harder yet to get treated fairly once you have one. How many government health programs have been cut lately? Thousands. The increase in salary is typically used to offset losses in health, retirement and other benefits. What you are complaining about in many cases is a small raise in exchange for a huge benefit package cut.

By the way, 40k is a pretty good earning for a guy to just post some random and unsubstantiated facts. More than many of the government employees you are bashing.

And Teaching is a very difficult job, done for the most part by very dedicated individuals.


Posted By: Teachers..Really? (Guest)  on December 17, 2009 at 12:52 PM

 
 
As someone grinding through lawschool, I can only HOPE to land a government job with the SSA or similar agency.

The payrate for such a position, after seven years of college? About $45,000. About what a freakin dental hygenist with nine months of education can make.


Posted By: Guest#2470 (Guest)  on December 17, 2009 at 02:04 PM

 
 
"By the way, 40k is a pretty good earning for a guy to just post some random and unsubstantiated facts. More than many of the government employees you are bashing."

Enrique is making $40K to write this column?! Ashish, I think we need to talk. LOL

"The other problem is that the government work force is heavily skewed towards older working adults. Demographically, this means that they're much more likely to be in the peak of their earning potential (a 50 year old vs. a 30 year old, for instance)"

Posted By: jerichoHill

I can substantiate this as well. At 33, I'm the 3rd youngest in my office, and most are at least a decade older than me. It's absolutely strange given that hiring requirements are posted publicly, and theoretically younger applicants are qualified. I don't know whether the young are more willing to work longer hours for more cash in the private sector in their early years, or if age discrimination is involved. I'm lucky I see things more like a 50 year old than someone my age, or it would be very socially awkward.


Posted By: Jason Douglas (Registered)  on December 17, 2009 at 02:27 PM

 
 
teachers are compensated plenty depending on district. I am a teacher in enrique's area, Wisconsin. to start is typically upper 30's going to around 80's at retirement age which is being pushed by districts in the 50's. then the retirement kicks in at 75 percent pay and full med dental...and you can continue to work for another district or sub in your own if you want. find that privately.....you can't. So to all the teachers who bitch about this all I can say is leave and find better. they generally shut up after that.

Posted By: no option (Guest)  on December 17, 2009 at 03:36 PM

 
 
Yeah, because the public sector is sicy a nice place to work since you can be fired for nothing, barely any unions left and most of the jobs pay shit. We need more jobs that are fairly secure and pay well. I laugh when people say we should cut waste in government. You know that means jobs right? Then, they bitch about how bad the economy, because no one wants to buy their overprice shit. IF we ever recover from this GOP economic disaster its going to be due to people having steady jobs that pay well. It sounds like Enrique wants Communism to me or worst Socialism in the way people get jobs.

Posted By: AFan (Guest)  on December 17, 2009 at 03:55 PM

 
 
The company I work for has a contract with the KY state government. The funds we get have gone down the drain. We used to have 100 to 110 employees and now we have about 60. The state's GOP has been squeezing the gov't for about 30 years. If you keep taking money away, it's no wonder that the atate can't run properly. Our last "good" year was about 2001. Small raises, if any. Why do we stay? It's a job. We can't be accused of abusing the system. I shudder to think what condition the company would be in if not for the Metro United Way.

Posted By: The Great Capt. Smooth (Guest)  on December 17, 2009 at 05:27 PM

 
 
"Yeah, because the public sector is sicy a nice place to work since you can be fired for nothing, barely any unions left and most of the jobs pay shit. We need more jobs that are fairly secure and pay well."

First of all, there is no such thing as a secure job. Example: A few years back France had a law where you could not be fired for any reason and was called a proud moment for social justice. Some time later they had unemployment rate near the 20's. Want to know why? Because since you couldn't be fired most people didn't do their job right. Since the employee didn't know who he was hiring he was reluctant to do so. When this law was dismissed the French cried foul but their unemployment rate (even during the recession) is better than it was then.

"I laugh when people say we should cut waste in government. You know that means jobs right?"

You know those jobs mean tax payer money, right? Here's some information: many studies show that private sector jobs cost a lot less than public sector. When you take money from the private sector they have less to hire or keep people. Also, learn the difference between creating wealth and money as it serve you some good.


Posted By: BKS (Guest)  on December 17, 2009 at 07:03 PM

 
 
"The number of federal workers earning six-figure salaries has exploded during the recession, according to a USA TODAY analysis of federal salary data."

And what is the reason for that? Giant conspiracy? The jobs being created are government jobs pertaining to national security or infrastructure?

"Federal employees making salaries of $100,000 or more jumped from 14% to 19% of civil servants during the recession's first 18 months — and that's before overtime pay and bonuses are counted. […]"

So does that mean the number of people making six figures went up, or that the overall number of employees went down? I can only speak to my experience living in Michigan, where state employees are forced to take furlough days.

"The growth in six-figure salaries has pushed the average federal worker's pay to $71,206, compared with $40,331 in the private sector."

All this demonstrates is that federal jobs have a narrower pay range, and that too many people make too little working in retail, service, and manufacturing.

And how exactly did that "welfare queen" bit tie into all of this?


Posted By: Guest#6840 (Guest)  on December 17, 2009 at 07:29 PM

 
 
The bureacracy is expanding in order to meet the needs of the expanding bureacracy.

I pitched an idea at my political science professor that involved parents of children that failed public school classes being held financially responsible for the fees incurred in those classes.

Sadly, being responsible for your child's behavior and study ethics isn't very high on American parents' to-do lists.


Posted By: mike34ism (Guest)  on December 18, 2009 at 02:54 PM

 
 
Yep.. Federal jobs aren't productive jobs.. public servants hate America.. and no one makes any money in the private sector.

Well done Enrique! Platitudes to you!


Posted By: Guest#6347 (Guest)  on December 18, 2009 at 03:10 PM

 
 
Big Government = more taxes = less money for you.

Posted By: Truff (Guest)  on December 18, 2009 at 03:46 PM

 
 
As a proud government employee who makes around 40% less than the average private sector worker in my field (IT), the author and his ignorance can go take a flying leap off a cliff.

Posted By: Texas Kelly (Guest)  on December 18, 2009 at 11:05 PM

 
 
Anyone that likes high taxes is a complete moron.

Posted By: Truff (Guest)  on December 19, 2009 at 02:29 AM

 
 
Wah wah, I'm a public employee, and I allegedly make less money than others. Sure, I pay little or NOTHING for my health care and get it even after I no longer work, I get a pension and can retire at 55 or in some cases younger, my union will make sure I'll never get fired no matter how big a fuck up I am, but... but... hey, being a public employee sound like a wonderful scam, actually.

Fuck you people, seriously.


Posted By: Jimbo (Guest)  on December 19, 2009 at 08:53 AM

 
 
Anyone that likes high taxes is a complete moron.

Posted By: Truff (Guest) on December 19, 2009 at 02:29 AM

Amen brother! I hate it when inner-city school children get fed breakfast, I hate libraries and museums, and I ESPECIALLY HATE IT when roads get fixed!


Posted By: Guest#1799 (Guest)  on December 19, 2009 at 04:28 PM

 
 
I hope these dummies didn't include temporary staff that have hired to work for the Census Bureau.

Posted By: Well (Guest)  on December 19, 2009 at 07:46 PM

 
 
Anyone that likes high taxes is a complete moron.

Posted By: Truff (Guest) on December 19, 2009 at 02:29 AM

Amen brother! I hate it when inner-city school children get fed breakfast, I hate libraries and museums, and I ESPECIALLY HATE IT when roads get fixed!

Posted By: Guest#1799 (Guest) on December 19, 2009 at 04:28 PM

Those are all well and good, but there is an absurd amount of waste. Someone mentioned the private sector being more efficient...weeeeeell the government does hire the private sector for a lot of jobs, and they generally pay about 3x the amount for these hired contracts than for government employees for the same job. It was a big deal in NY when the government employees essentially went to newspapers and revealed it all.


Posted By: Guest#9904 (Guest)  on December 19, 2009 at 08:06 PM

 
 
Freeloaders love high taxes.

Posted By: Truff (Guest)  on December 20, 2009 at 01:38 PM

 
 
I worked for a company that had government contracts and you know why they seem so expensive to the government? Because they are basically milk runs for private enterprise because there is no fiscal responsibility in the government.

We bid 3x what we normally would quote because we know that if we are lower than the other 10 people bidding 3x as much we get the job and alot of extra money to boot.

If the government was actually fiscally responsible those sort of things wouldn't happen.


Posted By: DeimosMasque (Guest)  on December 20, 2009 at 03:56 PM

 
 
Hm, let's criticize government employees for getting too much overtime for doing their job as a waste of tax money while communities will gladly foot the bill for new billion dollar sports complexes like that abortion in Dallas.

Posted By: Guest#6008 (Guest)  on December 20, 2009 at 04:02 PM

 
 
I am a job seeker, but not patriotic, which is why the last year has been sparkling fantastic for me! Viva Presidente' Hussein!!

Posted By: Guest#9051 (Guest)  on December 20, 2009 at 04:49 PM

 
 
Note to Jimbo:

Federal Employees, most of them, do not get pension. That benefit changed a very long time ago when the government moved to defined contribution rather than defined benefit plans.


Posted By: Jerichohill (Guest)  on December 20, 2009 at 09:48 PM

 
 
We bid 3x what we normally would quote because we know that if we are lower than the other 10 people bidding 3x as much we get the job and alot of extra money to boot.

If the government was actually fiscally responsible those sort of things wouldn't happen.

Posted By: DeimosMasque (Guest) on December 20, 2009 at 03:56 PM

So.. what you're saying is that government is providing private enterprise with too much money, thus supporting too many jobs?


Posted By: Guest#3173 (Guest)  on December 21, 2009 at 01:42 AM

 
 
"We bid 3x what we normally would quote because we know that if we are lower than the other 10 people bidding 3x as much we get the job and alot of extra money to boot.

If the government was actually fiscally responsible those sort of things wouldn't happen.

Posted By: DeimosMasque (Guest) on December 20, 2009 at 03:56 PM"

Your argument is that the government should be more fiscally responsible because your company is dishonest and exploits loopholes in a system to cheat taxpayers out of more money. That's sound some sound logic right there.


Posted By: Guest#2047 (Guest)  on December 21, 2009 at 11:35 AM

 
 
His popularity level is high, but mine is higher.

Posted By: RVD (Guest)  on December 23, 2009 at 04:13 PM

 
 
If you work for the government your paid with taxes. Of course the government wants to grow. More government more taxes.

Posted By: Truff (Guest)  on December 31, 2009 at 02:32 PM

 
STAY CURRENT




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