Outrage – Women’s Constitutional Right to Go Topless Still Largely Unrecognized
Posted by Enrique on 09.01.2010
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Last week, some guy with a TV show named Glenn Beck hosted a big rally in Washington DC. It was about "Restoring America" or something, and most of the people in attendance happened to be white Christians. This Glenn Beck character really gets under some people's skin, which makes me want to like him. I've listened to his radio show a few times over the years, and I think it's amusing. Of course, I don't really take him seriously, which makes it easier to enjoy Beck's shtick. It also keeps me from feeling threatened by him. But it's amazing what people take seriously these days.
For example – topless women. Well, obviously we all take topless women very seriously in certain circumstances, but have you ever thought about what's wrong with women exposing their breasts in public? August 22nd was National Go Topless Day, on which we lamented that a woman's right to air her girls out on a hot summer day remains severely restricted throughout the U.S. But it was also a time for celebration. For our story this week, let's have a look at tits. (Not literally.)
The story so far…
Technically, this is safe for work. Explain that to your boss who JUST WALKED UP BEHIND YOU!
As you may be aware, government regulation of topless women in public is a touchy subject. (*rimshot*) But seriously, folks – it's been a bloody hot summer, so it's understandable that a lady could get miffed about the double standard. Since men tend to be less, shall we say, competitive about our physical appearance than the fair sex, one could argue some men who go topless are behaving indecently. Custom requires I insert a gratuitous man-boob picture here to illustrate the injustice. I'm sure you understand.
Too soon?
On the merits of comfort alone, you have to admit topless rights' activists have an argument. Anyway, who really wants to get in the way of girls standing up for their right to go wild? And maybe this whole thing is more than just an excuse to talk about boobs – perhaps it's a serious civil rights issue. Conveniently, it's also a highly amusing civil rights issue:
As part of National Topless Day, protesters [in Venice Beach] will march topless to make a statement against laws that allow men to parade around shirtless, but require women to cover up.
Under this chest-case scenario, women will go topless and men will march clad in bikini tops. Latex nipple covers (they look like actual nipples) will be handed out to women at the beach.
Ooh la la, how cheeky! Although I admire topless women as much as the next man, it's not as if Americans are total puritans when it comes to displaying female breasts in plain view. In fact, the website of some group called the National Conference of State Legislatures (which I never heard of until Google led me to them just now) says the vast majority of states permit public breastfeeding. Apparently this NCSL is a lobbying organization for state governments, so I think we can trust them.
For another thing, you may be surprised to know that some of Obamacare's thousands of pages were devoted to expanding the rights of nursing mothers in the workplace. In a victory for social justice, employers can no longer deny female employees a private place to use a breast pump. So being an American boob ain't all bad.
But it's not really fair to compare breastfeeding and going topless for it's own sake. While I'm truly sympathetic to the interests of topless women, I have to acknowledge that a move toward unrestricted toplessness could have unintended consequences. (Fun fact: Microsoft Word doesn't think "toplessness" is a proper word.) Just last week in Canada, a rally in support of topless women was met with some awkwardly enthusiastic support:
About 50 observers — mostly male — sat in brilliant sunshine in St. George's Square Saturday afternoon and waited for the event to begin.
Organizers Andrea Crinklaw and Lindsay Webb, both University of Guelph students, were among the first to peel off their tops in what started out as a shy event. Only a handful of women took their shirts off in the first hour.
The people with cameras and dark glasses may have had something to do with it.
"If you are here just to see boobs and be creepy, we encourage you to move on," Webb told the crowd.
There's always a few bad apples who spoil it for everyone, no? Speaking as a grown-up, I think it's just a bit silly and very rude to gawk at boobs in a "real world" scenario. Speaking as someone who was once a teenage boy, I have to admit women's breasts can be substantially disruptive to social order.
Occasionally, some academic study will come out that reinforces something we already knew. In a book that was published earlier this year called The Male Brain, a psychiatrist named Dr. Louann Brizendine argues that the inability to ignore girls' tits is a man's default setting:
"It's a reflex that's built into the brain circuits," [Brizendine] said in an interview. "At its core biological basis, it's unfair to criticize men for that initial unconscious circuitry."
In light of this, male ogling must henceforth be considered genetic destiny rather than anti-social creepiness. […]
When we finally do look away, the experience fades quickly for men, Brizendine writes.
Man trances are fleeting moments of unconscious aesthetic appreciation that disappear from the mind as quickly as they emerge.
I'm sure we can all agree this is conclusive evidence that women need to lighten up about men's innate wandering eye. Ladies, please – focus on the "experience fades quickly" aspect; don't take it as an insult.
In fairness, there's no excuse for men behaving like douchebags in the presence of visible breasts. I imagine if laws prohibiting female toplessness were repealed, boobs would become ordinary, and eventually dull. A lot of the naughtiness surrounding plain, non-sexual breast-baring comes from it being restricted. If boobs were freed, within a few years they would be so totally normal no one would make a fuss about them.
Well, we'd still make a fuss about them, but privately.
Posted By: David Kaplan (Guest) on September 01, 2010 at 09:33 PM
I always did wonder why it's okay for men to go topless but not women. Maybe it's only breasts that are or once capable of milk are indecent. Which brings a whole new dimension to guys who abuse steroids and can get real working milk udders. I'm not kidding.
Posted By: Bryan Jones (Guest) on September 01, 2010 at 09:46 PM
Enrique,
I have been trying to decide, as someone who completely disagrees with everything he stands for, if I "fear" Glenn Beck. I don't fear him. I do worry that he will gain traction among the less educated and less intelligent. I worry that as a puppet of the Koch brothers (whether he knows he is or not) he'll be the voice for a bunch of people who don't know better. But, really, should I worry about this sizable minority?
In other words, if a lot of people take him seriously, aren't I making a mistake by laughing him off? It's like the old saying that if everybody believes a lie, that makes it true (it doesn't ACTUALLY make it true, but in practice it's true). If everybody takes the joke seriously, doesn't it become serious?
Posted By: JD (Guest) on September 01, 2010 at 11:23 PM
This is off topic, but I would LOVE for somebody on this site to even mention the upcoming draconian invasion of personal privacy known as the ACTA treaty.
Posted By: Guest#3399 (Guest) on September 02, 2010 at 12:44 AM
" I do worry that he will gain traction among the less educated and less intelligent.
Posted By: JD (Guest) on September 01, 2010 at 11:23 PM"
Too late!
Posted By: Q:? (Guest) on September 02, 2010 at 06:57 AM
More proof that as advanced and progressive as America seems to be, it still has its head up its *ss and its mind and attitude in the Dark Ages when it comes to this kind of thing. We've got to be one of the only countries on the planet that criminalizes sex and nudity to a point of almost being shameful.
Need proof? Tune in to Dancing With The Stars and then see how many times the cameras get close to the ladies and their costumes compared to the guys. Why is it we only get to see what amounts to basically a head shot of the girls, but the cameras show more of a head and body shot of the guys?
Posted By: guest (Guest) on September 02, 2010 at 08:54 AM
Living in Ontario, Canada, its 100% legal for woman to go topless...has been for years! :)
Posted By: Huh? (Guest) on September 02, 2010 at 09:04 AM
This is off topic, but I would LOVE for somebody on this site to even mention the upcoming draconian invasion of personal privacy known as the ACTA treaty.
Posted By: Guest#3399 (Guest) on September 02, 2010 at 12:44 AM
Come on you didn't see this coming? If we didn't steal EVERYTHING via the internet, then this would never have happened.
Not saying this doesn't suck, but yeah, at some point you knew this was going to at least get proposed. Honestly if I distributed movies, software, games, music, ect., I think I might be all for it.
Posted By: duh (Guest) on September 02, 2010 at 09:09 AM
I am for Torcher but am also anti-abortion. Don't use logic with me because I have a higher power on my side!
I am for gay rights (just not in my back yard), and for girls being able to be naked (just not in my back yard). Oh and if the CHILDREN see it I am going to outraged because it will corrupt their young minds and cause them to go the way of the devil.
I am also pro-gun ESPECIALLY when used against illegal immigrants crossing the border. Any war is good as long as we are kicking the shit out of another country that doesn't agree with us (hell screw it, even if they do let's go get em').
And I'm all for giving big business whatever they dam well want because they are the future of this country and hold the economy in their hands. I believe in trickle down economics and think Businesses always do the right thing morally.
And come November we will control all 100 senate seats and all 435 seats in Congress along with the White House at which time we can kick Obama out of the country for being an Illegal Immigrant.
Posted By: Republican Manifesto (Guest) on September 02, 2010 at 09:48 AM
" I do worry that he will gain traction among the less educated and less intelligent.
Posted By: JD (Guest) on September 01, 2010 at 11:23 PM"
You mean like people that voted for Obama in 2008?
Posted By: gwpbrian (Guest) on September 02, 2010 at 12:03 PM
They can go topless, but then we have the right to stare at their boobs. We also have the right not to stare at their boobs and just ignore them.
The average woman will complain about BOTH. They'll complain about both even if they're covered.
Posted By: Guest#1596 (Guest) on September 02, 2010 at 01:33 PM
Glenn Beck makes some VERY lucid points JD. I realize it is hard to think there could be valid counterpoints to your own, personal, point of view, but I assure you Beck often presents these.
That said, as with ALL people, you have to follow Sturgeon's Law and drop 90% of what he says.
Still, I'd rather listen to 10 minutes of Glenn Beck than 10 minutes of Rachel Maddow (I despise that chick)
Posted By: M:-X (Guest) on September 02, 2010 at 02:23 PM
They can go topless, but then we have the right to stare at their boobs. We also have the right not to stare at their boobs and just ignore them.
The average woman will complain about BOTH. They'll complain about both even if they're covered.
Posted By: Guest#1596 (Guest) on September 02, 2010 at 01:33 PM
Dude women complain about everything, it's their nature lol.
Posted By: Guest#4839 (Guest) on September 02, 2010 at 03:12 PM
"Still, I'd rather listen to 10 minutes of Glenn Beck than 10 minutes of Rachel Maddow (I despise that chick)
Posted By: M:-X (Guest) on September 02, 2010 at 02:23 PM"
Too bad. She's actually educated and fact checks what she puts on air unlike that simpering bullshit artist you're claiming has lucid points.
Posted By: Q:? (Guest) on September 02, 2010 at 08:28 PM
" I do worry that he will gain traction among the less educated and less intelligent.
Posted By: JD (Guest) on September 01, 2010 at 11:23 PM"
You mean like people that voted for Obama in 2008?
The Tea Party didn't vote for Obama. He's a scary terrorist you know. If you want proof....Well I'm sure Glenn Beck has a chalkboard you can look at for a while.
Posted By: Blanky (Guest) on September 03, 2010 at 12:19 AM
The best way to take Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh is to take them much as you would Pro Wrestling. It's over the top, say whatever will provoke your audience and say it loud.
Posted By: Pete (Guest) on September 03, 2010 at 01:22 AM
"More proof that as advanced and progressive as America seems to be, it still has its head up its *ss and its mind and attitude in the Dark Ages when it comes to this kind of thing. We've got to be one of the only countries on the planet that criminalizes sex and nudity to a point of almost being shameful"
We're still better than some countries where women must be fully covered from head to toe in public.
Posted By: kevin (Guest) on September 03, 2010 at 01:47 AM
Before the white man came over, toplessness was not thought of as anything to be ashamed of. Europeans (including the Spanish) brought over their thinking that any nudity was sinful.
Also if the Great Creator had wanted us to be clothed, we would have been born with clothing. I agree that certain aspects of life mandate that we wear some kind of protective appeal such as when it is cold or if we are working in some dangerous area that we need to protect our bodies but in normal circumstances, we should be allowed to were what we want or not.
Like a kid in a candy store, after a while, seeing bared breast would be common and not cause a stir like they are now. The ones that are protesting this toplessness I believe are the clothing markets (designers up to the retailers) and the porn market which would not be able to sell their movies as they do now because it would not have the same effect as it does now as a shock effect.
Posted By: Lame Bull (Guest) on September 28, 2010 at 10:38 PM