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A Dirty Liberal's Look at the Last Week
Posted by Kris Stewart on 03.30.2011



So many things have occurred since we last spoke, I've been unable to settle on a single topic to discuss. So the following column is a compilation of thoughts on events of the last week. I'm not sure if it will represent a format I'll continue in the future, but I hope you guys enjoy. I'm sure there's plenty on offer for y'all to pick out and disagree with in the comments section, and I look forward to indulging in the kind of mature, if heated, discussions I've become accustomed to with previous contributions.

As you yourself may have become accustomed to with previous contributions, it's a long one (that's how I roll, ladies). But don't feel like you need to swallow it whole. I'm a Michelle Obama/Hugo Chavez kinda guy, so I advocate consuming the following in healthy bites throughout the week while regularly defecating your opinions below the line.

Today we discuss Obama's oil w... military operations, how to lose sense and alienate Muslims, and one man's advice to Wisconsin's Scott Walker to fake an assassination attempt in an attempt to discredit unions. Plus, we celebrate ObamaCare's first birthday!

***


Monday night President Obama gave his first speech to the nation regarding the current military operations in Libya. The speech came just over a week since US and European allies forged the passing of UN resolution 1973 approving the enforcement of no-fly zone measures against Moammar Gaddafi's army, and as plans were being finalized to hand over control to NATO after several days of Western bombardment which had helped propel rebel militants back towards the capital, Tripoli.

Refusing to use the word 'war', Obama delivered a pretty strong argument for why the intervention was necessary, which, even if you - like me - didn't regard it to be the immediate and potential threat he suggested, did a pretty good job of dispelling some of the more politicized criticisms from the right-wing in recent weeks.

He didn't go in immediately, as the likes of Gingrich and McCain suggested, because to do so without the consent of the Arab League - who only reached an agreement a few days before the Security Council resolution - would simply play into the hands of those who would seek to profit by pointing to US involvement in a third Muslim nation in a decade. He didn't seek Congressional consent because the action taken didn't require such a move (John Boehner pretending no efforts had been made to inform him when in fact he'd been briefed prior to the UN resolution was a particularly repugnant example of self-serving politicking). And come Wednesday, the transition of control to NATO officials will ensure the costs incurred will be relatively minor. Certainly relative to those Bush tax cut extensions the fiscal hawks in the Republican party fought so hard for...

But this intervention was about one thing. As Obama asserted on Monday: "When our interests and values are at stake, we have a responsibility to act." American interests were at stake. They were running at $4 a gallon.

This wasn't about a murderous dictator; Yemen's President Saleh, like Egypt's Mubarak and Tunisia's Ben Ali before him, prove that. This wasn't about a potential civil war; Syria and Bahrain prove that. This wasn't about the unsustainable flood of citizens into neighbouring countries escaping from murderous gangs of soldiers sent out to kill by a leader who refuses to cede to international demands; the Ivory Coast prove that (wait, do black Africans count?)

This was about something much cruder: oil.

Not for the French - Nicolas Sarkozy, as I reported in my last column, is polling disastrously as next year's elections loom, with recent surveys showing the conservative president to be less popular than both his potential Socialist and far-right rivals. For him, it was about winning over the French public in a seemingly easy military campaign, receiving the traditional boost in popularity wars tend to produce.

Nor for Turkey or the handful of other nations representing the Muslim contingent of the multilateral campaign, who care more about regional power, security and trade, along with Turkey's desire for approval into the European Union.

But for the two nations who were at the forefront of the invasion of Iraq, and who lead (perhaps not in Sarkozy's self-interested eyes) this latest campaign, it was all about the black stuff.

But unlike Iraq, where oil contracts were sought and duly administered to Western companies, this wasn't about raping a foreign land's resources for the benefit of financiers. (Western oil interests in the region were already being served by Gaddafi who represented one of our closest subservient allies.) This was about securing a foreign land's resources for the benefit of a fragile economic recovery - a recovery at enormous threat should an affronted Moammar Gaddafi succeed in crushing an uprising supported publicly by all Western leaders; who may not prove as agreeable to the demands of a West which had turned its back on him.

***


Ah, the sweet irony of numbers... Just a couple days after passing UN resolution 1973, Barack Obama was in Chile as part of his tour of Latin America, the same country the US had assisted in the overthrow of the democratically-elected socialist president, Salvador Allende, on September 11, 1973, helping usher in the murderous Pinochet dictatorship which ruled for 17 years, along with the Friedmanite doctrine which ravaged the Chilean economy and sent it into a spiral of high unemployment and widening income inequality that it only managed to escape when the West's corporate puppet stepped down and made way for democracy.

Obama was confronted by journalists over the issue, and kudos to the president, he responded admirably, admitting the US had shared a difficult history with Latin America, but adding: "It is important to learn from history but without getting stuck in it, because there are many challenges for the future."

While some of a certain political persuasion will recoil at such concessions to lowly sub-Mexicans - and especially while showing deference to historical fact free of right-wing revisionism - the move to accept at least some responsibility for the economic and political woes enforced on Latin America by covert US actions throughout the last century is commendable. (Even if it persists in Venezuela and Cuba.)

***


Attention-starved pastor, Terry Jones, finally went ahead with the burning of the Koran that caused so much manufactured controversy around September 11 last year. With the world's gaze set towards more uplifting scenes in the Muslim world, few were present on March 20 as the bigot desperately attempted to grasp those last remaining minutes of fame.

And yet certain readers of this column still believe the Jones approach is far more preferable to Obama's in dealing with Islamic fundamentalism...


God created Terry Jones in the image of His asshole.

***


Far more shocking images were released last week depicting US soldiers posing with the dead bodies of innocent Afghans they had callously murdered.

As part of a 'kill team', Army Specialist Jeremy Morlock and four fellow soldiers from his Stryker brigade set up fake combat situations to enable them to murder civilians. Morlock, the first of the group to be court-martialled, was sentenced to 24 years in prison last Thursday after pleading guilty to the murder of three Afghan civilians.

In the latest issue of Rolling Stone, their perverse campaign is described in chilling detail:

"The poppy plants were still low to the ground at that time of year. The two soldiers, Cpl. Jeremy Morlock and Pfc. Andrew Holmes, saw a young farmer who was working by himself among the spiky shoots. Off in the distance, a few other soldiers stood sentry. But the farmer was the only Afghan in sight. With no one around to witness, the timing was right. And just like that, they picked him for execution.

He was a smooth-faced kid, about 15 years old. Not much younger than they were: Morlock was 21, Holmes was 19. His name, they would later learn, was Gul Mudin, a common name in Afghanistan. He was wearing a little cap and a Western-style green jacket. He held nothing in his hand that could be interpreted as a weapon, not even a shovel. The expression on his face was welcoming. "He was not a threat," Morlock later confessed.

Morlock and Holmes called to him in Pashto as he walked toward them, ordering him to stop. The boy did as he was told. He stood still.

The soldiers knelt down behind a mud-brick wall. Then Morlock tossed a grenade toward Mudin, using the wall as cover. As the grenade exploded, he and Holmes opened fire, shooting the boy repeatedly at close range with an M4 carbine and a machine gun."


Unfortunately, the team were not lone renegades, according to the article. Indeed, the team were meant to have operated in public, with many fellow soldiers fully aware of their actions.

The images taken by the soldiers, released by the German magazine Der Spiegel last week, show the men posing to camera celebrating with the corpses of innocent Afghans in their hands like proud hunters do with dead game. One picture features the decapitated head of an Afghan civilian. Another the mutilated limbs of another. Inviting comparisons to the shocking images of Abu Ghraib which caused worldwide controversy in 2004, many are hoping these latest images (Der Spiegel say they have obtained thousands) don't provoke the same retaliatory actions that saw Abu Musab al-Zarqawi behead US contractor Nick Berg shortly after the publication of the Abu Ghraib torture images.

I'm sure the rest of you will join me in hoping (or praying, if that's your deal) that Afghans prove intellectually mature enough to discern between the actions of a few and the American military and people as a whole.

***


On Tuesday, the New York Times reported that an 11-year-old girl from Cleveland, Texas was repeatedly gang-raped over the duration of four months by a close-knit group of neighbours.

According to the article, nineteen men aged 14 to 29 have been charged in connection with the rape of the girl which the paper reports occurred on at least six occasions between September and December of last year.

The article details a particular distressing occasion in November where the girl was forced to strip in front of a several men and was then raped multiple times until the men were forced to stop when the aunt of one of the men returned home. Sneaking the girl out of a window, the men continued their attacks in a trailer outside.

The article fails to mention any Islamic leanings behind the rapings, offering a frightening thought that rape may not be exclusive to bearded Muslims...

***


Last week, Talking Points Memo reported that a prosecutor in Indiana had been forced to resign after the publication of emails he sent to Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker in which he made suggestions that the Republican fake an assassination attempt to be blamed on union members who were protesting his ideological crusade against their rights.

Expressing praise for his brave fight against union members who had offered concession after concession up to the point of having their rights to collective bargaining ripped away from them under the guise of fiscal responsibility, Carlos Lam, a deputy prosecutor in Johnson County, Indiana, encouraged Gov. Walker to initiate a "false flag operation" which would damage the protesters' cause.

"If you could employ an associate who pretends to be sympathetic to the unions' cause to physically attack you (or even use a firearm against you), you could discredit the unions," wrote Lam.

Referring to the growing support for the protests, Lam continued: "Employing a false flag operation would assist in undercutting any support the media may be creating in favour of the unions."

A spokesperson for Gov. Walker insisted nobody at his office had seen the email, and further condemned the remarks it contained, but as TPM points out, Walker had previously made public his feelings regarding possible 'plants' used to harm the unions. When Buffalo Beast blogger Ian Walker made a prank call to Walker in February pretending to be oil magnate David Koch, he enquired whether Walker had considered inserting plants into the crowds. Walker replied that, "we thought about that," but chose against it due to worries of a backlash from the public who'd perhaps urge him to compromise (and therefore fail in his ideological crusade).

In the week that followed Lam's resignation, stories have emerged of Libyan forces planting corpses in areas struck by Western bombing, along with reports that the Syrian government has been attempting to instigate sectarian division between Sunni and Shia demonstrators, as gunmen loyal to President Asaad shot over 50 peaceful protestors dead (attributing the killings to 'armed gangs' intent on 'undermining the Syrian people'). Moammar Gaddafi has repeatedly pointed to al-Queda involvement behind the uprisings in his country, and is believed to have paid mercenaries from neighbouring countries to infiltrate protests and create havoc and suspicion among demonstrators - a tactic previously adopted by deposed Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak.

Far more sinister, in recent months rumours have abounded in Egypt that the bombing of a church on New Years' Day, which took 21 lives and was blamed on an obscure al-Queda offshoot, was in fact the work of people inside Mubarak's security apparatus who had hoped the perceived threat of Islamic terrorism would quell the simmering calls for protests in the aftermath of the democratic uprising in Tunisia. Emails obtained following the regime's downfall reportedly show correspondence among security officials referring to the upcoming attacks. Suspicions had already been raised immediately after the bombings when witnesses reported that guards sent to oversee the religious event had evacuated the vicinity right before the bombings occurred.

The tactics adopted by those wishing to trample upon their citizens' rights echo those used in South Africa in the early 90s after the Afrikaner government was forced to make a number of concessions that threatened the apartheid state they'd upheld for decades in the face of global protest (the kind the heavily-lobbied US ensures Israel never encounters). Following the release in 1990 of Nelson Mandela after 27 years of imprisonment, amid growing international pressure to acknowledge the rights of black South Africans, the government funded a covert 'third force' of right-wing paramilitary groups to foment violence between rival black political parties in an attempt to damage the reputation of their opponents. Over 14,000 people are reported to have died during the tension that preceded the democratic election of Mandela in 1994.

As Walker's successful campaign to erode the powers of the last remaining bulwark against the corporate takeover of America proved, it would be naive to suggest the subsequent events in South Africa, along with the likely conclusions of the current uprisings in the arab world, show that those who attempt to discredit their political foes by shady, immoral means eventually get their comeuppance. We're only afforded the exposure of these illicit practices thanks to successful campaigns to rid those guilty parties from office (and Walker's lack of familiarity with a guy who just posts him the money and dictates his wishes from afar). But what of those who don't get caught? Whose infiltration into opposition movements aren't uncovered? Whose attempts to sew the seeds of sectarian, religious or racial division prove successful?

***


Speaking of the brothers Koch, I've often wondered how those on the right can equate the sibling billionaires to the philanthropist and minor media mogul, George Soros.

Glenn Beck has made much noise over the last year 'exposing' the shady practices of the liberal financier, with more than a hint of underlying malicious allusions to his semitic origins, but, despite the conspiracies proving quite successful in elevating the perceived threat of Soros among those on the right, I find it hard to comprehend how the man can be seen as the devilish interloper he's depicted as.

I mean, he's a liberal. A rich liberal. If he's going to be plying a political party with money in order to see himself reap the dividends of their subsidised success, it doesn't make sense him siding with the party of higher taxes. Where's the self-interest in a multi-billionaire funding a party historically aligned to the implementation of progressive taxation, no less one led by a man routinely painted as a socialist menace seeking to steal from the wealthy to enrich the poor?

The self-interest in two multi-billionaire oil magnates funding right-wing, lower tax-advocating politicians who upon taking office seek to deregulate the energy industry, deprive the EPA from acknowledging global warming, and ruthlessly hold the country to ransom until tax extensions for the top two percent of the nation are handed over, that's pretty damn evident.

The contrast between the two sets of political boogeymen couldn't have been made more starker earlier this year -- as the Koch brothers were funding counter-protests against normal Wisconsin citizens who were willing to concede everything but their right as union members to collective bargaining - essentially the unions' existence - George Soros was funding mobile courts in the Democratic Republic of Congo which travelled the country aiming to ensure rapists, so abundant in the nation, were put to trial.

I know which one I think represents the bigger threat to the democratic foundations of America.

Of course, the right needs to portray rivals as evil to counteract accusations towards their own financiers. Hence why unions aren't portrayed as collectives of normal Americans whose individual voices are amplified into one loud representative force, but as greedy leeches with lavish lifestyles far more opulent than yours, dear private sector patriot shouting in space. And why the false equivalency made between George Soros and the Koch brothers continues...


***


And finally...

Last week, President Obama's socialist plot to spread the health celebrated its first birthday. Few turned up to the party, however, with cowardly Democrats refusing to associate themselves with the social outcast that increased coverage for over 30 million Americans (do black Americans count?) and enforced provisions preventing profit-driven insurance companies from pre-condition screenings and the dropping of policies whenever individuals had the audacity to threaten corporate profits with their greedy "illnesses".

One man who did have the balls to care more about the people he was elected to serve over his own career or the lobbyist industry was Democratic Congressman, Anthony Weiner. Embarking on a publicity blitz to mark ObamaCare's anniversary, the New York representative tore apart corporate America and its congressional and media puppets in a series of impassioned speeches.

So to celebrate ObamaCare turning one, as I bid you farewell, here's a little Weiner for your earhole...



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I really enjoyed this recap of the past week or so, nice job. Even if I did not agree with the whole thing I would love to see this a regular part of your offering. Thanks for contributing to 411 it has been really interesting having you here.

Posted By: Me (Guest)  on March 30, 2011 at 03:20 PM

 
 
Soros, when not ruining currency around the world, has spent several millions on hachet left wing groups. The Koch brothers? What 43,000?

If Obamacare is so great, then why have a thousand companies got waivers out of it due to cost concerns?

So a republican starts a military conflict, he is a war criminal. A democrat, humanitarian.

Ed Schultz drivel. Kris, who are you? What do you do for a living? Hugo Chavez? Your articles sound like something from a Dennis Kuchinich voter. Someone who gets 2 percent of the vote.


Posted By: Guest#4430 (Guest)  on March 30, 2011 at 03:37 PM

 
 
God created Terry Jones in the image of His asshole.

^^^^And with that I will never read your column again. Good day to you scumbag.


Posted By: berlin (Guest)  on March 30, 2011 at 03:37 PM

 
 
I just wanted to post a comment saying I didnt read any of this...

Seriously, this is the SPIKE TV of the internet, not Harvard. Post a simple topic that those of us who work 40+ hours a week can come home to and ponder/enjoy.


Posted By: AG Awesome (Guest)  on March 30, 2011 at 04:57 PM

 
 
Okay, granted the US, the UK, France ect have other motives behind there action in Libya. But whats the problem? The end result is still the same, and innocent people are still saved. Right now, the Libyan people are singing the names of Sarkozy, Cameron and Obama in the streets, and they really couldn't care what there motives are. Oil for life in a free a country? Sounds like a fair trade to me.

The US and other countries aren't taking any action in other countries, because they want the presidents to remain in power. The presidents of Syria and Yemen have helped the US over the years with the war on terror. There is a fear in the US, that if the wrong person goes into power, Al-Queda would have free roam in those countries.

Ghaddafi himself is a terrorist, the cause of the Lockerbie bombings over 20 years ago and really the US and the UK have every right to go in and take him by force. Also just look at what he's doing to his own people. They won't do that though because we screwed up in Iraq and Afghanistan, and they don't want to risk the Arab league turning there backs on them.

Those soldiers are a disgrace to the army and the US. No wonder half the world hates us. I also hope no innocent Americans die because of these abominations, but I wouldn't count on it.

God I hate this planet.


Posted By: Guest#5132 (Guest)  on March 30, 2011 at 07:20 PM

 
 
Abu Ghriab was on the front page of the New York times for 2 months. The mainstream media spent all their time hammering the Bush administration for it. This abomination hasn't nearly been mentioned as much in the media.

Was it no panties on peoples heads or covering for a president the media is in love with?


Posted By: Guest#8024 (Guest)  on March 30, 2011 at 08:04 PM

 
 
Soros, when not ruining currency around the world, has spent several millions on hachet left wing groups. The Koch brothers? What 43,000?

If Obamacare is so great, then why have a thousand companies got waivers out of it due to cost concerns?

So a republican starts a military conflict, he is a war criminal. A democrat, humanitarian.

Ed Schultz drivel. Kris, who are you? What do you do for a living? Hugo Chavez? Your articles sound like something from a Dennis Kuchinich voter. Someone who gets 2 percent of the vote.

Posted By: Guest#4430 (Guest) on March 30, 2011 at 03:37 PM

Koch does not donate directly they actually create whole sub organizations that then contribute, it is akin to a giant funding network. Actually really innovative, but also estimated to be between 500 million and a billion in donations.

They are handing out waivers due to temporary and partial workers, or low income workers, McDonald's being the most famous. This is because there is a plan to some degree to help them, and their provided insurance is a mini med package. The reason for the waiver is because the program is not taking full effect until 2014 at which point the waivers will not be needed.

This is much different then Iraq. There are no ground forces. When they are deployed or a trillion dollars are spend and 1 million dead we compare the minimal firing of a few rockets to the 8 year quagmire that is Iraq.

As a conservative I'm going to ask you to stop being so stupid or at least do research, you are making the rest of us look bad.


Posted By: Real Conservative (Guest)  on March 30, 2011 at 10:56 PM

 
 
some of the companies that got waivers for this employ two people, and yeah with mcdonalds there may be an excuse but why do 4 states get waivers. Look Nancy Pelosi promised that we need to get this bill passed so we know what's in it, and what people have saw of it they hate it, because it doesn't bring down the cost curve, it's just a huge new entitlement program that the dems want in the budget so it can't be cut

Posted By: coby (Guest)  on March 31, 2011 at 01:12 AM

 
 
I just wanted to post a comment saying I didnt read any of this...

Seriously, this is the SPIKE TV of the internet, not Harvard. Post a simple topic that those of us who work 40+ hours a week can come home to and ponder/enjoy.

Posted By: AG Awesome (Guest) on March 30, 2011 at 04:57 PM

Working 70+ hours a week, and still had time to read the whole column AND your asinine comment. Try harder next time.


Posted By: Guest#4624 (Guest)  on March 31, 2011 at 01:31 AM

 
 
"And come Wednesday, the transition of control to NATO officials will ensure the costs incurred will be relatively minor. Certainly relative to those Bush tax cut extensions the fiscal hawks in the Republican party fought so hard for..."

The primary financial backer of NATO is (drumroll please), the good old US of A.

And anyone paying the slightest attention knows Obama wanted those tax cuts as bad as anyone, so they are HIS. He signed off just as he always planned to; it's beyond debate, and I rarely say that.

"I'm sure the rest of you will join me in hoping (or praying, if that's your deal) that Afghans prove intellectually mature enough to discern between the actions of a few and the American military and people as a whole."

It would be much easier if Americans showed a level of outrage and protest that made the needless continuation of our presence there political suicide for all who endorse it.


Posted By: Jason Douglas (Registered)  on March 31, 2011 at 10:31 AM

 
 
God created Terry Jones in the image of His asshole.

^^^^And with that I will never read your column again. Good day to you scumbag.

Wow. Easily offended much?


Posted By: swamp (Guest)  on March 31, 2011 at 11:10 AM

 
 
There will be american troops on the ground in the next couple of months. I know becuase troops that are friends have informed me of their upcoming mission. Its no secret, Obama is lying to you.

Thousands of companies of all sorts of sizes are bailing on Obamacare. They saw what was in the bill and saw no benefit, just burdens. States and unions have bailed, are they low payed? Real conservative is a real liar.

Koch brothers funeling money, what like Soros? Care to source the "billion" on a real site, not the huffington post or Soros payed for nonsense. Soros has outspent the Koch brothers 32.5 million to 1.5 million in 527 contributions.

Try telling the truth instead of lying and insulting people.


Posted By: Guest#0121 (Guest)  on March 31, 2011 at 11:35 AM

 
 
some of the companies that got waivers for this employ two people, and yeah with mcdonalds there may be an excuse but why do 4 states get waivers. Look Nancy Pelosi promised that we need to get this bill passed so we know what's in it, and what people have saw of it they hate it, because it doesn't bring down the cost curve, it's just a huge new entitlement program that the dems want in the budget so it can't be cut

Posted By: coby (Guest) on March 31, 2011 at 01:12 AM

It is comments like this that prevent us from going forward.

The waivers are temporary, and a good thing, it is to help a smooth transition and to keep people from loosing healthcare. The companies that employ 2 people are actually offices of Aetna...which employees thousands.

Obamacare has a lot of problems but the Republicans in office have done nothing to try to fix it and even wasted time with a full repeal. Now remember Republicans passed the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP)and the Medicare act which follows the same "socialist" ideals.

Also the bill has the same word count as a 400 page novel. Trust me it was read. Also much of it was based on Bob Dole and Mitt Romney's plan. Obamacare in a lot of ways is actually a gift to insurance companies.

There are problems but if we as conservatives do not start thinking rather then regurgitating then we just look stupid.


Posted By: Real Conservative (Guest)  on March 31, 2011 at 11:44 AM

 
 
Jason

I don't wholly disagree with you on the tax cut extensions. (I'm assuming you realised I wasn't suggesting differently, my remark referring to the hypocrisy of the fiscal hawks.) I can see why he personally could be swayed into believing extending the breaks for the most wealthy in the nation may prove stimulative to the economy, which is of utmost importance to him at this moment in time, but I can also see he's smart enough to realise there's little evidence of the previous decade's tax cuts to that same group leading to any substantial economic stimulus - therefore merely adding massively to a deficit he knew was becoming a major issue as the right-wing attempted to clean up the mess they made.

I'll get to some of the other comments later, but to the guy who will no longer read my column due to the Terry Jones caption, you made my day, bud! Haha.


Posted By: Kris Stewart (Registered)  on March 31, 2011 at 12:25 PM

 
 
"We have to pass the bill to see whats in it"

Posted By: Nancy Pelosi (Guest)  on March 31, 2011 at 12:28 PM

 
 
We need to be honest and call out the president who was against the Iraq war becuase iraq was not a threat to america. Libya is not a threat to america. We are hypacrites.

Media matters has declared a guerrilla war on Fox news. That is not good "tone". Bill Maher calling Sarah Palin a twat is offensive and sexist.

George Soros funds Media matters, it is a fact, October 10th. 1 million. We need to step away from groups who call for trying to sabotague freedom of the press. It makes us look stupid.

If we are to call for the support for Obamacare, then states like Maine should not get waivers.These unions need to do their part

1.Service Employees Benefit Fund
2.UFCW Allied Trade Health & Welfare Trust
3.IBEW No.915
4.Asbestos Workers Local 53 Welfare Fund
5.Plumbers & Pipefitters Local 123 Welfare Fund
6.UFCW Local 227
7.UFCW Maximus Local 455
8.Local 25 SEIU
9.UFCW Local 1262
10.Local 802 Musicians Health Fund
11.Greater Metropolitan Hotel
12.Local 17 Hospitality Benefit Fund
13.I.U.P.A.T.
14.Transport Workers
15.UFT Welfare Fund
16.UABT

If we support the presidents flip flopping on war, unions and states getting out of obamacare and Soros funded hate, then WE LOOK STUPID.


Posted By: Real Liberal (Guest)  on March 31, 2011 at 12:46 PM

 
 
It doesn't matter what Hugo lovers like Kris say. These are now Obamas wars, Obamas Gitmo, Obama economy, Obamas scandal of trophy killing(he is the commander in chief) Blaming the right is a joke, you think you bunch of losers would have known that after what happened in the last election. Check polls, from quinnipiac..."As Mr. Obama gears up for re-election, 48% of American voters disapprove of the job he’s doing while 42% approve of it. The numbers are even worse when it comes to whether he deserves another four-year term in the White House, with 50% saying “no” and 41% saying “yes.”"

Posted By: Guest#8546 (Guest)  on March 31, 2011 at 01:05 PM

 
 
Nancy Pelosi,

Something tells me you're not the real Nancy Pelosi... I mean, you didn't even quote 'your' comment in its entirety:

"You've heard about the controversies within the bill, the process about the bill, one or the other. But I don't know if you have heard that it is legislation for the future, not just about health care for America, but about a healthier America, where preventive care is not something that you have to pay a deductible for or out of pocket. Prevention, prevention, prevention -- it's about diet, not diabetes. It's going to be very, very exciting. But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it away from the fog of the controversy."

Don't get me wrong, Pelosi has a tendency to misspeak, and the full quote certainly doesn't help her out, but when you actually listen to it in full the quote doesn't seem as ridiculous as the cropped one circulating the right-wing blogosphere makes out. She's essentially referring to the same jabberwocky Rep. Weiner does in the video above -- basically, once the bill's passed, you will see most of the nonsense the corporate puppets are insinuating are in the bill will be shown to be false.

I personally didn't much care for when liberals would use the previous president's unique way with words as a sign he wasn't fit for office. I thought there was much more evidence to prove that other than the fact he mixed up his idioms. So please call me up if I ever use flubbed or out-of-context statements to back up serious attacks against politicians.

I'd urge people like you, Nancy, to do likewise. It adds nothing to the debate.


Posted By: Kris Stewart (Registered)  on March 31, 2011 at 02:00 PM

 
 
We need to be honest and call out the president who was against the Iraq war becuase iraq was not a threat to america. Libya is not a threat to america. We are hypacrites.

Media matters has declared a guerrilla war on Fox news. That is not good "tone". Bill Maher calling Sarah Palin a twat is offensive and sexist.

George Soros funds Media matters, it is a fact, October 10th. 1 million. We need to step away from groups who call for trying to sabotague freedom of the press. It makes us look stupid.

If we are to call for the support for Obamacare, then states like Maine should not get waivers.These unions need to do their part

1.Service Employees Benefit Fund
2.UFCW Allied Trade Health & Welfare Trust
3.IBEW No.915
4.Asbestos Workers Local 53 Welfare Fund
5.Plumbers & Pipefitters Local 123 Welfare Fund
6.UFCW Local 227
7.UFCW Maximus Local 455
8.Local 25 SEIU
9.UFCW Local 1262
10.Local 802 Musicians Health Fund
11.Greater Metropolitan Hotel
12.Local 17 Hospitality Benefit Fund
13.I.U.P.A.T.
14.Transport Workers
15.UFT Welfare Fund
16.UABT

If we support the presidents flip flopping on war, unions and states getting out of obamacare and Soros funded hate, then WE LOOK STUPID.

Posted By: Real Liberal (Guest) on March 31, 2011 at 12:46 PM

If you are implying the president is a liberal and represents liberals then you are either A and idiot or B....Oh no A is the only answer.


Posted By: Guest#5820 (Guest)  on March 31, 2011 at 03:21 PM

 
 
It doesn't matter what Hugo lovers like Kris say. These are now Obamas wars, Obamas Gitmo, Obama economy, Obamas scandal of trophy killing(he is the commander in chief) Blaming the right is a joke, you think you bunch of losers would have known that after what happened in the last election. Check polls, from quinnipiac..."As Mr. Obama gears up for re-election, 48% of American voters disapprove of the job he’s doing while 42% approve of it. The numbers are even worse when it comes to whether he deserves another four-year term in the White House, with 50% saying “no” and 41% saying “yes.”"

Posted By: Guest#8546 (Guest) on March 31, 2011 at 01:05 PM

Actually I'm surprised it is that high. I don't like the guy at all, and I'm a swing voter. But I will tell you what, the current crop of GOP cronies won't get my vote. Not that it matters. McCain is insane that is why he didn't win, and he has flipped on more issues then Obama, since the election. Palin...well I don't even want to go there.

Look at your crop of candidates, Pawlenty is the only remotely sane one in the lot and he was a terrible Governor. Heck A professional Wrestler was better in the office then he was.

I don't think I'm alone when I say that until the GOP presents someone sane I don't want to vote for them, I voted for Sean Duffy by the way and look how that clown turned out.


Posted By: Guest#2575 (Guest)  on March 31, 2011 at 03:28 PM

 
 
Of course Obamacare helps insurance companies. It helps the big insurance companies by imposing regulations so onerous that small players who might enter the market and compete with them have no shot.

But the reason it helps these big insurance companies is not because Obama is a friend to big business. Rather, he knows he needs the infrastructure in place for a transition to single-payer in a decade, so he is tilting the playing field in their favor for now. They will start with the price caps and the "medical/loss" ratio garbage being promulgated by HHS and that unelected, accountable to no one Sebelius. This will make these businesses unable to make profits and useless as a private enterprise. The Dems will then push for the transition to single-payer, citing the inability of these "greedy" insurance companies to effectively deliver service.

But the transition to single-payer cannot take place and remotely run free of chaos without the left co-opting the infrastructure already put in place by these large companies.

I have yet to meet a left-winger who advocated for single-payer explain to me how a massive federal bureacracy will administer medical care "to all" more efficiently and effectively then the same insurance comapnies they now decry, when the structures are going to be just as layered with inefficient bureaucracy and red tape, even more so in fact, than they are now.

The answer is not big insurance, not huge government, but a return to a direct doctor-patient relationship with price transparency, not hidden costs passed through one paper pusher to another.


Posted By: Da Man (Guest)  on March 31, 2011 at 04:19 PM

 
 
If all of you Hugo lovers think Obama is not socialist enough, why don't you nominate Kuchinich or Bennie Sanders and primary Obama. See how that works out for you.

Posted By: Guest#1332 (Guest)  on March 31, 2011 at 04:37 PM

 
 
I just wanted to post a comment saying I didnt read any of this...

Seriously, this is the SPIKE TV of the internet, not Harvard. Post a simple topic that those of us who work 40+ hours a week can come home to and ponder/enjoy.

Posted By: AG Awesome (Guest) on March 30, 2011 at 04:57 PM

Working 70+ hours a week, and still had time to read the whole column AND your asinine comment. Try harder next time.

Posted By: Guest#4624 (Guest) on March 31, 2011 at 01:31 AM

No, Im afraid I wont try harder. This is liberal america now and I can be as lazy and unpleasant as I want


Posted By: AG Awesome (Guest)  on March 31, 2011 at 05:48 PM

 
 
If all of you Hugo lovers think Obama is not socialist enough, why don't you nominate Kuchinich or Bennie Sanders and primary Obama. See how that works out for you.

Posted By: Guest#1332 (Guest) on March 31, 2011 at 04:37 PM

You do realize America has been a social democracy for over 200 years right? McCarthyism was stupid in the last century and it is stupid in this century as well.

If you cannot add to the political discourse then you only hinder it.

America has a hybrid system and it is important to understand this so it can be balanced out.


Posted By: Real Conservative (Guest)  on March 31, 2011 at 07:35 PM

 
STAY CURRENT




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