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 411mania » Politics » Blog Entry
Gingrich Dominates SC, Romney Suddenly Looking Very Vulnerable
Posted by Ashish on 01.21.2012



Newt Gingrich pulled off a strong double digit win in South Carolina today, stronger than most expected, beating expectations and reviving a campaign that looked to be dead a week ago. It is amazing that two strong debate performances by Gingrich and Romney fumbled over tax returns was all it took for Romney's support to erode. Beyond his 25% base, Romney really struggles in states with a lot of conservative voters. They just aren't that into the guy, period.

And as I said after the debate on Thursday, Newt owes a huge thank you to John King for pitching him a hanging pitch right over the plate that he proceeded to belt out of the park. That moment had as much to do with Gingrich's huge win today as anything else.

Here are my main takeaways from tonight's result and what it means going forward...

* Mitt Romney did not handle attacks well. For the first time in this competition, Romney faced a series of consistent, aggressive attacks, and he crumbled under them. He went from a double digit lead in SC to a double digit loss in a matter of 10 days. He is going to have to rebound from this quickly, because the longer this race goes on, the less likely it is that he will be the nominee. This past week has said a lot about how Romney would potentially handle the type of consistent, focused attacks he'd face from Obama -- not well.

* Gingrich can now lay claim to winning the most populated state of the primaries thus far. Iowa is very small and a caucus at that, and New Hampshire is a small, moderate state with a lot of independents. Gingrich will make it known that the first true conservative state with a large population, he dominated Romney.

* Romney has a major issue on his hands with his tax returns and he will need to resolve it soon so it doesn't stay an issue in Florida.

* The winner of Florida will probably be the nominee.

* Gingrich is going to ride a huge wave of momentum in Florida and nationally that will see him get a huge boost in the polls. We saw this in December though and he blew it. Can he keep from saying idiotic statements and making big promises he can't back up? Newt's speaking ability in debates has helped him, but his speaking not he trail has mostly gotten him in trouble. He's gotten a second chance now and a second surge in support and will have to be more disciplined this time around.

* Don't be surprised to see the first batch of post-SC polls show Gingrich surging to the lead there. Keep in mind that before his Iowa free fall, Gingrich had double digit leads in all the Florida polls. Now that he has that same support back, expect the same type of poll results.

* What Rick Santorum does in the next week will be key. If he drops out, Romney is in major trouble. If he stays in, he will continue to siphon votes off of Gingrich in Florida. No doubt that Gingrich will try to talk Santorum into dropping out this week, as he did Perry, but with Santorum having a win under his belt in Iowa, I'd be surprised if he does. Santorum, indirectly, is Romney's #1 ally right now. And the fact is, he actually did better than expected in SC, topping Ron Paul for third.

* Romney has not really attacked any of his rivals in a major way directly thus far, mostly relying on Super PACs to do the dirty work for him. That won't cut it now. He now has a real rival on his hands and will have to get his hands dirty in the build-up to Florida. Acting like the presumptive nominee doesn't work when you go 1 for 3 in the first three states. His concession speech tonight was boring, dull, and didn't even go after Gingrich much by name on anything new. He will have to get aggressive directly. Only problem for Romney, as we saw in 2008 and as we've gotten a few reminders of this time around, he comes off pretty badly when on the attack. On the other hand, the Romney campaign has a huge opposition research file on Gingrich -- it's now time to see what line of attack they decide to go with, how Newt handles it, and if it will work.

* Gingrich has to be ready for the onslaught that is going to come from Romney and his Super PACs. This is going to get very dirty. Gingrich handled attacks pretty much as badly as you can handle them in Iowa. He has another shot at it now, and better have his counter attacks ready and his guns loaded.

* Gingrich is also going to once again face an onslaught of attacks from the GOP establishment. We saw this in Iowa when he got a big lead, and we'll see it again. Don't be surprised to see the likes of Jeb Bush come out and endorse Romney in Florida, and a lot of other big name GOPers siding with Romney. The party's establishment does not want Gingrich anywhere close to the nomination.

* Ron Paul's disappointing last place finish ends his streak of over performing polls, but it doesn't really matter since he plans to stay in until the end regardless.

So we now have a race on our hands. Romney has managed to blow what looked like an all-but-wrapped-up nomination. Florida should get very dirty, very fast. Should be interesting.


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Can we please just swear in Obama again and end this nonsense?

Posted By: Guest#1548 (Guest)  on January 21, 2012 at 10:07 PM

 
 
"Ron Paul's disappointing last place finish ends his streak of over performing polls, but it doesn't really matter since he plans to stay in until the end regardless."

HA - so there you go RP folks you abligatory RP mention..you know that he finished in last place even behind Santorum.

Waiting on the old - well if you don't vote for Paul your screwed RP supporter retort.


Posted By: Guest#9209 (Guest)  on January 21, 2012 at 10:15 PM

 
 
All I can say is: thank god (not really) for rednecks!!

Posted By: Obama supporter (Guest)  on January 21, 2012 at 10:32 PM

 
 
Let's end partisanship.

Posted By: Guest#8411 (Guest)  on January 21, 2012 at 10:39 PM

 
 
Verman Supreme 2012!!

Posted By: Guest#2838 (Guest)  on January 21, 2012 at 11:08 PM

 
 
I still have a tough time believing Newt will win the nomination. The GOP is divided into two camps, those who believe Obama is the literal anti-Christ and those who think he's only the figurative anti-Christ. But if they want to pull another Barry Goldwater I'm all for it.

Posted By: No Pants Mafia (Guest)  on January 21, 2012 at 11:56 PM

 
 
Any sane, logical, tactical Republican would vote for Ron Paul. Strategy simply dictates that Paul has the greatest chance of beating Obama.

Posted By: Guest#0786 (Guest)  on January 22, 2012 at 12:04 AM

 
 
Sure, Ron Paul is last place. That makes sense. Because you all know so many Santorum supporters for instance. Or maybe you don't... Or any Newt supporters.. Yet you know plenty of "Paul People"... Doesn't really add up, does it?

Elections are faker than wrestling.


Posted By: Guest#9910 (Guest)  on January 22, 2012 at 01:01 AM

 
 
on super tuesday one state where we know romeny will win is virginia, becuase teh only other perosn on the ballot there is paul, becuase gingrich and snatorum are not on the ballot there, and romeny will likely win florida, becuase of his orginaztion, and the fact he's been running ads in the state and no other candidate has run an ad yet

Posted By: coby (Guest)  on January 22, 2012 at 01:10 AM

 
 
Barry Goldwater? I wish. He was disgusted by how socially conservative the GOP had become in the 80s and 90s, he must be spinning in his grave at what it's become in the past decade.

Posted By: poffo316 (Guest)  on January 22, 2012 at 02:14 AM

 
 
Newt and Santorum really don't stand a chance in the long run. There are over 500 delegates that they are ineligible to receive because they didn't meet the requirements of the states. Gingrich and Santorum are false illusions and cannot feasably win the nomination. It is truly a two man race between Romney and Paul. Ron Paul will more then likely take Texas and California which are HUGE delegate states. Ron Paul has a long drawn out strategy that duplicates Obama's 2008 run. He is in it for the delegates and will get them. You Republicans who continue to alienate him and his supporters will only ensure Obama's reelection because without Ron Paul supporters....you cannot win.

Posted By: Guest#6948 (Guest)  on January 22, 2012 at 10:25 AM

 
 
Nothing good comes from the right except for ignorance and nutjobs.

Democrats have been paving the way for this country since they were founded years ago and Democrats will continue being the best thing for this country. Republicans take care of the rich whereas Democrats try and look out for the common man.

This country is ran by the rich and they get no taxes on their money anyway. If that's not a sign of conservative corruption, I don't know what it.

Being Centrist is great and leaning a little to the left is better. At least I can live with myself knowing that I'm not some conservative, republican nutjob. The right is going to kill this country.


Posted By: Defective14 (Guest)  on January 22, 2012 at 11:55 AM

 
 
Sure, Ron Paul is last place. That makes sense. Because you all know so many Santorum supporters for instance. Or maybe you don't... Or any Newt supporters.. Yet you know plenty of "Paul People"... Doesn't really add up, does it?

Elections are faker than wrestling.

Posted By: Guest#9910 (Guest)  on January 22, 2012 at 01:01 AM

I know supporters of all the candidates, actually, and I live in Mormon-rich Utah.

Ron Paul supporters need to buy a clue. He's a fringe candidate who came out of Iowa with a bump that led into New Hampshire. His bump is over. We've had 3 primaries and Ron Paul hasn't won any and only took second in New Hampshire.

Ron Paulogists have to start blaming conspiracies when the hard facts hit them in the face. He is not a viable candidate. South Carolina is an open primary where anyone registered can vote. Paul took last place.

Buy a clue.


Posted By: Guest#2562 (Guest)  on January 22, 2012 at 01:36 PM

 
 
Democrats have been paving the way for this country since they were founded years ago and Democrats will continue being the best thing for this country. Republicans take care of the rich whereas Democrats try and look out for the common man.

This country is ran by the rich and they get no taxes on their money anyway. If that's not a sign of conservative corruption, I don't know what it.

Being Centrist is great and leaning a little to the left is better. At least I can live with myself knowing that I'm not some conservative, republican nutjob. The right is going to kill this country.

Posted By: Defective14 (Guest) on January 22, 2012 at 11:55 AM

You know who the nutjobs are? Partisans on either side. Anyone that supports the left and doesn't believe that Obama has sold us out to corporate America just as badly as the Republicans has is crazy.

Neither side cares about "the common man" anymore outside of filling him with fear over what the evil other side will be doing to him. Dems and Repubs want to keep us all fighting amongst ourselves so we don't notice how they're constantly screwing us over.


Posted By: Scott B (Guest)  on January 22, 2012 at 03:13 PM

 
 
Its republicans fault that Solyndra, Fast and furious, gitmo still open, 500,000 union members got waivers from obamacare, patriot act extended, etc, etc

I am a blind sheep who loves Saul Alinsky


Posted By: Defective 14 (Guest)  on January 22, 2012 at 04:50 PM

 
 
178 killed in Nigeria today by the religion of peace. Watch the 411 sheep blame it on Bush, The Koch brothers, Fox news and the Catholic church.

All hail the mighty messiah Obama!!!!!!!


Posted By: Guest#6866 (Guest)  on January 22, 2012 at 05:06 PM

 
 
What?

Posted By: Stone Cold (Guest)  on January 22, 2012 at 06:13 PM

 
 
Its republicans fault that Solyndra, Fast and furious, gitmo still open, 500,000 union members got waivers from obamacare, patriot act extended, etc, etc

I am a blind sheep who loves Saul Alinsky

Posted By: Defective 14 (Guest) on January 22, 2012 at 04:50 PM

Oh, look, another "lets pretend to be someone we're not" post, that also happens to parrot Gingrich's talking points. Grant, is that you?


Posted By: Guest#2931 (Guest)  on January 22, 2012 at 08:46 PM

 
 
The average voter does not turn out for primaries unless they are motivated by a certain candidate. So, could someone please explain to me how Newt Gingrich, who has virtually no ground game, no money, and no fervent supporters, just won the South Carolina primary?
Could the conspiracy to keep Ron Paul out of the Oval Office be this coordinated, this pervasive?


Posted By: Conspiracy (Guest)  on January 22, 2012 at 11:15 PM

 
 
178 killed in Nigeria today by the religion of peace. Watch the 411 sheep blame it on Bush, The Koch brothers, Fox news and the Catholic church.

All hail the mighty messiah Obama!!!!!!!

Posted By: Guest#6866 (Guest) on January 22, 2012 at 05:06 PM

If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; and hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; and it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.


Posted By: Family Values (Guest)  on January 22, 2012 at 11:36 PM

 
 
Say whatever but the GOP cannot win without Ron Paul's support. Its Obama vs Paul as far as our generation is concerned, and if people knew more about Obama, they'd realize that he is merely the dark skinned muslim version of Romney

Posted By: Guest#1130 (Guest)  on January 22, 2012 at 11:40 PM

 
 
The Internet is just more proof that there should be a test people have to pass in order to vote....

Posted By: Guest#0590 (Guest)  on January 23, 2012 at 01:17 AM

 
 
Newt supporters are an imagined people.

Wake up.


Posted By: Guest#4408 (Guest)  on January 23, 2012 at 06:54 AM

 
 
The Internet is just more proof that there should be a test people have to pass in order to vote....

Posted By: Guest#0590 (Guest) on January 23, 2012 at 01:17 AM

How many bubbles are there in a bar of soap?


Posted By: Guest#8096 (Guest)  on January 23, 2012 at 07:55 AM

 
 
When Obama and Clinton traded states and Edwards was a close third, it was a great positive thing. Now when Romney or Gingrich win or lose, its a disaster for the republican party. Both situations where candidates are running against a unpopular and ineffective president." Democrat good, republican bad, I am Ashish." You sound more like captain caveman.

Posted By: Guest#3415 (Guest)  on January 23, 2012 at 02:16 PM

 
 
When Obama and Clinton traded states and Edwards was a close third, it was a great positive thing. Now when Romney or Gingrich win or lose, its a disaster for the republican party. Both situations where candidates are running against a unpopular and ineffective president." Democrat good, republican bad, I am Ashish." You sound more like captain caveman.

Posted By: Guest#3415 (Guest) on January 23, 2012 at 02:16 PM

Um...Obama wasn't running against an unpopular president. He was running against McCain because Bush was gone no matter what.

BTW Obama approval ratings are no where NEAR as bad as bush's were in 04' and Bush still got re-elected because of a terrible candidate (among other things).

Try to know what your talking about before you want to rip somebody, is that to much to ask for?


Posted By: Guest#3628 (Guest)  on January 23, 2012 at 03:03 PM

 
 
Obams whole campaign was running against the Bush administration. Like when he bitched about how unpatriotic it was for Bush to run up debt then quadrupled it when taking office. Did you watch the 2008 election? Technically yes, McCain was the opponent but almost all of Obamas message was hope and change. Change from who?

Obama suffered the biggest ass kicking in 80 years in the mid terms and his poll numbers suck.

Your a blind sheep.


Posted By: Guest#2197 (Guest)  on January 23, 2012 at 08:27 PM

 
 
Guest 3415 just got BUTT-SLAMMED! Oh yeah! It went down so fast, it sounded like a deck of cards being shuffled!

Posted By: Guest#5090 (Guest)  on January 23, 2012 at 08:28 PM

 
 
bams whole campaign was running against the Bush administration. Like when he bitched about how unpatriotic it was for Bush to run up debt then quadrupled it when taking office. Did you watch the 2008 election? Technically yes, McCain was the opponent but almost all of Obamas message was hope and change. Change from who?

Obama suffered the biggest ass kicking in 80 years in the mid terms and his poll numbers suck.

Your a blind sheep.

Posted By: Guest#2197 (Guest) on January 23, 2012 at 08:27 PM

Again, you're wrong. Clinton got killed in the mid term elections as well as do almost EVERY president when their party controls both houses.

Obama's message in 08' was against republican policies, that is a huge difference. He wasn't running against Bush as you keep saying. He was running against their policies and ideology and what McCain stood for more specifically.

In their debates who was he debating against? Certainly not Bush, but the policy ideas of McCain who, in general, was lock in step with the republican ideals of the day.

Again, please, is it to much to ask to be informed?


Posted By: Guest#1223 (Guest)  on January 24, 2012 at 07:41 AM

 
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