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Republicans Concerned Over McCain's Attacks Against Obama
Posted by Ashish on 07.04.2008



The New York Times has an interesting article up on how the Republican party is a bit concerned with how John McCain's attacks on Barack Obama thus far have been very unfocused, with many on the right comparing McCain's struggles to Hillary Clinton's.
Like those unleashed by Mrs. Clinton's team in the winter and spring, the McCain camp's attacks on Mr. Obama have had a lurching quality for weeks now, several Republicans said in interviews. Some days Mr. McCain or his allies have gone after Mr. Obama's relative youth and inexperience, other days they have criticized his shifting positions (on public campaign financing) or policy stands (on guns and gasoline prices) or even his and his wife's patriotism.
The articles continues...
McCain advisers say they have plenty of time — four months — to derail the Obama candidacy, yet acknowledged that running against a "movement candidate" — in the words of one McCain aide — had been challenging even for deft politicians like the Clintons.

These advisers said that they had been studying Mrs. Clinton's approach and her failings, and that they were confident that general election voters would be more concerned with matters like experience than the Democratic primary electorate, which embraced Mr. Obama's early opposition to the war in Iraq and his message of change. McCain aides said they would be increasingly zeroing in on the experience question and making rhetoric vs. reality attacks on his record and speeches — though they admitted that this, too, had proved insufficient for Mrs. Clinton.

Mr. McCain has also sought to make an issue out of Mr. Obama's refusal to meet him for weekly debates around the country — a bone that Mrs. Clinton picked with Mr. Obama before the Wisconsin primary in February, including in television advertisements she blanketed the state with. Mr. Obama won Wisconsin by 17 percentage points.
It's an interesting position to be in for McCain. He more or less HAS to do what Hillary Clinton did against Obama and hope that it works in the general election even though it didn't in the primaries. What other options does he have? If general election voters don't care about experience more than change, does McCain have a shot? Probably not. If general election voters don't care about national security more than the economy, does McCain have a shot? Probably not. We saw Clinton go after Obama relentlessly on experience, national security/commander in chief stuff, her belief that he has been inconsistent on Iraq, etc. and we can expect all of this stuff again from McCain.

The thing that seems to be frustrated Republicans the most about the McCain campaign thus far though is the fact that he has wasted so much time.
While the shake-up of Mr. McCain's campaign strategy team on Wednesday was heartening to several Republicans, they also noted that President Bush's re-election campaign had already settled on an effective argument against Mr. Kerry by late spring of 2004 — branding him daily as a flip-flopper and inauthentic. That months have passed without the McCain campaign similarly defining Mr. Obama somehow has frustrated Republicans more than, say, Mr. Obama's strong fund-raising or Democratic Party unity.
Another problem for McCain is that Obama isn't simply taking attacks like Gore did in 2000 and Kerry in 2004.
Yet Mr. Obama, one month after securing the Democratic nomination, and his advisers have proved defter and more fleet-footed at counterpunching than Mr. Kerry or Vice President Al Gore in 2000, Republicans said. They noted that Mr. Obama was not cowed into apologizing for recent remarks by Gen. Wesley K. Clark that appeared dismissive of Mr. McCain's war service. Mr. Obama has maintained steady leads over Mr. McCain in most national polls.
The good news for McCain is that putting Steve Schmidt in charge should fix a few problems. One, Schmidt will bring focus. He is in the Karl Rove mold of strategists and knows how to attack consistently and efficiently, and McCain needs that. Two, we can assume that Schmidt will put the same type of emphasis on organization and grassroots that Rove did.

But enough cannot be said about how big a blunder it was for McCain to waste the last four months and not set up massive organization in all the swing states like Obama has done. In states that could be decided by less than 1%, ground organization, volunteers, and get out the vote programs usually are the difference between winning and losing. We saw this in 2000 and 2004 with Bush's powerful organization out hustling the Gore and Kerry organizations.

I'd be surprised to see the McCain camp go forward with the "Obama is a flip-flopper" line of attack as their main attack. McCain is not Bush. Very few people considered Bush to be a flip-flopper in 2004 while over half the country thought Kerry was. This year, more people view McCain as a flip-flopper than Obama, according to a CNN poll. If Bush could only win by 3% in 2004 despite such a huge gap in the flip-flopper area, it would be very hard for McCain to win the election based on that even if he successfully labels Obama as a flip-flopper because he has changed position in very obvious ways on major issues like taxes and torture. This year's political playing field isn't even, it favors Democrats right now as they have a roughly 10% advantage in party ID. That means that if the country views BOTH Obama AND McCain as flip-floppers, Obama will still win. McCain has to pull a net plus out of his attack line, not a net neutral.

There is one line of attack that CAN swing elections and that is patriotism. This is the line I would expect Schmidt to push. It's one that speaks directly to a certain class of voters and one that can tie right in to McCain's strongest areas -- national security and personal sacrifice.


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I've always found the title of "flip-flopper" to be somewhat ridiculous. Do people really expect politicians not to change their position when they get new information or things change? Obviously there's a line drawn when it's obvious pandering, but I haven't seen Obama approach that line.

Posted By: Rod Oracheski (Registered)  on July 04, 2008 at 03:41 PM

 
 
Well said Rod. I really don't get the whole "flip flopper" thing with voters. Do they expect politicians to be like Bush, and stick with failing policies and refuse to change course, even when new information arises?

Posted By: John Gregory (Registered)  on July 04, 2008 at 04:53 PM

 
 
^ What they said. I've always chuckled at the way the term "flip-flopper" is bandied about like it's the worst possible trait a politician can display. Why is changing your mind such a bad thing?

Posted By: Michael O (Registered)  on July 04, 2008 at 06:39 PM

 
 
As manager of his campaign, McCain must have his own strategy and methodology for winning. If he can't manage a campaign, how can he manage the country? Hillary was a poor manager and it showed. Lets see what kind of manager he is, or will he too give his campaign to others to run?

Posted By: Susan (Guest)  on July 04, 2008 at 09:34 PM

 
 
Another problem for McCain? His temper. That story that just came out about how he alledgedly got physical with a Sandunista will not help one bit no matter if the story is true or not. And you can't accuse someone of doing something when you do the exact same thing. McCain's doing that with Obama right now and people will see right through it. But I guess that's what being a politician means...you do whatever it takes to win.

Obama will be elected president and McCain will go back to the U.S. Senate. And I think everyone knows it. And if any McCain supporters think otherwise, they're just kidding themselves.


Posted By: Geoff (Guest)  on July 05, 2008 at 12:19 AM

 
 
Rod, the point is, Obama said he was a different kind of candidate and he has to date shown himself to be no different from the John Kerrys, the Bill Clintons, the Al Sharptons, etc.

And I fail to see how you can say Obama is guaranteed to win the Presidency. They've yet to have any debates. Obama's stances are to the left, while the majority of the country goes center right.


Posted By: Rick (Guest)  on July 05, 2008 at 12:57 AM

 
 
Rick, you say that all the time but do you have ANY proof or data that confirms that most of the country is "center right"? Just because it was like that at one point doesn't mean it is now. Just saying stuff based on your assumption is meaningless. And if most of the country was "center right" why is Obama winning all the polls and most of the key swing states? Are these right and center right people somehow under the impression that Obama is to the right? Gimmie a break.

Posted By: Guest#7541 (Guest)  on July 05, 2008 at 01:10 AM

 
 
Most of the country agrees with the left. Many studies have shown this time and time again. It's only when the big wedge issues are glorified that people cling to center right.

Posted By: Actually... (Guest)  on July 05, 2008 at 04:14 AM

 
 
Guest, Polls don't mean THAT much anymore...that point was proven with Iowa and New Hampshire. Look at Huckabee, he demolished McCain and Romney when all of the polls said otherwise.

Posted By: Bob (Guest)  on July 05, 2008 at 04:34 AM

 
 
"I've always found the title of "flip-flopper" to be somewhat ridiculous. Do people really expect politicians not to change their position when they get new information or things change? Obviously there's a line drawn when it's obvious pandering, but I haven't seen Obama approach that line."

Good job Rod!! However you forgot his FLOUNDERING AND FLIP-FLOPPING on Rev Wright, campaign finance. OH and lets not forget about how he made SUCH a passionate statement on WHY he wasnt wearing a flag pin on his lapel. NOW he is on all the magazine covers WITH one and HE is attempting to teach AMERICANS about PATRIOTISM?

Worse than Kerry ever was.


Posted By: CM Wolf (Guest)  on July 05, 2008 at 10:12 AM

 
 
Can you prove the country isn't center right? What would've changed them? The majority of the country considers themselves to be religious, they abhor the practice of abortion, they've voted to reject gay marriage repeatedly, Americans don't want their taxes raised (yet Obama wants to do just that), they want less government, not more (yet Obama wants to have the government intrude in your life more with socialist inept health care. Need I go on?

It's people like you who should be the one to pay for the burden of socialized health care. Not everyone else who is happy with the current system.


Posted By: Rick (Guest)  on July 05, 2008 at 11:23 AM

 
 
I would never go as far as saying Obama is guaranteed to be the POTUS in part that there is quite a bit of time to go befor Election Day yet his chances are looking very promising right now.

However, this term 'flip-flopping'/flip-flopper is corny as hell. As a realist, any real leader is going to adapt to the given situation in order to try and ensure positive results. The same is required for survival on any level (businessman/parent/husband/wife...etc.)

Insanity is doing what you've been doing and expecting different results. Pandering is a politically correct way of saying any and everything to get elected even when you may strongly go against what you personally believe aka 'ass kissing' and I would put that on anyone running for office (republican/democrat/independant.)


Posted By: Tramel (Guest)  on July 05, 2008 at 01:40 PM

 
 
Bob: Yikes, get your facts straight. First of all, Huckabee LOST New Hampshire. He finished THIRD. McCain and Romney finished #1 and #2. Second, Huckabee was predicted to win Iowa in the last FIVE polls and if you don't believe me, here's a list of every final poll of Iowa.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/ia/iowa_republi
can_caucus-207.html#polls

Seriously, at least attempt to check facts before you just post totally inaccurate information.

Polls have been right over 95% of the time. You can ignore them if you want, and I see why you do, since they aren't giving you the information you want right now, but that doesn't change the fact that they are very accurate.


Posted By: Guest#5079 (Guest)  on July 05, 2008 at 02:37 PM

 
 
Well, until someone posts proof of these "many studies," it's just assumption by some random guy posting comments. The mood of the country changes all the time. That's why we have elections. If it's always to the right, why do Republicans ever lose? Why don't they have majorities in the House and Congress? Why do all polls show McCain losing to Obama? Why have Democrats won in the past? Why is Bush's approval rating below 30%? Oh wait, that's right, you have no proof over anything and will just respond with "well, the country is to the right."

Posted By: Ed (Guest)  on July 05, 2008 at 02:38 PM

 
 
It appears that "Actually" is delusional. The country has never been to the left of the center.

Posted By: Rick (Guest)  on July 05, 2008 at 05:02 PM

 
 
It appears that Rick is an idiot.

Posted By: Guest#9455 (Guest)  on July 05, 2008 at 10:42 PM

 
 
"It's people like you who should be the one to pay for the burden of socialized health care. Not everyone else who is happy with the current system."

Oh yes, the 47 million people including nine million children who are uninsured LOVE the system. Americans get EXCITED when they get the cost of their medicine. My friend has a slipped disk in his back yet cannot afford health insurance, so he can't get anything done about it. We had a party last night to celebrate his pain.

You are an idiot, Rick.


Posted By: Tito (Guest)  on July 06, 2008 at 01:10 PM

 
 
Rick, its very easy to comment behind a keyboard about how the idea of socializing health care is not in our best interests. I can understand if you are among the wealthy who have been benefitted by Republican tax cuts meanwhile the MAJORITY of the country is not keeping up with inflation and is ready for a change. Instead of insulting every idea Obama has as being inept then how's about explaining to us all why you can justify these right-wing ideals which have seemed to work out for us so well the past eight years. Until you can do so and use logic instead of your own neaderthalic opinions then do us all a favor and keep the post open for people with something relevant to say. Thanks. :)

Posted By: mj (Guest)  on July 06, 2008 at 03:20 PM

 
 
I used to like McCain. I liked him from the late 90's till 2004, when he changed his policies and started supporting Bush.

McCain is done, plain and simple. Anyone that supports him are going to be either too old to have a mind of their own or they are just hard nose republicans.

If McCain can't win us over with HOW he plans on fixing this country, then he does not deserve to win. Obama has told us HOW he plans on fixing the country. His plan seems more reasonable. We need BIG change. Little change isn't going to fix the economy. That is even if McCain changes anything.

As catchy or cliche as it seems, McCain is indeed 4 more years of Bush policies. McCain is saying the same shit Bush said in 2004. The Democratic Ticket claimed "Help was on the way" because the Country was heading in the wrong direction.

4 Years later, we are in DEEP trouble financially. Gas prices are higher than ever, families are being forced out of their homes, people are losing work and students can't find any.

This is not something that will just blow over and we will survive it. If it does, it will destroy families and communities along the way, turning all the cities in this country into dumps while the rich survive, not giving a shit that they voted and supported the man that kept us in this position.

But i think the country knows this, so i think there is a chance. With McCain, we have no chance. I used to think he was a smart political figure. My favorite republican. Now he is Bush 2.0. I have no choice but to vote Obama.


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