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How Palin & Biden's Favorability Numbers Compare To Past VP Picks
Posted by Ashish on 09.05.2008



ABC, Rasmussen, and Diageo all have new favorability/unfavorability ratings for Sarah Palin out, most of which came after her highly viewed speech on Wednesday. 538 has a fantastic article up breaking these numbers down in detail. I'll offer up a summary of those findings here.

Palin is very popular, no doubt about that. If we average her favorability/unfavorability numbers from the three polls above, they come out as 50.3% favorable/33% unfavorable, for a final result of +17.3% favorable (which is similar to both Obama and McCain's favorability rating). That is a good number when viewed in a vacuum. But when we compare her net favorability number to all other VPs selected since 2000, including Joe Biden, we find that she and Biden have the LOWEST net favorability ratings of any VP pick since 2000 (VP picks since 2000 are Dick Cheney, Joe Lieberman, John Edwards, Joe Biden, and Sarah Palin).

In 2000, Dick Cheney's average rating was 46.5% favorable/18.5% unfavorable for a final result of +28% favorable, roughly 11% higher than Palin's. His favorable rating wasn't as high as Palin's, but his unfavorable rating was much lower, an indication that Palin's attack-laced speech on Wednesday drove up her unfavorables in addition to her favorables. It's why politicians try to avoid attacks during their introduction period. Obviously Cheney's numbers took a dive and in 2004, he was viewed more unfavorably than favorable, but we'll ignore that because of the added bonuses of being an incumbent.

But what about other recent VP picks? Joe Lieberman, Al Gore's 2000 VP pick, had a higher net favorable rating than every VP pick since 2000 -- 45% favorable/12% unfavorable for a final result of +33% favorable (16% higher than Palin). John Edwards in 2004 had 49.6% favorable/24.6% unfavorable for a final result of +25% favorable (8% higher than Palin). And what about Joe Biden, Obama's VP pick? 48% favorable/31% unfavorable, for a final result of +17% favorable, meaning his +% favorability number is the lowest of any VP picked since 2000, but less than 1% worse than Palin's.

But as you can see here, Palin's favorability rating is higher than every VP pick since 2000, but so is her unfavorability rating. The thing to remember though is that a big percentage of people who view her favorable or unfavorable are probably passionate about that view. That means that she will probably bring in votes for McCain, but she'll also cost him some votes. In just one week in the national light, she's already become a very polarizing figure with higher favorables and unfavorables than any VP pick this decade, again, the result of intense media coverage and her decision to go so negative in her first major speech. Attacks win over people on your side and make enemies of the people being attacked.

There is a general rule in politics -- favorables go down and unfavorables go up. When a politician is introduced, they usually start with high favorables and low unfavorables. People usually don't dislike people they don't know. As time goes on, unfavorables rise because people find out things they don't like. Obama is a perfect example of this. Last year, when Obama was relatively unknown, he had a very high net favorabilit rating (often +35% or so). Now, it's around +18%, still good, but cut in half. It's somewhat concerning that Palin already has such high unfavorable ratings, but a case could be made that so much negative information came out about her so fast that the entire process of people getting to know her, which usually increases unfavorables slowly over the course of months, was sped up and has already happened. The other view is that with her unfavorables starting so high, she could be up over 40% unfavorable by election day, which means she'd probably be a net negative to McCain. No way of knowing what will happen.

The other thing to remember is that the number of people who view Palin as not being qualified to be VP remain at record levels for a VP pick. In the ABC poll, 42% say she is qualified, 50% say she isn't (-8), compared to Joe Biden who 66% say is qualified while only 21% say isn't (+43), There is no way to know how this mixes with her favorable ratings. Do people who view her favorable still consider her unqualified and thus consider her a negative to the McCain ticket? Or do people who view her as unqualified like her personality so much that they will ignore their concerns about her experience? Different people will react differently.

So what's my point? More people like Palin than any other VP pick since 2000, but more people also dislike Palin more than any other VP pick since 2000. What the end result of this will be is anybody's guess.


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I wont say that I dont like Palin, I'll simply say that I can't be honest and say that I like her. When she spoke on Wends I, like a lot of people probably said dang she's a great talker the problem is you can tell it wasn't her thoughts and or ideas (not that there were any to begin with). She can probably say that speech in her sleep now. In my honest opinion she just came off as well too FAKE (yes I know its politics).
"Quick Rant"
The one thing I hate about stump speeches is how they repeat the same thing over and over again (by "they" I mean Obama, McCain, Palin, Biden). Its like that old antage if you keep repeating the same thing over and over again "EVENTUALLY" you'll start to believe it. I'm listening to a McCain Palin Stump speech as I'm typing this and its just excerpts from last Wends and Thurs nights, absolutely NOTHING new. In contrast when I listened to Biden earlier he at least changed it up a bit.

"Rant Over"

Either way you look at it, people dont vote for the VP they vote for the President so polling being what it is, when all is said and done the only thing thats gonna matter is that people got out and actually VOTE and who they actually ya know VOTE for.

My two cents.


Posted By: Titan (Guest)  on September 05, 2008 at 06:32 PM

 
 
Yeah dude! My mancrush on Whoabama is well documented, but for the love of God come up with a new sentence, soon. I get it, McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time. You're change we can believe in, not four more years of the last eight years. Cool slogans, but I like you for so many other reasons I won't mind if you start saying other sentences in addition to those again...

Posted By: Andrew Tobolowsky (Registered)  on September 05, 2008 at 10:32 PM

 
 
Can we lay off the Palin speech? Every single person that spoke at those conventions had their speeches written for them. Every modern President has had their speeches written for them. Newsflash: Obama didn't write his own speech either!

Its not like she didn't believe the things that were written in her speech. Its not like the things she said weren't fact-in-a-political-context (meaning they were stretched out of proportion - but both sides are guilty of doing that - but at least they were things that sort of happened).


Posted By: Manbearpig (Guest)  on September 06, 2008 at 01:59 AM

 
 
Heres a drinking game, everytime Palin says "I Guess ..." take a shot of some hard stuff. Seriously you tube her speech at the RNC and the one on Friday, and she must say I Guess ... like 10 times in each. I GUess she really has nothing to say about her pilicies and so on.

Posted By: D (Guest)  on September 06, 2008 at 03:54 AM

 
 
McCain can't vote with Bush any percent of the time, because BUSH DOESN'T VOTE. This whole McCain/Bush 90% vote thing might be the stupidest thing I've heard this election. Do people even stop to think before regurgitating talking points anymore?

Back on point, those who dislike Sarah Palin are very likely to be strong Barack Obama supporters. Palin never had to waste time appealing to them. She needs to enthuse the base and make sure they vote, which looks like she is well on the way to doing, and perhaps sway those who are truly undecided and/or willing to give McCain/Palin a look. The jury is still out on that, but the numbers so far look promising.

I will say Palin appeals to Republicans more than Biden appeals to Democrats. Pretty good for someone who was only supposedly picked in a cynical ploy for those "Hillary voters", huh?

Both VP choices were a success. Both did what they were intended to do. Biden gives Obama an experienced, qualified VP, particularly on foreign affairs where Obama is weak. Palin gives McCain some enthusiasm from the right, adds to his reformer/maverick image, grabs more attention on his campaign and away from Obama's, and of course, makes history as the first woman on a Republican presidential ticket, and only the second woman ever to be in this position.


Posted By: Dan (Guest)  on September 06, 2008 at 07:52 AM

 
 
My prediction: McCain/Palin lose; Palin does Playboy within the next 5 years.

Posted By: ayobmedz (Guest)  on September 06, 2008 at 12:52 PM

 
 
"Newsflash: Obama didn't write his own speech either!"
I doubt that. The guy was the president of the Havard Law Review I'm sure he can write his own convention speech.


Posted By: Guest#6624 (Guest)  on September 06, 2008 at 12:54 PM

 
 
And reminds people of the last eight years with Troopergate....*thumbs up*

Posted By: David (Guest)  on September 06, 2008 at 02:42 PM

 
 
The analizing of the poll data is slightly flawed. It's not about the % spread from popular to unpopular, but whether those numbers break into the moderate range above 40% and if they signal defections from the party base. Remember, 40% of the country relects one view, $0% the other, and roughly 20% are where the battle happens in November.

Palin's numbers reflect that a very motivated party base and inroads into half of the undecided voters (40% to 60%). Sure, the negative % is up, because she went on the attack, but everything under 40% is still the opposing party. They are not going to vote for you anyway, so who cares?

Palin did the one thing McCain could NOT do, and that is motivate his own party and get the attention of moderates. For the first time it's an open ball game now, and pulling negative numbers with people who won't for you in any way is a small price to pay for it.

This race just got very interesting.


Posted By: Dan Haggerty (Registered)  on September 06, 2008 at 09:51 PM

 
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